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LuckyCharms

(21,503 posts)
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:13 PM 1 hr ago

SOMETHING is going on in the market. Re: precious metals.

Silver has breached $80.00 an ounce, and it's expected to keep rising.

I know that China is halting exports of silver on 1/1/26 I believe, but I'm not convinced that this is the entire cause for this huge rise...

Gold is at about $4,550.

I don't know if some of this has to do with metals as perceived flight to safety, or what...

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SOMETHING is going on in the market. Re: precious metals. (Original Post) LuckyCharms 1 hr ago OP
I noticed this as well. Those of us below the top 1% are just held captive to the PTB forces... hlthe2b 1 hr ago #1
I've been stacking silver since it was $4.00 an ounce... LuckyCharms 1 hr ago #3
"hard crash"..... anciano 1 hr ago #8
Sell some...nobody has ever lost money taking profit😁 Melon 1 hr ago #14
I'm struggling with that decision... LuckyCharms 1 hr ago #16
Then I'd hold onto that. A lot of the gold we bought in the 60s in Thailand was high carat and low level design ... marble falls 31 min ago #27
Be back later. LuckyCharms 29 min ago #28
Thinking the U.S. dollar is losing value... Dan 1 hr ago #2
Yes. LuckyCharms 1 hr ago #4
10% over the last year. By design likely. It will erode further on rate drops. Melon 26 min ago #29
It's global data centers and electronics. Silver is a long time artificially suppressed price market Melon 1 hr ago #5
Do you think graphene will someday serve as a replacement for silver in LuckyCharms 1 hr ago #9
I really don't know. I only follow silver becomes of some Melon 1 hr ago #12
Good article from CBS LogDog75 1 hr ago #6
Yes, they say to hold no more than 5% of your portfolio in metals... LuckyCharms 1 hr ago #11
When you consider Bitcoin is at tens of thousands applegrove 1 hr ago #7
But then again, you can buy fractional bitcoin. LuckyCharms 1 hr ago #10
The difference is bitcoin is scarce Iwasthere 26 min ago #30
You can buy fractional silver and gold etf's. Melon 25 min ago #31
SILVER has strong industrial applications, especially in electronics-- Jack Valentino 1 hr ago #13
Have you considered stacking physical silver? LuckyCharms 1 hr ago #15
some more info re: gold/silver... ret5hd 1 hr ago #17
Yes, I'm just starting to read about China stopping silver exports on 1/1/26. LuckyCharms 1 hr ago #19
Peter Schiff with Kitco UpInArms 1 hr ago #18
Yes! I keep catching hints of this... LuckyCharms 1 hr ago #20
By the time the poors are aware of price movements superpatriotman 54 min ago #21
True... LuckyCharms 51 min ago #23
For those considering selling their gold: ret5hd 51 min ago #22
++++++++ Exactly right. LuckyCharms 50 min ago #24
I saw that this morning. I have a little horde of silver bits and pieces I've been saving to cash in and it looks like Vinca 49 min ago #25
"Percieved" is the key word. marble falls 45 min ago #26

hlthe2b

(112,675 posts)
1. I noticed this as well. Those of us below the top 1% are just held captive to the PTB forces...
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:15 PM
1 hr ago

LuckyCharms

(21,503 posts)
3. I've been stacking silver since it was $4.00 an ounce...
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:21 PM
1 hr ago

and this sudden price rise is freaking me out a little.

Then, look at the way bitcoin is being whipsawed.

Smells like crime and manipulation...

I think AI speculation is the only thing propping up stocks... I think we might be in for a hard crash.

anciano

(2,170 posts)
8. "hard crash".....
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:29 PM
1 hr ago

Highly likely, the current "tulip mania" cannot realistically continue much longer.

Melon

(998 posts)
14. Sell some...nobody has ever lost money taking profit😁
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:46 PM
1 hr ago

It may continue depending on demand versus industrial supply and will certainly set a new price floor. The issue with gold and silver is that the market is full of scammers and price pumpers at all times.

LuckyCharms

(21,503 posts)
16. I'm struggling with that decision...
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:50 PM
1 hr ago

A lot of mine was passed down, and it holds sentimental value.

marble falls

(70,614 posts)
27. Then I'd hold onto that. A lot of the gold we bought in the 60s in Thailand was high carat and low level design ...
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 03:34 PM
31 min ago

... the type of jewelry people in SE Asia buy as a savings account, and boy has it increased in value. Less than $40/oz back then!

But the good stuff, we're holding onto. Some "savings account stuff" we've sold for melt to get a modern piece. We do have a serious safe. It would two guys and a jackhammer to get it out.















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Melon

(998 posts)
5. It's global data centers and electronics. Silver is a long time artificially suppressed price market
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:23 PM
1 hr ago

Demand of industrial silver is outstripping supply. People have fled to gold and silver as a safe-haven. The availability of industrial silver is below what is required for next generation memory and gpu demand. The price is skyrocketing but the smelters are now not buying due to the price plus supply as everyone is selling. We’ll see what happens Monday in the market.

LuckyCharms

(21,503 posts)
9. Do you think graphene will someday serve as a replacement for silver in
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:30 PM
1 hr ago

industrial applications. I'm just now starting to read about this...

Melon

(998 posts)
12. I really don't know. I only follow silver becomes of some
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:42 PM
1 hr ago

Silver I own plus its impact on tech stocks. I’ll look into graphene. During periods of uncertainty, investments tend to flow into stable markets like heavy metals, plus the uptick in AI. Silver can just as easily fall quickly. Extreme price run ups in anything don’t tend to end well.

LogDog75

(1,067 posts)
6. Good article from CBS
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:28 PM
1 hr ago

Gold and silver prices are increasing due to the following:
Investors are moving money into gold as a safe haven rather than in currencies that are flat.
Softer monetary policies such as rate cutes .
Central banks are buying more gold
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gold-price-silver-whats-behind-the-surge/

I don't own gold or invest in it. The only silver I have is in the form of coins I collected when I was a teenager through my 30s. I don't consider them an investment because I just like the look and feel of them. For me, investing in precious metals is too risky because any change in the geopolitical landscape can spike or crash the precious metals very quickly.

LuckyCharms

(21,503 posts)
11. Yes, they say to hold no more than 5% of your portfolio in metals...
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:38 PM
1 hr ago

mainly as an inflation hedge.

applegrove

(130,038 posts)
7. When you consider Bitcoin is at tens of thousands
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:29 PM
1 hr ago

of dollars or more it makes more sense to buy gold at $4500.00

LuckyCharms

(21,503 posts)
10. But then again, you can buy fractional bitcoin.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:36 PM
1 hr ago

Personally, i don't touch crypto.

There's something to be said for investing in something you can hold in your hand. Something physical that you can touch, physical metals.

I don't like "paper" gold or silver. ie: stocks that give you shares in metals that you hold only electronically.

Can't even get a stock certificate these days for the stocks you own without paying for the cert and jumping through hoops. It's all electronic, and it's all manipulated.

Iwasthere

(3,484 posts)
30. The difference is bitcoin is scarce
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 03:40 PM
26 min ago

There will only be 21,000,000 bitcoin EVER! We are at over 19,000,000 mined right now. I started buying btc when it was $9000. I'm at 10x my money. I avoid all the wierd coins and cryptos. Bitcoins the one. Better than gold.

Jack Valentino

(4,288 posts)
13. SILVER has strong industrial applications, especially in electronics--
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:45 PM
1 hr ago

so it isn't merely an economic speculative vehicle--- but does have a rarity.


From my non-professional observation, it may be an an even better bet than gold...

I hope to be able to invest a little in silver ETFs in the coming year,
with perhaps a little in gold ETFs as well...

LuckyCharms

(21,503 posts)
15. Have you considered stacking physical silver?
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:48 PM
1 hr ago

Silver eagles...

90% junk coins, 1964 and earlier

Bars and rounds...

That's what I do. I like the whole collectability aspect of it mostly.

ret5hd

(22,150 posts)
17. some more info re: gold/silver...
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:56 PM
1 hr ago

this rise in the price of gold is despite the fact that Russia has sold China almost $2 billion (with a b) worth of gold in the last couple months...and that is just what has been reported. more than that is suspected.

so, despite the fact that Russia essentially dumping gold on the market (yes, I realize these sales aren't exactly "on the market", but they are filling a market that presumably would have been filled from other sources)...gold has gone from about $2600/oz to $4500/oz in about a year. Who knows what it may have been without these sales.

An aside: it seems to me China is hoarding gold for a big economic collapse. But that is an uneducated opinion.

Silver from about $30 to $80 in the same timeframe, but silver looks MUCH more parabolic in this one year timeframe, so I kinda think silver may "crash" back down to $50 or so.

anyway, just some idle thoughts.

LuckyCharms

(21,503 posts)
19. Yes, I'm just starting to read about China stopping silver exports on 1/1/26.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 03:00 PM
1 hr ago

This reduces worldwide supply, while demand remains status quo, or increases. Hence, it's at least a contributor to the price rise.

I haven't been following gold too much, but I'm going to research what China is doing with that...

UpInArms

(53,993 posts)
18. Peter Schiff with Kitco
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:59 PM
1 hr ago
https://www.kitco.com/news/article/2025-12-24/peter-schiff-says-fed-reversal-inflation-clash-trump-and-silver-surge-point

Schiff said the sharp move in silver prices above $66 an ounce reflects years of suppressed pricing finally giving way to monetary and supply-driven demand. He pointed to the break above $50 as a decisive technical event, noting that “there’d be no more resistance” once silver had reached $50.

Looking ahead to 2026, Schiff characterized $100 silver as “a very realistic target,” adding that prices could move higher if monetary instability accelerates. He also expects gold to reach at least $5,000, noting that silver’s growth often signals deeper stress in the financial system.

LuckyCharms

(21,503 posts)
20. Yes! I keep catching hints of this...
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 03:03 PM
1 hr ago

Meaning...that once silver broke a certain suppressed price resistance, it's off to the races.

LuckyCharms

(21,503 posts)
23. True...
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 03:15 PM
51 min ago

But I've been watching it every morning for decades, so I've been aware, but I'm too poor to buy more!

ret5hd

(22,150 posts)
22. For those considering selling their gold:
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 03:14 PM
51 min ago

I read something a long time ago that has always stuck with me. I will paraphrase:

Gold is NOT a way to get rich.
Gold is a way to move a portion of your wealth from one side of an economic crises to the other side. That is all.

That is why I believe in holding ones gold/silver unless you have a real need for it like RIGHT NOW. If you die holding gold/silver/etc, pass it on to whoever with the above advice.

Vinca

(53,262 posts)
25. I saw that this morning. I have a little horde of silver bits and pieces I've been saving to cash in and it looks like
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 03:17 PM
49 min ago

now might be a good time. Sadly, I cashed in the gold stash during a previous high. If anyone wonders, it's stuff I picked up at yard sales and found in a recycling shed at the town dump so it's not like I have a pile of Tiffany jewelry laying around the house.

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