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edhopper

(37,000 posts)
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 09:44 AM 19 hrs ago

MSM: "AOC is just a left wing kook we can't take seriously, while

Erika Kirk is the voice of a generation."

Makes you want to scream!

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MSM: "AOC is just a left wing kook we can't take seriously, while (Original Post) edhopper 19 hrs ago OP
AOC is the future of both the Democratic Party and the country SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #1
Agree, love AOC! anciano 19 hrs ago #3
Damn! That woman is fine. Intractable 18 hrs ago #8
Like Jasmine Crockett SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #10
Especially those with dark skin. llmart 17 hrs ago #18
If dark skin is a problem, BidenRocks 4 hrs ago #64
YESSSSS... BINGOOO!! InAbLuEsTaTe 18 hrs ago #9
My gosh She's so beautiful. Oneironaut 17 hrs ago #15
I have a crush, but importantly.. mvd 16 hrs ago #31
100% this! Oneironaut 16 hrs ago #33
And she can dance! HappyH 17 hrs ago #20
I agree. I wasn't predisposed to approve of her, but she has really shown me. Mister Ed 15 hrs ago #36
Tap the brakes...AOC is the future for Democratic Socialists and the Bernie supporters, NOT the Democratic Party Wanderlust988 12 hrs ago #50
It's not for South Carolina to decide, and it doesn't have to be the presidency MadameButterfly 8 hrs ago #59
It was South Carolina that saved our ass in 2020 with Joe Biden, and he is progressive Wanderlust988 1 hr ago #65
Here we are amongst the Democratic underground.... reACTIONary 7 hrs ago #60
What generation does Erika Kirk speak for? Buckeyeblue 19 hrs ago #2
Ask Bari Weiss edhopper 19 hrs ago #4
This Bari Weiss? SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #5
The generation of grifters and film flam artists Javaman 17 hrs ago #19
AOC has and is putting in the work while Ms Kirk is being anointed by the press...big difference Deuxcents 19 hrs ago #6
And who gets 10x edhopper 18 hrs ago #11
Lauren Underwood is putting in the work. murielm99 17 hrs ago #16
AOC gave the strongest condemnation of the gab13by13 18 hrs ago #7
Source, please. Amaryllis 18 hrs ago #12
The Media edhopper 18 hrs ago #13
I could see FoxNews and maybe CNN. May NYTimes and WaPo but not sure who else LymphocyteLover 16 hrs ago #25
"The media. Everywhere." ificandream 16 hrs ago #30
Link obamanut2012 15 hrs ago #37
MSM - just a bunch of profiteers supporting fellow profiteers. Trust_Reality 18 hrs ago #14
Regarless of whether you think she's a kook or not, she's not an opportunistic grifter ToxMarz 17 hrs ago #17
You should re-read my OP edhopper 17 hrs ago #21
When I said "Regarless of whether you think she's a kook" I wasn't referring to the original poster ToxMarz 15 hrs ago #46
Thanks edhopper 11 hrs ago #53
OP wasn't saying AOC's a kook. Quite the opposite. OP was referencing her unfair and biased treatment by M$M vs Kirk n/t Cheezoholic 16 hrs ago #28
When I said "Regarless of whether you think she's a kook" I wasn't referring to the original poster ToxMarz 15 hrs ago #44
She most certainly is not the voice of a generation. milestogo 17 hrs ago #22
Maybe MorbidButterflyTat 11 hrs ago #56
What is the source for that quote? Raven123 16 hrs ago #23
You have a long wait because there is none. The OP just trolled it out of thin air. ificandream 16 hrs ago #34
It seems clear to me that it's describing the general gist of what the MSM is saying, rather than quoting anyone. Scrivener7 15 hrs ago #38
Thank you edhopper 15 hrs ago #41
And apparently, general statements really piss them off. Which is ... very strange. Scrivener7 15 hrs ago #45
Yeah edhopper 11 hrs ago #52
I'm sure FoxNews says that. Does MSNOW or CNN? LymphocyteLover 16 hrs ago #24
CBS is clearly throwing down the rose petals for Kirk. That's pretty mainstream. Scrivener7 15 hrs ago #39
The Bari Weiss effect is evident. live love laugh 13 hrs ago #48
Can't scream while vomiting! TexLaProgressive 16 hrs ago #26
Post removed Post removed 16 hrs ago #27
OP is NOT implying Kirk is wonderful. The OP is about the unfair treatment AOC gets in the M$M compared to Kirk Cheezoholic 16 hrs ago #29
I don't need an interpretation. I get what he made it look like he was saying. ificandream 16 hrs ago #32
Why does this anger you so much? The OP is obviously a general description of the current tenor of the news coverage Scrivener7 14 hrs ago #47
Thank you edhopper 15 hrs ago #43
This ain't no mic drop. There's nothing wrong with the OP. Scrivener7 15 hrs ago #40
You don't seem to understand edhopper 15 hrs ago #42
MAGA really Traildogbob 16 hrs ago #35
What? Who said that.. Bari Weiss? Kirk is Hate... Cha 13 hrs ago #49
More MSM "framing" and not so subtle endorsement... Evolve Dammit 12 hrs ago #51
It doesn't help when our own Democrats don't support her. Buddyzbuddy 11 hrs ago #54
So true. edhopper 11 hrs ago #55
The lowlifes... GiqueCee 11 hrs ago #57
Oligarchs own the media Indyfan53 9 hrs ago #58
The so called "main stream media"? Could you be... reACTIONary 7 hrs ago #61
They don't need me to impune them edhopper 6 hrs ago #62
No quotes? Which MSN service... reACTIONary 6 hrs ago #63

Intractable

(1,555 posts)
8. Damn! That woman is fine.
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 10:20 AM
18 hrs ago

Really fine.

I think that's one of the reasons republican men hate her so much. They can't have her!

SocialDemocrat61

(6,635 posts)
10. Like Jasmine Crockett
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 10:23 AM
18 hrs ago

They fear strong intelligent women who they can't control and dominate.

llmart

(17,290 posts)
18. Especially those with dark skin.
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 11:43 AM
17 hrs ago

Trump especially is terrified of strong, intelligent dark-skinned women.

Men with low self-esteem can't stand it if a woman is not intimidated by them.

BidenRocks

(2,691 posts)
64. If dark skin is a problem,
Sun Dec 21, 2025, 12:58 AM
4 hrs ago

why do so many strive for that dark tan?

They should look like Geishas. Cloud Dancer would work.

(Remember the 'color of the year?')

Oneironaut

(6,190 posts)
15. My gosh She's so beautiful.
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 11:20 AM
17 hrs ago

And, I totally agree! We can only hope she will pick up where Bernie left off and continue to bring wonderful things in the future.

mvd

(65,825 posts)
31. I have a crush, but importantly..
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 12:59 PM
16 hrs ago

AOC is smart, progressive, and strong. Those traits add a whole lot to her good looks.

Mister Ed

(6,784 posts)
36. I agree. I wasn't predisposed to approve of her, but she has really shown me.
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 01:32 PM
15 hrs ago

She's the real deal. I wish we could clone her.

Wanderlust988

(718 posts)
50. Tap the brakes...AOC is the future for Democratic Socialists and the Bernie supporters, NOT the Democratic Party
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 04:18 PM
12 hrs ago

There is nothing about AOC that shows she can control the whole Democratic Party. She has support on the coasts and urban areas, but that's it. She wouldn't come close to winning a South Carolina primary.

MadameButterfly

(3,720 posts)
59. It's not for South Carolina to decide, and it doesn't have to be the presidency
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 08:54 PM
8 hrs ago

She could become Speaker of the House, or a Leader of the Senate.
I could see her as the next generation's Nancy Pelosi.
But she is young, who knows where the country will be 20 years from now. After the pendulum swings back from Trump.
After 20 more years of strong women in politics. Did we foresee Barack Obama 20 years before he became president?
Frankly, she will have to be a little less beautiful and much more experienced to overcome the mysogeny, before she will be taken seriously enough to have a shot at the presidency.

As for South Carolina: that was put there to make sure no Progressive gets though a primary run. Enfranchising Black people was just an excuse to make it hard to undo. That needs to be fixed, or the Democratic Party is toast. Our candidates can't be chosen by one of the most conservative states in the country (nor should they be chosen by the most Progressive states either). We need to go back to starting with moderate states, small enough to really meet the candidates, then move on to states with prominant Black populations that are also swing states like Michigan, Virginia, Georgia, and North Carolina.

I was fine with Iowa. A one time technology glitch is irrelevant. Yes it's mostly White, but it gave us Obama. It also gave us a tie between Bernie and Buttigieg, which is the real reason Iowa was removed.

Wanderlust988

(718 posts)
65. It was South Carolina that saved our ass in 2020 with Joe Biden, and he is progressive
Sun Dec 21, 2025, 03:47 AM
1 hr ago

He just wasn't a flame thrower, which is what you want. The black voters need to be there early cause they're not dreamers. They are clear-eyed and want someone that can win. All you folks clamoring for an AOC/Buttigieg ticket are so ridiculous. Although lovely people, they would only win a handful of states, if that. That's why we need South Carolina.

reACTIONary

(6,941 posts)
60. Here we are amongst the Democratic underground....
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 09:44 PM
7 hrs ago

.... not the Democratic majority. The underground is a bit more enthusiastic than the majority.

Buckeyeblue

(6,165 posts)
2. What generation does Erika Kirk speak for?
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 09:50 AM
19 hrs ago

It's ironic that she has three Ks in her name. Because that's really the type of hate she spews.

Javaman

(65,031 posts)
19. The generation of grifters and film flam artists
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 11:47 AM
17 hrs ago

She’s milking “the feel sorry for me” angle for all it’s worth.

And she’s hitching her cart to the couchfucker.

This won’t end well for her

Deuxcents

(25,314 posts)
6. AOC has and is putting in the work while Ms Kirk is being anointed by the press...big difference
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 10:17 AM
19 hrs ago

gab13by13

(31,026 posts)
7. AOC gave the strongest condemnation of the
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 10:18 AM
18 hrs ago

Bondi/Blanche cover up of the Epstein files.

What happened yesterday was a crime, a release of worthless files, heavily redacted files.

Magats fear people like AOC so she must be attacked.

LymphocyteLover

(9,279 posts)
25. I could see FoxNews and maybe CNN. May NYTimes and WaPo but not sure who else
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 12:28 PM
16 hrs ago

what news sources do you take in?

ificandream

(11,642 posts)
30. "The media. Everywhere."
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 12:56 PM
16 hrs ago

Links, please. And more than one.

The thread is waiting ....

ToxMarz

(2,721 posts)
17. Regarless of whether you think she's a kook or not, she's not an opportunistic grifter
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 11:25 AM
17 hrs ago

Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's net worth is estimated to be approximately $49,000 as of November 2025, with some estimates ranging up to around $125,000 including her retirement savings. She is considered one of the least wealthy members of the U.S. Congress.

Compared to MTG:
Commonly cited figure Multiple media outlets and financial tracking sites initially reported her net worth as approximately $700,000 at the time she took office.
Since joining Congress, her net worth has reportedly increased significantly to an estimated $22 to $25 million as of late 2025. This increase has drawn scrutiny and led to allegations of insider trading, which Greene has denied, attributing the gains to her financial advisor and existing private investments.

According to Yahoo, Erika Kirk has an estimated net worth of about $2 million, which comes from her business, real estate, and podcasting endeavors. Following the passing of Charlie Kirk, whose net worth was close to $12 million, her entire wealth is anticipated to increase to about $14 million.

ToxMarz

(2,721 posts)
46. When I said "Regarless of whether you think she's a kook" I wasn't referring to the original poster
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 02:04 PM
15 hrs ago

I meant the general you. I should have been clearer and said "Regarless of whether anyone thinks she's a kook". Meaning even those who might should be able to see the glaring contrast

edhopper

(37,000 posts)
53. Thanks
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 05:32 PM
11 hrs ago

I get you now.
Just that a few replies asked me to cite the actual Media outlet this quote is from. So I was in defense mode.

Cheezoholic

(3,502 posts)
28. OP wasn't saying AOC's a kook. Quite the opposite. OP was referencing her unfair and biased treatment by M$M vs Kirk n/t
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 12:41 PM
16 hrs ago

ToxMarz

(2,721 posts)
44. When I said "Regarless of whether you think she's a kook" I wasn't referring to the original poster
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 02:02 PM
15 hrs ago

I meant the general you. I should have been clearer and said "Regarless of whether anyone thinks she's a kook". Meaning even those who might should be able to see the glaring contrast

Scrivener7

(58,095 posts)
38. It seems clear to me that it's describing the general gist of what the MSM is saying, rather than quoting anyone.
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 01:38 PM
15 hrs ago

Sometimes the message sent by the totality of the news with respect to a specific story sends a very clear message. This is one of those times, and I find the OP to be an accurate description of that message.

Scrivener7

(58,095 posts)
45. And apparently, general statements really piss them off. Which is ... very strange.
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 02:03 PM
15 hrs ago

Really, this kind of OP is posted all the time here. Can't figure why this one has created such bizarre anger.

edhopper

(37,000 posts)
52. Yeah
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 05:31 PM
11 hrs ago

it is strange. I mean, if they think I am posting a real quote, sure,, ask where it is from.
But I thought it was obviously a opinion about the state of the Media.

Response to edhopper (Original post)

Cheezoholic

(3,502 posts)
29. OP is NOT implying Kirk is wonderful. The OP is about the unfair treatment AOC gets in the M$M compared to Kirk
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 12:55 PM
16 hrs ago

Not all of M$M media implies this but a lot of them DO infer or outright say (Faux, Newslaxx etc) that AOC is crazy. Bari Weiss has yet to give a "town hall" to AOC on the "new" CBS. The argument being made by the OP is that much of M$M is trying to elevate Kirk as a leader of the younger MAGAt (splintered and crazy) repuke movement and giving her cred's by implying AOC is the same for the left but that AOC is the one who is "crazy". I see and read the unfair biased that OP speaks of every day. Many times it is very (intentionally) subtle. The intention of the OP was to rant that ANYONE who thinks Kirk is some magnanimous earth moving leader now that her husband is dead is crazy and that anyone who thinks AOC is crazy is even crazier!
The right is milking this Kirk shit for everything they can and its blowing up in their faces.

ificandream

(11,642 posts)
32. I don't need an interpretation. I get what he made it look like he was saying.
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 01:03 PM
16 hrs ago

But he posted one flimsy "quote" with no sources. Not a one. That's not a quote. It's a figment of someone's imagination.

And one could read the bare sentence easily argue that it was a right-wing troll. Either way it was dumb.

And the MSM is not trying to elevate Kirk as anything. They are giving her news coverage. Unfortunately for all of us, she is a newsmaker at this point in time. I don't think her fame and glory will last more than a short time. Sure, the right-wing clowns at Fox and their friends will continue to speak of her, but you will see far less of her elsewhere than you are now.

Scrivener7

(58,095 posts)
47. Why does this anger you so much? The OP is obviously a general description of the current tenor of the news coverage
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 02:38 PM
14 hrs ago

of these two women. That kind of thing is posted here all the time.

You keep calling edhopper a troll for no reason. That's really nasty. Why are you doing that?

edhopper

(37,000 posts)
42. You don't seem to understand
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 01:57 PM
15 hrs ago

that my OP was not an actual quote, but an editorial comment aimed at the Media.

Traildogbob

(12,436 posts)
35. MAGA really
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 01:18 PM
16 hrs ago

Hate the fact she is so beautiful in RED. That’s their team color. She is hijacking it, like they did the American flag. And she is so damn smart, another attribute the RED KKKlan have not a shred of. They have made Red the color of stupid.
AOC is showing Red is not Dead.
Their “Babe” and focal point MTG, has turned sour on them. They still got the theater pole pumper, with squeeze boxes, Boobert and her bright red lip paint with a passion for poles that go boom and kill people. Lots of children.
AOC is a force. And media hate it.

Cha

(316,394 posts)
49. What? Who said that.. Bari Weiss? Kirk is Hate...
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 04:12 PM
13 hrs ago

AOC is DEI and Democracy.

So Fuck Off M$M as they have in my world since November 2002.

Buddyzbuddy

(2,043 posts)
54. It doesn't help when our own Democrats don't support her.
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 05:32 PM
11 hrs ago

She's willing to shake things up while the old guard doesn't support her for leadership positions. I won't name names but I'm sure you have an idea. It's like the Harper Valley P.T.A.. "Can't" is not part of her vocabulary and that's my kind of politician.

GiqueCee

(3,275 posts)
57. The lowlifes...
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 06:15 PM
11 hrs ago

... that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez a "kook" ARE the kooks, who offer nothing of substance or value to ANY conversation. Fuck 'em all. They, and their verbal vomit, disgust me.

Indyfan53

(504 posts)
58. Oligarchs own the media
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 07:29 PM
9 hrs ago

The billionaires who benefited from Orange fuck want to controll the narrative so the dumbfuck masses keep voting Republican

reACTIONary

(6,941 posts)
61. The so called "main stream media"? Could you be...
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 09:50 PM
7 hrs ago

.... a bit more specific? Maybe provide at least one quote? Maybe even a large number of such quotes, if you want to impune an entire institution.

reACTIONary

(6,941 posts)
63. No quotes? Which MSN service...
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 11:00 PM
6 hrs ago

.... called AOC a left wing kook?

Was this an opinion piece, or an actual news article?

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