This article proves Trump voters will never turn on him.

[Coventina]

A Trump Veto Leaves Republicans in Colorado Parched and Bewildered

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“I can’t believe he would do that to us,” said Shirley Adams, the Republican mayor of the tiny farming town of Manzanola, whose groundwater is tainted by naturally occurring uranium. She said she voted for Mr. Trump and still supported him, but felt stung by the veto.

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But if Colorado Democrats are hoping for widespread Republican defections, they will almost certainly be disappointed. Many Republican voters in the area who disagreed with the veto said they were past second-guessing their support for Mr. Trump.

Toni Hughes, a cattle rancher who was getting highlights one recent morning at a salon in Manzanola, said she held her tongue last year when other ranchers criticized Mr. Trump over his move to import more beef from Argentina. She said she would give him the benefit of the doubt on the veto.

“I don’t understand why” he killed the bill, she said, but “I guarantee you he’s done it for a reason.”

At the far eastern end of the pipeline’s planned route, some conservatives even embraced Mr. Trump’s veto.

Dave Esgar, a fifth-generation resident of the tiny ranching town of Wiley, 100 miles east of Pueblo, said the government had already wasted decades and hundreds of millions of dollars on the pipeline, and that it was time to give up on the project.

“It’s a total waste,” he said. “Most of us will be dead by the time it ever gets here.”

The piped water in Wiley exceeds federal limits for radium, so people in town install filtration systems at home or fill bottles at a tap outside the local water provider.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/17/us/politics/colorado-water-trump-veto.html?

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Trump could murder their family in front of their eyes and they would STILL vote for him.
They are lost.
We need NEW voters, and stop wasting time and money on these dead-enders.

[GiqueCee]

1. I saw a video...

... here on DU not long ago wherein a bewildered and hurt brother and sister podcasting team listened to their father say that if Trump suggested that someone kill his son, then Mr. Trump would have had a good reason for it. That's how sick and depraved his hard-core sycophants really are. They are beyond redemption or forgiveness.

[Coventina]

2. He is their god. You don't question your god. It's a mass psychosis.

Horrific.

I have no hope for these people.
About 30-40% of our fellow citizens are psychotic.

Terrifying.

[Nasruddin]

29. I fear

it's more than that

[RetiredParatrooper]

21. That YT channel is called 'The Necessary Conversation'

Right here:

https://www.youtube.com/@TheNecessaryConversation

[GiqueCee]

23. Thanks for the heads up...

... that's the podcast I was referring to.

[Faygo Kid]

3. 50+ years of dear friendship down the drain

We have been through so much together - death, divorces and so much more - yet I lost them in 2016 when I criticized Trump. And have never gotten them back. This past Christmas I wished them a merry one, through a dear friend. They still hate me. Heartbreaking any way you want to consider it. Do not expect any conversions from your friends who are in the Trump cult. It won't ever happen. We here at DU must be the ones that stop him.

[Coventina]

4. Same. I have friends (former friends) who worship Trump.

Known them since our teen years.

All gone now.....

Friendship, love, history, family.....none of it matters when it comes to Dear Leader.

And one of their sons just came out as gay.

I wonder how that's going to work out, but I'm not contacting them to find out.

[kimbutgar]

9. Ditto

Lost two longtime friends that I’ve known over 40 years. Neither will speak to me.

[Trueblue Texan]

12. I hope you consider that a gift! nt

[Fiendish Thingy]

5. These cherry picked anecdotes aside, Trump voters will abandon the Republicans in large numbers in November

If not by voting for democrats, then by staying home.

The widespread suffering caused by Trump 2.0 will unify a vast majority of the people against this administration.

Only a small portion of the electorate, about 15%, are die hard MAGA cultists; the rest of Trump’s voters are either knee jerk conservatives or low information swing voters, and the latter are swinging hard back to Dems.

Nothing can stop the Blue Tsunami this November.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

22. Yep.

Storm's a-comin & it's blue.

[Mz Pip]

32. It will only take a couple of % points

Diehard MAGAs aren’t the only ones who voted for him. He’s bleeding the support he had with Independents.

[markodochartaigh]

6. The maga cult are actually the ones with

Trump derangement syndrome. It is a belief system like a religion or like patriotism. It is the same force that can cause a soldier to go into battle. The Trumpsters genuinely believe in Trump, and the maga ideals.
And this belief is non-rational. It isn't based on facts and logic, although the Trumpsters think it is. This is the basis for Daniel Patrick Moynihan's famous quote "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not to their own facts". If you can't even agree on the facts, you can't have a productive debate, you can't change someone's mind.

[kimbutgar]

7. If my liberal sistwr in law gave an ultimatum to her maga husband to stop watching fox and supporting the

🍊💩🐖 or she’d divorce him. He would choose Hitler 2.0. Sadly. Married over 32years 3 adult children he’s that far gone. He will barely acknowledge me when we visit them.

[ZDU]

8. CULT

It's a fucking cult. People need to pull their heads out of their asses and wake the fuck up...

[keep_left]

10. "He's not hurting the right people!".

That's a paraphrase from a quote in a NYT article about (delusional) working-class Trump voters. It was featured prominently on Rachel Maddow's show as well. MAGA chuds are perpetually perplexed by the one-way loyalty that Trump demands, and they are endlessly surprised when he sells them out--over and over again.

The full quote is "I thought he was going to do good things. He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting!"...Trump's policies weren't attacking the brown people enough, and were in fact harming nice white people like her.

https://democraticunderground.com/100220910509#post12
https://democraticunderground.com/10143573112
https://democraticunderground.com/10143573112#post19

That was the bon mot from an interview with a MAGA chud in the NYT. Chud lives are apparently miserable enough that if Trump isn't beating up on minorities, poor people, LGBTQ, etc. on a regular basis, they go into a tailspin because Trump isn't giving them their constant media dopamine hit to which they have become accustomed.

https://democraticunderground.com/100220834675#post13

[Joinfortmill]

25. Wow, what sick fucks. It's all about hurting someone,

anyone, apparently, except them.

[eppur_se_muova]

11. "I'm sure he has a reason." He always does -- financial self-interest. Follow the money, it never lies. nt

[dalton99a]

13. People who voted for him twice are an utter waste of time and energy.

[Coventina]

15. And resources. n/t

[fujiyamasan]

17. Remember, some people voted for him three times

[dlk]

14. Some Americans are so rigid with their thinking

They are incapable of stretching their minds to take in new information, and are completely stuck.

Trump could burn down their homes, in front of their eyes, and they would still defend him.

Trump understands this very well. It’s where his shoot someone on 5th Avenue came from.

[sakabatou]

16. Welcome to r/LeopardsAteMyFace

It's a cult. A fucking cult.

[Warpy]

18. White power bigots and religious wackadoodles, no

The rest are very much disgusted by everything he's done over the past year, from from foreign policy bungles that have exposed him as Putin's pawn while his family tries to maximize their future cash flow to the daily outrages committed by ICE and the way rogue agents are being shielded from consequences. The man is evil and anyone who isn't nuts can see it clearly now.

Even the Nazis are going to notice if the big tech bust happens in the next 3 years.

[czarjak]

19. "Nothing you say will change my mind."

I was informed! 2012 too. Still claiming lib ownership though?

[BaronChocula]

20. Necessary distinction, if I may

There are trump voters and there's the maga cult. The trump voters include the cult AS WELL AS low-info unsophisticated voters who can't process the fact that a conman with ridiculous makeup raging about people coming to America to eat your pets is way too bananas to have the nuclear codes. These are whimsical voters who may flip a coin to decide who to vote for.

The cult on the other hand is all in. Even when the raging conman with ridiculous makeup does wrong in their eyes, he can do no wrong. That's speaking generally. Some have left the cult. But as for the balance that remain in his hold, why is anyone still amazed after ten years of this bullshit?

[ChicagoTeamster]

24. Doctors and Medical Service Providers should abandon these assholes and the kids with minds should leave.

Anyone with half a brain knows that the water project would have improved quality of life and lowered that expense for everyone but the assholes don't want safe air and water so why would any educated professional or future educated professional want to live among these people. They'll get you killed.

Democrats should start bypassing these areas with any highway or utility projects that do get through so they die off and become ghost towns. Or move the data centers there. Does the radium in the water effect the cooling of the computer systems and power generation systems? Let them pay more for water and electricity.

[Farmer-Rick]

26. Here's the thing

The "cult" of Trump isn't really all in. They say shit like, "I'll kill my firstborn for Trump." Or "he can grab my 12 year old daughter anytime".

But they just say shit to blend in and not become a target for all the other liars, scum, Nazis and pedos they hang with. Some are true believers but not as many as you think. The rest may have one or two issues they love in Trump but not enough to suffer severe losses for him.

They just say crap to avoid being outed. I mean it's tough finding a friend circle that will help you out in a pickle. So, to get that support, they say crap to make others think they are true believers.

But hang with them and you'll hear them make snide remarks about Trump and wishy washy support for him. A few have actually confessed to me that they never voted for the pedo.

I live in the middle of the rural Bible belt red Trump country. And it ain't all it's cracked up to be.

[Nasruddin]

28. Interesting

That's preference falsification, and it might be happening.

I just don't believe it. They're trying to fit in with you is my guess. So you don't know which way the PF is running.

[Farmer-Rick]

33. Well, they volunteer this info

Without me saying anything. And I keep my mouth shut unless they confront me.

I don't know, would you denigrate your god to someone who's an outsider? I've lived her for 25 years but I'm still considered an outsider because of my accent and I don't go to their churches.

Why would they want to fit in with me?

Don't get me wrong, I have had some out and out arguments with these folks. They assume I'm their political persuasion until I set them straight. But even rural populations are large enough to get lost among total strangers now and then.

I don't know but seems to me there is a lot of false posturing going on. Even the crazy with all the trump trash on his house has taken it all down.

[Nasruddin]

27. They will never give in

They will be lying cold, alone, sick and starving in a ditch, with an ICEstapo trooper standing on their neck beating them with a bat, and the last words on their lips will be "MAGA! More Trump!"

[NJCher]

30. this is true of persuasion in general

You cannot persuade anyone. You can get a temporary change, but it will boomerang right back to what the person's previous position was.

No one will want to hear this, but I've taught grad level persuasion courses for years and I have reams of scholarly studies backing what I'm saying.

This isn't anything special about trump. I could explain the phenomenon a little more specifically, but I doubt anyone would want to read it so I won't waste my time.

[ToxMarz]

31. Yes the typical Republican voter mindset

““It’s a total waste,” he said. “Most of us will be dead by the time it ever gets here.”

Sort like the Internet was, computer and personal computers were, the Interstate Highway system was, etc, etc, etc.

You have nice things because your forefathers weren't as selfish as you all are now. And you all are bound and determined you ARE going to take it all with you. Leave nothing for anyone else, if you can't have it no one will.

[littlemissmartypants]

34. 📌 Folks keep wondering why we have 30% of the population that's so deranged and as undemocratic as recalcitrant...

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I'd like to offer a suggestion:

Psychopaths

Psychopathy is a very common
mental disorder. It is twice as
common as schizophrenia,
anorexia, and bipolar disorder.
It is equally common as bulimia,
panic disorder, and autism.
The only mental disorders
significantly more common than
psychopathy are substance abuse
or dependence, depression, and
post-traumatic stress disorder.

Psychopathy affects all
ethnic, cultural, racial,
and socioeconomic groups.

...psychopathy
is a spectrum disorder,

Prevalence in the United States
Approximately 70% of the
population is estimated to
have no psychopathic traits
whatsoever.

Key Point
👇👇👇👇👇👇
The remaining
30% have low, medium, or
high levels of psychopathy.

Source:
https://psychopathyis.org/stats/

[richdj25]

35. Hey Folk, I mean no disrespect

to anyone but these Maga voters you speak of have been around for as long as I remember My 93 year old mother had denoted the same. To us African Americans, Maga is nothing more than the Tea Party redux and before that, just plain old redneck Klan, Nazis, etc.

From our perspective, we simply can't discern any reason why Maga would turn their backs on Trump. He's given them the ultimate freedom to come out and be themselves, for all to the world to see. In other words, there's no shame in their deplorable game.

[Girard442]

36. Book of Genesis, Chapter 22.