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La Coliniere

(1,704 posts)
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 08:29 PM Sunday

MTG said it loud and clear.

Watched MTG on 60 Minutes and when asked by Leslie Stahl what her primary reason for leaving the Congress in such a rushed fashion after breaking with the felon she said it was the threat of violence against herself and her family.
When will the press finally acknowledge that stochastic terrorism is the defining component of this criminal President and his minions, as well as a central component of all fascist regimes? And I must ask, did she never suspect that leopards wouldn’t eat her face after going against the golden arse? Guess she knows that now.

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MTG said it loud and clear. (Original Post) La Coliniere Sunday OP
If the federal DOJ is ignoring the death threats against political figures Chasstev365 Sunday #1
Ah, not real impressed.......kinda pissed at her for her snapping at Leslie..... a kennedy Sunday #2
I was pissed about that too. La Coliniere Sunday #3
"potentially dangerous" ??? skypilot Sunday #4
She's scary jfz9580m Sunday #7
I trust her as far as I could throw her Grim Chieftain 19 hrs ago #11
I doubt she'd consider herself a feminist. mr715 11 hrs ago #29
And the UK's first female prime minister was Margaret Thatcher nt EX500rider 6 hrs ago #34
She'll be back Jkanad 15 hrs ago #16
She stayed jaymac 15 hrs ago #18
And, AFAIK she's never apologized for it Pluvious 14 hrs ago #20
I looked it up... Pluvious 14 hrs ago #22
The parachute isn't golden. mr715 11 hrs ago #30
She did opt to only depart after the first date she vests IbogaProject 7 hrs ago #32
She has millions mr715 7 hrs ago #33
Not impressed by MTG? mr715 Sunday #6
MTG made Trump look REALLY gross womanofthehills 13 hrs ago #24
Yeah I'm really starting to think SomedayKindaLove 12 hrs ago #27
She isn't helping. mr715 Sunday #5
Well said. Gimpyknee 16 hrs ago #12
She is helping to split the party big time womanofthehills 12 hrs ago #25
No she isn't. mr715 11 hrs ago #28
I remember listening to NPR before the 2016 Dr. Shepper Sunday #8
She is a perfect example of why I am not anxious to have any of these Never Trumpers or Marie Marie Sunday #9
Trump runs the GOP like a Mafia Godfather. Emile 19 hrs ago #10
Use her, BUT bluestarone 15 hrs ago #13
She joined the ranks of... mercuryblues 15 hrs ago #14
What I don't understand is, didn't MTG also launch threats against people she didn't agree with? Baitball Blogger 15 hrs ago #15
Didn't she provide maps/floor plans to the Jan 6 rioters... 3catwoman3 15 hrs ago #17
She was not concerned enough not to run before randr 14 hrs ago #19
Womp Womp purr-rat beauty 14 hrs ago #21
Wolf in sheeps clothing tsktsk 13 hrs ago #23
Kicked! KPN 12 hrs ago #26
- Lemon Lyman 11 hrs ago #31
From the NYT, 11 articles mention and explain stochastic terrorism... reACTIONary 6 hrs ago #35

Chasstev365

(6,895 posts)
1. If the federal DOJ is ignoring the death threats against political figures
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 08:48 PM
Sunday

States should use any legal force they have to prosecute the people making the threats.

a kennedy

(35,059 posts)
2. Ah, not real impressed.......kinda pissed at her for her snapping at Leslie.....
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 08:53 PM
Sunday

Yah, glad she’s gone, and surely won’t miss her.

La Coliniere

(1,704 posts)
3. I was pissed about that too.
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 09:03 PM
Sunday

I fully acknowledge that many of her responses were in alignment with dangerous MAGA notions, her stance on Covid vaccines for instance. I just wanted to point out that one particular element of the interview, stochastic terrorism. I still view MTG as a potentially dangerous figure in our national politics.

skypilot

(9,089 posts)
4. "potentially dangerous" ???
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 09:38 PM
Sunday

Hopefully not. She claims that she will not be seeking any other political office. I hope she's not lying. For once.

jfz9580m

(16,357 posts)
7. She's scary
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 09:58 PM
Sunday

She is better at that populist shtick than the douchebag in office.

That would be such a score for them over all of us feminists. After all the hullabaloo, the first female POTUS being one of these magat women. After all, Britain’s first non-white PM was that sleazy little turd Rishi Sunak.

That’s generally the style of these systems and societies - to try (unsuccessfully) to break feminists while elevating women who work with those creeps.

One of MTG’s recent rants was scary since, yet again, it almost sounded feminist*.

Of course it isn’t, it’s purely self-serving theatre.

(*: I am personally relishing reclaiming that term. Feminism is at its lowest point with corporations abandoning all pretence of giving a shit about women’s rights. I hate being near the phony marketplace version. That syncretic stuff is bullshit) .

mr715

(2,522 posts)
29. I doubt she'd consider herself a feminist.
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 02:44 PM
11 hrs ago

She'd claim that is just identity politics.

She is a figment of light and shadow, soon to disappear forever into the annals of history.

jaymac

(160 posts)
18. She stayed
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 11:08 AM
15 hrs ago

for the congressional golden parachute. She's vile, I remember her chasing that Parkland survivor, David Hogg, and screaming at him as he walked. Vile creature.

Pluvious

(5,170 posts)
22. I looked it up...
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 12:24 PM
14 hrs ago

Here is Apple's AI response (with references left out) :

No, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene has not issued a specific, direct apology to David Hogg for the harassment incident.

In February 2021, amidst a House vote to strip her of committee assignments, Greene made a general statement in a closed-door meeting and on the House floor where she expressed regret for "words of the past" and engaging in "toxic politics". She clarified that she no longer believed the Parkland shooting was a "false flag" operation and said she knew the fear David Hogg experienced.

However, when specifically asked by reporters if she was sorry for following and hounding Hogg in a March 2019 video, she defended her actions. Greene stated that Hogg was an adult at the time and that she was not sorry for telling him he should not push for gun control.

David Hogg dismissed her general statements as insincere, noting they only came when her committee assignments were threatened. He stated that he did not need her apology, but that she owed one to the families of all mass shooting victims. Other activists and victims' families continue to call for a public and sincere apology for the specific harassment.

mr715

(2,522 posts)
30. The parachute isn't golden.
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 02:45 PM
11 hrs ago

She's wealthy, she didn't need the extra $250/month she'd get from her vested fund. Her timing wasn't about finances

IbogaProject

(5,497 posts)
32. She did opt to only depart after the first date she vests
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 07:03 PM
7 hrs ago

Yes she can't draw until she is 62 but she will still be vested if she lives until Jan 5, the effective date of her "resignation".

mr715

(2,522 posts)
33. She has millions
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 07:14 PM
7 hrs ago

She'll make millions more if people pay attention to her.

The timing of her retirement is an afterthought - for all I know, it might even be considerate for her staff, I don't know.

mr715

(2,522 posts)
6. Not impressed by MTG?
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 09:45 PM
Sunday

Yeah, she doesn't really impress. She just kind of fills space with an air of aggression and grievance. And stoopid. True blue stoopid. That is stoopid with like, a lot of o's.

womanofthehills

(10,672 posts)
24. MTG made Trump look REALLY gross
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 01:23 PM
13 hrs ago

If it’s possible to make him more gross. I guess his gross limit has yet to be reached.

MTG - “I stood for women who were raped when they were 14 years old. And the president that I fought for for five years called me a traitor for that “ mTG

Talking to Trump:
"We did talk about the Epstein files. And he was extremely angry at me that I had signed the discharge petition to release the files."

-Trump got mad at her for believing the women:
"I fully believe that those women deserve everything they're asking. They're asking for all of it to come out. They deserve it. And he was furious with me..."

-
"He said that it was going to hurt people... 'People will get hurt.' I don't know what that means. I don't know who they are.
MTG

The Republicans Civil war continues but now it’s getting ever dirtier as they start reporting on their sordid lives.
Over 100 million Americans are on Twitter and many saw this very damaging statement about Trump.

Over on X- the hate between Republicans is escalating- Now Fuentes is attacking Tucker, Candace and Ian who previously stood up for him on genocide. Milo is attacking Benny Johnson, Fuentes and Turning Points. Turning Points Blake Neff went after Candace and now it’s reported Tucker fired Neff yrs ago for extreme racist texts. Milo is telling the world that family man Benny Johnson has been seen in many hotels with very young men - maybe underage. They are all screaming dirt at each other. A real life soap opera over there.

SomedayKindaLove

(1,170 posts)
27. Yeah I'm really starting to think
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 02:31 PM
12 hrs ago

The Civil War people might be worried about is actually going to be MAGA vs MAGA

mr715

(2,522 posts)
5. She isn't helping.
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 09:41 PM
Sunday

She blamed Stahl / applied an equivalence to her.

MTG is full of shit, she is a coward, and she isn't someone to be taken seriously.

And she got dumped. And she's having feelings over it.

Pay no attention to Ms. Greene - it turns out we didn't need to go to the doctor, that stone passed itself.

womanofthehills

(10,672 posts)
25. She is helping to split the party big time
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 01:37 PM
12 hrs ago

If it’s possible to split it even more. By yesterdays Republican tell all on each others posts on X - sex, race, drugs, threats etc
Have you been following the Republican Civil War??? OMG! The Republicans hate for each other is off the wall. They are so busy putting down each other - they are no longer going after Dems.

mr715

(2,522 posts)
28. No she isn't.
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 02:42 PM
11 hrs ago

She will prostrate herself before Trump the moment the invitation is extended. This is typical performance from the party of performative grievance.

She may as well be handling snakes and speaking in tongues. There is nothing real happening there.

Dr. Shepper

(3,199 posts)
8. I remember listening to NPR before the 2016
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 10:24 PM
Sunday

Election and the man who was being interviewed said if DT didn’t win, they would need to start a civil war. Not a peep from the press then. Still not a peep now. I stopped listening to NPR after that.

Marie Marie

(10,806 posts)
9. She is a perfect example of why I am not anxious to have any of these Never Trumpers or
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 11:11 PM
Sunday

Recent Anti-MAGAs join the Democratic Party. They do not share our beliefs or values and would water down our agenda. Speak out against Trump? By all means - DO IT! Then my best hope is that they either vote once with the Democrats as a protest or just sit out the elections and pout. MTG is still vile.

Baitball Blogger

(51,581 posts)
15. What I don't understand is, didn't MTG also launch threats against people she didn't agree with?
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 10:49 AM
15 hrs ago

I get that it's the MAGAs who are doing the death threats. But doesn't this mean that they always assumed they could launch these threatening strategies against Lefties thinking that we would never turn around and repeat their example?

It's an odd situation. I had a close relative that was a bully, and also taught the rest of the family that I was, somehow, the person they could relieve their stress by repeating her example. As we grew to be adults and they continued the old patterns, when I asked them to stop, they claimed I was too sensitive. I thought it was a strange family dynamic. Somehow, they expected me to accept the taunts and ridicule. It was my role in the family. The only real way to stop them is to return the toxic behavior, though, when I did, they said I was just being mean. In the end, I resolved it by walking away.

But I see the same thing happening at a national level. We have the MAGAs who think this form of behavior is normal. And the rest of us who see it as a toxic situation that we want no part of. Not sure the healthy way out of this where we're still able talk to each other and respect each other.

3catwoman3

(28,382 posts)
17. Didn't she provide maps/floor plans to the Jan 6 rioters...
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 10:56 AM
15 hrs ago

...at which time she had been in office all of 3 days?

purr-rat beauty

(898 posts)
21. Womp Womp
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 12:20 PM
14 hrs ago

Her promotion of hateful rhetoric and bigoted policies while using guns to push her message was certainly Stochastic in nature. She helped feed many violent acts including the assault on our Capitol.

If something happens...she'll elicit the same reaction from me as Kirk's unaliving did

Zero fucks given

tsktsk

(6 posts)
23. Wolf in sheeps clothing
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 12:42 PM
13 hrs ago

Yea green pond scum said it loud and clear when she screamed LIAR at President Biden during joint session of congress. Did you notice how she tried to turn the tables on stalling old over the hill Leslie. Don't bring up past events where I have been a total ignorant asshole. Please little pig let me in I am different now that my BOSS Rump has kicked me in the groin. I am not setting myself up to run for any other office says the consummate liar. No longer sucking at the tit of the old GOP sow. She has done 000000 for the people of her district except lead these otherwise good people down the path of ignorance and hate. Her answer as to not supporting the anti antisemitism resolution was a farce. Antisemitism had been said over and over in congress and I won't get on my knees to the Israeli PAC. She not only got on her knees but all fours whenever Rump asked her to.

She left because Rump and GOP national committee were going to primary her and not give her any funding.

DO NOT FALL FOR A CON, SHE LEARNED FROM THE VERY BEST OF THEM.
signing off for now |=| . . . - - - . . .

Lemon Lyman

(1,552 posts)
31. -
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 02:45 PM
11 hrs ago

Funny that with all the disgusting sh*t she did & said against Dems, she never had to worry about some psychopath threatening her or those close to her until she spoke out against her own side.

reACTIONary

(6,902 posts)
35. From the NYT, 11 articles mention and explain stochastic terrorism...
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 08:18 PM
6 hrs ago

I don't want to go over the quote limit, but here are a few...

Experts say Americans must now become familiar with the concept of “stochastic terrorism,” the idea that the constant demonization of a public figure, party or group can increase the likelihood a lone actor will carry out a horrific crime against a member of that group.


Many of this newsletter’s readers may have heard of the term “stochastic terrorism.” The best concise definition I’ve read comes from an Australian academic and researcher named Todd Morley. Writing in the Small Wars Journal, he defined it as “a quantifiable relationship between seemingly random acts of terrorism and the perpetuation of hateful rhetoric in public discourse, accompanied by catastrophizing and fear generation in media sources.”


In that sense, the request for the gag order was as much about so-called stochastic terrorism — the idea that demonizing someone through mass communication increases the chances that a lone wolf will be inspired to attack the target — as it was about more traditional concern of keeping a jury from being influenced by statements outside of court.


Some extremism researchers see those two explanations as so intertwined that there is even a name for the sort of violence they can jointly provoke: stochastic terrorism. Stochastic terrorism is defined as violence committed by an attacker who, though acting on personal volition, is inspired by language demonizing the target. It has existed for as long as hatemongers have urged their communities to despise some racial or religious minority in their midst.

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