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Jilly_in_VA

(13,757 posts)
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 03:48 PM Wednesday

UnitedHealth reduced hospitalizations for nursing home seniors. Now it faces wrongful death claims

hree nursing home residents died because employees of the American healthcare giant UnitedHealth Group helped delay or deny them critical hospital care, two pending lawsuits and a complaint to state authorities have alleged.

The three cases involve a UnitedHealth partnership initiative that places medical staff from the company’s direct care unit, Optum, inside nursing homes to care for residents insured by the company’s insurance arm.

UnitedHealth says one of the initiative’s goals is to protect patients by reducing unnecessary hospital admissions. Those are admissions the insurance giant would otherwise have to pay for.

In Georgia, the family of a woman named Cindy Deal filed a lawsuit alleging that the 58-year-old died because Optum and her nursing home failed to hospitalize her for hours after she started foaming at the mouth and appeared to be having a seizure.

In Ohio, the family of a retiree named Mary Grant filed a lawsuit claiming that the 70-year-old died after Optum and Grant’s nursing home failed to send her to the hospital, though she had suffered a traumatic head injury and began vomiting.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/dec/17/unitedhealth-nursing-homes

I think Luigi Mangione was justified on behalf of these families. YMMV

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UnitedHealth reduced hospitalizations for nursing home seniors. Now it faces wrongful death claims (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Wednesday OP
Those are admissions the insurance giant would otherwise have to pay for. patphil Wednesday #1
Good Faux pas Wednesday #2
Kick dalton99a Wednesday #3
If I were on Mangione's jury, I would refuse to convict. eom. Coventina Wednesday #4
I would too if UHC had denied care, but they didn't. In fact, Luigi never was covered by UHC. And his beef, assuming he Silent Type Wednesday #6
I'd be tempted drmeow Wednesday #7
Both Obama and Biden had programs to reduce hospital readmissions. If we ever get to Universal care, there will be Silent Type Wednesday #5
Justifiable homicide Jilly_in_VA Thursday #8

patphil

(8,655 posts)
1. Those are admissions the insurance giant would otherwise have to pay for.
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 03:57 PM
Wednesday

And there we have it. Delay costly hospital care while pretending to provide adequate care at the Nursing Home.
These people are evil.

Silent Type

(12,372 posts)
6. I would too if UHC had denied care, but they didn't. In fact, Luigi never was covered by UHC. And his beef, assuming he
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 04:17 PM
Wednesday

had one, was with doctors that could not repair self-inflicted nerve damage.

Silent Type

(12,372 posts)
5. Both Obama and Biden had programs to reduce hospital readmissions. If we ever get to Universal care, there will be
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 04:14 PM
Wednesday

emphasis on hospital readdmissions because it's often a failure in care whether outpatient, inpatient, other facility, or wherever. Heck, under original Medicare, hospitals get punished if a patient is readmitted within so many days and medical records aren't sufficient to show patient needed rehospitalization.

If there is merit, the lawsuits will go against Optum with huge awards and, even more likely, the nursing home.

Until Congress gets off it ass and enacts rational healthcare legislation, we'll continue to have this kind of crud. Congress has had 60 years -- some of those years when Dems had control -- and this is the best they can enact?

I think Luigi would be justified if he had ever been insured by UHC or had a claim denied. He did not. His beef was with doctors who couldn't treat his self-inflicted nerve damage from weightlifting and exercise.

Jilly_in_VA

(13,757 posts)
8. Justifiable homicide
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 11:54 AM
Thursday

on behalf of the millions who have been denied care by United and who HAVE suffered harm or death, that would be my reasoning.

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