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PJMcK

(24,775 posts)
Sat Jan 10, 2026, 06:16 PM Saturday

Here's my theory about Trump's focus on Greenland

As an acolyte and lap dog of Putin, Trump has designated Greenland as a soft target. It has a sparse population and it’s isolated in the North Atlantic Ocean relatively close to the U.S. Politically, militarily and economically, Greenland, by itself, cannot repel a determined attack by Trump.

Greenland and Denmark are members of NATO whose charter, among other important declarations, states that any attack on a NATO member nation is an attack on all NATO nations. It has been a bedrock of maintaining peace in Europe since World War II.

If Trump were to attack Greenland, whether by force or otherwise, it would constitute an attack on all NATO members. Whether or not the European allies would respond militarily is not the point.

The point is that any such action by the U.S. against Greenland would effectively dissolve NATO which has been Putin’s desire all along. Consider that Putin is terrified of Ukraine becoming a member of NATO.

As the expression so accurately states, Everything Trump Touches Dies.

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Here's my theory about Trump's focus on Greenland (Original Post) PJMcK Saturday OP
They want a Brexit type vote. "by force or otherwise" his tech broligarchy can make that happen underpants Saturday #1
Another disaster engineered by putin. erronis Saturday #9
Trump is like a termite, constantly gnawing on the timbers that hold up this nation Blues Heron Saturday #2
it's even worse Nigrum Cattus Saturday #3
Berlin Conference OC375 Saturday #4
The 1984 division mr715 Saturday #5
Wow OC375 Saturday #6
We've always been at war with East Asia. mr715 Saturday #7
"Oceania, Eurasia, and East Asia"..ding ding ding...We have a winner folks...nt mitch96 Saturday #14
Or maybe Risk. carpetbagger Yesterday #32
The dementia addled clown feels a psychological need to steal Greenland. Snarkoleptic Saturday #8
He's closer to mortality than morality. Harker Saturday #17
Rare minerals mining? Gaytano70 Saturday #10
Found the article... Gaytano70 Saturday #12
Trump wants a legacy. Johonny Saturday #11
He's gonna have a legacy alright, infamy Joinfortmill Saturday #23
Epstein file distraction. Kingofalldems Saturday #13
Your overthinking it LostOne4Ever Saturday #15
Greenland will not become a US State because of Peter Thiel and Elon Musk Sessuch Saturday #18
I don't know what to think for sure but thinking in your direction. Septua 11 hrs ago #35
If you look at everything Trump is doing in the lens of who benefits. Bev54 Saturday #16
That peepee tape must be something. Joinfortmill Saturday #25
I still think it's a SnuffSnuff video. Captain Zero Saturday #27
Well, I've begun to realize he's far more evil than we think. Joinfortmill Yesterday #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Joinfortmill Yesterday #34
Norway, Sweden, Denmark could unleash Thor and his cousins upon TSF. LastDemocratInSC Saturday #19
Trump takes his orders from Putin. hamsterjill Saturday #20
destroy NATO in name only NJCher Saturday #21
If Trump attacks Greenland, we're in unchartered waters Joinfortmill Saturday #22
The significance of Greenland... reACTIONary Saturday #24
NATO doesn't dissolve .... . Bread and Circuses Saturday #26
This makes sense. LuckyCharms Saturday #28
Shipping lanes and defense KT2000 Saturday #29
He has single-handedly killed the World. Totally Tunsie Saturday #30
Doesn't Theil want Greenland?? NoMoreRepugs Yesterday #31

underpants

(195,027 posts)
1. They want a Brexit type vote. "by force or otherwise" his tech broligarchy can make that happen
Sat Jan 10, 2026, 06:18 PM
Saturday

OC375

(460 posts)
4. Berlin Conference
Sat Jan 10, 2026, 06:47 PM
Saturday

Putin gets Europe
Trump gets Greenland down to South America
China gets Asia
Sort out the M.E. later and kick the can on fighting each other.
"Everyone" is happy, as far as they're concerned, and no reason for anyone to mess with the other for a hundred years.
As people have know for years, you can get a lot if you just walk in like you own the place, do what you want, and walk out like it's just another Tuesday with your head held high. Most people won't do a thing.

OC375

(460 posts)
6. Wow
Sat Jan 10, 2026, 06:52 PM
Saturday

I never thought about it in that context, but you're right. Kinda stopped me cold when you posted that...

carpetbagger

(5,415 posts)
32. Or maybe Risk.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 01:04 AM
Yesterday

Venezuela...Greenland... then Kamchatka? The other three territories of South America?

Snarkoleptic

(6,214 posts)
8. The dementia addled clown feels a psychological need to steal Greenland.
Sat Jan 10, 2026, 06:57 PM
Saturday

SMH

https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-interview-us-greenland-grab-nato-preservation-choice/

Trump, when asked why he wanted the U.S. to control Greenland, said: “Because that’s what I feel is psychologically needed for success. I think that ownership gives you a thing that you can’t do with, you’re talking about a lease or a treaty. Ownership gives you things and elements that you can’t get from just signing a document.”

The U.S. president also told the Times he did not feel answerable to international law and was constrained only by his own conscience. “My own morality. My own mind. It’s the only thing that can stop me,” he said.

“I don’t need international law,” he added.

Gaytano70

(1,222 posts)
10. Rare minerals mining?
Sat Jan 10, 2026, 08:26 PM
Saturday

I thought I read that the tech bros want the country to strip mine it. I can't recall the source. It tracks though because this regime is trying to copy the empire from Star Wars as closely as possible

Johonny

(25,507 posts)
11. Trump wants a legacy.
Sat Jan 10, 2026, 08:28 PM
Saturday

Hence the ballroom, hence placing hus name all overz and hence is desperate need to expand America. He wants something that will make him more than a footnote in the history books. The problem is, he is a stupid, lazy person who doesn't have greatness in him. Although, maybe he can destroy 80 years of diplomacy to get a mostly frozen over island for a few years...

LostOne4Ever

(9,737 posts)
15. Your overthinking it
Sat Jan 10, 2026, 08:54 PM
Saturday

Understanding his obsession with Greenland and with Canada becoming a US state is about his Narcissism.

He wants to be known as a president that expanded the American “Empire” to include the entire continent. It’s all about stroking his ego and desire for glory and empire.

Sessuch

(227 posts)
18. Greenland will not become a US State because of Peter Thiel and Elon Musk
Sat Jan 10, 2026, 09:05 PM
Saturday

Theil and Musk want an independent entity where they can set up their own non-government government.

Septua

(2,956 posts)
35. I don't know what to think for sure but thinking in your direction.
Sun Jan 11, 2026, 08:45 PM
11 hrs ago

I just looked up some info on Greenland. The GDP is $3B (180 global rank) a year, fishing is the primary revenue source, Denmark gives the island government $500M-$600M a year, the island is about the size of Mexico, the island surface is 80% covered with ice a mile thick, mining is only a merging industry and it has a U.S. military base.

Trump says the U.S. needs it so Russia or China won't take it. Why would China or Russia want it? How would they go about getting it? And where is the practical value in China, Russia or the U.S. taking ownership? If mining was a serious or viable consideration, you'd think they were already doing it in a serious fashion. So, what's left? A discount on shrimp?

If it isn't narcissism combined with plain stupidity, then maybe it's just distraction. He's got ICE people trying to purge the country of immigrants, now shooting American citizens, declining popularity with his base, GOP lawmakers turning against him, the never ending Ukraine war, the price of groceries, the Epstein files and mid terms that are a real threat to his wannabe dictatorship.

But the sumbich was in the tall weeds the first time around and didn't learn a thing so why expect anything different now?





Bev54

(13,210 posts)
16. If you look at everything Trump is doing in the lens of who benefits.
Sat Jan 10, 2026, 08:56 PM
Saturday

It is all for Putin, including Venezuela oil, China may have to go back to buying from Russia or Trump has already said he would sell to Russia. US doesn't want or need the oil, it is more trouble than it is worth, where is the oil from the tankers? If Trump thought they needed more security in Greenland he could, at any time expand the US bases there and if they wanted the minerals, they can invest in mines as so many other countries have done. Don't need to own the land. However if he wants it to allow Russia access to NW passage it makes sense. I also think he is tanking the US economy for Putin, he wanted everyone, Europe and US destabilized and it is working. Everything Trump is doing works for Putin.

Response to Captain Zero (Reply #27)

LastDemocratInSC

(4,215 posts)
19. Norway, Sweden, Denmark could unleash Thor and his cousins upon TSF.
Sat Jan 10, 2026, 09:06 PM
Saturday

It would help the economy, if nothing else, because roadside velour painting businesses would make a bundle on new items with TSF posing in bronze full body armor with lasers shining and a few grotesque members of the Norse pantheon swooping down from above.

Of couse, TSF would insist on a cut of the deal.



NJCher

(42,524 posts)
21. destroy NATO in name only
Sat Jan 10, 2026, 09:22 PM
Saturday

If he invades Greenland, which is highly unlikely due to the pushback he's already received (this is why he's switched to saying he'll "buy" it), yes, it will dissolve NATO.

It is a mistake to think trump ever does anything for strategic reasons. He flies by the seat of his pants and in this situation is mostly motivated to distract from Epstein. Furthermore, he isn't intelligent enough to put any strategic plan together.

However, the European nations will form a new protective alliance without the U.S. and it will be called something other than "NATO." With the way trump behaves, they are better off that way, anyway. In the last few days, a study was released saying that younger residents of the UK, France, etc., want a unified European approach. They will get something like that if NATO goes by the wayside.

Joinfortmill

(20,128 posts)
22. If Trump attacks Greenland, we're in unchartered waters
Sat Jan 10, 2026, 09:28 PM
Saturday

And, it ain't gonna be pretty. He should have already been impeached.

reACTIONary

(6,987 posts)
24. The significance of Greenland...
Sat Jan 10, 2026, 09:32 PM
Saturday

.... Is its strategic value as global warming opens up a navigable northwest passage.

I think TSF is listening to or is being manipulated by someone who has a long term strategic vision, because he could not come to such a conclusion himself.

It isn't in Putin's interest for an emerging northwest passage to be dominated by US or western countries.

Bread and Circuses

(1,593 posts)
26. NATO doesn't dissolve .... .
Sat Jan 10, 2026, 09:38 PM
Saturday

It re-aligns without the US. Perhaps a good decision for the future of NATO countries. US is a rogue state.

KT2000

(21,967 posts)
29. Shipping lanes and defense
Sat Jan 10, 2026, 11:34 PM
Saturday

The government has been working on a strategy to protect the Arctic for US interests - commerce, defense, and offense. It has been in the works for decades but trump figures he just need more real estate.

https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/Press-Releases/display-pressreleases/Article/2463000/department-of-the-navy-releases-strategic-blueprint-for-a-blue-arctic/

Page 2 at this link shows how minimal the US access to the Arctic shipping lanes is in relation to other countries. It could have been a cooperative arrangement with Greenland/Denmark but trust is broken now.

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