Taylor Swift Moves Towards Maga

[SamuelTheThird]

I know she has a lot of very devoted fans here, but she didn't make a peep about ICE using her songs in videos. All these other artists who were similiarly used spoke out adamantly against it.

With her bf she was trying to get a new market segment including MAGA. If she's anything she's extremely calculated.

Here she is all chummy with Trumpers-

https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/comments/1nk8ljg/taylors_affiliations_with_maga_in_one_thread/

And let me add- billionaires need to be taxed out of existence!

[mahatmakanejeeves]

1. If you can't believe what you read in a rando post at reddit, what can you believe? NT

[SamuelTheThird]

2. If you can't dispute what's presented with facts, make a snarky response

What is presented is documented

[jmbar2]

3. Be careful about stirring up the Mahatmakanejeeves

A snarky force to be reckoned with.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

5. I think the weather is getting to me. It's been cold and damp and dreary, with no end in sight.

But getting back to the topic at hand, the thread at reddit ST3 linked to was locked. Possibly that was because the post was all about the people in the vicinity of Taylor Swift, and not Taylor Swift herself. I guess. I gave up pretty quickly.

I could easily find a post at reddit claiming that being vaccinated will give me cancer and that taking ivermectin will cure me of COVID-19.

Well, ST3, why should I believe a reddit post about Taylor Swift the people in the vicinity of Taylor Swift any more than I would believe one dispensing medical advice?

Happy holidays and happy new year, both of you.

[SamuelTheThird]

7. It's locked because it's from 3 months ago, nothing to do with content

The poster gives names, anyone can go check up on them. You're being disingenuous. This isn't a subjective claim of medical results

[Lifeafter70]

10. There is an article in The Guardian addressing this

Even tho she is not maga her silence speaks volumes. I tried to include a link but not sure how to do it. It's from last November. Not all of her fans are children and some have questioned why she has not spoken out about this. She has done so in the past when both political parties have used her music.

[FarPoint]

21. Hahahahaha

Keep on cruising.

[JI7]

4. I see nothing showing she is becoming MAGA

So she hangs out with wife/girlfriend of someone that works with her husband and that means she is MAGA ?

She doesn't need to always speak out. She is a pop singer. Most of her fans are young girls including children.

We already know where she stands politically and she had recieved a bunch of hate for it. She doesn't respond to that either.

Let her do what she does instead of forcing her to perform for internet warriors.

[SamuelTheThird]

6. She has no integrity

She only speaks out when she thinks it can benefit her career.

People with a lot less power than her speak out.

https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-singers-ice-music-11199783

If some Gestapo was using MY music in its propaganda, I sure as hell would feel obligated to speak out.

[FascismIsDeath]

12. She doesn't need to do anything to benefit her career. She is the biggest pop star on the planet.

[SamuelTheThird]

49. You're right, she doesn't HAVE to

But yet she does.

[FascismIsDeath]

54. No, she doesn't. She never had to endorse anyone for President. She didn't have to endorse Phil Bredesen either.

That didn't do shit for her career, if anything it caused her a lot of drama.

You've provided zero proof for your claims or anything that actually adds a drop of validity to your criticism. There is a reason this thread isn't going well for you.

[JI7]

14. This is bs. There were little girls in the UK killed at a Taylor Swift event

She isn't running for political office.

Internet warriors have no integrity.

[Polybius]

59. What's wrong with celebs staying silent?

I like it better when they don't mix politics in with everything.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

8. So?

So what if it's true, which I don't believe it is. What's it to you? What kind of responses are you hoping for? Why so mad at Taylor?

[SamuelTheThird]

9. What's it to me?

lol What's it to you why I post something? We can do a recursive loop with that sort of query.

Anyway, I see people 'glazing' a calculating billionaire, I am going to comment on it. Sorry if that bothers you.

[Iggo]

22. Okay, that's enough.

[betsuni]

50. Caricature of liberals mindlessly worshipping elite wealthy celebrities: we're supposed to get REAL MAD.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

52. Oh is that what it is?

I thought maybe someone was worshipping the unattainable Taylor Swift and getting REAL MAD.

[FascismIsDeath]

11. She has been getting hate messages and death threats from groyper's and other alt right groups.

She doesn't owe anyone more political action than she feels like taking. If she wants to lay low on that front, thats is her business. I know she has needed bullet proof shielding at some of the games she has been attending. The woman is settling down and starting a family so I imagine that is on her mind too.

There is no indication she has changed views on LGBT rights or women's rights. She is still constantly giving huge dollar amounts to food banks and worthwhile charities. She has fed more hungry people than you or I ever will.

That reddit thread looks about as dumb as the right wing BS I see when people are trying to piece together an idiotic conspiracy theory. I know I feel much dumber after having read it.

[mopinko]

24. yup. i'd keep my head down if i were her, too.

that’s a lot of stress, for what?

[SamuelTheThird]

47. Regular everyday people get death threats too. ALL THE TIME.

Somehow all the other artists spoke out against ICE using their music, but she doesn't want controversy for career reasons. She can afford the best security in the world

[FascismIsDeath]

55. And? Regular everyday people get cancer scares all the... wait excuse me... ALL THE TIME.

That doesn't make it any less scary just because it happens all the... wait, gotta do it again... ALL THE TIME.

Charlie Kirk could afford the best security in the world... what is he up to these days I wonder?

She has a lot of reasons to keep her head down and focus on her personal life. She owes you nothing.

You've not made a single valid point in this entire thread.

Your criticism is off base. Any arguments you were hoping to make, you lost them.

You should just delete this thread, it belong in the trash.

[orangecrush]

13. Bovine excrement

[betsuni]

15. These pretzels are making me thirsty.

[Captain Zero]

16. When you get a poke, you take a peep.

You don't go staring at the Sun!!

[xmas74]

17. That's been discussed and shown as mostly false

The rumors were recently proven to have been started by overseas troll farms. I think it was The Guardian who stated it. As to her music-she's told them in the past to stop and they don't. She's always been a big target of Trump's.
Also, the other thing always mentioned is that supposedly Kelce is MAGA. He was the first white guy in the NFL to take a knee in support of his black teammates. He advertised for Pfizer and the covid vaccine during the pandemic. He and his brother Jason both made it clear during their careers that they not only support the LGBTQIA community but that if a gay player were playing on their team they'd support and befriend him. Jason's wife stated that they weren't allowed to discuss politics due to their contracts but that the entire family has always voted Democratic.

I'm not a Swiftie. I don't really listen to her music but in live in the KC area and have heard the crap said about her. It's pretty nasty at times. As to running around with Mahomes- sports wives. She's learning the game, learning the area and what to expect, though I honestly think Travis is about done. I fully expect him to retire at the end of the season.

[BlueTsunami2018]

18. She doesn't need to be MAGA to not be on your side.

She’s a billionaire pop star and very brand conscious. She’s not going to do anything risky in that area. After all, none of this has any effect on her whatsoever. There’s no reason for her to care.

[DoBW]

19. nice try

[Ellipsis]

20. I call bullshit. Naive fuckin' bullshit.

[Takket]

23. she literally endorsed Harris..........

and you'll forgive me if I say the OP reeks of a right-wing trolling attempt

[FascismIsDeath]

25. And Biden before that. And Phil Bredesen (Dem who ran against Blackburn) before that.

And I agree with your suspicions on the OP.

[Coolgoober]

26. I'm With You Takket

[niyad]

28. Some people like to stir excrement. They hope we don't have long memories.

[GP6971]

40. Oh, but we do have long memories!

[niyad]

41. Yes, we do!

[demmiblue]

60. +1

This one has been on my sus radar for awhile. 🧐

[Coolgoober]

31. Not To Mention

All you have to do is listen to her (Swift), she's not a hater!

[Maru Kitteh]

39. Nailed it. nt

[SamuelTheThird]

48. Yes, Im right wing because I think she should fucking criticize ICE for using her music

Makes sense.

[ms liberty]

65. So you demand she produce art that complies with your specifications, because well, YOU want it

Yea, art doesn't really work like that, and neither do artists.

You want a song about ICE on demand? Write, record, produce and release one yourself. Without AI.

[demmiblue]

61. +1

[niyad]

27. Oh my, are we bored this evening?

[oasis]

29. No MAGA stench on Taylor. Take it from me I

can smell a MAGAt a mile away. 😉

[NBachers]

30. Have you read anything about her sending money to MS13?

[Prairie Gates]

32. This is a deeply manipulative and false post

Readers would be best to ignore this nonsense.

[niyad]

42. But I can always use something to sharpen my claws!

[True Dough]

33. Taylor Swift hasn't donated every cent of her wealth to Democratic causes

Therefore she is failing the left!

I am doing it right, OP?

[H2O Man]

34. THE SKY IS FALLING!

A crisis in faith!

If the OP is serious, I'd put it just below the Marx brothers for comic genius.

[ZDU]

35. Powerful women will always be attacked...

Oh hell, let's simply face it.... people will always be attacked simply for being feminine or presenting feminine traits. Powerful women threaten some people.
(Don't attempt to engage me. I'm not in an argumentative space.)
Peace

[Coolgoober]

36. NICE ZDU

[ZDU]

38. TY CG

[SamuelTheThird]

45. This is a discussion forum last I checked

You don't get to just throw an accusation of misogyny and not expect a response. lol

I think criticizing a calculating billionaire is fair game. Imputing some sort of "hatred of women' to me is laughable, particularly since I previously praised (in contrast to Swift) Billie Eilish for actually criticizing billionaires like zuckerburg to their faces.

[rubbersole]

58. As a discussion forum...

..can we discuss the water temperature in the shallow end of the kiddie pool?

[flvegan]

37. Taylor Swift needed a "new market segment" in MAGA? Doubtful.

I don't think I've ever heard a word or chord of her music, nor could I care less about her dating escapades. However, even I know she's the most popular music person on the planet (or something like that). I doubt she's wanting for what one might consider an untapped market segment.

For all anyone knows, she's been quietly funneling millions of dollars to democrats. Just because someone isn't taking credit or blathering endlessly about it on social media doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I'm not defending anyone nor their billionaire status. I just think this is a bad take.

[SamuelTheThird]

46. 'For all anyone knows, she's been quietly funneling millions of dollars to democrats'

You mean Swift is involved in dark money contributions? Because otherwise it is public record

[flvegan]

56. LOL. Yup, I'm done here.

Some discussions aren't worth the effort.

[Dear_Prudence]

43. She's avoiding the Streisand effect? nt

[BigMin28]

44. Perhaps

Ms.Swift let her attorneys speak for her. She is a smart woman.

[Doodley]

51. This is a right-wing talking point. Complete and utter BS.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

53. Yes.

I remember Piggy's enlightening and riveting post on his plagiarized twitter:

"I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT!"

So mature and presidential!

MAGAts just hate successful, talented, beautiful women they can't buy or control. Boo hoo.

[Melon]

57. They wish this would happen.

[demmiblue]

62. You Need To Calm Down

[ms liberty]

66. Excellent reply choice!

And includes DU's most favorite sign ever, lol!

[ThreeNoSeep]

63. I question the motivation of this post

Ignore is my next move.

[DoBW]

64. smell that? ..that maga sh*t smell?

smell it?

[SocialDemocrat61]

68. This Taylor Swift?

[Oneironaut]

69. I really don't think so and hope not, but, I hope you continue to post.

Also I agree with your last line.