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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMSM: "AOC is just a left wing kook we can't take seriously, while
Erika Kirk is the voice of a generation."
Makes you want to scream!
SocialDemocrat61
(6,635 posts)
anciano
(2,137 posts)Intractable
(1,555 posts)Really fine.
I think that's one of the reasons republican men hate her so much. They can't have her!
SocialDemocrat61
(6,635 posts)They fear strong intelligent women who they can't control and dominate.
llmart
(17,290 posts)Trump especially is terrified of strong, intelligent dark-skinned women.
Men with low self-esteem can't stand it if a woman is not intimidated by them.
BidenRocks
(2,691 posts)why do so many strive for that dark tan?
They should look like Geishas. Cloud Dancer would work.
(Remember the 'color of the year?')
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,496 posts)Oneironaut
(6,190 posts)And, I totally agree! We can only hope she will pick up where Bernie left off and continue to bring wonderful things in the future.
mvd
(65,825 posts)AOC is smart, progressive, and strong. Those traits add a whole lot to her good looks.
Oneironaut
(6,190 posts)"Beautiful" is always a package deal.
HappyH
(160 posts)Mister Ed
(6,784 posts)She's the real deal. I wish we could clone her.
Wanderlust988
(718 posts)There is nothing about AOC that shows she can control the whole Democratic Party. She has support on the coasts and urban areas, but that's it. She wouldn't come close to winning a South Carolina primary.
MadameButterfly
(3,720 posts)She could become Speaker of the House, or a Leader of the Senate.
I could see her as the next generation's Nancy Pelosi.
But she is young, who knows where the country will be 20 years from now. After the pendulum swings back from Trump.
After 20 more years of strong women in politics. Did we foresee Barack Obama 20 years before he became president?
Frankly, she will have to be a little less beautiful and much more experienced to overcome the mysogeny, before she will be taken seriously enough to have a shot at the presidency.
As for South Carolina: that was put there to make sure no Progressive gets though a primary run. Enfranchising Black people was just an excuse to make it hard to undo. That needs to be fixed, or the Democratic Party is toast. Our candidates can't be chosen by one of the most conservative states in the country (nor should they be chosen by the most Progressive states either). We need to go back to starting with moderate states, small enough to really meet the candidates, then move on to states with prominant Black populations that are also swing states like Michigan, Virginia, Georgia, and North Carolina.
I was fine with Iowa. A one time technology glitch is irrelevant. Yes it's mostly White, but it gave us Obama. It also gave us a tie between Bernie and Buttigieg, which is the real reason Iowa was removed.
Wanderlust988
(718 posts)He just wasn't a flame thrower, which is what you want. The black voters need to be there early cause they're not dreamers. They are clear-eyed and want someone that can win. All you folks clamoring for an AOC/Buttigieg ticket are so ridiculous. Although lovely people, they would only win a handful of states, if that. That's why we need South Carolina.
reACTIONary
(6,941 posts).... not the Democratic majority. The underground is a bit more enthusiastic than the majority.
Buckeyeblue
(6,165 posts)It's ironic that she has three Ks in her name. Because that's really the type of hate she spews.
edhopper
(37,000 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(6,635 posts)
Honestly, I feel bad for Mr. Met here.
Javaman
(65,031 posts)Shes milking the feel sorry for me angle for all its worth.
And shes hitching her cart to the couchfucker.
This wont end well for her
Deuxcents
(25,314 posts)edhopper
(37,000 posts)the Press coverage?
murielm99
(32,630 posts)gab13by13
(31,026 posts)Bondi/Blanche cover up of the Epstein files.
What happened yesterday was a crime, a release of worthless files, heavily redacted files.
Magats fear people like AOC so she must be attacked.
Amaryllis
(10,922 posts)edhopper
(37,000 posts)everywhere.
LymphocyteLover
(9,279 posts)what news sources do you take in?
ificandream
(11,642 posts)Links, please. And more than one.
The thread is waiting ....
obamanut2012
(29,125 posts)Trust_Reality
(2,259 posts)ToxMarz
(2,721 posts)Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's net worth is estimated to be approximately $49,000 as of November 2025, with some estimates ranging up to around $125,000 including her retirement savings. She is considered one of the least wealthy members of the U.S. Congress.
Compared to MTG:
Commonly cited figure Multiple media outlets and financial tracking sites initially reported her net worth as approximately $700,000 at the time she took office.
Since joining Congress, her net worth has reportedly increased significantly to an estimated $22 to $25 million as of late 2025. This increase has drawn scrutiny and led to allegations of insider trading, which Greene has denied, attributing the gains to her financial advisor and existing private investments.
According to Yahoo, Erika Kirk has an estimated net worth of about $2 million, which comes from her business, real estate, and podcasting endeavors. Following the passing of Charlie Kirk, whose net worth was close to $12 million, her entire wealth is anticipated to increase to about $14 million.
edhopper
(37,000 posts)to see what I am really saying.
ToxMarz
(2,721 posts)I meant the general you. I should have been clearer and said "Regarless of whether anyone thinks she's a kook". Meaning even those who might should be able to see the glaring contrast
edhopper
(37,000 posts)I get you now.
Just that a few replies asked me to cite the actual Media outlet this quote is from. So I was in defense mode.
Cheezoholic
(3,502 posts)ToxMarz
(2,721 posts)I meant the general you. I should have been clearer and said "Regarless of whether anyone thinks she's a kook". Meaning even those who might should be able to see the glaring contrast
milestogo
(22,443 posts)She is the voice of crazy people.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,087 posts)the voice of a generation of crazy people?
Raven123
(7,438 posts)ificandream
(11,642 posts)Scrivener7
(58,095 posts)Sometimes the message sent by the totality of the news with respect to a specific story sends a very clear message. This is one of those times, and I find the OP to be an accurate description of that message.
edhopper
(37,000 posts)But some people don't get the gist and are literalist.
Scrivener7
(58,095 posts)Really, this kind of OP is posted all the time here. Can't figure why this one has created such bizarre anger.
edhopper
(37,000 posts)it is strange. I mean, if they think I am posting a real quote, sure,, ask where it is from.
But I thought it was obviously a opinion about the state of the Media.
LymphocyteLover
(9,279 posts)Scrivener7
(58,095 posts)live love laugh
(16,165 posts)TexLaProgressive
(12,655 posts)Response to edhopper (Original post)
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Cheezoholic
(3,502 posts)Not all of M$M media implies this but a lot of them DO infer or outright say (Faux, Newslaxx etc) that AOC is crazy. Bari Weiss has yet to give a "town hall" to AOC on the "new" CBS. The argument being made by the OP is that much of M$M is trying to elevate Kirk as a leader of the younger MAGAt (splintered and crazy) repuke movement and giving her cred's by implying AOC is the same for the left but that AOC is the one who is "crazy". I see and read the unfair biased that OP speaks of every day. Many times it is very (intentionally) subtle. The intention of the OP was to rant that ANYONE who thinks Kirk is some magnanimous earth moving leader now that her husband is dead is crazy and that anyone who thinks AOC is crazy is even crazier!
The right is milking this Kirk shit for everything they can and its blowing up in their faces.
ificandream
(11,642 posts)But he posted one flimsy "quote" with no sources. Not a one. That's not a quote. It's a figment of someone's imagination.
And one could read the bare sentence easily argue that it was a right-wing troll. Either way it was dumb.
And the MSM is not trying to elevate Kirk as anything. They are giving her news coverage. Unfortunately for all of us, she is a newsmaker at this point in time. I don't think her fame and glory will last more than a short time. Sure, the right-wing clowns at Fox and their friends will continue to speak of her, but you will see far less of her elsewhere than you are now.
Scrivener7
(58,095 posts)of these two women. That kind of thing is posted here all the time.
You keep calling edhopper a troll for no reason. That's really nasty. Why are you doing that?
edhopper
(37,000 posts)Scrivener7
(58,095 posts)edhopper
(37,000 posts)that my OP was not an actual quote, but an editorial comment aimed at the Media.
Traildogbob
(12,436 posts)Hate the fact she is so beautiful in RED. Thats their team color. She is hijacking it, like they did the American flag. And she is so damn smart, another attribute the RED KKKlan have not a shred of. They have made Red the color of stupid.
AOC is showing Red is not Dead.
Their Babe and focal point MTG, has turned sour on them. They still got the theater pole pumper, with squeeze boxes, Boobert and her bright red lip paint with a passion for poles that go boom and kill people. Lots of children.
AOC is a force. And media hate it.
Cha
(316,394 posts)AOC is DEI and Democracy.
So Fuck Off M$M as they have in my world since November 2002.
Evolve Dammit
(21,407 posts)Buddyzbuddy
(2,043 posts)She's willing to shake things up while the old guard doesn't support her for leadership positions. I won't name names but I'm sure you have an idea. It's like the Harper Valley P.T.A.. "Can't" is not part of her vocabulary and that's my kind of politician.
edhopper
(37,000 posts)GiqueCee
(3,275 posts)... that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez a "kook" ARE the kooks, who offer nothing of substance or value to ANY conversation. Fuck 'em all. They, and their verbal vomit, disgust me.
Indyfan53
(504 posts)The billionaires who benefited from Orange fuck want to controll the narrative so the dumbfuck masses keep voting Republican
reACTIONary
(6,941 posts).... a bit more specific? Maybe provide at least one quote? Maybe even a large number of such quotes, if you want to impune an entire institution.
edhopper
(37,000 posts)They are doing a good job of that themselves.
reACTIONary
(6,941 posts).... called AOC a left wing kook?
Was this an opinion piece, or an actual news article?