Hegseth Declares End to U.S. 'Utopian Idealism'

[applegrove]

Hegseth Declares End to U.S. ‘Utopian Idealism’

December 7, 2025 at 7:28 am EST By Taegan Goddard 370 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2025/12/07/hegseth-declares-end-to-u-s-utopian-idealism/

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on Saturday launched a full-throated attack on post-Cold War U.S. foreign policy, castigating former presidents and generals by name while declaring the age of American “utopian idealism” over, Politico reports.

Applegrove: they want other western countries to step up with Defense, they don't want to nation build but they want to have a say in who can immigrate to European countries..... right.

[mr715]

1. And declared the era

of dystopian cynicism.

Do you think Pete Hegseth has read a book?

Sec. Mattis kept a copy of Aurelius' Meditations.

[ananda]

18. i like the term dystopian cynicism...

but my spidey sense keeps making me
think it's way too kind.

[mr715]

19. It is.

Cynicism is a position that is at least truth adjacent.

[ananda]

22. That hit my funny bone.

It also has verbal sophistication.

[jmbar2]

2. He is regurgitating Russian themes that are flooding X

Dugin is extremely active lately...

I won't repost his crap, but there is a MAJOR campaign going on over on X. Has truly crossed over into the pits of insanity.

[spanone]

3. Fuck pete hegseth.

[Cha]

13. Exactly. Neo Nazi Asshole can dig his

own Hell Hole...

We'll Love and Respect What We Want.

[spanone]

15. Their arrogance disgusts me.

[Cha]

16. They're dead drunk on

Fleeting power.

[C_U_L8R]

4. Drunkie welcomes in the era of Ignorant Asshattery

Bow down before your clownish overlords

[Cha]

14. No.

[Boomerproud]

5. What happened to American exceptionalism?

NT

[allegorical oracle]

6. He speaks a lot of words. But does he understand what he says? I believe

he's a bot that spews what he programmed to say from day-to-day.

[mr715]

12. He's what you get

When ChatGPT figures out how to get testosterone supplements.


Edit: I guess thats Grok.

[keep_left]

7. I'll bet this is the latest trendy concept from one of the MAGA "think" tanks...

...like the Claremont Institute. IIRC, they have a ridiculous make-work "journal" called American Greatness whose writers slave like stevedores to defend the indefensible on a daily basis. I can just see this as a headline on one of their moronic publications: "Trump stands for American Realism, not Utopian Idealism!". I'm also quite sure that in the near future, the "intellectuals" at Claremont will begin sounding like far-right Maoists: "Follow the Shining Path of Trumpism!".

[Initech]

8. I'd much rather declare an end to MAGA and Fox.

[RedWhiteBlueIsRacist]

9. So says the guy yearning for a white utopia with the U.S.!

[Solly Mack]

10. Fuck that loser.

[Grins]

11. And inaugurating the age of conservative "dytopian idealism"

They have always wanted a world warped by their sordid imagined political and economic fantasies. Maybe now they have it.

[Conjuay]

17. "Utopian Idealism"

Is better than hegseths DT's.

[Emrys]

20. Didn't he get the news that his boss, the God Emperor, is quickly tiring of his antics?

He's fast outliving his usefulness to Trump, and he'll be lucky if he still has a job by Christmas.

[haele]

21. Mmmm. I don't remember policy makers ever calling post Eisenhower era

American "Utopian Idealism".
WTF? That's so Victorian. Or Early Soviet
I've heard the "era" we are in called the American Soft Policy era; during the Cold War, it was called the American Containment policy Era
I've also heard the Reagan Era to current called the Era of American Hegemony.
But "Utopian Idealism"? Sounds like nothing any of the former Presidents would promote, because despite what other Authoritarians and Autocracies that have been in the cross hairs of US policy might have imagined we thought of ourselves, the US has never thought of itself as a Utopia.
Unless, of course, you were a Wealthy Religious nutjob or their spoiled Nepo-babies.