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H2O Man

(79,057 posts)
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 03:31 PM Dec 2025

Reality

"I realized we were not operating on the same level of reality.” – John Trudell


Like every good and decent person in this country, I am sad to read the news about Rob Reiner and his wife. Like everyone who has had relatives murdered, I am sad for the surviving family members. While thinking about the harsh reality of the situation, my phone rang for the first of a number of calls.

“He's hit the bottom of the barrel,” my cousin said. “Actually, he is digging a hole beneath the bottom of the barrel,” I said.

As fucking gross as the felon's statement is, I consider it to be a good thing. It helps to put into focus what a pathetic excuse for a human being he is. There are three things I keep in mind. First, there is not a single citizen in the country who was “undecided” about the felon who is now convinced they should support him. More importantly, it will offend even some of those who supported him in the past. And third, it helps secure republican politicians in a hot seat, as their options are limited to agreeing with him, disagreeing, or attempting to avoid comment.

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Reality (Original Post) H2O Man Dec 2025 OP
Want to believe that, but half of voters were OK with trump mocking a journalist with cerebral palsy. But, yeah, they Silent Type Dec 2025 #1
Right. H2O Man Dec 2025 #2
They voted for him BECAUSE he's a terrible human being... mirroring themselves. n/t slightlv Dec 2025 #3
Many did. H2O Man Dec 2025 #5
He's running interference for Hate. BurnDoubt Dec 2025 #6
He is hate. H2O Man Dec 2025 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Dec 2025 #4
Beautifully said! H2O Man Dec 2025 #7
Thanks jfz9580m Dec 2025 #8
Thank you! H2O Man Dec 2025 #9
Never heard of "Activist HQ" before KS Toronado Dec 2025 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Dec 2025 #14
Guess again KS Toronado Dec 2025 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Dec 2025 #17
Reality is, this too shall pass Martin Eden Dec 2025 #11
Right! H2O Man Dec 2025 #12
There is no bottom for this monster malaise Dec 2025 #16
He will get worse. H2O Man Dec 2025 #18
He and his goons are losing big time malaise Dec 2025 #19
Right. H2O Man Dec 2025 #20
 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
1. Want to believe that, but half of voters were OK with trump mocking a journalist with cerebral palsy. But, yeah, they
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 03:40 PM
Dec 2025

can't deny trump is a vile, heartless POS. They just didn't care.

H2O Man

(79,057 posts)
2. Right.
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 05:16 PM
Dec 2025

A lot of people voted for him, despite knowing he is a terrible human being. Yet as he declines, mentally and physically, his splatterings of hatred and dismal second term record is taking away support. And those numbers do not need to be huge to make the difference in the upcoming mid-terms.

H2O Man

(79,057 posts)
5. Many did.
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 06:31 PM
Dec 2025

All of the maga cult did. Of them, many believed Q-anon, and the felon's campaign promises to release the Epstein scandal files. One thinks of Marjorie Taylor Greene as an example. It also included republicans that vote for their candidates as a matter of routine, including those who just were not comfortable with a woman president -- because they are convinced females are an inferior species.

But exactly as you note, for the vast majority of those who voted for him, it was because he expressed their hatreds.

BurnDoubt

(1,735 posts)
6. He's running interference for Hate.
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 06:32 PM
Dec 2025

He has emboldened the worst of us to spread their hatred.
Hell will become even more Hellish when he goes there.
He can’t expire soon enough.

H2O Man

(79,057 posts)
10. He is hate.
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 09:18 PM
Dec 2025

Often, as one reaches old age, the essence of their personality becomes so concentrated it becomes their entire being. Thus his goal is to make the United States both hate and hated.

Response to H2O Man (Original post)

H2O Man

(79,057 posts)
7. Beautifully said!
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 07:03 PM
Dec 2025

Thank you so much for this! Since I already know what I think and how I view things, I so much appreciate OP/threads where I get a feel of other people's thinking. It helps me overcome feelings of, "Don't others see this shit for exactly what it is?"

Cows moo. Lawn mowers mow lawns. Corporations seek profits. That's not to suggest that all corporations are bad, or evil in the non-religious sense. Corporate news is generally bad, misleading, and report too much misinformation for me to watch. The current "opinion journalism" of our era has elements of good and bad per CNN and MSNOW, with Fox being evil.

The human brain is a curious thing. Repeated exposure to lies changes the way people process information, with a reduction in rational thinking and an increase in emotional response. I am often reminded of Rubin telling me in 1974 that "a lie twice repeated becomes accepted fact in prison." Then add the power of the internet, and the human brain tends to get overwhelmed ..... and the person resorts to the dangerous shortcuts to thinking that has become so common these days. It continues to puzzle me why some of the people I have known since grade school, who seemed to be normal, decent people, think that as fans of the felon, that he cares about them, and would be buddies should they ever meet him.

It would seem to me that we need to define the current Project 2025 offenses as economic warfare. Put it in terms of the prices of groceries. That's simple enough that anyone who does grocery shopping understands. There are, of course, some who would recommend not going there. They are the wealthy, who even if they have not actively participated in it, have become wealthier. Economic warfare has been waged upon the American public -- Democrats, republicans, and independents -- for a heck of a long time. It's time we fight back.

jfz9580m

(17,191 posts)
8. Thanks
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 07:16 PM
Dec 2025

Last edited Tue Dec 16, 2025, 04:51 AM - Edit history (1)

You yourself are a treasure this board is lucky to have H20 Man..setting it apart from the various FBs and similar…
I think the difference lies in a place not gate-kept by a handful of powerful new media corporations.

(Capcha: you no longer have an icon H20 man but it used to be Muhammad Ali? ..with all this talk of AI and bots..simple enough and may help EarlG).

H2O Man

(79,057 posts)
9. Thank you!
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 09:15 PM
Dec 2025

I really appreciate that! I try to add some value here, and am comfortable doing that because of what you said about it not being gate-kept. (One of my favorite things was years ago, a forum member insisting she had proof that I was Patrick Buchanan, hoping to get me removed. Shortly thereafter, she was removed. Though I can't offer any proof, I think she was Stephen Miller! Ha!)

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
13. Never heard of "Activist HQ" before
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 09:04 AM
Dec 2025

After a www search it's one more new site I'll be paying attention to to help kill the R party at the ballot box.

Response to KS Toronado (Reply #13)

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
15. Guess again
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 10:22 AM
Dec 2025


FYI, there is a group called Activist HQ, looked up their fakebook page, not very active.

Response to KS Toronado (Reply #15)

Martin Eden

(15,631 posts)
11. Reality is, this too shall pass
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 11:20 PM
Dec 2025

I mean that as a double entendre.

The Felon's latest outrage will be replaced by the next, another in a long string. Will it pass without making a difference? Time may tell.

And this hideous episode in our history must also pass. Time will tell if the damage is long-lasting, or it sparks the next leap forward in bending the long arc of the moral universe towards justice.

Reality is, it is up to us to make that happen.

H2O Man

(79,057 posts)
12. Right!
Mon Dec 15, 2025, 11:44 PM
Dec 2025

The little media I've seen has indicated that some republicans in DC have said his insulting Reiner was in bad taste. One might question where they have been the literally hundreds of times he has resorted to vile insults. Hopefully more will do so as he continues to do offensive things ..... and not just what he says, but the damage he is inflicting upon the United States.

The route our country is on should not be mistaken for a hamster wheel, as this will indeed come to an end, and things will be very different. It really is up to us which direction our society goes in. It will not be easy, but can be accomplished.

H2O Man

(79,057 posts)
18. He will get worse.
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 01:55 PM
Dec 2025

That might not seem possible, but it will come to be. Things will get worse. But then they will get better in the second-half of 2026.

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