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Look at what Trump has done. (Original Post) In It to Win It Jan 14 OP
No one will stop him vapor2 Jan 14 #1
Malcolm Nance: sop Jan 14 #2
He ought to know the consequences. Unfortunately, tsf and Shithead chicoescuela Jan 14 #3
Stephen Miller needs a trip Mars on a Space X rocket now. Initech Jan 14 #9
Mars? Too close..... lastlib Jan 14 #13
Given Space X's track record with recent launches... Initech Thursday #24
He and all the others in the dumpster administration! debsy Thursday #21
Yup. haele Jan 14 #5
Most of those same billionaires will be persona non grata in most nations Javaman Thursday #20
I love the analysis and the energy, but I'm sure even Malcom knows that's not how this will go down. Ol Janx Spirit Jan 14 #8
It's true. Trump is merely spending the nation's "power capital" that's been built up since WW II. thought crime Thursday #14
Not so fast duckworth969 Thursday #15
I'm not really trying to say "it's all over but the shoutin" at all. I'm just saying that realistically... Ol Janx Spirit Thursday #17
Losing Maersk will be great for increasing prices of everything IronLionZion Jan 14 #11
And I don't see Europe doing any of this half way Javaman Thursday #18
Yeah, but we will have Greenland! It's worth it! Kablooie Thursday #19
Waisting the whole worlds time on this BULLSHIT. Klarkashton Jan 14 #4
Gee. Which foreign power is hostile to the US and would benefit from a fractured NATO? Orrex Jan 14 #6
..is that the one that calls him Krasnov? thomski64 Jan 14 #10
Our reign as the world's largest superpower will come to an end. Norbert Jan 14 #7
"Will" come or has already come to an end? I think it has. live love laugh Jan 14 #12
k riversedge Thursday #16
Putin is laughing his ass off wss2001 Thursday #22
Trump: "What good are other countries if I can't rape them?" durablend Thursday #23
Pure madness kwolf68 Thursday #25

chicoescuela

(2,687 posts)
3. He ought to know the consequences. Unfortunately, tsf and Shithead
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 09:22 PM
Jan 14

Miller don’t understand.
We are really screwed.

Initech

(107,702 posts)
9. Stephen Miller needs a trip Mars on a Space X rocket now.
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 10:24 PM
Jan 14

And make it one way. Fuck that guy to hell.

Initech

(107,702 posts)
24. Given Space X's track record with recent launches...
Thu Jan 15, 2026, 09:29 PM
Thursday

He wouldn't make it that far! Bonus points if Elon sets the timer to 42069!

haele

(15,135 posts)
5. Yup.
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 09:34 PM
Jan 14

And all the "American" Billionaires will find that maybe, they can't just go to New Zealand or Malta and hide out in comfort to come back after the dust is settled
It's easier for the rest of the world to cut us off than play US Nationalist games. Yeah, it might hurt them at first, but they can do it.

As a country, we're pretty much toast while we are struggling with the question on what is a normal US Citizen and whether or not this country can survive with classes of people based on birth rather than actual merit. We aren't going to get any help from outside when we need it.

As a country, we are going to have to totally re-jigger our Constitution, and that means all those snowflake mediocre White Guys and over-emotional Talking Heads might find they're going to have to stop pretending Amurrikkka is supposed to be Rich and White if it's going to survive.

It's not going to be fun. But this Country let the "cute" 10 year old smart assed Arsonist take over the house, so now it's got to pay - and unfortunately take a lot of good people and other things with it.
Sorry kids, wish I could have done more.

Javaman

(65,231 posts)
20. Most of those same billionaires will be persona non grata in most nations
Thu Jan 15, 2026, 07:25 PM
Thursday

Everyone is going to circle the wagons if the orange asshole attacks. And the very last thing they want on their soul are his co-conspirators.

Ol Janx Spirit

(774 posts)
8. I love the analysis and the energy, but I'm sure even Malcom knows that's not how this will go down.
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 10:09 PM
Jan 14

The reality is that NATO needs the U.S. more than they need Denmark.

While this is a show of posturing, when push comes to shove it is Denmark that will get shoved.

Greenland will end up as some kind of territory controlled by the U.S. in the end.

And the reason for that is NOT Turnip--it is all the work of all the administrations that worked so hard to build the reputation and power of the U.S. Regardless of--and really despite--the Idiot Orange, we ARE the premier power in the world. And that does not change just because we have Captain Shithead at the helm.

He benefits from all of the hard work and good will and economic and military power that American democracy has built. In the end that will count for more than anything.

Greenland will be a win for the Vulgarian-in-Chief--but not because of him... He will just be taking advantage of what others have done and built.

That describes his life.

What a dumb timeline we are on....

thought crime

(1,300 posts)
14. It's true. Trump is merely spending the nation's "power capital" that's been built up since WW II.
Thu Jan 15, 2026, 12:08 AM
Thursday

But even if Trump somehow takes control of Greenland, what prevents the next president from releasing it back to Denmark?

duckworth969

(1,265 posts)
15. Not so fast
Thu Jan 15, 2026, 01:12 AM
Thursday

Upper brass have real legal qualms about invading Greenland. This isn’t a “legal” snatch and grab like Maduro. There is some pushback against Kegsbreath and Miller.

NATO is on its last legs. Recent Chump admin national strategy plan has it leaving the organization in 2027.

EU is going its own way and they’ll be the better for it. They’re already beginning to box out future US military purchases for Ukraine and they’ve begun pulling back their intel sharing from the US.

The EU already has a larger arctic presence than the US. Putting more troops there now is smart and draws a line in the sand.

Troops in that area of the world train in that harsh environment. Our troops have only recently begun training with the Finns and Swedes in that winter cold.

And as Nance pointed out in his heated post, there’s still a lot the EU could do.

Either way, I don’t think this is going to be an easy in and out, militarily or otherwise. We’ll see who has the stomach for this conflict once troops start dying.

But this “it’s all over but the shoutin” is off the mark.

The Danes have already said they will fire on anybody that enters their territory, and they’re motivated. Once the shooting starts, no telling how it’ll go.

Russkies thought they had a cakewalk with Ukraine, didn’t they?

Besides, we’re the bad guys in this, I want to see us get our noses good and bloodied. Wipe the smug expression off of American arrogance.

Last years of my life living in a fascist country.

What a timeline indeed.

Ol Janx Spirit

(774 posts)
17. I'm not really trying to say "it's all over but the shoutin" at all. I'm just saying that realistically...
Thu Jan 15, 2026, 11:39 AM
Thursday

...very few of those things are likely to happen--in large part because of the success of our democratic institutions in building the U.S. into a formidable economic and military force in the years preceding Agent Orange.

In the end, the Greenland conflict seems like it will be fought by diplomats and not soldiers. Sure, some NATO allies are trying to make it look like a military stand is being taken, but in the end is there a real appetite for war--or even armed conflict--with the U.S.? Those moves feel more designed to force diplomacy and signal to the U.S. that NATO can in fact defend Greenland from Russia or Chinese aggression than to really signal a willingness to fight the U.S.

And we have some precedent for NATO allowing infighting to occur without destroying the alliance in the Greco-Turkish conflicts that have long plagued the two bitter rivals and the alliance.

There is a lot the EU could do, but those moves are as likely to fracture their coalition as they are to be effective in repelling the U.S. Even given their fairly robust response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the EU still hasn't ended all Russian gas and oil imports--and are not even committed to do so until 2027. We hate what you did, but we will still buy your oil and gas for another five years doesn't exactly scream backbone....

The truth is, the world in which we now live helped create the monster they now face in us. We looked stable, responsible, benevolent, and powerful. But even though we've apparently lost our minds, they still need us in many ways. It will be hard for them to abandon that--and it seems unfathomable that it would happen all at once over a dispute over an outlying territory.

It will--no doubt--change a lot of things in the alliance. EU will need to make a plan just in case we are unable to reign this in.

Still, in the end it will probably be true that when you're a superpower, they let you do it. You can do anything.... Grab 'em by the natural resources....

I guess we will all see how this goes....

IronLionZion

(50,886 posts)
11. Losing Maersk will be great for increasing prices of everything
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 11:21 PM
Jan 14

MAGA likes drugs from Novo Nordisk. How about Legos?

MAGA are probably too dumb to connect those consequences. They still think somebody else pays tariffs.

Javaman

(65,231 posts)
18. And I don't see Europe doing any of this half way
Thu Jan 15, 2026, 06:44 PM
Thursday

They know full well what fascism is

They will fall on us like a fucking ton of bricks

Klarkashton

(4,799 posts)
4. Waisting the whole worlds time on this BULLSHIT.
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 09:22 PM
Jan 14

Sedate that bastard so he doesn't hurt anybody anymore

Orrex

(66,737 posts)
6. Gee. Which foreign power is hostile to the US and would benefit from a fractured NATO?
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 09:44 PM
Jan 14

Bonus points if you can tell us which hostile foreign power more or less dictates Trump's foreign policy.

Norbert

(7,614 posts)
7. Our reign as the world's largest superpower will come to an end.
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 10:00 PM
Jan 14

But I thought we would be respected around the world.

wss2001

(85 posts)
22. Putin is laughing his ass off
Thu Jan 15, 2026, 07:53 PM
Thursday

We have members of NATO are planning a defense against the US! His asset has succeeded beyond all expectations.

kwolf68

(8,286 posts)
25. Pure madness
Thu Jan 15, 2026, 09:50 PM
Thursday

Never thought Id see the day France could mobilize against the USA. We've literally replaced Nazi Germany in this movie.

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