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We see the polls. Some say he is at 36% or 38%, but in truth, he has lost very little support amongst his most avid supporters. They still worship him. They will never desert him. They love his lewd, crude name-calling and the cruel manner in which he divides the nation, so long as he owns the libs.
I would like to believe that some of them are beginning to see the light. But that number is minute, in my opinion. They will stick with him until he is six-feet under ground. Then they will mourn as if their Father and Mother just passed. I have no faith in these people. They have shown their true colors too many times to believe otherwise.
Also, I believe that elected Republicans will pretend to be independent of their Leader to maintain some sort of credibility, but when push comes to shove, they will be right there with the rest of the adoring cult.
Keepthesoulalive
(2,307 posts)They buy tacky merchandise with exorbitant markups and plaster their walls with fake pictures. They aint going nowhere.
mcar
(46,068 posts)I'm hopeful they will crawl back under their rocks, aimless without their cult leader. There are no Republicans who can carry that mantle for them.
Can't happen soon enough.
Mister Ed
(6,930 posts)I have a feeling that when old age and ill health claim him, the cult is going to believe absolutely that he was done in by the sinister forces of the "deep state".
I mean, why not? They believe all the other crazy shit about stolen elections, Democratic pedophile rings run out of pizza parlors, etc. etc. etc. If they've elevated Charlie Kirk to sainthood, then what will Trump be? An archangel?
Probatim
(3,286 posts)When he kicks it, his maggots will cling to the idea the Deep State did him in; otherwise, how could such a youthful, exuberant, handsome man die so abruptly?
My head hurts thinking of this, but it will be a reality.
Dave Id
(286 posts)Trump based his campaign in 2016 on the his conspiracy that Barack Obama wasn't qualified to run for president because he "was born in Kenya". Trump's entire presidency has been based on lies and conspiracies. His MAGA morons bought the bullshit hook, line and sinker, so of course they believe was assassinated.
Cosmocat
(15,424 posts)Of the liberal boogyman will keep them in line.
People who don't get that is the foundation of all of this see a false hope that they could step away from "MAGA." They might rebrand, but they ALWAYS will side against the "libs" and the DTs, Musks, Marg Greens understand and take advantage of that.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,089 posts)the other 70%?
Not so much.
I'm really looking forward to the mid terms and the 2028 elections, I wholeheartedly believe that it will be a blowout election for the Democrats, and, speaking as a Boomer, I hope that the old guard will step aside and usher in the next generation of Democrats.
hlthe2b
(114,014 posts)A second example that still shocks me: as a teen I remember time in Munich with my parents and met many older men wearing the traditional Tyrolean wool hat with a feather in the hatband and a number of pins--much like some collect bumper stickers. Observing them closely as they would drink their mugs of beer I was unnerved to see a lot of them with swastikas among those pins. Later, I would meet and work with an Argentinian-American woman, who was apparently the daughter of a Nazi officer who fled to Argentina after the war and we talked about it. She impressed on me that though her generation had turned their backs on Nazism and even held their family members at arm's length over the issue, those from that generation often continued to feel pride over that time and their "service."
So, yes. Some people just will never divorce themselves from prior deeply held beliefs or "membership" in a faction or cult.
SarasotaDem
(230 posts)NT
WmChris
(745 posts)He doesn't have to wipe there are enough ignorant MAGAT noses in and out of that orfice to collect most of the brown.
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PatSeg
(53,214 posts)There are still some today and can usually be found wearing MAGA hats.
Joinfortmill
(21,200 posts)StarryNite
(12,123 posts)He told me God decides and picks our presidents. Since God chose trump he supports trump. But he said he didn't understand why God picked Biden. I asked him why he bothers to vote if God decides who will win. He was at a loss for words.
These people have no critical thinking skills...none.
BannonsLiver
(20,609 posts)Im channeling Barbara Bush on that one. Who the hell cares.
ybbor
(1,752 posts)Theyd also believe the sky is yellow and the sun is blue, if dear leader says so.
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Martin68
(27,767 posts)hard core believers. Polls don't measure the slow seeping in of doubt and the effects of infighting among some of Trump's closest allies. Once the full effect of the lapse of Obamacare subsidies takes effect in MAGA country, where the majority of those people live, the number of defections will start to accelerate. Farmers are suffering in spite of Trump's attempts to subsidize their losses - and those subsidies often don't help small farmers as much as they do mega corporate farms. Trump's policies are hitting MAGA in their wallets and pocketbooks, and that will have a telling effect on their loyalty. Enough of the doomsday pessimism. Trump is his own worst enemy.
JustKay
(142 posts)He gives them an excuse to show their true, ugly colors.
He normalizes racism and hatred in general.
He dismisses the importance of education, elevating uneducated people.
By selling Bibles, he gives Christians an excuse to do what they have done best for the last 2,000 years - burn witches and pagans.
By disregarding the Constitution, he allows his followers to make up their own rules, no matter how hurtful, damning, or oppressive they are.
And most importantly, some people just refuse to admit they're wrong.
What the poll really reveals is that 36-38% of Americans are die-hard neo-Nazi's.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(135,836 posts)Evolve Dammit
(21,781 posts)red dog 1
(33,095 posts)Ol Janx Spirit
(1,024 posts)I don't think they so much cling to him as see him as an apparition of their own beliefs.
He breathes life into all of the horrible things they always thought but could never say on a world stage. He is their belief system in physical form--or so they think. Why would they ever desert that?
Whether he shared their beliefs has always been questionable, but he has tapped into their zeitgeist and used it to get what he wanted.
So who is clinging to whom exactly?
Now that he has ridden their cause and grifted about all he can from them you start to see his MAGA façade slipping a little. Epstein files? America first? No more foreign wars? Jail Hillary?
But MAGA pretty much are who they are. Turnip is a chameleon, and at some point he's going to turn back into his real colors whatever they are. He's never actually looked as comfortable wearing a MAGA hat as they do.
The big question is what happens to them when their apparition disappears into thin air?
Fil1957
(708 posts)loses support from Fox, in addition to being a proven pedophile; you will definitively see a loss of support for Trump among Maga.
Maybe not as much as we'd like, but certainly a signicant amount.
Kid Berwyn
(24,438 posts)Hooray.
LilElf70
(1,577 posts)They will NEVER leave the POS. I like to poke the bear of an "EX" pre-MAGA friend all the time. His responses are usually, It's Biden's fault, or Trump is King and can do whatever he wants. For some reason, he really hates Biden. Refers to him all the time.
It must be driving him crazy as I never reply to his texts any more. I have preview turned on and never open his bullshit. He's an old bear, like 80. Many times I do block him.
Yeah, they will NEVER CHANGE, and I could care less. Besides it was always the undecided voters that mattered. Most of them are long gone now. So, let em whine. Let em cry. Let em follow/support the division and hatred. You can't fix toopid, and never will. Quit wasting time you'll never get back, dealing with these people.
Swede
(39,545 posts)ThoughtCriminal
(14,731 posts)to "Somewhat Approve". And meanwhile the portion of people moving from "Somewhat Disapprove" to "Strongly Disapprove" grows.
valleyrogue
(2,729 posts)are just like him, complete assholes.
Trump made assholery respectable in this country.
Johonny
(26,205 posts)As these people have little incentive to vote and I predict many won't.
Hassler
(4,925 posts)kairos12
(13,598 posts)we would say they cling to him like jumping Cholla to a new desert hiker.