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— MeidasTouch (@meidastouch.com) 2025-12-20T12:33:16.088Z
The administration inserted a photo of Bill Clinton, Michael Jackson, and Diana Ross into the Epstein files and falsely implied it showed them with victims.
In reality, itâs a publicly available fundraiser photo featuring Jackson and Rossâs own children.
FalloutShelter
(14,128 posts)It calls into question EVERY PHOTO in their doc dump.
They think they are soooo smart.
It NEVER ends.
PatSeg
(51,930 posts)it was dumb as hell. In this day and age, it was something easily disproven and now calls into question every document and photo they released.
Dave says
(5,310 posts)If the veracity is called into question, the oligarchs and their political agents can deny and lie until the rest of us are just dizzy, and justice gets denied again. IF they are successful.
PatSeg
(51,930 posts)I wonder if they are that clever though.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,087 posts)progressoid
(52,485 posts)They'll hear on soc media and AM radio how either:
A. The files can't be trusted.
or
B. Proves that Clinton is involved.
They won't hear or believe anything that challenges the narrative they've been fed for 30 years.
It's a cult.
PatSeg
(51,930 posts)Though I don't think we'll ever reach the 30%. After all these years, the brainwashing is total and unyielding. Maybe a few will wake up, but even then, they probably won't admit it.
Turbineguy
(39,790 posts)PatSeg
(51,930 posts)if it wasn't so scary.
slightlv
(7,368 posts)all that much harder, naturally. These people are just plain evil. There is no other word that comes close to describing them. Cover for the real criminals any way they can... redact their names, rip out the docs with pics of the hoity-toity, and create false pics and emails to embody all your enemies as the de facto criminals. One of these days, I dearly hope the real crooks get just what they deserve, and all their victims (of every kind and nature) get their due.
Dave says
(5,310 posts)
has been living in a dream. No way, no how would they (initially) release documents and images deeply harmful to themselves and their oligarchic allies. However, pointing out their unlawful ways is a big positive.
MiHale
(12,533 posts)Botany
(76,200 posts)Last edited Sat Dec 20, 2025, 09:44 AM - Edit history (1)
The administration inserted a 25+ year old photo of Bill Clinton, Michael Jackson, Diana Ross, and her
Children into what was supposed to be the Epstein files and to falsely imply that Bill Clinton was the
problem with Epstein, child rape, and an international child sex trafficking ring.
Was Trump aware of this? Was Bondi aware of this? Was this Millers work. Was this Sebastian Gorka and Noem on the Range dirty work in putting out fake evidence on Bill Clinton to protect Trump?
Who or whom were behind this indefensible act?
Everybody in America and around the world should be aware of this if true. (I am giving them the benefit
of the doubt.)
happy feet
(1,255 posts)but, it won't
purr-rat beauty
(943 posts)We do not deserve to be treated like idiots
The victims do not deserve to be treated as a liability, they deserve justice.
Botany
(76,200 posts)Last edited Sat Dec 20, 2025, 09:47 AM - Edit history (1)
. trafficking. Planting of false evidence is a felony. End of story.
slightlv
(7,368 posts)I hadn't even thought of this angle of it! Oh, for a high powered lawyer who is on our side who has the strength, stamina, and courage to stand up to trump and his maladministration and finish what needs to be done!
orangecrush
(28,047 posts)paleotn
(21,371 posts)travelingthrulife
(4,259 posts)mwmisses4289
(3,060 posts)sheshe2
(95,518 posts)of the crimes that were committed against young girls, now women. This is a slap in the face of all that these girls suffered. They are raping them again.
travelingthrulife
(4,259 posts)the dishonor of our democracy.
CBHagman
(17,418 posts)It's not that reporters have failed to mention that Trump pardoned the January 6th insurrectionists, but the media generally and the Republican Party specifically and, really, everybody should treat what Trump did and is doing (including lying repeatedly about election results) as outright betrayal of the nation, open contempt for democracy, wanton lawlessness. Donald J. Trump should go down in history as a petty and vicious villain, yet we are still seeing coverage that frames the narrative in ways that ignore the grim realities.
chouchou
(2,724 posts)spanone
(140,898 posts)Sick Fucks.
hadEnuf
(3,509 posts)They can't be trusted on anything. People are relying on felons who have no regard for the courts or the law to provide evidence against themselves. Not going to happen.
The only way we would get anything truthful is if those files were seized, which we don't currently have the capacity to do.
orangecrush
(28,047 posts)Lonestarblue
(13,182 posts)Mainstream media buries the truth.
Callie1979
(1,081 posts)LiberalArkie
(19,198 posts)was just a getaway for the Girl Scout summer outings.
How can anyone deny how wholesome the whole Epstein "Fake News" story really is.
travelingthrulife
(4,259 posts)This is such obvious deception, even MAGA should notice.
LiberalArkie
(19,198 posts)he wants. His polls went up when the audio of grabbing them by their parts. His polls went up when he said he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and nothing would happen. In other words for these people the Epstein files (him in it) would only boost him in that group of "Alpha Males".
I know way too many of these type of men and women. Yes, women who like that kind of mindset.
karynnj
(60,751 posts)this did not look troubling. It looked like the millions of pictures a successful politician takes at fundraisers. This one with famous people.
Why? Clinton is wearing a suit and it is clearly a posed picture. Clinton and every successful politician pose for thousands of these .. including with people like us who treasure those photos.
Why was it in the Epstein photos? It might be that Epstein, a known donor to many - just as Trump was decades ago- may have been involved in the fundraiser.
travelingthrulife
(4,259 posts)If they bit and assaulted the victims, he had film to use. If they didn't bite, he would just use them for other connections and to provide cover for the sex trafficking business.
karynnj
(60,751 posts)David Brooks' description of interesting conversations with interesting scientists, politicians etc aptly describes that. In addition, a NYT article explaining his value to Chase Manhattan of bringing together people who helped each other build businesses does as well.
Interesting that his skill at creating a salon enjoyed by powerful or just interesting people could coexist with and cover his darker pedophile sex trafficking.
Buckeyeblue
(6,165 posts)The one where he is in the pool with Maxwell looked fake. Why would Bill Clinton go swimming with them? He really doesn't seem like the type of person that gets in a swimming pool. Maybe the beach. But not a pool.
paleotn
(21,371 posts)Compare the photo to a ocean of other photos and...."Gee! That one sure looks sus. Why that's a picture of Clinton from years ago on vacation somewhere innocuous that's been added to a supposed Epstein related photo." If the one in the OP is any indication, these people are so incompetent, not much computing power will be needed to flush out the fakes.
paleotn
(21,371 posts)Now whoda thunk that?
Unless there's a treasure trove of Epstein info somewhere that's not under regime control, a la something like Daniel Ellsberg, this whole Epstein "release" will be inconclusive at best. For Jackson's estate, Diana Ross, possibly Bill Clinton, and others, this "release" will probably result in a wave of legal complaints AGAINST the regime for defamation and fraud. This particular fraud in the OP is so ridiculously incompetent it just begs to be sued.
By the way, this isn't a release. This is a bunch of kids fucking around with Photoshop and Adobe and they're not very good at it.
MineralMan
(150,498 posts)That never got me off the hook with my Mom, and it's not going to get Trump off the hook, either.
Joinfortmill
(19,878 posts)marble falls
(70,376 posts)TBF
(35,430 posts)Trump was in office 4 years previously and took a ton of documents with him down to FL. Who knows what he was able to pull and destroy. I don't think we're ever going to hear the half of it ... unless the Epstein estate is willing to quietly leak things. Ghislaine Maxwell's silence will be ensured with a full pardon. I really don't think we're going to see anything implicating Trump (although I would love to see the financial documents, I suspect they not only abused young girls, but also made a ton of money out of pimping them).
llmart
(17,290 posts)If these pictures were untouched they would have surfaced years ago when the GOP was persecuting the Clintons endlessly. Only someone so ignorant or infatuated with their orange god or completely unaware of how today's technology works would believe that in all that was released so far, only Bill Clinton came up and not any with Trump. Buth then again, the cult members are pretty damned ignorant so that's probably their target audience.
Doodley
(11,566 posts)orangecrush
(28,047 posts)Doodley
(11,566 posts)NameAlreadyTaken
(2,208 posts)Doodley
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there is nothing nefarious about it. It is a picture of Diana Ross and her child, the day she met Bill Clinton and Michael Jackson with his children. Yet this photo is being shown on Fox News, CNN and many more to imply that the children were victims of Epstein that have been redacted. There are YouTubes about "Clintons Face Jail Time," MAGA's are posting this proves Trump is innocent and Bill Clinton is guilty. This manipulation by the DOJ is illegal and I hope Democratic lawmakers fight back.
Deep State Witch
(12,530 posts)I would not be surprised if Ms. Ross and the Jackson estate file some kind of lawsuit against DOJ.
orangecrush
(28,047 posts)Oneironaut
(6,190 posts)Especially stuff about Trump and the billionaire class. Theyre want plausible deniability. Guess all of it cant be trusted then! And also, What? We released the files like you asked!
orangecrush
(28,047 posts)That's the name of their game.
GiqueCee
(3,275 posts)... these people(?) are. And dumber than a bag of hammers.
wolfie001
(6,924 posts)Most evil, most corrupt and most dishonest administration in US history.
Six117
(296 posts)the sky is blue and water is wet -I would still double check.
vapor2
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LonePirate
(14,326 posts)Garland's DOJ may not be as bad as this one; but their utter incompetence at pretty much everything enabled this mess.
Kid Berwyn
(22,693 posts)