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It's only 3 minutes.
Gaugamela
(3,128 posts)Pluvious
(5,171 posts)ret5hd
(22,079 posts)doublethink
(7,265 posts)If anyone interested ... To post youtube shorts replace shorts/ with
watch?v= in the script. Peace.
Mr. Evil
(3,430 posts)doublethink
(7,265 posts)you posted. Thank you!
jfz9580m
(16,359 posts)Pretty succinct..
Timeflyer
(3,564 posts)Mr. Evil
(3,430 posts)to death and treated like turnips that they can squeeze actual blood from.
Prairie_Seagull
(4,580 posts)Well placed gut punch.
Kid Berwyn
(22,545 posts)
Additional important history to know...
Alex Carey: Corporations and Propaganda
The Attack on Democracy
The 20th century, said Carey, is marked by three historic developments: the growth of democracy via the expansion of the franchise, the growth of corporations, and the growth of propaganda to protect corporations from democracy. Carey wrote that the people of the US have been subjected to an unparalleled, expensive, 3/4 century long propaganda effort designed to expand corporate rights by undermining democracy and destroying the unions. And, in his manuscript, unpublished during his life time, he described that history, going back to World War I and ending with the Reagan era. Carey covers the little known role of the US Chamber of Commerce in the McCarthy witch hunts of post WWII and shows how the continued campaign against "Big Government" plays an important role in bringing Reagan to power.
John Pilger called Carey "a second Orwell", Noam Chomsky dedicated his book, Manufacturing Consent, to him. And even though TUC Radio runs our documentary based on Carey's manuscript at least every two years and draws a huge response each time, Alex Carey is still unknown.
Given today's spotlight on corporations that may change. It is not only the Occupy movement that inspired me to present this program again at this time. By an amazing historic coincidence Bill Moyers and Charlie Cray of Greenpeace have just added the missing chapter to Carey's analysis. Carey's manuscript ends in 1988 when he committed suicide. Moyers and Cray begin with 1971 and bring the corporate propaganda project up to date.
This is a fairly complex production with many voices, historic sound clips, and source material. The program has been used by writers and students of history and propaganda. Alex Carey: Taking the Risk out of Democracy, Corporate Propaganda VS Freedom and Liberty with a foreword by Noam Chomsky was published by the University of Illinois Press in 1995.
Source: TUC Radio
Part 1: https://tucradio.org/podcasts/newest-podcasts/alex-carey-corporations-and-propaganda-part-one-of-two/
Part 2: https://tucradio.org/podcasts/newest-podcasts/alex-carey-corporations-and-propaganda-part-two-of-two/
Gore Vidal on what Americans read, see and hear via Corporate McPravda:
"A writer must always tell the truth, unless he is a journalist."
The corporate grip on opinion in the United States is one of the wonders of the Western world. No First World country has ever managed to eliminate so entirely from its media all objectivity - much less dissent.
When you control opinion, as corporate America controls opinion in the United States by owning the media, you can make the masses believe almost anything you want, and guide them as you please.
Heres an observation from me, back in 2024 when SCROTUS birthed King Taco:
What hasnt gotten enough mention in the coverage of Trumps Imperial Immunity and discussion of what constitutes official and unofficial conduct on ABCNNBCBSFoxNutz is what the ruling really means: SCOTUS just used a Sharpie on the Constitution to write in Donald J Trump where it used to read We the People.
Wild blueberry
(8,044 posts)Will look into this. Appreciate your post!
Kid Berwyn
(22,545 posts)TUC Radio replays the Alex Carey pieces every year because they need to be heard, remembered and shared by as many people as possible
chia
(2,742 posts)Russian? Slavic, maybe? I don't know but, he's right on. The powermad leaders and their billionaire benefactors (along with their warped power fantasies) are killing us all.
1WorldHope
(1,814 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(9,794 posts)Good on him.
popsdenver
(1,314 posts)along with many Dems, when during a debate with Trump.... Hillary Clinton stated:
"There is a giant Republican, Right Wing Conspiracy"
And people all continued walking down the jungle path, swatting at Mosquitoes, and remained oblivious to the herd of charging elephants.....................???????????????????
sarchasm
(1,287 posts)very well stated ...
KPN
(17,093 posts)At the same time, the argument does seem fairly sound to me. The one exception is that not all American people belong in the heroes category. There are plenty who applaud the "corporatization" of our country and government; plenty who aspire to wealth and joining the 1% or better - the .1%; plenty even though, for some, their chance of doing so is almost non--existent.
I had the same concern. I always research things I read online, and would love to know more about this fellow. His accent raised red flags...
His words hit the bullseye for me, though. Well-thought out and succinct. I agree with every word.
That doesn't preclude a Russian origin.
Anything to destabilize America is their aim.
betsuni
(28,600 posts)brakester
(513 posts)Can you give us some background on that video?
I agree with everything he said!
His accent, for me, raised some questions.
Mr. Evil
(3,430 posts)That's the only time I've seen it. It was posted by a 'Nyberg Peggy' who happens to be an older lady that makes cloth dolls. I'm guessing she shared it from somewhere else. Sorry, that's about all I know.
jfz9580m
(16,359 posts)Incidentally, I was just reading a journalist I respect and like a lot, Yasha Levine, who was talking about how Europeans made some of the best documentaries on the net..
(I didnt agree with the specific examples he gave as I took an immediate and profound dislike to Adam Curtis. Dian Fossey was awesome and Curtis can go fuck himself..I agree with his self characterisation as some sort of creepy, family values neoconservative who attacks environmentalists using bullshit. The real colonization here is one species destroying an entire planet for every whim it has..He is the type of person I truly loathe.
I think Yasha is awesome and invariably agree with Yasha on most of what he dislikes
less so wrt anyone or anything he likes
.
But thats okay..disagreement is allowed on the left unlike among the monarchists.
Left or right there is a strong dominion theology style earth exists for humans to exploit mentality in the species everywhere. Every trivial human superstition is accorded more weight than common decency to other lifeforms (and I dont mean bloody ai). It is not surprising that something that rotten morphs into manipulation, exploitation, swindling and subjugation of ones fellow humans eventually. Full credit to Nathan Robinson for addressing that.
Its not surprising that environmentalists, feminists (not lean in etc), scientists (not the tech creeps) and atheists in combination are so unpopular - for full control over the material world and destruction of democracy those are all groups to delete.
I do worry separately though that the effect of the techno oligarchs will be to - in our species typical mindless backlash fashion - cause neoconservative hogging of the backlash to sell family values/pronatalism and other deeply regressive values, while attacking womens rights/feminism/lgbtq rights & science. Iow narrowly focus only on working class values - syncretic bs..the environment has already been tacitly dumped as unimportant by both sides except in explicitly human centric terms. There is a tendency in that type of rot left/right to attack womens rights as imperialist or some such bullshit. I see it with the creepy mens rights types where I live all the time. I fight for privacy but thanks to the present environment while I think it can be won, in the interim I worry about poor data hygiene. I would definitely not want the types of meninists I see on my street to assume that sympathy for a different type of left means they are in any way cool.).
The broader point though is probably true. And Yasha is always cool.
Humanityfirst
(8 posts)Please let us know.
sl8
(16,959 posts)Hotler
(13,701 posts)RetiredParatrooper
(10 posts)The divide isn't entirely Left/Right, it is Top/Bottom.
By design.
Ask 'Who Profits?' from all this chaos.
