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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAs someone who suffers from a medical condition called "MICROPENIS"
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i have to say that throwing around barbs involving penis size and equating them to shortcomings, etc. is incredibly sexist and bigoted.
just because i have a medical condition that affects the size of my penis (think thumbnub), in no way means that men and men like me aren't whole, valid people.
we just have INCREDIBLY small weiners.
so deep six the penis talk.
'k?
Panasonic
(2,921 posts)Sorry.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Where's the "yoiks" smiley?
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)Wouldn't it be hereditary?
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)Response to SecularMotion (Reply #20)
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SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)1. a penis concealed in suprapubic fat (extra fat around the mons pubis).
2. a large body and frame for which a prepubertal penis simply appears too small.
3. delayed puberty with every reason to expect good future growth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropenis
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)but no it's not hereditary.
Whoa_Nelly
(21,237 posts)But, would have to say that the OP could have been worded without the TMI factor.
...just sayin'...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropenis#Causes
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)each person's journey is as different and unique as each person.
one person's TMI is another person's NJEIBETMRP.
dmr
(28,705 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)What is the medical condition?
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)Micropenis...Google it...
randome
(34,845 posts)leftstreet
(39,646 posts)Indykatie
(3,868 posts)Which leads me to believe the OP is either too sensitive about his situation or simply whining without basis for his complaint.
leftstreet
(39,646 posts)datasuspect
(26,591 posts)people think it's cute when they imply SUV and machine gun purchasers do so only to compensate for their penis size.
i have micropenis and have never bought a Hummer or a machine gun.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)It's not the small penis that many people have a problem with, it's the need to compensate for it. I think you can be safely assured that you're not being referenced when these barbs are made.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)...people, but DU's community standards clearly don't support its use as an epithet.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)compensating for a small penis. Frankly, I think the gun nuts need to stop acting like they're beyond criticism, I think they SHOULD be mocked for their views and I think if it takes embarrassing them and shaming them into not taking such a harmful position, then that's fine by me.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)...to compensate for having small brains.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)that people with self-perceived inadequacies quite often purchase things or fantasize about power to compensate for them. One could hardly deny that weapons (much like massive SUVs) are symbols of power. So it would seem that it's the people who deny this occurs are the ones suffering from small brains.
progressoid
(52,854 posts)You think it's OK to use one person's physicality as a point of derision to "mock, embarrass and shame" someone else?
EOTE
(13,409 posts)with guns and other harmful items. I don't care whether that inadequacy be mental, physical, penile...
progressoid
(52,854 posts)Thanks for clearing that up.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)But other than that, I stand by what I say.
well said! I also get upset about people using "fat" as a derisive term and have called them out on it a few times, only to be mocked or ignored. These comments hurt, and I am glad the OP is speaking out. Thank you.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)Unless he states the sizes, shows a picture, or you are intimately aware of his size?
The answer is you don't. You, and others who make the small penis references are just making a slimy attack on men because you don't like what they buy with their money.
If men started saying the same type of vile shit about women and the sizes of the breasts, or their sexual capability, or accuse women of being inadequate because they chose some sort of plastic surgery, then the outrage would be all over Meta, and there would be calls for PPR'ing anyone who made those comments.
Just shows there is a double standard here. Shit can be said about men all the time, and those spreading the shit don't get PPR'd.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)And you're damned right I don't like what they buy with their money, they've turned this country into both a war zone and a police state. Every damned first word country in the world has far less gun violence that we do and it's because of this sickening gun culture that's being perpetuated in this country. So talking about them compensating for one thing or another is about as mild an insult as I could possibly do, they deserve far, far worse.
And I'm really perplexed as to your talk of a double standard. There are plenty of women who use guns as compensation as well. And you are aware that I'm a man, right?
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)It makes no difference, since it's obvious some men with your mindset hate other men for the choices they make. Male or Female, the hate is still there for men. "They deserve far, far worse." Wow.
And if you really are a man, why don't you post it in your profile?
So I thought you were accusing men of compensating about their penis sizes by buying guns. What does that have to do with women? What are you accusing the woman of compensating for? Are these women evil too?
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Not everyone needs an SUV or guns as a substitute for proper genitalia. Only some people do. It's not reason to get disturbed about it, everyone is different. As soon as we accept each other's differences, and be able to talk and laugh about them, the better off we all will be.
diphthong
(21 posts)about little winky.....
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)leftstreet
(39,646 posts)But thank you for explaining the OP. It was pretty vague
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Penis Scientist Rush Limbaugh Blames Small Penis Size on Feminazis
According to penis scientist Rush Limbaugh (his source: CBS Philadelphia, which cites this unsourced item in a ChaCha.com slideshow), the average penis size is 10 percent smaller than it was in 1950. The "Italian scientists" blame air pollution, but Rush has an alternate theory: "I don't buy this. I think it's feminism... Has to be the feminazis. I mean, the chickification, everything else." The joke you are thinking about making, about Rush Limbaugh's penis size: literally everyone in the world is thinking of making that joke. It's not a good joke. Don't make it. Just let the beauty of "has to be the feminazis" hang in the air.
Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)RetroLounge
(37,250 posts)"This is for fighting, this is for fun"
or some such macho military bullshit.
RL
farminator3000
(2,117 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Men are the "dominant group" to some, it matters not if they are well endowed or not, or poor, or ill.
It's actually sad, it weakens us.
It took forever for DU to get a mens' issues group.
FWIW, I agree.
I used to use the penis reference around the topic of big SUVs but finally realized it made me look petty and small.
We are better than that, or we should be.
K/R
trumad
(41,692 posts)A group where you can vote on hot hottest female celebrity.
I'm so glad these boys have a place to play.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Just sayin'
trumad
(41,692 posts)Although I'm certain PB hit the button a second after I posted.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)EOTE
(13,409 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)One post out of tens of thousands of posts requests that posters refrain from discussing penises, and there is a belief that this will somehow satisfy your wish ?
Yep .... Everybody will stop .. They always do, because the first thing everybody does every day in DU is listen to someone telling them how to act ....
Works every time !
Bigmack
(8,020 posts)... I seldom refer to peni.. or testicles, for that matter, as actual body parts.
If someone has "balls" it has nothing to do with actual testicles. Example: Elizabeth Warren anything but masculine, but she's got balls....serious balls.
Same with penises. Actual penis size has nothing to do with masculinity or toughness or anything else, but penis references are a handy (forgive me) tool useful in measuring boldness. The term "swinging dick" could apply to datasuspect or anybody else. Calling someone a big swinging dick is a term of respect.
I hope Elizabeth Warren turns out to be a swinging dick.
marble falls
(71,404 posts)DapperDon
(49 posts)eShirl
(20,148 posts)Some people can't help themselves and have to giggle &point when something makes them uncomfortable.
People's reactions speak volumes, don't they?
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slackmaster
(60,567 posts)People with disabilities should not be made the butt of sick jokes.
leftstreet
(39,646 posts)Does the thing not work properly or something?
FFS!
You don't hear women with small breasts claiming MICROBOOBS! Disability!!! You're oppressing me!!!!111
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Things like that.
You don't hear women with small breasts claiming MICROBOOBS!
I can see you're a real empathetic and understanding person.
leftstreet
(39,646 posts)In terms of societal expectations and judgements, yes I'd have much more empathy for the women
Not many know what a guy looks like, whereas women face scrutiny and judgement just by walking into a room
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)focus more on healing than seeking to find where you will always hurt more than someone else.
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BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)All we can do is advise buying some badass assault rifles.
I don't care about anybody's junk.
eShirl
(20,148 posts)Yet, here you are.
bluesbassman
(20,376 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)And it certainly has caught a lot of Bozos.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)It is not the kind of topic that one would expect to find on a political board if it is in fact genuine.
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)that is how big my penis is.
the larger issue has to do with body dysmorphic disorder and learning to accept yourself.
as i said earlier, this a step on my journey of acceptance.
progressoid
(52,854 posts)After liposuction and rhinoplasty.
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)the shit would hit the fan.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)She committed suicide in her early 20s.
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panader0
(25,816 posts)I too have seen innumerable posts about men compensating for small penises by buying fancy cars, big guns or being mean, etc, etc.
Do women go nuts because they have small breasts? There often seems to be an anti-male bias here on DU.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)why do women also buy fast cars, big SUV's, and big guns?
I suspect you could also find males with 'large' genitalia that still purchase such things.
tavernier
(14,392 posts)Not personally or sexually, but through a friend who knew him well and revealed this. I was always curious if this kept him from dating. He was a nice looking guy but I don't remember him ever being in a relationship with anyone of either sex.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... "Me", he replied.
DapperDon
(49 posts)this is real. And it's mostly men who joke about penis size.
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)it's okay to own your body image issues.
getting past denial is often the first step.
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)is no respecter of gender.
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MicaelS
(8,747 posts)Here's the link the datasuspect posted before.
http://www.icd9data.com/2012/Volume1/740-759/752/752.64.htm
And here are some other links explaining the condition:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropenis
http://menshealth.about.com/cs/genetics/a/micro_penis.htm
sweetNsassy
(64 posts)I am disgusted by the responses. The human body takes on all kinds of forms.
w8liftinglady
(23,278 posts)progressoid
(52,854 posts)superpatriotman
(6,825 posts)Thanks so much for admitting your shortcomings.
JAbuchan08
(3,046 posts)but "shortcomings" strikes me as an insensitive way of putting it.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)This OP belongs in the Gungeon.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Gungeon? There's not a single mention of guns in the OP.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Is interesting.
Du'ers are encouraged to talk about all manner of problems and disabilities... but not this... because it takes the fun out of our stereotypes.
We want to be sensitive... but not to everyone.
Rex
(65,616 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)datasuspect
(26,591 posts)my "god's joke of making a penis" is no comparison to a woman who has a healthy, functioning vagina.
this has more to do with acceptance of body dysmorphism than it does to being proud of having or not having any specific type of healthy, functioning genitalia.
patrice
(47,992 posts)ought to consider not buying into their line of rhetoric about that, by "accepting" their judgement of you, but . . .
That IS up to you.
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)like you were making human suffering a competition.
patrice
(47,992 posts)diversity, inspired, in part, by the dialogue created by discussions about LGBTQ Civil Rights, but also by the development of a more authentically humanistic ethos in general, that is, the whole human family in all of its many variations. I'm seeing a lot of content on Face Book directed toward more respect for a biological whole, instead of our artificial and arbitrary extractions/biases toward what "we" deem worthy or not worthy.
Things are what they are and some of us are thinking that pretending that they should be something else, that we define, isn't that good for anyone/everyone.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)I personally don't recall speaking mockingly of penis size, but I'll take this into consideration if I ever do in the future.
This is not something I was aware of and I'm an MD. So, thanks for the info.
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(60,567 posts)Response to slackmaster (Reply #60)
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slackmaster
(60,567 posts)bluesbassman
(20,376 posts)MIRT got him.
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(60,567 posts)Not meant as a penis joke BTW.
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ornotna
(11,438 posts)My apologies.
GoddessOfGuinness
(46,438 posts)Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)have people been talking about you in particular? You specifically? Insulting you? Making fun of you? Who here has been degrading you?
We all have shortfalls and imperfections. Unless we mention these imperfections to others, they generally remain unknown, particularly online, which is so anonymous... unless or until we mention them, as you just did. Then we all find out. I don't get it. Why bring up something personal to everyone, if you are so very sensitive about it? We all have personal things that are less than perfect. Are we going to post them publicly? Not me!!
People talk about everything - short people, skinny people, tall people, fat people, etc. If every time someone opens his/her mouth, people started flipping out and losing it, we'd have a nation of people going nuts in protest.
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)because i will always hold you to your own standards.
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)no one knew a damned thing. Do you expect the rest of DU to go revealing their flaws?
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)i saved what you wrote.
i've been here quite awhile. plan on sticking around.
i made a note of you and what you said.
you made some very bold declarations.
i will hold you to your own standards.
as i said above, i am doing this confront my own demons so they don't have power over me. this is part of healing path.
progressoid
(52,854 posts)Even though we're all invisible on this forum, posts about overweight people are very frowned upon.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Are "fat chick" jokes okay, provided they're not about any obese DU'er specifically?
I have found that what the poster has done is the most effective way to encourage civility.
The R word was in common usage here until some posters with loved ones with developmental disabilities pointed out how hurtful it was. When the community began to understand this, we changed for the better.
The above paragraph represents "benefit of the doubt" or "assume good faith". The OP has stated that his condition makes insults and jokes about small penises personally hurtful. How we react to that knowledge is our choice. We can either dial back the sexist insults, or we can cling to our insulting and hurtful stereotypes.
I think some of the posters upthread complaining about TMI, are doing so to protect their ability to insult people.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Among other 'masculine' canards.
In fact, on DU2, making the gun=penis canard was a post deletion offense. DU3 dropped that rule for some reason, despite many alerts on it.
jollyreaper2112
(1,941 posts)Thing is, every man out there is either insecure about his junk or has been but gotten over it. It's a natural fear, especially as its taken as a sign of virility and manhood. Porn hasn't helped since men are deliberately cast for large sizes.
Most women prefer girth to length but would much rather whatever the penis is attached to not be an asshole.
There are a lot of insecure men out there and they do compensate in counter-productive ways. Not every gun owner is insecure but when they make the gun into more than a tool but a lifestyle, they are obviously compensating for some sort of perceived defect, penis or otherwise. Confident men and women don't get deadly weapons to impress people, only to serve the necessary purpose. Likewise, some men but big trucks for justifiable needs, others because their pride is so fragile being in a compact would kill them. Such is life.
I've seen pics of micropenis and had no prior idea it could be so bad. You do have my sympathies.
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)There has been a consistent use of 'penis compensator' for ANY reference in favor of gun ownership, particularly for drive-by's in the Gungeon forum. Perhaps you have not seen them. Ok. But it is there, since DU2. No consideration of a 'necessary purpose' is allowed, and ALL possession is assumed to be 'to impress people'. I own some of the guns commonly linked to this idea, but I don't 'show them off' to people. They stay in the safe unless I am using them, and they do get USED. Conversely, I only point guns at things I want to destroy. I do not point my penis at anything I want to destroy. Sex isn't about destruction. The association is flawed.
I own a very large, lifted truck. Someone seeing me driving it... well, I was going to say 'might' but I should rephrase 'have on many occasions' made the compensation link accusation. Problem is, my daily driver is a tiny econobox that gets 38mpg, and I am quite proud of it. I use the truck for things that require serious truckage. I don't drive it to work or the drive-through to impress people.
The automatic link to penis size/capability is just another form of prejudice/profiling. And it's about as accurate as profiling can be expected to be. (Not very.)
Little Star
(17,055 posts)Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)Whether true or not, the post is hee-fucking-larious!
d_b
(7,463 posts)and not laugh at this thread.
leftstreet
(39,646 posts)
cecilfirefox
(784 posts)didn't happen.
<_<
RandiFan1290
(6,697 posts)
DapperDon
(49 posts)I already know more than I care to know.
progressoid
(52,854 posts)DapperDon
(49 posts)progressoid
(52,854 posts)Cleft lips.
Tell us some Cleft lip jokes!
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Check the time of this post ~> http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1018&pid=267161
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)low. People throw that out there so off handedly. Yet, it is almost always jarring to me. I don't think it has anything to do with how men act. It might, but I haven't seen the evidence, nor do I want to ha ha. Any way, I am without actually taking measurements going to go out on a limb and say that gun owners and non gun owners have a wide range of penis sizes and they probably average out to be pretty similar.
madokie
(51,076 posts)Ter
(4,281 posts)But just how small is a microshclong?
Javaman
(65,456 posts)eridani
(51,907 posts)Thanks for informing people. Any useful links?
graywarrior
(59,440 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)I would appreciate if people would stop using the phrase "having one's head up their ass".
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)and that's tmi from me already...
sobenji
(323 posts)Taverner
(55,476 posts)Does it cause any hormonal problems?
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Micropenis is an unusually small penis. A common criterion is a dorsal (measured on top) erect penile length of at least 2.5 standard deviations smaller than the mean human penis size,[1] or smaller than about 7cm (3 inches) for an adult when compared to an average erection of 12.5cm (5 inches).[2] The condition is usually recognized shortly after birth. The term is most often used medically when the rest of the penis, scrotum, and perineum are without ambiguity, such as hypospadias. Micropenis occurs in about 0.6% of males.[2]
more at link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropenis
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)justcheckinin
(17 posts)somebody is yanking ya wanker
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)justcheckinin
(17 posts)"needs to be buried 6 inch deep" hey guys, me also thinks many take themselves too seriously
jimlup
(8,009 posts)Some people are incredibly sensitive to women's issues of sexism but don't see the converse.
-..__...
(7,776 posts)there's a Guinness Book of World Records special to be made...
Mr. Big Jonah Falcon was born with a blessing in, er, disguise. Until it took over his life
When Jonah Falcon was in fifth grade, his class was allowed to use the school swimming pool. Like many ten-year-olds, the boy was modest and decided to change into his swimsuit in a bathroom stall. Locker-room noises ricocheted outside as Jonah dropped his pants. Then, silence. At first, he wondered if everyone had run away. He looked up and saw fingers wrapped over the top of his stall. Then more fingers. And eyes. His classmates, as many as could wedge themselves around the perimeter of the stall, had hoisted themselves up to peer at what Jonah had exposed.
Jonah did not know it was unusual for a ten-year-old boy to have an eight-inch penis. He was unaware that his organ was already longer, thicker and heavier than any owned by his classmates' fathers. All he knew was that the silence and the staring boys made him want to burst out of the stall and run away. But Jonah didn't run away or close his eyes. Pinned inside the toilet stall, pants scrunched around his ankles, he saw a new expression in the eyes of the boys. They looked, Jonah thought, to be in the presence of God.
The average adult penis, according to the Kinsey Institute, measures just under six inches when erect. Most men -- about eighty-seven percent -- are between five and seven inches. Dr. Alfred Kinsey found that the largest reported penis was a bit more than nine inches erect.
Jonah Falcon's penis is 9.5 inches flaccid, 13.5 inches erect. Tense your forearm. Now wrap your hand around the middle of the muscle. That is the girth of Falcon's erection. Those who have witnessed it describe it as "grotesque," "gorgeous," "hideous" and "stunning." Falcon, who stands five foot nine, thinks his penis is perfectly formed, with a fifteen-degree downward curvature at the six-inch mark and absent the blotching, lumpiness and sudden bends that mark some oversize sex organs. A penis this size functions, physiologically, like any other, according to urologists, a claim substantiated by Falcon. His balls are proportionately huge, each the size of a grade-A jumbo egg. When erect, Falcon's penis generates enough heat to warm hands -- campfire style -- from a distance of six inches.
http://sizequeensmatters.blogspot.com/2009/10/mr-big-jonah-falcon-was-born-with.html
shireen
(8,340 posts)The OP posted a serious message about his condition and how he finds the "compensating" comments to be offensive. I appreciate him educating us about it.
Why is it so hard for some of you to just accept him without judgment?
Some of the responses in this thread are disrespectful and insensitive. Empathy FAIL.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)If it was instead done as a joke by a troll, that is really sick, taking advantage of the sympathies expressed by most here.
renate
(13,776 posts)The joke about penis size and either cars or guns is such a cliche that you weren't being addressed individually, but I'm sure it would be a very difficult thing to have a medical condition that people made fun of. It must have been really difficult for you to post this, and I wish you lots and lots of luck on your healing journey.
RetroLounge
(37,250 posts)Actually, I believe six is slightly above average...
RL
aikoaiko
(34,213 posts)This is an excellent discussion for the meta forum, but prohibited in GD.

