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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHere's who attended a white nationalist conference at a Tenn. state park
For years, the guest list for an annual white nationalist gathering at Tennessees Montgomery Bell State Park has been a closely guarded secret.
Ocelot II
(128,636 posts)What poisons these people's minds? I don't get it.
Johnny2X2X
(23,654 posts)FOX News poisons their minds.
llmart
(17,219 posts)Sure, he eggs them on with his cowardly rhetoric, but in the 1990's we had the Michigan Militia and McVey and then the Bundys. The better question would be why are these youngish men so full of hatred? Some of them look like they're barely out of high school. That Huggins kid looks like he's a regular incel.
Codifer
(1,140 posts)Rural radio focused on getting people to hate. Hate anything and everything no matter how vague the reasoning or false the story.
As a child and on family vacations in the west I was in awe of the beauty of the land and figured that to be lucky enough to live in places of such beauty and living free would be heaven. I was so naive but not entirely wrong.
But talk radio, unburdened by any obligation to fairness or truth, has managed to create hatred out of paradise. Once established and ingrained ,all that then need be done is to give it direction. Hate John Kerry, hate Hillary, hate Obama, hate books and professors who make it so dang hard for a decent white working man to feed his litter. Hatred is the base and a valuable commodity.
Then comes Tulsa and Krystalnacht and Kent State and Mai Lai and Oklahoma City and January sixth and tsf with all his sad carnival.
Diamond_Dog
(39,507 posts)Ocelot II
(128,636 posts)That's a much bigger and older question than just Trump and Fox - it's why people think that way or allow themselves to be influenced to think that way. Why were there Nazis 80 years ago? Why was there slavery? Why did the Ku Klux Klan exist? Why are some people so horrible to other people? Kind of a big, cosmic, ancient question. For awhile I was naive enough to think maybe we as a country would never go back to that sort of thing, but I guess some of us are just as evil as ever.
Joinfortmill
(19,760 posts)Deuxcents
(25,157 posts)cbabe
(6,038 posts)montgomerybellpark.com
https://montgomerybellpark.com
Montgomery Bell State Park - A natural retreat just outside of Nashville
Montgomery Bell State Park is located in Burns, Tennessee, approximately 40 minutes west of Nashville. To reach the park, visitors can follow
evolves
(5,716 posts)all panthers here....
multigraincracker
(36,808 posts)Didnt see one white face in that group.
efhmc
(15,996 posts)dalton99a
(91,531 posts)malaise
(291,766 posts)Thanks for posting
lonely bird
(2,666 posts)A lot of frightened White people.
Demographic change is a bitch, poor babies.
BaronChocula
(3,894 posts)Though it is the enclave of Nashville. Still...
littlemissmartypants
(31,112 posts)TY, BWNE. ❤️
electric_blue68
(25,373 posts)Having paid some attention to these hate filled bigots off, and on for decades it's kind of still shocking, but not surprising to me.
😑 😬 😟
I guess holding a meeting by Stone Mountain would be too conspicuous!
That would be Stone Mountain, GA by Atlanta. Features largest bas-relief carving of Confederate "heroes" on it's side. Oh, and birthplace of the modern KKK. (oh, "yippie!" )
😑 😬😬 😟
I saw it from a distance decades back visiting a friend in GA.
PatSeg
(51,743 posts)They put so much time and energy into their hatred.
FakeNoose
(39,796 posts)Paper Roses
(7,604 posts)70sEraVet
(5,192 posts)A law that requires any group that rents a state park (a park that belongs to the taxpayers!) to host a private event, MUST reveal the names of all attendees.
The video made it apparent that many of the attendees would rather not be outed as white supremacists.
nuxvomica
(13,826 posts)They are brave, real journalists.
chia
(2,742 posts)maxsolomon
(38,037 posts)Can't you just type it into the OP?
Iggo
(49,522 posts)Joinfortmill
(19,760 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(12,419 posts)One is lawyer for the clan
Another celebrates the guy who drove his car into the protestor
Another celebrates the mass killer who gunned down 85 children in Sweden(?) Or Norway(?)
MustBeTheBooz
(344 posts)maxrandb
(17,076 posts)Iggo
(49,522 posts)Upthevibe
(9,929 posts)Joinfortmill
(19,760 posts)Warpy
(114,322 posts)in numbers large enough to hold hate conventions to justify doing violence to their neighbors, but mystupid parents moved to the south during a local Klan resurgence and I started getting lessons in human stupidity and depravity and I learned how much of it came from their churches.
It's just hard to realize that after 60 years of slow integration and finding out we're all human that his kind of hate has so many people still managing to cling to it.
I guess some people just live to hate and we'll always be stuc with them.
GiqueCee
(3,182 posts)... filth like these diseased monsters dare to call themselves Americans enrages me beyond words. It's amazing that they cannot see that their poisonous diatribes highlight an inbred weakness of character, not strength. I'd give a cockroach on my dinner plate more consideration than I would afford one of these assholes.
Judi Lynn
(164,039 posts)Du'ers, please take care.
Thanks for the information.
70sEraVet
(5,192 posts)I wonder what he will have to say about this. He ran on NO issues, other than to say that he will vote to pass trump's ideas.
So I guess on the subject of the white supremacist conference in his District, he will say that 'there are very fine people on both sides'.
Rafi
(259 posts)An event, that literally scared the hell out of me for many months, happened one summer evening in the 1950s. I guess I was six or seven, because I was just old enough to be out at dusk riding my bike on my own. I was pedaling a few blocks from home towards downtown Decatur. As I approached the city square and the old, granite (quarried from Stone Mountain, birthplace of the resurrected Klan) courthouse, I could tell something out of the ordinary was going on. I heard a loud voice speaking through either a microphone or megaphone and there was an unusual glow in the leaves of the huge, old, oak trees and the night sky around the courthouse. When I got within thirty yards or so, I got off my bike, crept closer and hid in some bushes across the street from the courthouse. Like most kids my age I loved spying on folks from hidden places, especially if you thought you might see something you arent supposed to see.
When I was close enough to get a good look, the sight chilled me to the bone and to this day the memory stirs dark feelings in my soul. A huge cross, maybe twenty feet tall, was burning on the Decatur courthouse lawn (Decatur is the county seat of Dekalb County). There was a figure on the front steps of the courthouse dressed in what looked like a Halloween ghosts costume, except much more sinister. It was swathed in a flowing white robe, but on its head with holes poked in an old sheet to see out of. This figure had a pointed hood on its head that looked like an evil wizards hood from a scary, fairytale. He was shouting and gesturing, and some of the crowd, which must have been a couple of hundred people, were howling and cheering his words. Huge, dark, ominous shadows were cast upon the old, three story, solid granite building. Other hooded horrors were leaning out of windows shouting and waving wildly. I was terrified, but transfixed, afraid if I moved a muscle someone would see me. I couldnt stand the thought of being brought close to one of those nightmare apparitions. I must have crouched in the bushes for thirty minutes or so, though it seemed like hours. Finally, the cross was extinguished and the crowd began to disperse. I made my way through the bushes and back to my bike. As I raced home, my heart was pounding so hard in my chest I could scarcely catch my breath. When I got to the house I ran inside and went straight to my room. My mom came in and asked where Id been so late because I was always to be home before dark. I said I was very sorry, that some guys had chased me and I had to take a long way home. She could tell I was scared, but had no idea why, other than being out late.
Later, alone in my room, I tried to imagine what it was that I had witnessed, but I had no reference in my experience for an explanation. I only knew I had seen something evil. As I thought about that event, over the next few days, I wondered if I had noticed any adults I knew in the crowd at the courthouse. But, it had been dark and I was so intent on the robed figures I couldnt remember. And for that I was damned glad. Years after that night, as I began to understand what had taken place, I would wonder again if any of the men I knew, who worked at the filling stations, hardware store, dry cleaners or drugstores in Decatur, had hidden their true identities behind those hoods. The frightening feeling I got, when I thought about it, was similar to the panicked paranoia of the townsfolk in the classic sci-fi thriller The Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Those poor people never knew when their friends, neighbors, or even family members, would turn out to be one of the space creatures hatched from an alien seedpod. Truly, the creature walked among us.
70sEraVet
(5,192 posts)I grew up in the North, so I had no real notion of what was going on in the South -- except for the evening news.
I currently live in a rural county in middle Tennessee, and I have been learning from folks about life under Jim Crow. My best friend here went to a one-room schoolhouse for his eight years of grade school, with no running water (outhouses in the back) and an old coal furnace that required two boys to get to school early so they could shovel the coal and get it going before school started. The large white school was 100 yards down the road. What startled me the most was realizing that my friend was the SAME AGE AS ME!
Oh, and the county didn't bother to build a high school for the black kids.
I found my own small way of making things right. I take care of the black folks who are buried here. It's not much, I know. But the living relatives appreciate it.
electric_blue68
(25,373 posts)And, later wondering who you might have known who as part of that then, and currently (at that time) a KKK'r, or supportive.
(As soon as you mentioned "unusual glow", I thought 'uh, oh, there probably going be a burning cross'. Yikes!)
Always a NYC'r but my mom in part being around her more taught me, pointed racism out to me up here in The North when I was pretty young; even if it was often worse in The South. Dad was against racism, too. They both eventually as I acquired them - welcomed my friends from all races to our home starting from around age 11.
B.See
(7,546 posts)be nice to see a list or transcript of the broadcast.
At the end of the piece however they did mention their online site that (a quick looksee reveals) has been covering a whole LOT of hate in Tennessee. So SOME at least are on the ball:
newschannel5.com/hate
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(12,419 posts)Transcript
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>> ON THIS MONDAY WE'RE
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GETTING BRAND-NEW INSIGHT
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ABOUT THE GUEST LIST FOR AN
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ANNUAL HATE CONFERENCE AT A
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STATE PARK RIGHT HERE IN
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MIDDLE TENNESSEE. AND WE'VE
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NOW DISCOVERED AND INCLUDES