Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Swede

(38,261 posts)
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 08:40 AM 4 hrs ago

Brett Kavanaugh has 2 different opinions on "Kavanaugh Stops"

Perhaps his love of beer?


1 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Brett Kavanaugh has 2 different opinions on "Kavanaugh Stops" (Original Post) Swede 4 hrs ago OP
Two different issues. Ms. Toad 3 hrs ago #1

Ms. Toad

(38,142 posts)
1. Two different issues.
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 09:50 AM
3 hrs ago

The stops most be brief and investigative. All he did was to expand the basis of the Terry stop to include ethnicity.

Just like a Terry stop, the stop must be brief and investigative. The case did not expand what is permitted to happen after the stop - if the investigation creates enough evidence to justify more action.

So from a legal perspective, as to the stop itself, he is correct.

Unfortunately, from the perspective of ICE, they have taken it as a license to do more - and it will take a court case to see how far the court will go as to what is legally allowed after the stop.

So his speaking out may be an indication that when that case comes the outcome may be different. But since the courts weren't built for rapid response, and entities that are aren't interested in curbing ICE way too many people will be kidnapped and brutalized before this madness stops.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Brett Kavanaugh has 2 dif...