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dalton99a

(92,843 posts)
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 09:56 AM Jan 2

Tesla loses title as world's biggest electric vehicle maker as sales fall for second year in a row

https://apnews.com/article/tesla-sales-musk-trump-deliveries-robotaxi-6d60715babde97b3b1a8e2416f4065ca

Tesla loses title as world’s biggest electric vehicle maker as sales fall for second year in a row
Updated 8:57 AM CST, January 2, 2026

NEW YORK (AP) — Tesla lost its crown as the world’s bestselling electric vehicle maker on Friday as a customer revolt over Elon Musk’s right-wing politics and stiff overseas competition pushed sales down for a second year in a row.

Tesla said that it delivered 1.64 million vehicles in 2025, down 9% from a year earlier.

Chinese rival BYD, which sold 2.26 million vehicles last year, is now the biggest EV maker.

For the fourth quarter, sales totaled 418,227, falling short of the 440,000 that analysts polled by FactSet expected. The sales total was impacted by the expiration of a $7,500 tax credit that was phased out by the Trump administration at the end of September.

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Tesla loses title as world's biggest electric vehicle maker as sales fall for second year in a row (Original Post) dalton99a Jan 2 OP
Now that Musk is thoroughly back in bed with Trump, they will get even worse. SSJVegeta Jan 2 #1
We need to send Elon to Mars on a Space X rocket. Initech Jan 2 #31
Good, keep up the pressure! Join a Tesla takedown near you every Saturday! Blues Heron Jan 2 #2
I hate to ForgedCrank Jan 2 #20
I hate to break it to you it's not good when Nazi musk wins Blues Heron Jan 2 #26
I hate to ForgedCrank Jan 2 #27
When you throw up nazi salutes, you're probably a nazi EdmondDantes_ Jan 2 #29
This is the ForgedCrank Jan 2 #34
No it is Not. Please speak for yourself. Cha Jan 2 #38
Yes, it is. ForgedCrank Jan 2 #40
No, you're wrong. Cha Jan 2 #41
Ok ForgedCrank Jan 2 #42
Musk is a a motherfucking nazi. A white-supremacist nazi eugenics FANBOY. Maru Kitteh Jan 2 #35
Noe of ForgedCrank Jan 2 #37
Yeah, TY for "breaking" that... somebody Cha Jan 2 #39
China isn't communist. JI7 Jan 2 #28
Ummm, China Greg_In_SF Jan 2 #32
Whatever you say ForgedCrank Jan 2 #33
Tesla is becoming the new Ralf Nader , multigraincracker Jan 2 #3
Everything Trump touches dies. nt doc03 Jan 2 #4
How unfortunate Coldwater Jan 2 #5
That's what we shout out every time we see any Tesla: Wednesdays Jan 2 #7
They are too expensive to insure. Johonny Jan 2 #6
Looks like he's not getting that trillion dollar bonus Diraven Jan 2 #8
yeah, he's never gonna hit those targets. good. mopinko Jan 2 #21
Tesla would be doing even worse if Chinese EVs were allowed in the country tariff free. Better tech at lower cost. dutch777 Jan 2 #9
That Chongqing New Years drone and light show Johonny Jan 2 #12
Interesting. I've been seeing more Teslas than in the year before the Musk DOGE debacle backlash hlthe2b Jan 2 #10
and that trend will continue. The damage is done. themaguffin Jan 2 #11
That would still make them the largest manufacturer in the US. Auggie Jan 2 #13
I thought this was about sales worldwide Keepthesoulalive Jan 2 #16
And, this is only Greg_In_SF Jan 2 #17
Excellent point Auggie Jan 2 #19
I considered buying an EV before the results of the 2024 election, but it would not have been a Tesla Martin Eden Jan 2 #14
I brought a hybrid also kimbutgar Jan 2 #18
The hideous Tesla Cybertruck is called a SWASTICAR by many Martin Eden Jan 2 #22
I like "DEPLOREAN" JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2 #30
if he never sells another car it would it me fine rampartd Jan 2 #15
FAFO on the tax credit Muskrat. That $7,500 was driving a lot of sales of his EVs. Ol Janx Spirit Jan 2 #23
It's not just politics, they're shit cars too. flvegan Jan 2 #24
Should lose... 2naSalit Jan 2 #25
Both Tesla and BYD EVs are probably on the same level as far as technology goes. Aussie105 Jan 2 #36

ForgedCrank

(3,041 posts)
27. I hate to
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 02:53 PM
Jan 2

break it to you, but Musk isn't a Nazi, he's simply an asshole.
Remember, when everyone is a Nazi, no one is a Nazi.

EdmondDantes_

(1,525 posts)
29. When you throw up nazi salutes, you're probably a nazi
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 03:08 PM
Jan 2

When you're into eugenics, you're probably a nazi.

When you turn twitter into a nazi welcoming place and work to silence your own critics, you're probably a nazi.

When you back the AfD, you're probably a nazi.

When your AI declares itself MechaHitler and recommends a second Holocaust, you're probably a nazi.

But sure, maybe those are just coincidences. I haven't seen him wearing an actual swastika for example. But that's at least three more maybes than I'm comfortable giving a pass on.

ForgedCrank

(3,041 posts)
34. This is the
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 03:50 PM
Jan 2

kind of silly stuff that is making us all a laughing stock.

Nazi's never had twitter.
The Nazi's never backed the AfD.
Nazi's didn't run an Ai system.

There are no living Nazi's. We either killed them all or they died on their own years ago. I've seen this same ridiculous crap posted about Bush, Trump, and anyone else who goes against the grain. They are assholes, not Nazi's.

Maru Kitteh

(31,392 posts)
35. Musk is a a motherfucking nazi. A white-supremacist nazi eugenics FANBOY.
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 05:14 PM
Jan 2

He’s a FUCKING fascist. We know there are legions of technosexuals who sit, growing ever softer, more obsequious and pliant below his slightly oily, moist fingers who feel a brief rush of superiority as they chuff at us dumb-ass normies who “don’t get it.” To them we would say, could you please stop yanking it just long enough to notice that he really actually is a nazi, and this thing you guys have going? It’s not really good for you.

ForgedCrank

(3,041 posts)
37. Noe of
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 07:08 PM
Jan 2

what you appear to be going off the edge about equates to Musk being a Nazi. It just makes him an asshole.
I can remember getting attacked here for not liking him, I think he's a jackass and professional at grifting for government contract money, it's always been his specialty. But he's not a Nazi, and calling people that is ridiculous.

Diraven

(1,857 posts)
8. Looks like he's not getting that trillion dollar bonus
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 10:21 AM
Jan 2

Unless of course he orders the board to get rid of all those unrealistic financial targets.

dutch777

(4,969 posts)
9. Tesla would be doing even worse if Chinese EVs were allowed in the country tariff free. Better tech at lower cost.
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 10:22 AM
Jan 2

Many Americans still harbor the illusion that our tech is better. In many cases, EVs being a prime one, in fact the Asian manufacturers and systems deliver a more capable unit at a much lower cost. This is not only true in the device themselves, but in the systems that support them. People that spend time in Asia are amazed by how much better much of the tech is and how things like the cell phone systems work so much better. Of course it would not only be Tesla that got battered if protective tariffs were dropped but GM, Ford and the rest.

hlthe2b

(113,201 posts)
10. Interesting. I've been seeing more Teslas than in the year before the Musk DOGE debacle backlash
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 10:29 AM
Jan 2

I can only assume they are not only selling a lot of new ones, but those who owned them previously and were a bit ashamed of owning one prior (and were at least changing the Tesla insignia/emblems) have decided to let the flag fly (to my dismay)...

I'm even seeing two of those disgusting Cyber trucks around town, but especially areas near my home. Those are the damned ugliest things I have ever seen--like a trash-metal tugboat on wheels or similar. I continue to warn people walking across the parking lot when one is nearby because I know damned well they can't see (or don't care) people in front or directly behind them. Damn, I hate seeing them.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,184 posts)
16. I thought this was about sales worldwide
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 12:13 PM
Jan 2

He has virtually no competition here because of government interference. I wouldn’t call that a win.

Greg_In_SF

(993 posts)
17. And, this is only
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 12:23 PM
Jan 2

about the number of units sold, not earnings.

BYD sells cars for $8000 - $24,000

Tesla sells cars for $33,000 - $125,000

Martin Eden

(15,442 posts)
14. I considered buying an EV before the results of the 2024 election, but it would not have been a Tesla
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 10:42 AM
Jan 2

I bought a Hybrid instead, because I knew Trump would stop implementation of Biden's plan for more charging stations along our interstate highway system. I take long road trips to hiking destinations and senior softball tournaments, and did not want to plan my route around stations while avoiding recharge at Tesla. So I bought a hybrid instead, getting MPG in the upper 40's.

kimbutgar

(26,985 posts)
18. I brought a hybrid also
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 12:26 PM
Jan 2

We only fill up once a month. My other car which I drive a few times a week I have to fill up every other week. I at one time before the muskrat brought twitter and become the orange turd partner in hate thought about buying a Tesla now you couldn’t give me one for free because it’s a Nazi car to me.

Martin Eden

(15,442 posts)
22. The hideous Tesla Cybertruck is called a SWASTICAR by many
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 01:31 PM
Jan 2

I like my Kia Niro hybrid. It's short enough for my spot in the garage, and has room for a full size spare under the hatch floor. I bought a new rim & tire to match the other four, and I have all five rotated.

Like so many new cars these days (especially hybrids & EV's) it didn't even come with a temporary service spare -- just a can of pressurized goop that may or may not repair tire damage that might occur while driving on unpaved forest roads to remote trailheads.

rampartd

(4,240 posts)
15. if he never sells another car it would it me fine
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 11:03 AM
Jan 2

his space junk is littering the solar system, crypto mines and data centers are burning gigawatts, and who knows what the boring company is doing.

Ol Janx Spirit

(827 posts)
23. FAFO on the tax credit Muskrat. That $7,500 was driving a lot of sales of his EVs.
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 01:37 PM
Jan 2

But he did walk away with all of our data, so I guess it was worth it in the end....

flvegan

(65,975 posts)
24. It's not just politics, they're shit cars too.
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 02:01 PM
Jan 2

Most recent long term reliability rating (5-10 years): Tesla, dead fucking last. But hey, crash it within the first few years and maybe you can be one of the lucky ones trapped in the car burning to death and that problem is solved. Or something.

I will happily credit Tesla for help "kicking off" the mass migration towards EVs. Even if they are crap.

Aussie105

(7,722 posts)
36. Both Tesla and BYD EVs are probably on the same level as far as technology goes.
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 06:59 PM
Jan 2

But I don't know much about that, so feel free to argue the point.

The obvious difference is that the figure head of one is a rather strange and twisted person, a suspected drug abuser, and too deep in murky politics to be trustworthy.

The other one? I couldn't name the company figure head of BYD, to be honest.

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