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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"... a doctor was at the scene and tried to help the woman... ICE agents refused to let the doctor in to help."
"Meanwhile, witnesses said a doctor was at the scene and tried to help the woman who had been shot, but the ICE agents refused to let the doctor in to help. Up to 15 minutes later, an ambulance arrived but was blocked by ICE vehicles that had occupied the street."
— Nicole Foy (@nicolefoy.bsky.social) 2026-01-07T20:49:49.841Z
www.fox9.com/news/minneap...
Kid Berwyn
(22,963 posts)Putin wins.
yellow dahlia
(4,557 posts)I never knew I could tap into such visceral hate...regularly.
COL Mustard
(7,994 posts)As Mark Twain said, I dont wish for anyones death, but there are some obituaries that I will read with great satisfaction.
yellow dahlia
(4,557 posts)On the video I saw of the aftermath, you could hear a guy yelling "I'm a doctor."
RockRaven
(18,723 posts)They think they can say the magic words they are trained to say after a shooting and get away with it. And for the most part they aren't wrong, even when there is video.
Once they shoot, they want them dead. The magic words are more effective that way.
KewlKat
(5,788 posts)Not sure anything could have helped her, but someone should have been able to try.
That poor child in the vehicle that witnessed this.........my heart is once again broken.
niyad
(129,560 posts)KewlKat
(5,788 posts)ananda
(34,430 posts)???
yellow dahlia
(4,557 posts)Moostache
(10,983 posts)First, there MUST be a free and fair election in November at all costs. Even if we have to start lining up to vote in September, the election MUST happen in every jurisdiction in the country and the GOP MUST be sent out of power on a rail. The margin needs to reflect all of the outrage, pain and misery caused by Trump and his jackals.
Second, there MUST be 100% accountability for EVERYONE in the ICE chain of command up to and including Noem and Trump and they MUST face the consequences of these repugnant actions. This includes murder charges, accessory to murder, aiding and abetting and anything else in the CFR that can be applied.
Third, Trump will claim immunity and try to pardon all of his goons pre-emptively. This MUST be stopped and the guilty MUST stand to account, even if it means a total shutdown of all government functions, a closing of all military operations, a full stop in all activities of any kind. THIS TIME, if there is no accountability, the nation is dead on arrival.
Finally, Trump and his goons MUST be sent to The Hague to stand trial for crimes against humanity and they must NOT be defended by the legitimate government of the people of the United States. This assholes are acting out in their fever-dream fantasies and that must be made abundantly clear to the world. The USA does NOT harbor terrorists or war criminals, period, full fucking stop.
yellow dahlia
(4,557 posts)We need to figure out how to prevent them for fucking with the election results. They keep confessing in advance - they have no intention of losing. They will pull out all the stops.
There will clearly be a mandate at the midterms, but I don't think they will let that get in their way. Losing is not an option for them. The grifter has said so often.
Farmer-Rick
(12,480 posts)Requires a fight. A vote will not stop them. The fascist are too entrenched. The Nazis got control of our federal government and they ain't giving it up no matter what the voters want.
There will have to be a fight if you want the Nazis out of your democracy. You cannot ignore bullies and expect them to go away with just a simple vote. You have to stand up to bullies and that involves fighting. Not sure what that fight will look like but fighting is required.
Moostache
(10,983 posts)ICE?
Meet IEDs, ambushes, snipers and begin to understand the true meaning of "fear for my life".
Ask any vet who was in Vietnam, or Iraq how asymmetric warfare feels. Ask them about those IEDs and ambushes. Ask them about the morale of a platoon sent into a meaningless valley to "patrol" and serve as target practice for the enemy who already knows they're coming. What is happening now - being allowed to roll up in civilian vehicles, absent any uniforms or unit identification and expect to be respected or adhered to as is they are legitimate law enforcement (and not a fever dream from the warped mind of Stephen Miller) is done.
If the VC and NVA could bleed us out of Vietnam, and ISIS could survive in the mountains of Afghanistan and Iraq for 15+ years, and our REAL troops had to face that uncertainty and fear every single time they left base for patrols...well, I believe a nation of 300,000,000 PLUS guns and armed to the teeth citizens can do a lot more damage - targeted or collateral. I doubt the bravery and honor of those currently in the ICE gangs. They are cowards and will eat each other rather than cohere into an actual fighting force. I would bet in combat those ICE agent might just be the new ARVN rifles of real combat - dropped once and never fired.
It is time for the deteriorating Orange Oompa-loompa, his reincarnation of Goebbels goon, Cos-Play Barbie and her dress up 'men' to enter the "find out" portion of the FAFO proceedings; and to also be made 100% aware that by signing up for this 'duty', they forfeit any possibility of a peaceful life after Trump.
No one needs to be stupid and stand toe-to-toe in the streets with armed thugs, but the fear of the almighty resides NOT in the power to kill but the power to instill actual, real, debilitating fear in the hearts of those who are in the wrong and doing it for kicks or pay or both. The days of playing dress-up gang member/thug/paramilitary goon by day, and then going home to a family or life outside of such abysmal acts is OVER. The era of REAL fear - of dying by roadside bombs they never see, of becoming a true casualty of 'enemy fire', of being worried that when they go on one of these kidnapping 'missions' they really may not be coming home ever again - THAT is the fear they will be made to feel. Not the bullshit made-up version trotted out as justification for murder in broad day light.
These 'agents' are radioactive waste in polite society and Dead On Arrival for the job market of the future that does not involve being 'security' for billionaires. Their children and families are also not immune to the shame and ill will and disrepute they are engendering every second they line up and are counted as "ICE". You lie down with dogs, the fleas stay with YOU. You provide aid or succor to the same? Join them in infamy, but also know this - the paymasters in the billionaire class HATE you, and USE you, but will NEVER PROTECT you. They will discard, disavow and disown you in a nanosecond if it saves them even an extra hour of freedom.
I will NEVER hire, do business with, patronize businesses that DO support ICE in ANY way, or allow any former ICE agent or family member to try to forget their dishonorable role in this sad chapter of American history. They are permanently marked and that stain will NEVER wash clean again. Those fake uniforms cannot be burned. This real shame can never be forgiven.
live love laugh
(16,202 posts)Wiz Imp
(8,991 posts)Lonestarblue
(13,227 posts)FakeNoose
(40,185 posts)Kristi Noem needs to be charged with 1st degree murder.
kacekwl
(8,879 posts)PatSeg
(52,178 posts)By the look of the vehicle and the stickers on the window.
Some trigger-happy fool was just itching to use his gun.
Rhiagel
(1,835 posts)... and the poor child's father died in 2023. So, now ICE is orphaning American kids.
PatSeg
(52,178 posts)For me, it makes such a crime even worse if children are left without a parent.
You know as a woman, I would have panicked if some armed thug in a mask rushed my car and tried to open the door. I probably would have tried to pull away. You rarely hear of real police trying to open car doors or smash windows to drag people out of their vehicle. I think they are trained NOT to do that. These ICE agents are untrained, aggressive, and lawless.
Codifer
(1,157 posts)she was a widow with a child. There were what looked like kid toys in the passenger door pocket.
WHERE THE FUCK AM I?
When am I?
PatSeg
(52,178 posts)or 1930s Germany. Where did all these monsters come from?
niyad
(129,560 posts)niyad
(129,560 posts)BurnDoubt
(1,472 posts)Feeling Safer, Now?
Wait til Der Fuhrer wakes from a dream about Cat-Ladies eating his Oil and sends ICE out to Make Us Great Again.
The Devil Dances. His work is being done.
demmiblue
(39,240 posts)HuffPost has obtained a video of a physician trying to give medical care to the woman shot and killed by ICE agents today, and not being allowed to go near her.
— Yashar Ali ð (@yasharali.bsky.social) 2026-01-07T22:04:55.944Z
The ICE agents claim there are medics on site, but witnesses scream that there are no medics present.
Full Story: bit.ly/3YwbaQR
tetedur
(1,405 posts)was lucky he didn't get his arm blown off. Maybe when they start shooting their own, they will figure out when it is necessary to pull their weapons and fire and when it is not. I can only hope the next incident will be played out with the tragic circumstances back firing on their asses.
Scubamatt
(254 posts)Word is that a big protest is forming - a smaller one already went through on Hennepin. I expect the Gestapo will be out looking for opportunities to create havoc. For anyone else here - be safe.
Bluetus
(2,300 posts)And that also means there are now several other accessories to the murder.
The main difference between manslaughter and murder in most jurisdictions, is forethought and intention. Without this additional factor of letting the victim receive possibly life saving medical help, they might have been able to excuse it as a manslaughter in the rage of the moment. But the deliberate act to prevent the victim from getting medical treatment should immediately upgrade this to a murder charge for everyone involved.
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,963 posts)moonshinegnomie
(3,869 posts)Shipwack
(3,001 posts)That stood by and let the agent block the ambulance They are just as complicit.
Also prosecute the agents that just stood there and didnt render first aid.
moonshinegnomie
(3,869 posts)All I officers are domestic terrorists and should be arrested on sight
iemanja
(57,394 posts)Dave Bowman
(6,657 posts)moonshinegnomie
(3,869 posts)SSJVegeta
(2,320 posts)Since ICE is also complicit in covering it up, I wonder if anybody working for them in the state can be held for accessory after the fact. Qualified immunity does not protect them and Walz is not fucking around.
Dave Bowman
(6,657 posts)riversedge
(79,432 posts)Clouds Passing
(7,001 posts)Bettie
(19,283 posts)To get her help. They were proud of killing her. They are probably having a party right now.
surfered
(11,535 posts)kacekwl
(8,879 posts)neighborhood gets together one day a beats the living fuck out of these Nazis.
Beartracks
(14,352 posts)If it sounds like bullshit and looks like bullshit -- and especially if it comes from a cabal of bullshit artists -- it is bullshit.
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AZProgressive
(29,852 posts)It is common for them in the West Bank to injure someone then refuses to let the local paramedics treat the victim.
I hate to see IDF tactics being used on American soil.
WTF..as if the IDF is training ICE to murder innocent civilians...thats a giant leap that should embarrass you....what the IDF faces after hundreds of terrorist attacks over decades is not comparable to what ICE did here...their "tactics" involve accounting for secondary bombings meant to injure first responders arriving to the scene to aid civilian victims....thats why they seal off the streets in the overwhelming majority of incidents...and I am certain terrorists who get paid bounties to kill Jews from the Palestinian Authority are not commensurrate with this unfortunate victim in minnesota
AZProgressive
(29,852 posts)The IDF certainly has injured or killed civilians some of them are journalists or US citizens. I didn't mention Gaza where they actually killed a paramedic crew from reaching a child who was later killed herself. I'm sure some of their targets are legitimate military targets but they often kill civilians themselves.
The Trump administration is also checking people's social media which is also what the Israeli government does at borders and checkpoints.
When I first came across this story it reminded me of the countless other stories I saw reported in the last 2 years. Israel has been also ramping up in the West Bank since the restart of the Gaza war.
calilama
(27 posts)Probably the better example is what the IRGC does to Iranian civilians and is currently doing...they intentionally target civilian protestors with alarming regularity....But I wonder if that type of brutality by the handlers and supporters of Hamas concerns you as much, basically because it's not Israel.....to be clear, I am a progressive with decades of labor activism but have become convinced that, especially among my fellow travelers, anti Zionism is just thinly veiled anti-Semitism.
There is not a synagogue in America that doesn't require protective services....a fellow congregant out here in Cali was killed by a pro-Palestinian supporter who hit him in the head with a megaphone. The case is still pending in Ventura County criminal courts....Jews are openly targeted all over the world....there is something terribly wrong, and while Israel and the IDF should not be above reproach, selectively holding them responsible for the murder of an American citizen in Minnesota is demonization without cause.
the argument that anti zionism is not antisemitism doesnt hold up for me anymore....it's basically Jews may exist but they may not have their indigenous land to exist upon...the difference now as opposed to when the Nazis murdered my family in Europe is that Jews fight back....seems to bother quite a few folks...and for the record..I'm onboard for a Palestine living beside Israel in peace..just as it could of been in 1947
Cha
(316,794 posts)JT45242
(3,832 posts)Callous and illegal actions.