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even though i still would want you know who gone, do we really want vance who is worse .? (Original Post) AllaN01Bear Dec 8 OP
Catch 22 SuzyandPuffpuff Dec 8 #1
Shady McMaybelline Jilly_in_VA Dec 8 #2
Totally agree. Dave Bowman Dec 8 #5
Vance is awful, but I doubt he will be able to hold the MAGA cult together. Ocelot II Dec 8 #3
We have 2 bad options MustLoveBeagles Dec 8 #4
Agree with everyone else Freddie Dec 8 #6
Well the RWers are preparing him.................. Lovie777 Dec 8 #7
Vance isn't worse. mr715 Dec 8 #8
One step at a time. Sneederbunk Dec 8 #9
I don't think Vance will be as effective because he doesn't have tbe following trump has. electric_blue68 Dec 8 #10

Jilly_in_VA

(14,092 posts)
2. Shady McMaybelline
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 04:46 PM
Dec 8

doesn't have a cult following. Without him, I think MAGA will fall apart. Nobody likes him at all and I don't think he can get Congress to work with him, not even the RepubliKKKans. Without Shitler, I think the coalition, such as it is, will all apart. It's already cracking.

Ocelot II

(129,734 posts)
3. Vance is awful, but I doubt he will be able to hold the MAGA cult together.
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 04:47 PM
Dec 8

Nobody seems to like him much, and it's likely that once President Piggy is gone (the sooner the better), the GOP will turn into something like a jar full of scorpions, with ambitious politicians trying to take Vance's presumed 2028 nomination away from him.

MustLoveBeagles

(15,197 posts)
4. We have 2 bad options
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 04:51 PM
Dec 8

It can be argued that JD can't necessarily rely on Maga support like trump can. I agree with you that he's not any better.


Freddie

(10,075 posts)
6. Agree with everyone else
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 04:55 PM
Dec 8

He doesn’t have the devoted fan base. He’ll be the 21st century Gerald Ford. Except Ford was probably the last pretty decent Republican president.

Lovie777

(22,276 posts)
7. Well the RWers are preparing him..................
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 04:56 PM
Dec 8

although he might have give up his present wife and date a blonde, wink wink.

mr715

(3,246 posts)
8. Vance isn't worse.
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 05:13 PM
Dec 8

Vance is an opportunist and without character, no doubt. But he doesn't have the sorcery that Trump does.

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