Europe is rearming itself.

[drray23]

I have a subscription to a French newspaper (my hometown), and today there is an article about the fact that the French automaker Renault is going to start producing military drones in two of its factories.

https://www.ouest-france.fr/economie/entreprises/renault/renault-va-produire-des-drones-aeriens-militaires-dans-des-usines-francaises-35548f8e-f557-11f0-9160-764ed90b3d12

The goal is to ramp up production to help Ukraine, while also modernizing French defense capabilities with modern military drones.

Trump is stimulating the European military industrial complex. Europe is also seeking alternative trade deals with the rest of the world, seeking to disengage from the United States.

Trump, true to himself, will manage to tank our country like he tanked every business he has run, including casinos.

In a decade from now, Europe will rival the US in terms of military power. They already are on our footing economically if they band together.

[Fiendish Thingy]

1. Good. Nt

[DavidDvorkin]

2. Trump, who doesn't know history, is unaware of past European millitary might

And you don't have to know much history to know about that!

[Coventina]

3. I seriously wonder if Trump has actually ever read a book in his entire life.

(kid lit doesn't count)

[GoneOffShore]

5. Mein Kampf?

[artemisia1]

8. No, he read "Mein Kampf". Audiobook, though. /nt

[LymphocyteLover]

10. he had a book of Hitler's speeches on his nightstand, according to Ivana (1st wife)

and he probably read it since he's uses so much Hitlerian rhetoric

[LiberalArkie]

27. A lot of people have a bible on a table, doesn't mean they do anything but dust it.

[LymphocyteLover]

43. you seriously don't think he ever read any of Hitler's speeches? Because if nothing else, he knows how to be a demagogue

[LiberalArkie]

49. If he read anything, it would be the Clift notes. Probably what his dad told him. Same place most bigots got their

beliefs.

[LymphocyteLover]

53. Clearly he is not a big reader... but I bet he read at least a couple of the speeches

[MadameButterfly]

46. You think he's read kid lit?

[QueerDuck]

48. Not even a single Hardy Boys. I doubt he's even read Goodnight Moon to any of his kids or grandkids.

[MadameButterfly]

52. LOL at the image of Trump reading Good Night Moon

to toddlers at bedtime.

It reminds me of when we saw a photo of Tim Walz petting someone's cat, and we realized that we couldn't imagine Trump petting an animal.

[AntiFascist]

13. Hopefully they would come to our aid for liberation just as we did for them in WWII n/t

[Chi67]

15. I used to doubt that

But if we invade Greenland, which will also activate Canada under NATO, then I think we could definitely be facing invasion from Europe.

Here's the thing though- tons of civilians and US vets would help European forces bring the administration down.

[liberalla]

17. I hope so. I wish they would stop him now.

[calimary]

24. So do I.

[AntiFascist]

26. It could be very bloody, but restoring the Constitutional Order within the US would be worth it! n/t

[MadameButterfly]

47. Trump controls the major supply of arms

Planes, tanks, nukes....This isn't like Civil War days when a guy with a gun could make a difference.
Also, Europe would be fighting a US/Russia alliance. I don't see a military solution.
But Russia is economically weak, and under Trump we may become so. Europe could win the economic war, impose sanctions, etc.
A Republican regime won't survive that.

[wiggs]

4. Not a stretch to say that Europe is under threat from both Russia and the US. Sea change in global order. nt

[Cha]

7. No.. not a stretch.. it's apparent to

me that's what PEDO Nazi & Puppet Master are gunning for.

[Cha]

6. Excellent to know... I wish the Very

Best for France and Europe... All Democracy Loving Countries.

Mahalo, drray

[liberalla]

18. I too wish the best for them!

I hate that we are doing this to them/NATO.

[BurnDoubt]

9. Not to mention...

Making the World a more volatile place.
What is wrong with you if you think this is a good thing?
The World was a much, much better place under the Sane President, Joe Biden.

[Cha]

21. It's Called Defense... Protecting your

Country and Democracy.

There's Nothing "wrong" with those who are grateful for this.

[calimary]

25. Sure makes me miss President Biden all the more, I must say.

[creon]

29. Jake Tapper

Jake Tapper told us that Biden is demeted.

[liberalla]

31. I usually manage to resist the impulse to say this, but

FUCK HIM

!!!!!!!!!

[Cha]

33. Yes!! I don't "resist".. it's a

coping mechanism.

[liberalla]

38. I use the word plenty, because it is very satisfying to say! As you said, it helps one to cope. It helps

reduce any building stress or pressure... like letting a little air out of a balloon.

(I do resist typing it -- a forever permanent online record of my weakness)

[Cha]

40. Oh if my RL family and friends could

see me now... They would think I have 2 personalities.

I say it in my head but not out loud... I guess I do have 2 personalities.

Not "weakness" Strong Passionate Emotions about our Democracy slapping away and wanting something to be Done!

[creon]

37. Tapper is poor.

I do not respect him

[liberalla]

39. He's pretty lame... no gravitas. Not a deep thinker...

What IS he good at? Or good for?

[Cha]

32. Jake Tapper is a Nazi Appeaser.. A

Media*****.

Wonder If he has anything to say about the reality of the Demented Nazi PEDO inside the WH.

[creon]

36. He will not say anything.

Tapper will be silent about el gringo loco

He might say something when he finds it safe.

[BurnDoubt]

41. Apologies.

My post was intended as a rebuke of Trump and his making ALL this shit necessary.
Somehow, it was plain to my ear, but apparently I was obtuse. Thanks for drawing my attention to my error.
It’s a travesty that we even have to have this, and all the other discussions we’re forced to have.

[littlemissmartypants]

42. Three of every ten people in the US population are psychopaths.

Psychopathy is a very common mental disorder. It is twice as common as schizophrenia, anorexia, and bipolar disorder. It is equally common as bulimia, panic disorder, and autism. The only mental disorders significantly more common than psychopathy are substance abuse or dependence, depression, and post-traumatic stress disorder.

Estimates of the prevalence of psychopathy vary depending on the measure used to assess it, and on the population being assessed. Because psychopathy is a spectrum disorder, prevalence estimates also vary depending on the “cutoff” that researchers use.

Approximately 70% of the population is estimated to have no psychopathic traits whatsoever. The remaining 30% have low, medium, or high levels of psychopathy

Psychopathy affects all ethnic, cultural, racial, and socioeconomic groups.

Snip...
https://psychopathyis.org/stats/

[Paladin]

11. Fully justifiable action, by Europe.

It's been a few generations since the last time, but there's still plenty of evidence in Europe of the sort of damage a crazed, self-centered, unchecked autocrat can do.

[Renew Deal]

12. Europe should have done this in 2022

But better late than never.

[KPN]

14. And in the process of tanking our country , the pig

is simultaneously destabilizing the globe. Trump sees global order as a Game of Thrones. Europe is taking a very wise step in rearming itself.

[Bluetus]

16. It took a world war to stop Hitler. Can we do better?

Looking at the Ukraine war, we see that Russia, like the US, is locked into a vision of warfare that was outdated 50 years ago. Ukraine is using modern drone technology in a way that has a 100:1 advantage in terms of cost and effectiveness. It is noteworthy that Europe is scaling up production of drones while Trump is still thinking in terms of battleships and billion dollar fighter jets.

[Shipwack]

55. THIS! A thousand times this!

I’ve been saying this for a while: Too many strategic planners are making preparations for winning the last war. Large ships (from destroyers up to and including carriers) have been obsolete ever since the Brits lost the Hermes and the ineptly named Invincible during the Falkland war.

Now (relatively) cheap drones can do the same thing, and even low value targets are on the table. A nation with a relatively small budget doesn’t have to spend hundreds of of millions on developing or buying advanced missiles systems.

[spanone]

19. K&R

[bluestarone]

20. Yep they are forced to relive HITLER, (only it's the United States this time)

SHAME on us.

[Buddyzbuddy]

22. After Brexit, he has managed to unify Europe

by just threatening to steal Greenland. Pootie must be pissed.

[BidenRocks]

23. Shitler didn't learn from Ukraine either.

All the military bases will be covered in swarms of drones, effectively closing the field. cratering if necessary to make sure. Only cargo planes leaving full and arriving empty are allowed.
Ask Putin how you can beat a drone assault. Good luck!

Next are the air tankers. Without them there is no attack. Give them a hostile escort out of NATO airspace.

Sell some securities to help chump crater our economy. I support anything you do to hurt this wayward country.

One last thing? Get the fuck out of Greenland. No more Pituffik.

[creon]

28. It needs to be done.

Europe needs to be prepared.

[OC375]

30. Europe Invading With Canada Plus Hot Civil War

Wonder what would be left of MN, where I live?

[yellow dahlia]

34. I am using the word surreal regularly, today.

[WarGamer]

35. Good.

[DFW]

44. Most European nations still have a Ministry/Department of Defense

Only the USA changed that back to Department of War.

The distinction was not lost on anyone.

[fujiyamasan]

45. I'm not quite convinced

They have a lot of major hurdles to get past to match US military or tech supremacy in any way.

Even Europeans would admit they put themselves in this spot. They should have been smarter in realizing they couldn’t always rely on the US for their security.
They sat around getting insulted by the likes of Rumsfeld when the US invaded Iraq. Then they continued importing almost all of their natural gas from Russia. Now they’re hopelessly dependent on the US for natural gas (which is probably a weapon Trump will use, just like Putin did a few years ago). He’s a sociopath and wouldn’t care that its winter and people could freeze.

On the positive side, they have invested more in their militaries since 2022. Their defense stocks reflect that.

I hope I’m wrong though and I hope they use all the leverage they have now to force trump to back down. NATO in its current form is likely dead, but a stronger EU military force would be positive step forward for the continent and the world. As we know now, the US is definitely not a force for good globally and for their own sake, I hope other countries are slow and skeptical in trusting the US after this current nightmare is over.

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

54. Same

Europe would require a long term commitment, spending, and recruitment to hope to reach parity with the US. I am not convinced they wont just slow down or reverse course 2 or 3 years from now, especially after they see the price tag required to do it.

[Easterncedar]

50. Hilarious m. The goon insisted they raise their contributions to NATO

It's working out.

[Irish_Dem]

51. Good for Europe. And good news for Ukraine.

Sounds like Europe is finally waking up.