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Wiz Imp

(8,789 posts)
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 06:31 PM 3 hrs ago

Miss USA & Miss Teen USA pageants identified by former pageant judge as "The Smoking Gun"

See this tik tok video from Steve Siebold:
https://www.tiktok.com/@speakerstevesiebold/video/7587471680574950711
Transcript:

When it comes to Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, the media is missing the smoking gun. Now, I've sat on this information for years, and I really didn't want to get into this because this is not in my job description, and it's very dangerous to come out this come out with this publicly. The smoking gun is Miss USA and Miss Teen USA, the pageantss, which Donald Trump owned for years. Now, how do I know? Because I was one of the judges in these pageants. I trained dozens and dozens of the winners and the runners up in public speaking to promote their platform. This is all I'm going to say about this. If you're in the media and you're looking for information, start with Billy Bush. Billy Bush hosted the MissUSA, Miss Teen USA multiple times. Nancy Odell is another one. And then go down the rabbit hole from there. There are people that know a lot more than those two, but start there. They're celebrities and start there. Go down the rabbit hole. And I think what you're going to find is going to be very, very upsetting. Don't call me. I'm not going to comment. I'm not going on TV and talking about this. This is very dangerous to sit on. If you decide to pursue this in the media, be very, very careful. These people are dangerous.


Hopefully there are some people willing to dig into this as Steve suggested.
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Miss USA & Miss Teen USA pageants identified by former pageant judge as "The Smoking Gun" (Original Post) Wiz Imp 3 hrs ago OP
He didn't really Greg_In_SF 3 hrs ago #1
nothing whatsoever stopdiggin 2 hrs ago #2
Get him under oath. (nt) Pinback 2 hrs ago #3
does he have anything to say ? stopdiggin 45 min ago #13
Misprision of a felony can be a crime. LudwigPastorius 1 hr ago #4
He could go to prosecutors and congress with this info IronLionZion 1 hr ago #5
That language sounds exactly like Trump's speech pattern.... seems fishy. nt Blasphemer 1 hr ago #6
James Arness as the Marshall Tetrachloride 1 hr ago #7
It's not his job to protect children? That's all of our job. Chickenshit. 33taw 1 hr ago #8
He's likely promoting a tell-all book. sop 1 hr ago #9
His modeling agency PikaBlue 1 hr ago #10
someone needs to crack the ndas. mopinko 6 min ago #16
Holy shit! Wowza! And Yup, you got it. Joinfortmill 58 min ago #11
Isn't Nancy ODell the one Trump talks about on tape ? JI7 51 min ago #12
In other words, ask someone else, or not Raven123 38 min ago #14
Bush family Papi Bush had a White House sex romp... Festivito 30 min ago #15

stopdiggin

(14,949 posts)
2. nothing whatsoever
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 07:00 PM
2 hrs ago

but we have this ..

"Now, I've sat on this information for years, and I really didn't want to get into this because this is not in my job description, and it's very dangerous to come out this come out with this publicly."

"Don't call me. I'm not going to comment."

But, then - here you are ... With your little titillation for TikTok screed ....
You were drunk dialing perhaps .. ?

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stopdiggin

(14,949 posts)
13. does he have anything to say ?
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 09:13 PM
45 min ago

other than , "They should look at this guy .. They should look at that guy .. "

But all we have here - so far at least - is just the self centered (and self interested?) mewlings of a butt hurt little man.
Shout out, "smoking gun !" - and promptly scurry back to pull the covers over one's head ...

LudwigPastorius

(14,074 posts)
4. Misprision of a felony can be a crime.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 08:16 PM
1 hr ago

Maybe Steve needs to be questioned by law enforcement.

IronLionZion

(50,750 posts)
5. He could go to prosecutors and congress with this info
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 08:22 PM
1 hr ago

instead of this social media tik tok BS

PikaBlue

(415 posts)
10. His modeling agency
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 08:59 PM
1 hr ago

Trump also started a "modeling" agency in the late 1990s. That business was shut down during his 2015 campaign when reporters started asking questions about it. I've always thought that he had a pipeline going: pageants to modeling agency to ? (definitely not big photo shoots). My aunt was a fashion model in the 1950s and early 1960s, in New York, employed by the number 1 modeling agency. She not only appeared in fashion magazines, but also on TV in commercials when they were shot live during a program. She appeared on the Gary Moore show to name one - along with Hope Lange. Trump's modeling agency never appeared to run as a legitimate agency. I'd like some sharp investigative reporter to dig up some info on that.

mopinko

(73,263 posts)
16. someone needs to crack the ndas.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 09:53 PM
6 min ago

pretty sure an nda doesnt protect u if u commit crimes. some smart lawyer needs to get them overturned.
still have to deal w the death threats, but…

JI7

(93,119 posts)
12. Isn't Nancy ODell the one Trump talks about on tape ?
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 09:08 PM
51 min ago

How he tried things with her but she wasn't into him. And he admitted and bragged about walking into underage girls getting undressed.

Raven123

(7,480 posts)
14. In other words, ask someone else, or not
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 09:21 PM
38 min ago

I honestly don’t know what this guy is trying to do other than a Pontius Pilate imitation

Festivito

(13,845 posts)
15. Bush family Papi Bush had a White House sex romp...
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 09:29 PM
30 min ago

Report in the newspaper. That was back in the time of ronald reagan.

Not wanting to testify in front of powerful people is understandable.

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