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moonshinegnomie

(4,024 posts)
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 07:01 PM Jan 2026

got banned from a so called left wing facebook group for being a "right wing chud"

all because I pointed out that the democrats arent fascists and voting for a third party helps get morons like trump win.

Oh no how will I handle the shame

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got banned from a so called left wing facebook group for being a "right wing chud" (Original Post) moonshinegnomie Jan 2026 OP
I think you will survive. LoisB Jan 2026 #1
Sadly, there's a lot of that thinking on the left nowadays. W_HAMILTON Jan 2026 #2
It's not new The Revolution Jan 2026 #24
Sounds like Eugene had no understanding of "progress" RandomNumbers Jan 2026 #26
Damn Stalinists! marble falls Jan 2026 #3
Far left is anti liberal. Ideologically they are mire aligned with the right wing JI7 Jan 2026 #4
Not acceptable to denigrate any segment of the liberal coalition LearnedHand Jan 2026 #9
could you please name one or two of these far leftists? ret5hd Jan 2026 #10
The Green Party and Cenk JI7 Jan 2026 #11
A perfect example is Jimmy Dore AZJonnie Jan 2026 #14
Pat Buchanan mirrored him in the 90's Polybius Jan 2026 #21
I'll bite Polybius Jan 2026 #20
Nicolas Maduro? Polybius Jan 2026 #22
They certainly are a gift to the Republican Party. kerry-is-my-prez Jan 2026 #27
It's a heavy burden! 🥰❤️🫂 QueerDuck Jan 2026 #5
i dont have an issue with primaring democrats moonshinegnomie Jan 2026 #8
And many don't.. and that's what too many Cha Jan 2026 #12
I'll never forget, nor forgive... those who encouraged a LEAVE IT BLANK strategy. QueerDuck Jan 2026 #16
Pity. I've always felt it was better to replace a Republican with a Democrat... QueerDuck Jan 2026 #15
So what was going on in THEIR discussion that your comment was considered "right wing?" hlthe2b Jan 2026 #6
they basically called every top democratic contender a fascist moonshinegnomie Jan 2026 #7
They sound Horribly brainwashed. Cha Jan 2026 #13
Well, that blanket approach is certainly easier than, y'know, checking candidates' records . . . hatrack Jan 2026 #23
In 2004, DU's own polls had Dennis Kucinich as the shoe-in Dem nominee Simeon Salus Jan 2026 #17
There have been wars going on here during every election. kerry-is-my-prez Jan 2026 #28
"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party Ping Tung Jan 2026 #18
It's easier to advocate for perfect than to work for good. haele Jan 2026 #19
Could be foreign infiltraters or fake BoycottTwitter Jan 2026 #25
Lol Faux pas Jan 2026 #29

W_HAMILTON

(10,340 posts)
2. Sadly, there's a lot of that thinking on the left nowadays.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 07:06 PM
Jan 2026

There's been a large swath of voters on the left that have been misled into thinking that """fighting"" for something you are never able to achieve is better than incremental progress.

This mindset is why we have been losing elections.

The Revolution

(897 posts)
24. It's not new
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 08:58 PM
Jan 2026

"It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it."
-Eugene V. Debs

RandomNumbers

(19,166 posts)
26. Sounds like Eugene had no understanding of "progress"
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 09:08 PM
Jan 2026

which, weirdly, is the base of "progressive", but today's "progressives" seem more interested in radical change, all or nothing, than making progress.

AZJonnie

(3,710 posts)
14. A perfect example is Jimmy Dore
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 04:47 AM
Jan 2026

He'd be a so-far-left-they're-almost-right type JI7 could use as a for-instance.

Not many actual politicians that are like this, 'cept Bernie sometimes walks a fine line.

Some of the people who interrupted Kamala's rallies to yell at her about Palestine would fit into this description, too, i.e. actually are "radical left", and they (have been led to) think Democrats are just as terrible and corrupt as Republicans.

The people the OP describes are out there, for sure, and I've had discussions with some. I believe the OP's account of events as that could totally happen if you stumbled into one of their groups.

Polybius

(21,913 posts)
21. Pat Buchanan mirrored him in the 90's
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 11:09 AM
Jan 2026

He was so far-right he bounced back to the left. Super pro-union, anti NAFTA, anti-war, and anti-Israel.

kerry-is-my-prez

(10,289 posts)
27. They certainly are a gift to the Republican Party.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 09:13 PM
Jan 2026

These are the same morons who voted for Trump twice because they got their “panties in a bunch.” They are responsible for Dubya getting enough votes to steal the election from Gore and they also brought us Trump twice. They are also responsible for more pollution and climate change.

QueerDuck

(1,740 posts)
5. It's a heavy burden! 🥰❤️🫂
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 07:22 PM
Jan 2026

I'm always disappointed to see how many people encourage primarying incumbent Democrats and voting third party.

moonshinegnomie

(4,024 posts)
8. i dont have an issue with primaring democrats
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 08:21 PM
Jan 2026

as long as you dont vote 3rd party in the general. IMHO there are some dems that need to be primaried.

Cha

(319,178 posts)
12. And many don't.. and that's what too many
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 04:21 AM
Jan 2026

did in 2016.. "Vote 3rd party in the General".

QueerDuck

(1,740 posts)
16. I'll never forget, nor forgive... those who encouraged a LEAVE IT BLANK strategy.
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 08:46 AM
Jan 2026

Supposedly it was "only for the primaries" but in the end, by encouraging people to disengage and not support the party candidate, they end up not showing up to support the actual nominee. They have no "skin-in-the-game" (so to speak) and are not invested in the outcome, emotionally or intellectually. In the end, the "uncommitted" and "leave-it-blank" advocates were hurting Democrats... and I believe it was intentional. It was as idiotic a move as the "Defund-the-Police" insanity.

QueerDuck

(1,740 posts)
15. Pity. I've always felt it was better to replace a Republican with a Democrat...
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 06:57 AM
Jan 2026

rather than spending time replacing a Democrat with a Democrat. Or instead of wasting time trying to blood-up and deplete the campaign funds of an incumbent so that they can be more easily defeated by a Republican challenger. Primarying Democrats for vanity and purity purposes is a luxury that we cannot afford.

hlthe2b

(114,014 posts)
6. So what was going on in THEIR discussion that your comment was considered "right wing?"
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 07:35 PM
Jan 2026

I don't get it...

hatrack

(64,915 posts)
23. Well, that blanket approach is certainly easier than, y'know, checking candidates' records . . .
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 08:47 PM
Jan 2026

Simeon Salus

(1,638 posts)
17. In 2004, DU's own polls had Dennis Kucinich as the shoe-in Dem nominee
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 10:12 AM
Jan 2026

Not everything out of every Democrat's mouth is golden all the time.

Democratic Underground has been a successful platform for 25 years because it's a left-wing but realistic forum.

Reflexively hating those we disagree with really isn't our shtick.

That's Facebook's.

kerry-is-my-prez

(10,289 posts)
28. There have been wars going on here during every election.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 09:17 PM
Jan 2026

People who refused to support Hillary. “The Boys.”

Ping Tung

(4,370 posts)
18. "I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 10:38 AM
Jan 2026
"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." --Thomas Jefferson to Francis Hopkinson, 1789.

haele

(15,412 posts)
19. It's easier to advocate for perfect than to work for good.
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 10:43 AM
Jan 2026

Last edited Fri Jan 2, 2026, 02:04 PM - Edit history (1)

Lots of people like the cache of being a political mover and shaker, but don't really want to do the work or the thinking needed for actual governance.
Throw money and bumper sticker slogans at the problem, and it should fix itself, just like with sports teams and on TV shows...
On edit, WTF spellcheck? Typing this post quickly on my phone while waiting to pick up my spouse, and it corrects a finger slip to a slur?

BoycottTwitter

(116 posts)
25. Could be foreign infiltraters or fake
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 09:05 PM
Jan 2026

Last edited Sun Jan 4, 2026, 09:53 PM - Edit history (1)

Russia has a history of trying to become admins to groups on both political parties.

In addition Elon Musk prior to 2024 worked to promote wedge issues to divide Democrats since the Trump campaign realized they won't get many new supporters, only existing ones.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/11/15/republican-ads-false-flag/

Or non-pay-wall: https://archive.is/k3mKE

One thing I've been realizing is we should do all we can to increase energy and enthusiasm to get more people to vote Democrat. Make people proud and happy to be a Democrat!

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