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https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/01/trump-neo-royalism-abe-newman-greenland/(Snip)
Neo-royalism says that the state, the country, is not the key actor, Abe Newman, a political scientist at Georgetown who co-wrote a paper coining the term, told me. Its groups of elites that are organized around political leaders. That system doesnt play by the same rules.
What we propose, neo-royalism, is basically just saying to begin with, the state is not the key actor like the country. Its groups of elites that are organized around political leaders. That system doesnt play by the same rules, but it is very inherent to how humans think about international politics.
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I think a lot of people start with the idea that Trump is about spheres of influence balancing against China. Sometimes people call it America First. But thats a red herring. But really, what youre seeing is a set of foreign policy decisions that are about accumulating status and material wealth and then concentrating that in that group of insider elites. This is about status hierarchy, the relations of individuals.
Why does Trump have a big fight with India and put huge tariffs on India? Its because Modi wont recognize Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize. Its not about competing against China. Why did we sell lots of semiconductors to the UAE? It doesnt make a lot of sense from an America First perspective. So whats going on there? Its about the amount of money that the UAE is going to put into World Liberty Financial, the crypto company thats associated with Steve Witkoff and their children. Its about seeing the global chessboard as a site of status and material wealth. The same thing with Venezuela. People think its the oil companies that are pushing Trump to take over Venezuela. Theyre not. Thats not the story. Its about how Trump sees Venezuela as a resource that he can then distribute across his allies.
Apologies if this has been previously posted, but I think its important and is a very credible viewpoint. It says the billionaire class is creating a new world order where they, not traditional political entities of nations, control everything.
Farmer-Rick
(12,480 posts)It explains the psychology of a crazy psychopath. All the people in the country don't matter. Just the group of fascist he momentarily hangs iwith count. That group of neo-royals can change at a drop of a hat if the king decides he doesn't like them though.
But it's a distinction without a difference. Whatever their psychological out look, they are pedophiles that are demented psycho fascists.
SharonAnn
(14,143 posts)valleyrogue
(2,580 posts)They are libertarian whack jobs.
Ocelot II
(129,074 posts)or the best interests of the US as a nation. What he cares about is the US as both a symbol and a source of his personal power and wealth, which he can use to buy off other oligarchs to cement his position and, not incidentally, fluff his ego. Why does he really want Greenland, for example? Not only because of its mineral resources - those could be purchased without annexing the whole country - but because if it became a US territory he could show off a Mercator projection map, which shows Greenland as 3x its actual size, displaying the US as by far the largest country in the western hemisphere. He's an imperialist, an oligarch and a megalomaniac all at the same time. Not a great combination.
underpants
(194,905 posts)They can completely shape much of the publics mind and will never feel the ramifications. They might just decide theres no use extending the existence of useless eaters in an almost Sky Net kind of self actualization. They have tons of security and get aways in New Zealand and elsewhere Im sure.
Its all very reminiscent of the movie Mountainhead just few months ago.
Seinan Sensei
(1,365 posts)Kid Berwyn
(22,958 posts)Its the New Feudalism. Since Ronnie Raygun, the rich have refused to pay the serfs a living wage.
Irish_Dem
(79,805 posts)Trump is just the snake oil salesman.
Attilatheblond
(8,289 posts)Irish_Dem
(79,805 posts)Attilatheblond
(8,289 posts)Irish_Dem
(79,805 posts)Perhaps a new dark age.
Survival is the major goal.
Attilatheblond
(8,289 posts)and they are not kidding.
I really feel we are not one species, but two; one with empathy and one with NO empathy or limits on what they would do to others. Being a 'born again pagan agnostic' I can't help but wonder if what is going on between empathy & no empathy is actually 'the final battle' alluded to in that book of weird conjecture, the bible.
Irish_Dem
(79,805 posts)We see it writ large now.
Clouds Passing
(6,997 posts)creon
(1,810 posts)It works well.
Trump wants the power to be able to act out needs.
He cannot be satisfied though
C_U_L8R
(48,877 posts)Trump just got a taste of killing and he likes the feeling of power it gives him.
Ever the coward, his next victims will still be weaker opponents but Trump
will grow more emboldened and reckless. This gets a lot worse before it gets better.
underpants
(194,905 posts)or that anything is possible. Hes not going to say No. Suddenly THAT becomes policy. No one can make him back up on it and theres no way hes even hinting about being wrong.
Cuba? Yes (I am all powerful)
Mexico? See above.
highplainsdem
(60,000 posts)Response to WestMichRad (Original post)
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kentuck
(115,103 posts)...and they grabbed it.
moniss
(8,708 posts)cachukis
(3,671 posts)loyal subjects.
wiggs
(8,681 posts)Martin Eden
(15,363 posts)It is FASCISM, pure and simple.
Multiple different terms will just confuse people at a time when clarity is needed.
Bev54
(13,199 posts)the new world order from the right, it is IDU International Democracy Union. It is headed up by Stephen Harper, previous conservative PM of Canada, a real dipshit. Many of us in Canada are very aware of the work they are doing and how they have propped up our opposition leader, Pierre Poilievre. It is just that not enough of us know about it and the media wants to completely ignore it altogether. I have not heard one word about it from legacy media. Read a little about it, I am sure they thought they found a great partner in Trump but Trump cannot control his bully instincts and keeps going off script.
I recommend that people make themselves familiar with this organization but whether they can hold it together with the big egos of some of the leaders is a question.
bronxiteforever
(11,091 posts)Bezos, Zuckerberg, Ellison , etc.
They need serfs and we are on that menu. Indentured servitude is going to make a comeback. If the economic equilibrium of the US does not change-war, famine, revolution and water wars will change it.
Attilatheblond
(8,289 posts)has been here for decades, if not a century.
bronxiteforever
(11,091 posts)Prairie Gates
(7,194 posts)Nothing, that's what.
Tell me something that I didn't know when I woke up this morning.
Joinfortmill
(20,073 posts)azureblue
(2,663 posts)He's lost his mind, and all he does is react to whatever is in front of him, and to whoever slights him. He can't reason any more, and his speeches prove it. Pedo Don should be in an asylum.
Scruffy1
(3,501 posts)The well known "vulture capitalist" managed to pick up Venezuela owned Citgo through a bankruptcy sale last year. The bankruptcy was caused by the sanctions forcing Citgo to buy product from outside the company. Now the that the oil is available he stands to make 5 billion dollars, or over a 1000% profit on his investment in the 2024 election.
Uncle Joe
(64,231 posts)There is a cabal of global oligarchs yanking the world's strings dominating nations including our own, but I hate the term "elite" to describe them.
That term can imply some form of superiority other than just financial clouding the issue of their character, and/or ability.
Thanks for the thread WestMichRad
hay rick
(9,354 posts)He wants loot, in its many forms, for himself and his "friends." What he doesn't take for himself or his family he wants to steer to people who can give him bribes, kickbacks, or future favors. The whole King Don meme, with the crown and the gaudy, gleaming gold accessories is exactly how he thinks of himself.
His long history of accounting fictions designed to land him in the Forbes 400 foreshadowed his current fixations. His cupidity is in full display in the Venezuela attack. The episode also displays the frightening combination of his increasingly unconstrained exercise of power and diminished mental capacity.
PatrickforB
(15,341 posts)never said truer words when she said that every billionaire is a FAILURE in tax policy.
Raven123
(7,544 posts)Neo-royalism is just a fancy term that I suspect will only work in certain circles. Try a different term. How about Putinism if oligarchy turns people off because it is spoken by someone who identifies as a democratic socialist?
Hieronymus Phact
(722 posts)That seem to work also as the natural end state of oligarchy.
Raven123
(7,544 posts)Recognizable. Whatever we call it, need to immediately define it and repeat it over and over
hay rick
(9,354 posts)An unmistakable element of feudalism was the division of society into classes with different rights and functions. I see the current trajectory as restoring the bulk of the population to the equivalent of the third estate in the ancien regime. Peasants will have little wealth or property and will have restricted rights. I would not be surprised to see an expansion of personal service contracts that would create a functional equivalent of slavery.
unblock
(55,921 posts)They all excel at leveraging privilege to grift more than anyone else. That's about it.
Joinfortmill
(20,073 posts)pandr32
(13,780 posts)We must stop giving them status as though they are special.
This also describes their sense of entitlement and superiority. They see the leaders of countries as their game pieces.
BumRushDaShow
(165,752 posts)Tetrachloride
(9,380 posts)this is not new
Ol Janx Spirit
(717 posts)Calling it neo-royalism is fine, but it doesn't really capture the "government by the least suitable or competent citizens of a state" element in my mind.
America put a rich idiot in charge and he put a bunch of other rich idiots in positions of power. That's a plutocratic kakistocracy....
ShazzieB
(22,214 posts)markodochartaigh
(5,028 posts)"L'État, c'est moi."
Zackzzzz
(263 posts)told me back in the late 50's, that this country was
run/controlled by about 100 very wealthy families.
And really way back, all the way back in time.
Silly me, I thought my vote counted.
I_UndergroundPanther
(13,330 posts)And make poor 100 or so families.
flashman13
(2,024 posts)The war in Europe was pure brigandage. It was simply robbery to benefit the few. The logic was simple. We can do it because we can. Ultimately Hitler's maniacal over reach led to the Nazi's downfall and the utter destruction of Germany with much of Europe as collateral damage.
Game of Thromes is a good anology. Kings Landing destroyed. House of Lannister destroyed. The End. Roll credits.
SergeStorms
(19,960 posts)And this damned country is full of them.
Justice matters.
(9,390 posts)State-sponsored terrorism is their tool.
Ya think Osama bin Laden was bad? Think again! Millions of deads coming (already started with the pandemic).
cksmithy
(425 posts)Further Back to the Future: Neo-Liberalism, the trump administration, and the emerging international system. Published online by Cambridge University Press. It makes a lot of sense and helps explain to me why a third or more of our country voted for who they think is a god king for president. he thinks he a king and is making other countries treat him a like a king, like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc.
paulkienitz
(1,501 posts)I'm glad some others are starting to see it.
neohippie
(1,257 posts)After 9-11 many of the worlds oligarchs, especially those who deal in illicit trades, like the Russian mobsters, Asian Triads, other international syndicates, were getting hurt by the US Department of Justice Financial Crimes Divisions who were trying to stop the flow of money to terrorist organizations well FINCIN was doing such a great job of disrupting money laundering through new international baking regulations designed to report suspected financial crimes that it was hurting all of the oligarchs across the globe.
They made it their mission to put the useful idiot into the Whitehouse so that they could dismantle and weaken the US. They needed to weaken US Hegemony they wanted to take power away from all the liberal democratic institutions, that not only chased their financial crimes, but that they feel like cost them money through environmental, safety and banking regulations
They made a plan to attack the US government but from the inside and strip our federal agencies that now had international reach because of cooperation that was originally setup to combat terrorism but was also affecting just business in general.
People like Elon Musk who has business with these oligarchs, it was Starlink that was allowing the Asian syndicates to operate all the call center scams that operated out of the autonomous regions in Asia Musk was providing the internet to those criminals
Also all the billionaires and even the sanctioned states, learned how to avoid a lot of banking regulations that were used not only to enforce US sanctions on trade but skirt money laundering reporting by using block chain currencies like Bitcoin, that is why the tech bros and Trump and many others are so heavily invested in those things. They have realized they can evade the regulations and laws that were in place that way
It all makes sense when you look at what is going on all over the world through that lens
Musk and his businesses like Space X and Tesla were also under investigation by many federal agencies. These oligarchs banded together with people from other interested countries, like those in the Middle East and even Israel to make sure that Trump got elected so that they could then follow through with their plans many outlined in Project 2025 to weaken all of our federal agencies including the Justice Department.
They are using the immigration issue as a front and a distraction so that all of our resource are focused on that while lots of other crimes no longer have the resources to be investigated.
This global cabal, helped to buy the Supreme Court to help them with their mission of weakening federal agencies
The federal government for too long was there to stand up and protect citizens instead of working for the billionaire oligarchs, but with Trump's second term all of that has changed. The corruption is so absolute that its right out in the open. The powerful oligarchs no longer care about hiding it because they have corrupted our political system to a point where its about impossible to stand up to them.
They have stacked our government against our own country and our citizens best interests.
This is what is going on non of these billionaires have any reason to worry about what happens to average or vulnerable citizens of the US or any other country they already control 90% of all wealth on the planet they will never be satisfied with the wealth and power that they held in the past they want it all and they want it now
BarbD
(1,369 posts)It's all possible with money.
BurnDoubt
(1,472 posts)THIS is the reason we declined to add our weight on the scales of Law And Order at the ICC.
They KNEW this moment would come, because its been part of their Plan all along.
It kinda looks like this Plan has been a long time coming, since the before the Weimar Republic fell. Hitler couldnt get it done, so they moved in over here.
I love a good conspiracy theory.
Maybe well find out at Schroedingers next Birthday
I_UndergroundPanther
(13,330 posts)So of course these narcissistic cruel Nazi loving neo confederate pieces of shit want to rule the world. They will never be satisfied.
Rstrstx
(1,642 posts)Beartracks
(14,352 posts)He was with a super-secret cabal of elites as they discussed their plans for the world, even down to the nitty-gritty of who would be declared winner of Best Picture at the Oscars that year. EVERYTHING for regular people was just an illusion of freedom.
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Skittles
(169,553 posts)gawd HE IS SO FUCKING PATHETIC and don't even get me STARTED on his FUCKED UP FANBASE
OldBaldy1701E
(10,188 posts)MaeScott
(950 posts)is a very real root of evil. And they just cant get enough of it.
BradBo
(924 posts)He listens to the last person he talks too, especially if their rich. And they also play on his deep, deep racism and misogyny. Thats why he has people like Miller and Cheung advising him.
Trumps a simpleton,and YES, hes genuinely afraid of dying..
Thats why in his weak moments he was fretting about not going to heaven. He literally talked to the media about that. Hes scared as hell of going to jail to for his Epstein crimes also and scared to die because hes got a weird view of the afterlife.
I think hes so stupid he cant even be a good atheist.