Democrats, Think Long & Hard About This Thread. I Have.

[gab13by13]

If we have a 2028 election, I truly believe, Democrats need to run a non-politician for president, someone who doesn't know shit about Washington is fine and dandy with me.

Presidents Obama and Biden were super presidents who failed to hold Republicans accountable for their crimes.

We need to send a message to Americans, all Americans, those who vote or who don't vote, that our new president will restore justice for all, billionaires and undocumented workers will be treated equally.

I have list of candidates I would like to see run as Democrats, I don't even know if they are Democrats?

Miles Taylor
Sally Yeates
Letitia James
Malcolm Nance

Any former Military officer, former FBI, Former intelligence agent, former prosecutor, former judge, anyone who was terminated by, attacked by, forced to resign by Krasnov,, I am eager to donate and vote for.

Our system is broken, it will take extraordinary measures to fix it.

[cbabe]

1. A new Eisenhower... ? He didn't want the job but was convinced into it. As I recall.

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[tritsofme]

3. He also just happened to be the most beloved and respected figure in the entire country.

[tinrobot]

20. He also was well known and successfully commanded a huge government operation.

That high profile and experience helped a lot.

None of the candidates listed by the OP have that level of experience or notoriety.

[Arazi]

2. If we're going off the rez, I nominate Stephen Colbert

I still firmly believe the 2028 candidate has to be a white guy.

I’m unwilling to throw another one of our best and brightest women into the volcano

[gab13by13]

10. I think that AOC could win.

[leftstreet]

12. You said no politicians

[Arazi]

13. Agreed. But in 2028 though we must win. She's definitely a future candidate

[Fiendish Thingy]

25. No woman can win, or will be nominated in 2028. Nt

[CrispyQ]

35. "I'm unwilling to throw another one of our best and brightest women into the volcano."

Wow. That really hit.

A perfect analogy.

[JBTaurus83]

4. I always felt

That Wesley Clark was a missed opportunity. Although he is now a politician, Senator Kelly also has the background of a winner, in my opinion. Same goes for Senator Duckworth.

[Cosmocat]

6. I was a big fan

BHO worked out well, though.

It wasn't his fault this country is flat stupid as it is.

[mopinko]

15. not tammy's biggest fan.

confession- i still have a bit of a grudge over her 1st race. she beat a progressive candidate who wd have won, then lost the general.
she speaks up from time to time, but by and large, she’s still more of a follower than a leader. it’s a problem i have w most of the formerly military candidates. unless they were high ranking, they follow.

[tblue37]

18. I really thought Clark.should be president someday, but Obama & Biden were great presidents.

[tritsofme]

5. No thanks. It's not time for amateur hour.

[stopdiggin]

8. Ditto. The idea that movie stars, pro wrestlers, sports heros, and 'Average Joe'

were really what we needed to get 'back on track' - is really one of the shittier notions born of populism. Once and a while you get lucky - but most of the time it it's a con job, the man behind the curtain, and lots of people in way over their heads.

(oh, and remiss of me not to add in, 'businessman, and TV presenter )

[gab13by13]

9. Why then are the youngest Congressional Democrats leading the way?

An amateur president can surround himself with "professionals."

[Arazi]

14. Future Dem president is going to need a massive team of experts to work on our broken govt

The president isn’t going to be able to fix any of that shit - they won’t have the necessary expertise to tackle HHS, DOJ, the military, Treasury, Dept of State etc.

By necessity EVERYTHING is going to have to be delegated to teams of experienced professionals.

Future Dem president will need to be the country’s frontman on the order of Zelensky in order to rebuild any semblance of a relationship internationally. We’re going to need a trustworthy person who’s massively talented at cultivating trust.

That’s probably not a politician

[WhiskeyGrinder]

7. what makes you think these people would "restore justice for all"? And what does that look like?

[leftstreet]

11. Yeah, I don't get it n/t

[gab13by13]

16. It would look like America, not Hungary or Russia.

Bringing back transparency to our government, allowing the press corps back in the Pentagon. Stop the abuses of Presidential pardons.

Give the purse strings back to Congress. Add 4 justices to the Supreme Court.

Have a government that works for the people and not a government that enriches the president and his cronies.

Have some serious campaign finance reform, limit campaigns to 4 or 5 months.

Crack down on lobbyists and insider trading.

Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, look how far we have fallen, Jimmy Carter had to put his peanut farm in a trust.

Crack down on cyber-currency.

[tinrobot]

17. None of those are remotely electable.

I might be open to an outsider, but you gotta pick one who could actually get elected nationally.

[gab13by13]

26. This isn't the, "we must run a moderate" argument, is it?

You must remember, 2028 is a long way away, Krasnov is going to make things a lot worse for unwashed Americans, tens of thousands are going to die because of gutting Medicaid, Obamacare subsidies, Medicare, the VA.

I absolutely believe that those are the best people to run, it's time to think outside the box.

[tinrobot]

39. Moderates? Miles Taylor was a Republican

He served under both Bush and Trump.

You don't get to throw up the "moderate" objection when you're suggesting former Republicans.

[lame54]

19. We Need A RoboCandidate

[MineralMan]

21. With all due respect, I don't think you are qualified to pick candidates for anything..

I don't believe you have any idea who might be able to win.

[gab13by13]

29. You are 100% correct

I am no Cornell Belcher, that's why this is a debate forum and I respect all opinions.

[Torchlight]

22. I can dig it

However, as short-sighted as it may be, I'll most likely vote for the Democratic candidate who best aligns with my own concerns, priorities and positions. From my chair, everything else is noise and pageantry.

[gab13by13]

30. As you should, and so will I.

[highplainsdem]

23. IMO none of them would have a chance. Newsom/Beshear would.

[CincyDem]

28. I'm a Bershear/Kelly fan in either order.

[gab13by13]

31. Thank you for your input

[Fiendish Thingy]

24. No thank you.

I am in favor of a candidate with proven progressive leadership and legislative skills, not somebody whose name has been in the news because Trump fired them, or who is known primarily as a clickbait merchant.

Dems need a fearless, non-geriatric progressive who knows how to govern.

None of the names on your list fit the bill, and none of the characteristics you mentioned are either essential or acceptable for a candidate who can win as well as govern.

[gab13by13]

32. I respect your opinion,

wait for a couple of years to revisit it.

Krasnov has zero idea how to govern but he certainly accomplished more evil in one year than anyone else in our history. Krasnov is just the front man for the destruction of our democracy.

Someone like Malcolm Nance could do the reverse of what Krasnov did.

You have to admit that Magats are better at messaging than Democrats and the people who I merely suggested would definitely have no problem with messaging.

[Scrivener7]

27. Oh, man, would I love to vote for Malcolm Nance. But I don't think it's likely we will do this.

And I do think we have a bench of possible candidates who could run away with it in the current climate.

[gab13by13]

34. My thread is way out there, and it's out there for a reason,

the dismantling of our democracy is widespread and serious and it is going to take extraordinary means to reverse the damage done.

I am only opining that it may take someone who is fearless and knows how to fight back against the evil that has befallen us.

I like Newsom, I like his memes and pushback against Krasnov, but it will take more once the full-fledged death threats hit him. I also like Pritzker.

It is going to be an uphill battle to take back what the billionaires have stolen from our country.

[calguy]

33. I think we need to run a progressive governor

Newsom and Pritzker would both be excellent candidates. While I love what Newsom has been doing as of late, Pritzker would be my pick, simply because he is from a midwestern state. No offense to California, I loved living there for 35 years, but there’s a “too far liberal” tag placed on it by too many voters in swing states we need to win. It would hurt Newsom’s chances in a general election, a chance I’d be unwilling to take if it were all up to me.

[Bmoboy]

36. My opinion

Folks who have been a part of the system that got us to this point are unlikely to inspire my support.

That rules out your initial categories.

Former military, intelligence, FBI, prosecutors, and judges have been powerful participants in the system and have f⁷ailed to challenge the implicit corruption that has characterized our government for years.

As a previous poster stated, getting fired by Trump is not enough.

My ideal candidate would be more like Eugene Debs, Clarence Darrow or Thomas Paine.

[Alpeduez21]

37. Whom ever it is they need to tell the establishment dems

To lead follow or get out of the way. Ala Divid Hogg (only not get railroaded)

[stopdiggin]

43. David Hogg. Wow. Any optimism I might have had - just took a nosedive.

"Shiny baubles!" "Git yer shiny baubles here .. "

[lees1975]

38. My recommendation would be Arizona Senator Mark Kelly

Yes, he's a politician now, but he's someone who wouldn't let the "play by the rules" establishment get in his way.

He's someone who would be willing to take necessary risks, and be unconventional in order to make sure things got done. There wouldn't be any fear of "looking political," and he wouldn't appoint anyone like Merrick Garland to make excuses, drag feet and not accomplish a damn thing.

He'd make the senate drop that damn filibuster to pack this supreme court and he'd bust heads who didn't go along with it.

[Gore1FL]

40. Respectfully, it's 2025.

We don’t have enough data to speak about 2028.

That said, it is my hope that we elect someone qualified.

[betsuni]

41. Drain the Swamp.

Belief that politicians (both sides) are corrupt (except one's favs who somehow aren't really politicians or part of the establishment or elites even though they may have been in politics for decades and depend on fundraising just like other politicians) -- only the incorruptible outsider is pure of heart and brave enough to conquer the evil establishment status quo and pull swords out of rocks.

[snot]

42. I'll just add this

quotation along the lines of, "so long we we keep voting for what we don't want, we'll keep getting it."

Voting for the lesser evil seemed to me like the best strategy for a long time, and in the short run I believe it is; but in the long run, I believe it's led to a race to the bottom, since each candidate need only seem a tiny bit better and/or a tiny bit more electable than the others in order to end up in the final race.

In the longer run, voting for the primary candidate whose platform and record are actually closest to what we want helps to push the party and the Overton Window in the direction we want.