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This is the rePUKE liar the fat orange imbecile is trying to break out of jail in Colorado (Original Post) wolfie001 Dec 2025 OP
I hope she is carried out in a box Bluestocking Dec 2025 #1
Who the heck smiles for such except a psychopath? littlemissmartypants Dec 2025 #2
She made the mistake of committing a crime in a state with a Dem governor. Sneederbunk Dec 2025 #3
MaddowBlog-Trump's pardon for Colorado's Tina Peters suffers from one fatal flaw LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2025 #4
Yep!!! nt wolfie001 Dec 2025 #5

littlemissmartypants

(33,647 posts)
2. Who the heck smiles for such except a psychopath?
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 07:29 PM
Dec 2025

Characteristics of Psychopaths

1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior

Sneederbunk

(17,496 posts)
3. She made the mistake of committing a crime in a state with a Dem governor.
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 07:44 PM
Dec 2025

Didn't think it through.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,871 posts)
4. MaddowBlog-Trump's pardon for Colorado's Tina Peters suffers from one fatal flaw
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 07:55 PM
Dec 2025

Presidents can’t pardon individuals convicted of state crimes. Whether Trump understands that isn’t entirely clear.

Trump’s pardon for Colorado’s Tina Peters suffers from one fatal flaw: she was convicted under state law. Trump can't pardon state crimes.

How stupid is Donny Trump? www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...

Cheeky Tart (@svenable.bsky.social) 2025-12-12T16:32:51.170Z


https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-pardon-tina-peters-colorado

Over the course of the past year, Donald Trump has gone to extraordinary lengths to help Tina Peters, a former Colorado county clerk who’s currently in prison for election crimes. The one step the president had not taken was to issue a pardon, since that wouldn’t make any sense.

Late Thursday, he did it anyway. The Associated Press reported:

President Donald Trump issued a symbolic pardon for Tina Peters on Thursday, but it alone won’t free the former Colorado elections administrator who was convicted under state laws of orchestrating a data breach scheme driven by false claims of fraud in the 2020 presidential election.


.....In August, Trump threatened Colorado with “harsh measures” unless the state agreed to release Peters, who he claimed had been “tortured by Crooked Colorado politicians.” More recently, Trump’s Federal Bureau of Prisons contacted the Colorado Department of Corrections, seeking to transfer Peters from a state prison to federal custody, but that didn’t work, either.

Left with no other options, the president announced a pardon for Peters.

Except that won’t work, either. Peters faced state prosecution over state crimes. She was tried and convicted in state court. She was sentenced by a state judge and sent to a state prison.

A federal pardon might make Trump feel better, but it’s also utterly irrelevant. As Colorado Attorney General Philip Weiser explained in a written statement, “One of the most basic principles of our constitution is that states have independent sovereignty and manage our own criminal justice systems without interference from the federal government. The idea that a president could pardon someone tried and convicted in state court has no precedent in American law, would be an outrageous departure from what our constitution requires, and will not hold up.”

The question, however, is whether Trump knows this.

It’s possible that the president, desperate to assist an ally he’s powerless to help, issued the pardon as a symbolic gesture, grudgingly aware of the fact that it will change nothing. What’s unclear, however, is whether Trump intended this to have some force of law as Peters’ attorney continues to work to get his client out of prison. Watch this space.
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