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CoopersDad

(3,276 posts)
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 10:27 AM 2 hrs ago

Gavin Newsom warned that billionaires will 'permanently relocate' if California wealth tax passes



Read the letter celebrity lawyer Alex Spiro wrote to Gavin Newsom, warning that his clients will 'permanently relocate' if California wealth tax passes

Jack Newsham,Madeline Berg

A proposed billionaire tax in California has the wealthy threatening to flee, according to a letter written by power lawyer Alex Spiro to Gov. Gavin Newsom.

In a December 11 letter that was obtained by Business Insider, Spiro lays out his opposition to the proposed tax on behalf of his clients, whom he calls "California residents who would be subject to the proposed Billionaire Tax Act."

"It will trigger an exodus of capital and innovation from California," Spiro wrote. "Our clients have made clear they will permanently relocate if subjected to this tax."

The measure proposes that California residents with assets exceeding $1 billion be subject to a one-time 5% tax on the value of their assets. If the proposal receives enough signatures, it will appear on the state ballot in November 2026. If passed, it would apply retroactively to all California residents as of January 1, 2026.


Among Sprio' clients are the Kardashians, Jay-Z, and Elon Musk

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/read-letter-celebrity-lawyer-alex-204649466.html
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Gavin Newsom warned that billionaires will 'permanently relocate' if California wealth tax passes (Original Post) CoopersDad 2 hrs ago OP
Don't let the door slap you on the ass on your way out, parasites. Ocelot II 1 hr ago #1
You beat me to it SheltieLover 32 min ago #27
I guess that will open housing for people who pay taxes. NT Gore1FL 1 hr ago #2
Newsom's response should be: CousinIT 1 hr ago #3
Newsom dweller 1 hr ago #8
Ugh karin_sj 1 hr ago #23
Ugh. CousinIT 33 min ago #26
Better get the nose clips ready. BannonsLiver 21 min ago #30
They would have to move in the next day to avoid the retroactive tax? newdeal2 1 hr ago #4
The BILLIONAIRE Class have become the WHINER class. ProudMNDemocrat 1 hr ago #5
It is called greed Stargazer99 1 hr ago #6
I think they should whine louder and more publicly EYESORE 9001 1 hr ago #20
They always have been Johonny 1 hr ago #22
Make it a National Law, save SS Law. multigraincracker 1 hr ago #7
Yes! SheltieLover 30 min ago #28
"So, what's the bad news?" nt Buns_of_Fire 1 hr ago #9
Good Riddance! NT Daigan 1 hr ago #10
I honestly think a majority would gladly have the Kardashians (and of course, Musk) depart California... hlthe2b 1 hr ago #11
Contribute to the common good or goodbye. C_U_L8R 1 hr ago #12
Money hoarders UpInArms 1 hr ago #13
"Sometimes the coppice needs to be cleared lest it becomes a hedgerow." Hugin 1 hr ago #14
Hey MAGA, it's not the immigrants who are ruining America! It's the billionaires! Initech 1 hr ago #15
Bye.. .... Lovie777 1 hr ago #16
The state of California's economists have projected that this tax would result in a net loss of revenue Jose Garcia 1 hr ago #17
Link? nt drmeow 17 min ago #32
New York Times: Jose Garcia 1 min ago #34
Feels like a poison pill measure designed to get GOP Johonny 1 hr ago #18
They are his peeps though Blue Full Moon 1 hr ago #19
Good riddance, assholes! karin_sj 1 hr ago #21
California will be better without them. spanone 59 min ago #24
They won't leave. intheflow 40 min ago #25
As long as they take Zuckerberg with them Retrograde 28 min ago #29
Wealth Taxes should be at the Federal level not State level walkingman 18 min ago #31
Spiro is a F'ing con man. haele 16 min ago #33

dweller

(27,799 posts)
8. Newsom
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 10:49 AM
1 hr ago

While Newsom has said he is against the tax and would "fight" it, he would not have the ability to veto it if it were to pass as a ballot measure.

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karin_sj

(1,321 posts)
23. Ugh
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:22 AM
1 hr ago

There are many things I like about Newsom, but not his over the top support for the tech industry.

CousinIT

(12,190 posts)
26. Ugh.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:55 AM
33 min ago

I hope he doesn't run in 28, and if he does, he isn't the nominee.

People have numerous objections to some of his policies.

Me, I'm a "vote blue, no matter who" type, and have had to hold my nose, but MANY others are not.

newdeal2

(4,714 posts)
4. They would have to move in the next day to avoid the retroactive tax?
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 10:33 AM
1 hr ago

I doubt this measure will hold up, at least in the way it is currently written. Also, why aren't his clients publicly speaking up if they're so proud of their position?

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,578 posts)
5. The BILLIONAIRE Class have become the WHINER class.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 10:35 AM
1 hr ago

1% tax on their immense wealth is NOT a fucking hardship!

Geez Louise!

EYESORE 9001

(29,434 posts)
20. I think they should whine louder and more publicly
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:20 AM
1 hr ago

The great unwashed masses will certainly understand and identify with their plight.

hlthe2b

(112,694 posts)
11. I honestly think a majority would gladly have the Kardashians (and of course, Musk) depart California...
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 10:55 AM
1 hr ago

I'd personally like all of the above to leave the US. I don't know who would take them and despite the obscene wealth in UAE (and UAE willingness to look the other way with re: to an Muslim sensitivities for the wealthiest among them in Dubai), I doubt they'd be too happy there either.

UpInArms

(54,000 posts)
13. Money hoarders
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:01 AM
1 hr ago

Can never share and never have enough for their tiny shriveled souls

ETA

They should be taxed out of existence

Hugin

(37,350 posts)
14. "Sometimes the coppice needs to be cleared lest it becomes a hedgerow."
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:01 AM
1 hr ago

- said with my best Chauncey Gardiner voice.




Jose Garcia

(3,421 posts)
17. The state of California's economists have projected that this tax would result in a net loss of revenue
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:08 AM
1 hr ago

Jose Garcia

(3,421 posts)
34. New York Times:
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 12:27 PM
1 min ago

California’s Legislative Analyst’s Office and Department of Finance have estimated that the state “would collect tens of billions of dollars from the wealth tax” in onetime payments. But they added that state income tax revenues would also fall over the long term by hundreds of millions a year if billionaires decided to move away.

A spokesman for Mr. Newsom said he continued to oppose “state-level wealth taxes” because they encouraged those who would be affected to move to another state.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/26/technology/california-wealth-tax-page-thiel.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

Johonny

(25,314 posts)
18. Feels like a poison pill measure designed to get GOP
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:19 AM
1 hr ago

Turnout up so they hold onto a few seats . . .

One time tax? Sounds stupid and counter productive.

karin_sj

(1,321 posts)
21. Good riddance, assholes!
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:20 AM
1 hr ago

I really don't think it will be the exodus that this idiot is predicting, and if those particular billionaires leave, it'll be good for California. Maybe they'll stop trying to create their own private "tech friendly" cities here when the current resident don't want it. I'm so sick of their greedy, selfish ways. They have more money than most of us can even imagine and yet they are never satisfied. F 'em!

intheflow

(29,974 posts)
25. They won't leave.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:47 AM
40 min ago

I mean, maybe Thiel and a few others, but it certainly won't be a mass exodus. Where they gonna go? You think the majority of Tech Bros who make under a billion are going to want to relocate to Texas or rural Kansas or cold and snowy NYC, with its socialist mayor-elect? They could move to another country, but then their products could then be subject to shitty tarriffs. Maybe they could move to Hawaii, but that would drive overall production costs up. The US Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico will have too many black and brown people for them, and of course, who wants to relocate their business to Hurricane Row? It's empty bullying, if you ask me.

Retrograde

(11,372 posts)
29. As long as they take Zuckerberg with them
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 12:00 PM
28 min ago

who is building a 12 (at last count) house compound in my town.

walkingman

(10,285 posts)
31. Wealth Taxes should be at the Federal level not State level
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 12:10 PM
18 min ago

Arguments for nationalizing wealth taxes:

1. Preventing "Millionaire Flight": State-level wealth taxes may cause top talent and entrepreneurs to move to less regressive states, making national policy more effective.
2. Addressing Economic Inequality: Federal taxes are seen as a necessary tool for distributive justice to curb extreme wealth concentration.
3.Targeting Unrealized Gains: A national policy could address taxes on paper wealth or assets, which are difficult to tax effectively at a state level.
4. Uniformity: Federal, rather than state, rules would eliminate loopholes for the ultra-rich.

haele

(15,050 posts)
33. Spiro is a F'ing con man.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 12:12 PM
16 min ago

His job as he sees it is to maximize wealth for his clients so he can scrape more fees off the top.
Most of his clients wouldn't see any difference between a 1% wealth tax and the fees he would have charged them to "invest" that 1%.
Not only that, they won't realize any benefit from that 1% he moved around as an investment for them -

" Oh, sorry - market correction, you lost $2m last quarter, but you're going to make it back up and then some if I move you over to this fund - another $100k, please..."


With that $1M a year per $1B tax -er - investment in California, they can invest that money in things that make the state a better place to live and do business in.

Instead of just further lining the pockets of already wealthy money managers.
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