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Eugene

(66,702 posts)
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 07:32 AM Wednesday

Trump Says 'I Don't Know Him' When Pressed About Apparent Hypocrisy In Pardoning Violent Drug Kingpin

Source: Mediaite

Trump Says ‘I Don’t Know Him’ When Pressed About Apparent Hypocrisy In Pardoning Violent Drug Kingpin

Alex Griffing
Tue, December 9, 2025 at 4:35 PM EST
2 min read

President Donald Trump sat down at the White House for a lengthy interview with Politico’s Dasha Burns, which was released on Tuesday.

Burns pressed Trump on the apparent hypocrisy of his pardoning a violent drug trafficker, former Honduran president Juan Orlando Hernández, while promising to crack down on drugs coming into the U.S., including killing drug smugglers in the Caribbean Sea with airstrikes.

Burns asked, “You pardoned former Honduran president Juan Orlando Hernández and let him out of prison even though he was convicted in a massive international drug trafficking scheme. How is that zero tolerance on drug trafficking if…”

Trump cut in, “Well, I don’t know him. And I know very little about him other than people said it was like, uh, an Obama/Biden type setup, where he was set up. He was the president of the country. The country, uh, deals in drugs, like probably you could say that about every country, and because he was the president, they gave him like 45 years in prison. And there are many people fighting for Honduras, very good people that I know. And they think he was treated horribly, and they asked me to do it, and I said I’ll do it.”

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Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-says-don-t-know-213544576.html

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Trump Says 'I Don't Know Him' When Pressed About Apparent Hypocrisy In Pardoning Violent Drug Kingpin (Original Post) Eugene Wednesday OP
Real convincing there bro, he wuz framed! Blues Heron Wednesday #1
So he is clueless and easily manipulated by those around him Renew Deal Wednesday #2
It was a favor for Don kacekwl Wednesday #12
Autopen? What an absolute Fuckhead. johnnyfins Wednesday #3
Not buying Trump's weak-assed story. It's oasis Wednesday #4
All presidential pardons are cool Zambero Wednesday #5
Such an unstable liar. Solly Mack Wednesday #6
can you say bribe oldinmtdem92 Wednesday #7
Jake Tapper, thats fucking dementia Johonny Wednesday #8
So, why did you pardon him? Kid Berwyn Wednesday #9
The Donvict was hoping to boost a right-wing presidential candidate in the Honduras election. Eugene Wednesday #11
Project 2025 for the Brave New World Order Thing Kid Berwyn Wednesday #14
"Well, I don't know him. And I know very little about him other than people said it was like, uh, an Obama/Biden type" Ray Bruns Wednesday #10
A reminder about this guy's background and crimes: Wiz Imp Wednesday #13
How much does he take in from a pardon KT2000 Wednesday #15
Trump claims Demdummy Wednesday #16
Another hour, another lie. Safe as Milk Wednesday #17

Renew Deal

(84,621 posts)
2. So he is clueless and easily manipulated by those around him
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 08:04 AM
Wednesday

We knew that but this is the best recent example

kacekwl

(8,843 posts)
12. It was a favor for Don
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:27 PM
Wednesday

jr. He now gets his unlimited supply of drugs delivered to him.

Zambero

(9,913 posts)
5. All presidential pardons are cool
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 08:19 AM
Wednesday

as long an autopen s not used. Because that way, there is extra scrutiny and the very worst of the bad guys won't be slipping through undetected!

On a slightly different topic, has the lie count hit 50,000 yet???

oldinmtdem92

(100 posts)
7. can you say bribe
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 09:38 AM
Wednesday

after this guy shipped thousands of tons of coke to the us , he probably has a stash of cash.just waiting for a greedy mutherfucker.

Eugene

(66,702 posts)
11. The Donvict was hoping to boost a right-wing presidential candidate in the Honduras election.
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 11:05 AM
Wednesday

He saw pardoning the ex-president from the same party as productive, banking on nostalgia for the Hernandez presidency.

First he claimed to have researched researched Hernandez's case and found that Hernández was a "victim" of an Obama-Biden "setup." Now that the pardon scheme is unravelling, Dump doesn't know the guy.

Kid Berwyn

(22,609 posts)
14. Project 2025 for the Brave New World Order Thing
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:36 PM
Wednesday

Thank you for the heads-up and details, Eugene. Very much appreciate the info on the global reich. A bit more for those new to the subject:

Project 2025 Leader Working to Implement Policies of Putin Ally: Professor

by Flynn Nicholls
Newsweek, July 2024

Kevin Roberts, the president of the Heritage Foundation, is working to implement the policies of Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán to institutionalize Trumpism, an analyst and professor wrote on Thursday.

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Heather Cox Richardson, a history professor at Boston College, joined the growing chorus of analysts criticizing Roberts' comments and policy proposals as being authoritarian. In Letters From an American, her Substack blog, she discussed Roberts' close affiliation with the regime of Orbán, Hungary's strongman leader and Russian President Vladimir Putin's closest ally in NATO and the European Union.

Snip…

Orbán is a hard-line anti-immigration Euroskeptic who regularly expresses sympathy for Russia. Like Donald Trump's campaign, Orbán has described George Soros, a Hungarian-born Jewish billionaire, as a puppet master controlling the global political left. In 2022, Orbán's party won a decisive fourth consecutive term, running on a platform that Hungary, the EU and NATO should not be involved in the Russia-Ukraine war.

Snip…

The Heritage Foundation has long admired Orbán. In a 2022 interview with Hungarian Conservative, Roberts said, "Modern Hungary is not just a model for conservative statecraft, but the model." In 2023, Roberts brought the Heritage Foundation into formal partnership with the Danube Institute, a conservative think tank funded by Orbán's government.

Continues…

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/news/content/ar-BB1ptiAS

PS: Steve Bannon doesn't have enough billionaire pals to pay for the indulgence he'll need to avoid where he's destined.

Ray Bruns

(5,894 posts)
10. "Well, I don't know him. And I know very little about him other than people said it was like, uh, an Obama/Biden type"
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 10:53 AM
Wednesday

I’m impressed. He was able to blame Biden and Obama in one sentence. Kudos!

Wiz Imp

(8,541 posts)
13. A reminder about this guy's background and crimes:
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 12:32 PM
Wednesday

From Wikipedia:

Hernández was identified as a co-conspirator in a drug trafficking and money laundering case against his brother, according to document filed in U.S. district court. Prosecutors alleged $1.5 million in drug proceeds were used to help elect him in 2013.

A document released by a U.S. district court implicated Hernández in a conspiracy with his brother, Tony Hernández, and other high-level officials — including his presidential predecessor Porfirio Lobo Sosa — "to leverage drug trafficking to maintain and enhance their political power." Tony Hernández was sentenced to life in prison in January 2021 following his conviction on numerous drug trafficking charges.

On 7 February 2022, it was announced that Juan Orlando Hernández's U.S. visa was revoked by the Department of State at the start of July 2021, due to involvement in corruption and narcotics. On 14 February, he was surrounded by the National Police and DEA agents at his residence to process his capture and eventually take him to custody of the United States for possible trial. The U.S. government also requested his extradition for involvement with narcotics. After an extradition warrant was issued, Hernández decided to surrender to US authorities on 15 February 2022. The same day, local authorities arrested Hernández at his home in Tegucigalpa.

On 21 April Hernández was extradited to the United States. The United States District Court for the Southern District of New York unsealed their indictment, charging him with conspiracy to import cocaine to the United States (21 U.S.C. § 963), as well as firearms charges (under 18 U.S.C. § 924).

The United States specifically charged Hernández with accepting millions of dollars in bribes from narcotraffickers since 2004, and in particular the Sinaloa Cartel, led by Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán. The indictment stated that Tony Hernández collected the bribes using men armed with machine guns; in exchange, Juan Orlando Hernández conspired to protect smugglers from investigation and arrest, specifically providing "access to law enforcement and military information, including data from flight radar in Honduras".

Hernández's trial began on 21 February 2024 in New York City and concluded with a guilty verdict on 8 March. On 26 June, he was sentenced to 45 years in prison.

In November 2025, days before the Honduran general election, President Donald Trump announced that he would grant Hernández a federal pardon and endorsed Nasry Asfura, the candidate from his party. On 1 December 2025, Hernández was released from the United States Penitentiary, Hazelton, located in Hazelton, West Virginia, after receiving a pardon from Trump for his drug conviction. Trump claimed that the investigation into Hernández was a "Biden administration set up”, and that "They basically said he was a drug dealer because he was the president of the country". Hernández's release came as Honduras was locked in a "technical tie" for the election of a new president. On the afternoon of 1 December, there were just 515 votes separating Asfura from his nearest challenger, Salvador Nasralla, a former TV host standing as a centrist candidate. However, on 2 December 2025, Nasralla, who also previously challenged Hernández in the 2017 Honduras presidential election, took the lead over Asfura, with Trump alleging election fraud.

On 8 December, the Honduran government issued an international arrest warrant for Hernández.

KT2000

(21,888 posts)
15. How much does he take in from a pardon
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 01:45 PM
Wednesday

Does it depend on the person's assets or is it a flat fee. How is the money routed into trump's accounts? Is it paid by those advocating for someone else or the actual prisoner.

There have been 1,600 so far.

Demdummy

(14 posts)
16. Trump claims
Wed Dec 10, 2025, 05:07 PM
Wednesday

Trump claims each little boat he destroys in the Caribbean saves 25,000 Americans from drug overdoses. By Trumps math the 400 tons of drugs that Hernández is responsible for took 10 million American lives! But Hernández was treated unfairly!

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