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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"They've changed their faces to please the patriarchy."
Someone I follow on Bluesky reposted this...
They've changed their faces to please the patriarchy. It's not about what types of women those patriarchal men personally prefer; it's about showing those men that they are willing to submit. And it's a specific kind of look. It shows their willingness to be controlled.
— Kimberley Johnson (@kimberleyjohnson.bsky.social) 2026-01-18T23:23:16.361Z
PatSeg
(53,214 posts)GopherGal
(2,908 posts)for all the scary Merde-a-Lago-fied faces pictured!
I gotta go find some brain bleach!
PatSeg
(53,214 posts)but they still freak me out.
I'll never understand how normal looking people would do stuff like that to their face. I know it is some form of dysmorphia that requires therapy, not surgery, but you'd think that once and awhile, they might see a reflection or a photo that might wake them up to how horrifying they look.
Joinfortmill
(21,187 posts)Srkdqltr
(9,770 posts)niyad
(132,499 posts)Srkdqltr
(9,770 posts)niyad
(132,499 posts)And do.
Coventina
(29,751 posts)highplainsdem
(62,215 posts)Jerry2144
(3,275 posts)by Genesis. They look freakishly bad and ugly. I guess the outsides now match the insides.
lastlib
(28,286 posts)JEEZ, LouEEZE, that one gives me nightmares!
Solomon
(12,644 posts)leftstreet
(40,727 posts)I don't think I'd ever seen her much til recently. Why would she want to look like...whatever
Good grief these people are nutz
Aristus
(72,199 posts)n/t
3catwoman3
(29,426 posts)Deuxcents
(26,947 posts)PatSeg
(53,214 posts)llmart
(17,625 posts)they could afford better plastic surgeons.
PatSeg
(53,214 posts)There are actors who we know have had work done, but they still look like themselves. Jane Fonda comes to mind, though I know there are others. Not sure if it has to do with the expertise of the surgeon or the demands of the client.
whathehell
(30,470 posts)a few do, but most just look like women who've applied makeup and /or changed their hairstyle..
AZJonnie
(3,707 posts)that they've gone under the knife. The others are pretty dang obvious, though Lara's is the next most subtle, I still deem it unlikely to be natural. The other 7 (edit: Sorry, meant to say 4), it's absolutely glaring to me
Bristlecone
(11,112 posts)But more to come Im sure.
whathehell
(30,470 posts)first question would be is "why does it matter"?...The last thing I'm concerned about in regard to these women is what they do with their faces.
The second would be about your experience and/ or expertise with plastic surgery.. I'm sorry, but I'm going to guess that in your case, and that of most here, it's little to none...just sayin'.
AZJonnie
(3,707 posts)But I have watched a lot of people get older naturally, changed hairstyle and makeup, and it doesn't look like this. I suppose in particular I'm not 100% sure what the definition of plastic surgery is (like, do cheek implants count? Facelifts? Nose Jobs?), precisely, so that may a failure in my understanding. Perhaps some of these things they're doing to themselves is not permanent, like things that inflate lips and remove wrinkles and such. But I as I say apart from Leavitt (who def. seems to at least have had a nose job) and perhaps Lara Trump (of this set) I'm very confident at minimum there's injections of various agents, not just hairstyle and makeup changes. And no way have Loomer, Sanchez, and Guilfoyle not had serious surgery, they look way too different, and I'd suspect Noem has as well, but I'm not 100% 'up' on what's possible to do 'chemically'
whathehell
(30,470 posts)quality of 'assessment' here, and a past job working for a plastic surgeon, I'll claim greater knowledge than most here..
That said, the greater point to me is its irrelevance. Women (and increasingly men) of all political stripes choose it, so I find the "shaming" of it a tad dated and juvenile.
AZJonnie
(3,707 posts)allegorical oracle
(6,482 posts)Maru Kitteh
(31,772 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(23,257 posts)Melania and Ivanka.
Just sayin
Alice B.
(735 posts)Hunh.
3catwoman3
(29,426 posts)...like she did in her early modeling pictures.
https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?p=melani+trump+face+before+and+after&fr=mcafee&type=E210US1641G0&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.images.express.co.uk%2Fimg%2Fdyna
Fla Dem
(27,640 posts)Ivanka had her share of face work too. Luckily her looks weren't destroyed. Detailed explanation off the work
done on her face at link.
3catwoman3
(29,426 posts)JustAnotherGen
(38,056 posts)Look more like her mom.
Joinfortmill
(21,187 posts)struggle4progress
(126,184 posts)eppur_se_muova
(41,955 posts)Hugin
(37,849 posts)*blech* This reversal of before and after photos leaves me underwhelmed.
I may not have much of a future, but my Slime(tm) 12V Tire Inflator with super bright LED roadside safety light apparently does.
AZJonnie
(3,707 posts)IOW, if this is the female "look" that the Mar A Lago male crowd prefers, one might argue it's because they're a bunch of closeted subby beta men (nothing wrong with that, to be clear, but I'm sure they don't like being called that, so I will).
That's leaving aside these ladies own personal motivations, which I'm disinclined to proclaim myself as an arbiter thereof, but the authors assessment def. seems plausible
Joinfortmill
(21,187 posts)ToxMarz
(2,940 posts)Never talked back and oh so pretty!
stage left
(3,308 posts)They look like the nightmare before Christmas.
The Madcap
(1,907 posts)And go into the "beautification" business. How could any of them like what they have become?
It would be interesting to know the spread of years between the photos to be able to account for normal aging.
appleannie1
(5,457 posts)Ars Longa
(525 posts)Chellee
(2,300 posts)All of them were much better looking before. Four of them, legitimately quite pretty. None of them went to bad surgeons. They requested this look. Laura Loomer was a normal. average looking woman, and now she's actually frightening. Like children crying, horses rearing scary. Why would anyone want that? And who are the men that think this is attractive?
Disaffected
(6,412 posts)are they recasting for a Planet of the Apes sequel? Especially top left and lower right...
GopherGal
(2,908 posts)appear to me to be the two that show a considerable over-infatuation with eye makeup. So those two might be reversible.
cachukis
(3,950 posts)dedl67
(225 posts)OMGWTF
(5,133 posts)canetoad
(20,769 posts)But Kimberly Gargoyle is worst.
Buddyzbuddy
(2,647 posts)I'm guessing the plastic modelers (Doctors)
spent some time with them to get an understanding of the real person.
Orrex
(67,116 posts)Swede
(39,523 posts)Almost.
MissouriDem47
(421 posts)Great Collection of Plastic surgery failures. Every one of them ruined their looks and they now look far worse than before.
kimbutgar
(27,257 posts)But they are probably brain poisoned by all those Botox fillers.
eppur_se_muova
(41,955 posts)
hvn_nbr_2
(6,794 posts)If those were "before" and "after" pics to advertise cosmetic surgery, I would think they mixed up the "before" and "after."
Surgery to make you look non-human? Sheesh.
synni
(778 posts)At least SK surgeons know how to make people look human.
These women look as if they had their procedures done at the local 7-Eleven.
BBbats
(309 posts)Was far more attractive before the change.
At least to me. Granted I should be the last to comment on one's looks but...,....
2naSalit
(102,843 posts)Even become a 'look'? How did that ever become a 'look'?
FakeNoose
(41,677 posts)This has been rampant among in Hollywood movie and TV stars for over 30 years. I can remember Lisa Rinna being one of the first, but there have been so many others!
Jrose
(1,532 posts)The evil and artificiality that dwells in those women's souls has been accelerated and brought to the surface by the magic of Botox.
Response to highplainsdem (Original post)
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Offended the rest of humanity.
bluestateboomer
(549 posts)in the whole bunch. Sad
spike jones
(2,020 posts)LilElf70
(1,573 posts)Trueblue Texan
(4,470 posts)Now they look like the vile is oozing right out of their souls.
maspaha
(745 posts)I want to know who the plastic surgeon was so Ill know who NOT to have do work on my face!
sop
(18,653 posts)"The $200K+ Power Face"
"This is the real deal bold, architectural, and immaculately maintained. Every feature is sculpted with precision by top-tier facial plastic surgeons using the best techniques and technologies. Over the course of years, its refined with surgical interventions like deep plane facelifts, brow lifts, lip lifts, and hairline workfollowed by strategic touch-ups with filler, botox, lasers, and skincare."
"The result? A face that whispers wealth, not fad."
"Investment: $200,000$300,000 over a decade"
https://www.virginiafacialplasticsurgery.com/blog/the-mar-a-lago-face
thought crime
(1,576 posts)Sparkly
(24,885 posts)In so many ways, it's all part of the same thing.
MagickMuffin
(18,322 posts)They weren't happy with the way "god" made them. I suppose god will have his revenge in the end of life stages!
electric_blue68
(26,877 posts)mwmisses4289
(4,210 posts)You're right, most of them were somewhat pretty before they went for the gargoyle look.
johnnyfins
(3,778 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(179,935 posts)I feel sorry for these ladies
GoCubsGo
(34,919 posts)All of them should have left well-enough alone.