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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJD Vance calls mass migration 'theft', gets told Usha 'go back to India'
Vice President JD Vance drew yet another sharp criticism online, this time after declaring that mass migration is theft of the American Dream, leaving social media users pointing out that his wife is the daughter of Indian immigrants.
What he said: In an X post over the weekend, Vance wrote, Mass migration is theft of the American Dream. It has always been this way, and every position paper, think tank piece and econometric study suggesting otherwise is paid for by the people getting rich off the old system.
The vice president was responding to a video of a Louisiana construction company owner who claimed business had improved since Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) began operations in the state, saying he has gotten more calls in the last week than Ive gotten in the last three months. Vance also said that a future Trump administration would try to remove as many undocumented migrants as possible.
Instant backlash: The post immediately sparked accusations of hypocrisy given Vances own family background. Ok, send your wife and kids back to India and well believe you mean it. You and the orange turd are married to immigrants and Barron is literally an anchor baby, one commenter challenged. Another noted, That means you have to send Usha, her Indian family, and your biracial kids back to India. Let us know when [you] buy the plane tickets. You must lead by example.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/jd-vance-calls-mass-migration-172919590.html
lapfog_1
(31,561 posts)for some 350 years now.

Diamond_Dog
(39,612 posts)What must his wife and her family think?
Aristus
(71,526 posts)He probably doesn't know his wife, or any woman, really, is capable of thought.
ananda
(34,285 posts)Not really human of course.
Skittles
(169,185 posts)I have as high an opinion of Usha as I do of Melania - I can pretty much imagine their character based on the vile fucking assholes they married.......
lrucks1952
(17 posts)Man!! Truer words have never been spoken!!! I too have a very hard time giving Melania or Usha any breaks on their character also by looking at who they both married. I am not married to an immigrant and if I was ? I would not subject them to the nonsense of the righties!! I had who I thought was a good friend and who some years ago started spouting this MAGA crap!..He is no longer my friend...WHY? because in my view he has major character flaws and I don't want him around me or my family.( and told him so!) .. Its that simple.
Skittles
(169,185 posts)it is CHARACTER-DEFINING
am I saying all people who married assholes are disgusting - absolutely not - people in love can overlook what may be quite obvious to others - but to then put to keep putting up with that bullshit, especially when you have the means to leave - well then that starts to define YOU and it ain't pretty
Escurumbele
(4,001 posts)One of the resounding qualities that republicans have is "THEY LACK A SENSE OF CONSEQUENCES", they cannot think before they act, and thus, before they open their big mouths, they are really stupid, its amazing!
Some of them are very eloquent, Vance is one of them, but I think that when they talk they are just enjoying listening to themselves, so they miss the stupidity and vitriol they spew every day.
lrucks1952
(17 posts)Yes! I agree, the republicans have no "sense of consequences" but as a hard core Democrat? I am sick and tired of us just moving on..Every time we get the white house? we just move on from the previous Republican disaster as we look forward!!..I love Obama but he just moved on from Bush and allowed the Bush criminal to go unchecked!!Biden allowed Merrick Garland to waste precious time and let Trump off the hook and the terrible deeds he did while in office...He could not see or understand that the whole political quorum had changed as he was trying to be cordial with a madman! Yes! I in part do blame Biden and I loved Joe, but he did not understand just how serious this deep state MAGA stuff was..Joe gave Garland too much rope, he also allowed BIBI to work him over while openly supporting TRUMP while TRUMP kept his mouth flapping. Joe paid for it politically!
Joe could have stopped a lot of this MAGA nonsense but it was not in him to do so..He was too NICE!! Joe had the power and should have released the Epstein files as a start and we would be in a very different place. It would have shut down MAGA and TRUMP!!
anti-repub
(21 posts)I could not agree with you more.
MissouriDem47
(388 posts)It means she doesn't think.
Shipwack
(2,969 posts)IronLionZion
(50,709 posts)as a MAGA-suitable blonde Christian replacement. They look like they're heading for divorce, as God intended.
dalton99a
(91,775 posts)AZJonnie
(2,653 posts)At it's most fundamental level his argument amounts to "the more people there are in the USA, the worse it makes it for everyone else".
Which then means that every child born is likewise stealing the American Dream.
By the way, there's absolutely (added on edit: nothing) noble about purposefully triggering the nativist/tribalist impulses that evolution conferred upon our species. It takes no skill, just a nefarious willingness to exploit it for personal gain and unearned power.
I would add that a significant component of Christ's message, as laid out in The Bible, is clearly the opposite of Vance's here. Jesus' message, rather, was that "good" actions were those that were inherently contrary to obeying our most base, animal-like instincts.
JD obviously never got the memo
SouthBayDem
(33,091 posts)Last edited Fri Dec 12, 2025, 10:46 PM - Edit history (1)
Weve seen how in practice, white folks arent lining up for those menial farm jobs that were supposedly taken from them. And then for higher skilled H1B tech jobs, where are the Americans qualified for them? (Companies do deserve some criticism for expecting high output at minimum price.)
(EDIT: phone keyboard stupidly suggested stupidly when I wanted to write supposedly)
AZJonnie
(2,653 posts)Great points!
canetoad
(20,053 posts)Sound bite. JD is not a person of verbal skills or vivid imagination.
PghTiny
(297 posts)Or maybe a love seat
Jack Valentino
(4,239 posts)I'd willingly let him use one of mine in exchange for shutting the fuck up
My tastes are different....
Norrrm
(3,833 posts)JD Vance faces backlash for referring to his children as 'his wife's kids' in new interview
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jd-vance-wife-kids-comment_n_67129574e4b0e2b6e54bfb5a
In a recent NY Times interview, Vance was asked if his wife, Usha, had converted to Catholicism from her Hindu faith. He explained that she had not, but their family still attends church together. "No, she hasn't [converted]. That's why I feel bad about it. She's got three kids. Obviously, I help with the kids, but because I'm kind of the one going to church, she feels more responsibility to keep the kids quiet in the church."
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https://www.mediaite.com/politics/doge-staffer-out-after-social-media-posts-unearthed-normalize-indian-hate/
DOGE Staffer Out After Social Media Posts Unearthed: Normalize Indian Hate from India
Vance supports him.
JD Vance and Elon BEND THE KNEE Immediately
Irish_Dem
(79,266 posts)So immigrants on both sides of his family line.
Two of his three wives were immigrants.
Four of his kids are the offspring of immigrants.
What a damn hypocrite.
twodogsbarking
(17,440 posts)IronLionZion
(50,709 posts)or Germany
BurnDoubt
(1,362 posts)Seinan Sensei
(1,318 posts)maxsolomon
(38,108 posts)They're the real problem.
viva la
(4,463 posts)that fueled the huge industrial buildup that transformed the US into a global power.
Both were only sort-of legal. And they definitely did not "steal the American dream."
Trumpers are almost invariably proclaiming the opposite of what the rest of us think of as democracy and American values.
BurnDoubt
(1,362 posts)Why???
And, is he here legally?
And YES! They should all live under the same law. We clearly have a huge problem when a caste system rules our Judiciary. Cash is King, and Hate is a Virtue. SOME Aliens are more Equal than others depending on
WHAT? Despite the OBVIOUS EVIDENCE, none of these people living in the MAGA Bubble has been rousted from their sleep and TRAFFICKED to a prison in an undisclosed country without Due Process or ANY hope of ever being Free again.
While I wish no one to be thus treated, I DO expect that the Law be APPLIED THE WAY IT WAS PROMISED: WITHOUT FEAR OR FAVOR.
Societal collapse is an optional Future and were well on our way. No One will like it!!!!! All weve raped and stolen, all to end up eating our own.
This is a made-up catastrophy, and someone needs to be accountable.
IF there is a God, how miserably he must feel the worst disappointment over the conduct of his little experiment and the deeds done in His name.
Poo Tee Weet.
Clouds Passing
(6,819 posts)Aussie105
(7,525 posts)'Immigrants are stealing the American dream' = if you are not white, you a leeching of us white people.
That threatened 'American dream' = entitlement of white Americans. All for us, none for you, depending on your skin color.
Simplistic racism at its worst.
But unless you are 100% genetically descended from indigenous tribes, you or some of your ancestors were immigrants too.
Then again, they were immigrants too, if you go back far enough.
Australia does this too.
The government even had an immigration policy decades ago, the 'White Australian policy'.
Not welcomed as an immigrant if you didn't have skills or had the 'wrong' skin color.
SergeStorms
(19,902 posts)"Vance also said that a future Trump administration would try to remove as many undocumented migrants as possible"
Unless he's talking about the coke-head, gums, or gums' wife, he just stepped on The Big Orange Pig's "dictator for life" plans.
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C Moon
(13,417 posts)Bread and Circuses
(1,491 posts)uponit7771
(93,463 posts)NickB79
(20,218 posts)Even the ones they marry, apparently.
uponit7771
(93,463 posts)usonian
(23,220 posts)
Jacson6
(1,728 posts)After all they are NOT american.
Joinfortmill
(19,878 posts)Martin68
(26,923 posts)Bengus81
(9,732 posts)we need to get back to normalizing Indian hate. Vance fucking stood UP for the asshat puke making that statement about his wife and kids.
So she's putting up with the hate filled racist statements like that for the money, the endless vacations etc? She's as bad as him...........
wolfie001
(6,924 posts)Justice matters.
(9,266 posts)wolfie001
(6,924 posts)In Neaderthal voice.
patphil
(8,655 posts)They came here to escape religious, racial, ethnic, and socioeconomic persecution from all over Europe. Countless additional waves of mass migration continued to come here from every continent, and country over the entire time from when the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock to the present.
It still happens with groups like Afghani's, Somalians, Ukrainians, Chinese, Haitians...so many countries and ethnic groups add their unique contribution to the long list of those who came before them. It's a revitalization of the nation each time a new group comes in and goes through the process of integrating into the American culture.
Just Dumb Vance is angry because there aren't enough white folks coming in. And yes, he is a major abuser of the very thing he claims is so horrible.
He is deliberately blind to the amazing contribution each group makes, and to the new expansiveness they provide to the American Dream.
Vance wants to make the American Dream over into a nightmare for everyone except him and his White Supremacist pals.
BlueSpot
(1,242 posts)I wonder what he thinks it came from.
Justice matters.
(9,266 posts)jfz9580m
(16,504 posts)That would be more fun:
https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/candace-owens-and-the-decay-of-the-american-brain
This is a ratings driven admin and in the midst of our collective misery, I feel a JD Vance and Candace Owens coupling would cheer us all up. She is popular with both white supremacists and crazies, the two demographics Vance needs. I mean it doesnt help him that Nick Fuentes called him a fatass with a biracial wife. Like Fox News, I report you decide.
Yeah Erika Kirk seems like a better fit, but this would be funnier. We are all weary and if these creeps are destroying everything they at least owe us what dreary chuckles can be mined from that.
Martin Eden
(15,301 posts)As did so many millions who passed through Ellis Island. Were they all THIEVES?
What, exactly, IS the American Dream supposedly being stolen and thereby destroyed by the current wave of immigrants?
Working hard to build a better life for your family? The vast majorty of current immigrants check that box.
Embracing American freedoms, civil rights, and Constitutional rule of law? So many undertook a perilous journey to come here for those American values rejected by the cruel dictators in their native countries.
The allure of America, and what makes it truly great, is the IDEA that all people are equal under the law with inalienable human rights regardless of race or religion and that government is OF, BY, and FOR The People.
Coming here to LIVE the American Dream is not THEFT of the American Dream. On the contrary, people who LIVE and EMBRACE our highest ideals STRENGTHEN America.
Immigrants today are being persecuted not because they reject or damage what truly makes America great; they are being brutally torn from their communities and families because of their skin color and ethnicity. This includes those who have been following the path to legal status and citizenship.
Racial, tribal, and religious animosity are as old as human civilization. America has long struggled to cast off this old world ignorance and hatred. With progress and occasional setbacks, we have steadily bent the long arc of our moral universe towards justice.
The cruel wanna-be dictator and his hateful cabal are making every effort to bend it back. It is THEY, not immigrants, who are rejecting America's highest ideals and assaulting our Constitutional rule of law which is the foundation of the American Dream.
The struggle goes on. We not only must BELIEVE that We Shall Overcome; we must take an active role to MAKE IT HAPPEN.
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Escape
(365 posts)can be SO WRONG on every issue.
I was at the Albuquerque BioPark Aquarium last week and read the info sheet on the jellyfish tank. It said that they have no vertebrae, no heart and no brain.
So, yeah, I guess they are Republicans.
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SleeplessinSoCal
(10,366 posts)Found this about "The American Dream".
Evolution Over Time: Initially focused on democracy and equality, the meaning has shifted to include material wealth and social mobility.
ZDU
(1,050 posts)flamingdem
(40,776 posts)I am not hearing that much push back. Dems know this is a popular issue with Republicans and some Independents.
They have to thread the needle.
orleans
(36,626 posts)short, simple, and gets the point across
flamingdem
(40,776 posts)It appeals to several groups that we need as voters. For example Latino citizens who feel threatened, logically or not, by large numbers of immigrants for instance. Lost in 2024. Etc.
I think dems need to really work on messaging here.
There's not denying that there's constituency in favor of less immigration. Not all are maga.
Callie1979
(1,081 posts)Vance thinks he's heir apparent to the next "MAGA" candidacy & I'll state it right now; he's NOT. He's dull, looks like a doofus & simply has no crowd control like Trump does. Yes, Trump is a staggering moron but he was also a CELEBRITY.
Steve Forbes was a billionaire & couldn't win because he wasnt famous.
Without the Apprentice etc, Trump would've had the same fate.
And Vance wont get the rabid racist voter because of his wife.