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global1

(26,352 posts)
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 09:12 PM Wednesday

What Did They Give Him To Deliver This Address.....

He's really hopped up. Not even taking a breath. How soon will he run out of steam and put himself to sleep.

He's trying to buy his way out of the crisis he created.

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What Did They Give Him To Deliver This Address..... (Original Post) global1 Wednesday OP
It's the big one Diraven Wednesday #1
He Might Stroke Off Before He Ends This Address....nt global1 Wednesday #3
Pervetin? canetoad Wednesday #2
You're right! He's not taking a breath. Jim__ Wednesday #4
Would Adderall do this? Liberal In Texas Wednesday #5
Adderall or Provigil. nt mr715 Wednesday #6
What about cocaine? Irish_Dem Wednesday #7
I don't think he's on cocaine. mr715 Wednesday #10
I am sure he is on a drug cocktail. Irish_Dem Wednesday #11
I think the drug cocktail is fairly typical, though. mr715 Wednesday #13
Our discussions about Trump's drug usage are always fascinating. Irish_Dem Wednesday #17
lol. "....to prevent his skeleton from escaping". chowder66 Wednesday #19
Do they ever replay these things for him? I am thinking no. Wouldn't want to upset him ALBliberal Wednesday #8
When I realized he wasn't taking a breath mercuryblues Wednesday #9
No such luck skypilot Wednesday #12
Heh. Yup. Sighhh... electric_blue68 Wednesday #14
I was wondering the same thing PatSeg Wednesday #15
Recommended. H2O Man Wednesday #16
He realized that people are going to remember Rob Reiner for a long time and not... Crowman2009 Wednesday #18
He's about to go down the Warren G. Harding path. Crowman2009 Wednesday #20
Wiles said he has an addictive personality Hassler Thursday #21

Jim__

(15,057 posts)
4. You're right! He's not taking a breath.
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 09:18 PM
Wednesday

I only put it on after I read your post. And he's definitely talking like he's hopped up.

Irish_Dem

(79,266 posts)
7. What about cocaine?
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 09:25 PM
Wednesday

People who worked with him in the 80's say he was a big cocaine abuser back then?
Could he still be using?

mr715

(2,592 posts)
10. I don't think he's on cocaine.
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 09:35 PM
Wednesday

There isn't really a 'razor edge' to the energy that you'd expect from cocaine. Adderall would get him through the speech and explain the sniffling, and the relative focus.

Provigil, I believe, would just keep him awake. It is to my understanding a very clean psychostimulant.

Hell, I don't know. He might be on a carefully titrated combo of things to prevent his skeleton from escaping.

Irish_Dem

(79,266 posts)
11. I am sure he is on a drug cocktail.
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 09:45 PM
Wednesday

Like last time, the current WH physician keeps him medicated with uppers and downers.
In the military they call it go and no go drugs.

But he has a history of abusing drugs, so he could be adding something extra.

Also keep in mind with your analysis we are looking at someone with dementia,
so we may not see the typical reaction to various drugs.

When I look at the Oval Office ludicrous gold decor on every inch of wall space
it looks bipolar or big hits of uppers.

mr715

(2,592 posts)
13. I think the drug cocktail is fairly typical, though.
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 09:51 PM
Wednesday

His White House is increasingly looking like his Atlantic City casinos, which look like if a colonialist vomited on an old sears catalog.

You have an interesting hypothesis regarding the decor and his mental decline. I wonder if it is a regression to his (pun unintended) golden years of the 80s or if it just because "ooo shiny my frontal lobe is swiss cheese".

I suspect the former.

In re: Go/No go. My understanding is the Air Force goes with provigil for "go" and zaleplon/sonata for "no go", and I can report confidently that 20 mg of zalepon will make ya no go. Amazing drug, approved for middle-of-the-night insomnia because the body clears it so fast. But you know I'm a neurochemical nerd.

Irish_Dem

(79,266 posts)
17. Our discussions about Trump's drug usage are always fascinating.
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 10:20 PM
Wednesday

Yes he has to be on a drug cocktail.
He is manic and needs to calm down.
And falls asleep and needs to wake up and be more alert.
But this is a tricky combination to balance.

Well I am now wondering if Trump has been bipolar all along.
Or if we are just seeing the effects of all the uppers he has taken in the past and currently.
I think yes it is combination of factors, his 80's narcissistic obsession with gold and being important.
And his dementia, it is now all weird and very off, this gold decor.

The history of USAF go and no go drugs has changed of course over time.
In WWII and Viet Nam, amphetamines were used.
The Nazis used large quantities of drugs I have read.

Interesting about what the USAF is using now.

PatSeg

(51,930 posts)
15. I was wondering the same thing
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 09:57 PM
Wednesday

He is speaking so fast and not using that annoying sing-song voice of his. They gave him something, which doesn't make anything he says true though.

H2O Man

(78,496 posts)
16. Recommended.
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 09:59 PM
Wednesday

My cousin called and noted the exact same things -- non-stop pressured speech without visible inhaling.

That was truly pathetic.

Crowman2009

(3,390 posts)
18. He realized that people are going to remember Rob Reiner for a long time and not...
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 11:52 PM
Wednesday

...the orange assclown.

Crowman2009

(3,390 posts)
20. He's about to go down the Warren G. Harding path.
Wed Dec 17, 2025, 11:54 PM
Wednesday

And we all know how moral and upright he was.

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