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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhen did it become common to insult female reporters with no backlash at all?
Just heard on MS NOW how he insulted yet another female reporter asking him a legit question. I dont care who he is, he needs to be put in his place once and for all. I know this is too much to ask but he has to be confronted once in a while. The fact that the press corps walks it back just proves how far we have been degraded. In what world would this ever have been accepted?
Lovie777
(21,385 posts)Ocelot II
(128,621 posts)They're lucky he doesn't grab them by the p&ssy, which he can do because he's famous.
Irish_Dem
(78,697 posts)I assume they keep their distance when around him.
BidenRocks
(2,624 posts)He would need the SS to save him!
Skittles
(168,942 posts)I asked guys I worked with if that fell into "locker room talk". They all said no, aw HELL NO, you'd get your ass kicked. Guys have sisters, daughters, mothers, they don't care for perversion.
unblock
(55,841 posts)The fact that they didn't destroy his career after maligning the entire industry, bashing their entire product and premise of their business model, showed how deeply they were already in the bag for Donnie, and it's only gotten worse since then.
maxsolomon
(38,022 posts)it was gaining usage in 2016 to describe RW bullshit, and Trump started hurling it at mainstream news orgs.
the MSM is less "in the bag" for Trump as they're hobbled by their adherence to Journalistic Objectivity. they've gotten buried by a tsunami of lies.
"flood the zone with shit" -s. bannon
unblock
(55,841 posts)There's nothing objective about continually normalizing lies, propaganda, crimes, constitutional violations, corruption, threats of violence, abuses of power, impeachable offenses, bribery, cheating, extortion, and severe mental illnesses in a president, hus party, and his administration.
There's nothing objective about covering and largely dismissing scandals when they Donnie does them 10 times worse than anything democrats did, while relentlessly attacking democrats to the point of ending careers for even nothingburgers.
Yes, they do use things like false equivalencies, then pretend it's to be objective. But they're not doing objectivity or journalism properly, they're selectively applying or ignoring those principles in a biased fashion.
struggle4progress
(125,281 posts)The only tune that the fiddle would play was -- Oh, the dreadful wind and rain
Torchlight
(6,232 posts)I'll also give him credit that he convinced many otherwise intelligent people to place the blame on the media for his behavior and actions.
Tetrachloride
(9,294 posts)usonian
(22,923 posts)Moral midgets. Do they let strangers beat their wives and kids? Kick their pets?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Here's their stance.

They must need knee pads for all the standing up for decency they do.
Verbal abuse is abuse.
littlemissmartypants
(31,090 posts)We're all currently in an abusive relationship with our government.
It's this:

Verses this:

Escape
(349 posts)is as preposterous as Trump's behavior. If they, or others in the room, won't stand up to him, we can't blame him anymore for the bullying.
Is there not a SINGLE brave reporter in this country? This is getting ridiculous and it's going to get worse every time they let him get away with it.
The reporters seem to think they are limited by some kind of ethical framework. There are no ethics now. There are no rules.
Yell, scream, cuss, argue, insult, threaten the sick sonofabitch every time he opens his lying fucking mouth.
Do something!
OrangeJoe
(547 posts)While it would undoubtedly be very satisfying to curse him out thats just playing his game. A reporter ( preferably a man) needs to just put on his best dad or teacher voice and after he insults one of the women just say What is wrong with you? Didnt your parents teach you to respect others? Do you think acting like a 14 year old brat is appropriate? And at that point the press corps needs to fold up their note pads, turn off the cameras and walk out en mass.
Ligyron
(7,996 posts)Our nation trains its lonely eyes on you.
mcar
(45,554 posts)press secretaries in Dem administrations. When it's an R in the WH, they are compliant and complicit. Gotta get those book deals!
Hope22
(4,385 posts)It wont be long until they cant vote. Forced to carry their rapists spawn at this point. Most Men in general are not willing to help defend our rights. Rights that others fought for with their blood and souls. We cant do it alone so it will not be. I have to guess this is the way they want it. Iraq has come home to roost.
underpants
(194,297 posts)It tues in with child rapists like Dave Portnoy and bridges over to the child rapist Andrew Tate world.
Iggo
(49,517 posts)littlemissmartypants
(31,090 posts)maxsolomon
(38,022 posts)who is supposed to put the POTUS "in his place"?
belligerent cruelty is what Americans stood up on their hind legs and voted for.
Katinfl
(586 posts)Someone to tell him they dont have to stand there and take his crap. Someone to tell him they are NOT nasty, low IQ or any of the other names he calls them. He really is so childish its laughable. Only in this day and age is it tolerated and I find that frightening. None of this will happen, of course, but I can dream.
maxsolomon
(38,022 posts)I fear Trump would begin yelling over the top of them almost immediately.
That reporter would burn their career to the ground. They'd be out of the WH press corp that day. The news org they work would probably lose access - which none of them are willing to risk.
Attilatheblond
(8,022 posts)It's not like he's going to say anything real. Just do not attend the lying jackass
Martin68
(26,802 posts)Gimpyknee
(1,025 posts)Torchlight
(6,232 posts)rubbersole
(10,947 posts)Oh, wait...
TygrBright
(21,269 posts)Glaisne
(612 posts)Instead of just taking it. Call him out on his lies, BS, and insults.
lastlib
(27,318 posts)Maybe 2015.
When AnusMouth started fucking up everything.
I get your drift. I wish SOMEBODY in that press room would yell at him to pick on somebody his own size--like Pootin.
senseandsensibility
(24,156 posts)decided their meal tickets (a cushy low demand job that pays millions) was worth more than their integrity. And I'm speaking mostly about the WH Press corps.
edhopper
(36,946 posts)The same day the Media decided all norm didn't matter.
slightlv
(7,227 posts)they've stripped us of our bodily autonomy, our rights, our civil liberties, and they're coming after our vote. Next, it'll be our lives. we'll be nothing more than Islamist women... not daring to go out of the house for fear of being beaten for having done so. These NAR Dominionist preachers are just right there with their Islamist Jihadi Imams. There isn't an inch worth of different between them. Look at Afghanistan... Look at Iraq... look at any of the smaller islamist states. You'll see exactly what's heading for women in the United States unless we start doing something drastic... maybe even violent.
Remember... they don't think we CAN be violent. They think we're stupid and suicidally empathetic. They don't expect violence from us. But WE were born of the same violent revolution as the men were... all traceable to 1776. It didn't skip our genetics, in fact I think freedom is bred further into OUR genes than that of the men. If it weren't the men wouldn't stand for what has happened in this country for over 10 years. Maybe there ought to be a huge run on guns bought by women for women in all 50 states! I say, let's get serious about taking back our rights!
jfz9580m
(16,357 posts)These guys are more scared of a woman who stands up for herself unarmed and nonviolently .
I am certainly very much in the non-violent camp always. It terrifies them when a woman just refuses to bend to their will.
To me at least it signals weakness to see these guys armed to the teeth and bullying their way forward with weapons, hacking and psychological games.
You just have to stand there and refuse to back down, refuse to compromise..
I love the style of older women like my ex mother in law or my mom etc when they turn out in full force without weapons or bloodshed. Public school teachers, old women who have been activists forever..People who I now realize, got us all the rights we enjoyed.
People of my generation (Gen X ;-/) and in white collar jobs dont really know how to do that. The millennials even have their version which is too alien to me since it involves tech platforms which I loathe.
The older women of my mom in laws generation knew how to go about it.
I am kinda trying to find my feet as a Gen Xer who mostly went:
..wait, what now? What just happened? I thought we had rights..
I really liked a couple of posts by DUers CrispyQ and BigmanPigman (both involving Indivisible). Because I cant find my feet in the tech and influencer heavy world.
Grassroots activism is different.
I keep repeating that word like I just found it, because it clicked finally. I used to feel so bleak seeing this world where everything results in another tacky tell all grift or Ted tech talk or some unrelatable response. Till it percolated through my head enough that it finally clicked..grassroots activism..thats the one.
Now if I could figure out the next step..
Blaukraut
(5,978 posts)from his press pool soon and nobody will fight him on that, either.
yellow dahlia
(4,126 posts)peppertree
(23,058 posts)Nothing can be too bigoted, misogynist, fascist, incompetent, corrupt - or just plain vicious.

jfz9580m
(16,357 posts)As I point out and will keep hammering home from here on out, it isnt only Trump though he displays it in its ugliest form.
This accelerated attack on democracy and womens rights, environmental protections and safety nets started with the rise of this present version of technofascism.
They were (apparently) sneakier than their predecessors in big Agra, the fossil fuel industry, big pharma etc.
I am so glad that with Trump 2.0, tech has dropped the mask and now we can attack the roots of this Trump cancer. They are contemptuous of women on a scale I couldnt have imagined as I found out painfully over the last 15 years.
These are people who collect large amounts of data on us all. Fortunately, they are pretty inept. But with an unsuspecting population, even the crudest social engineering works at first.
Its up to us to pushback now. I am.
LetMyPeopleVote
(173,661 posts)LilElf70
(1,305 posts)He has always insulted people his entire life. It comes natural to this loser. He thinks it's good for theatrics and feeds his narcissistic requirements. He has no clue what in the hell he is doing, nor cares who he offends. He never did. And nothing will change.
I say, challenge his ass. What's he gonna do now?
Ocelot II
(128,621 posts)He'd respond in his typical crass, crude, insulting way, but that basic question would be hanging out there. WHAT. THE. HELL. IS. WRONG. WITH. YOU?
flvegan
(65,597 posts)The stroke inducing rage would be unfortunate.
Ocelot II
(128,621 posts)Takket
(23,401 posts)supporters now!!!!!!!