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MarineCombatEngineer

(18,037 posts)
7. The one that brought me and my wife to tears is when Edith died
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 03:10 PM
Dec 16

and Archie didn't know what to do.

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lostnfound

(17,485 posts)
16. It was Part of The Process of Democracy
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 07:58 PM
Dec 16

Shows like that — and Mary Tyler Moore, and before that Andy Griffith, and Little House on the Prairie and many others— helped the public process political issues, evolving society, changes it happened. The public mostly receive training in civics, but shows like this gave us a reason to have dialogue in school or in the workplace or in our families, especially, about the Vietnam war, women’s rights, civil rights, gays, racism, equal opportunity,, the culture of youth versus the generation from the 50s with its materialism and traditional values.

The absence of this common language is a big part of the problem today. We are discouraged from having authentic dialogue and instead are herded into isolated channels like ignorant cattle.

Irish_Dem

(80,965 posts)
17. Excellent points. We saw women's rights, civil rights, decent behavior, civic duty.
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 08:03 PM
Dec 16

Standing up for what is right in peaceful ways.

Yes all the human rights, across the board.

Yes any dialogue today except the approved party line is prohibited.
We must talk like the MAGA cult.

This is like China and Russia.
NK, Saudi, Iran, etc etc.

Evil has descended across the planet.

lostnfound

(17,485 posts)
18. Plot resolution almost always required self-reflection. Today they depict violence or only harsh justice as solution
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 08:11 PM
Dec 16

Torture scenes, simplistic justification for brutality. Wholesome is seen as boring.
All of these shows would be harassed as ‘woke’

Irish_Dem

(80,965 posts)
19. Higher level functioning is no longer admired or respected.
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 08:14 PM
Dec 16

To be a decent, evolved person is bad.

Being a racist, sexist, full of hatred is the ideal now.

rsdsharp

(11,965 posts)
9. I had flown to Arizona to visit my older brother and his wife the day before this aired.
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 04:06 PM
Dec 16

That Saturday they invited friends for dinner, and after we ate we sat in the darkened dining room watching this episode on TV.

This isn’t really the last scene between the two. That took place at the front door after Edith had joined Gloria and Joey at the taxi. Mike told Archie that he knew Archie always thought Mike hated him, but he didn’t. He loved him. Then he hugged Archie and left.

CBS cut to a commercial, and I sat in this darkened room, weeping, knowing that I was going to embarrass my big brother when the lights came up. Then, he sobbed as he reached for the light switch. All five of us had been crying!

bmichaelh

(1,158 posts)
13. Carroll O'Connor
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 04:59 PM
Dec 16

I remember interviews with Rob Reiner where he said Carroll O'Connor was more liberal than he was.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,408 posts)
14. Norman Lear in his 90's said that AITF was like a rorschach test.
Tue Dec 16, 2025, 05:08 PM
Dec 16

People on both sides of the economic and political spectrum saw it very differently.

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