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kentuck

(115,475 posts)
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 09:40 AM Jan 2026

Finally, he has laid all his cards on the table.

Yes, he is a Russian asset.

For some, there has never been any doubt.

But, his threats against Greenland and the NATO alliance have removed all doubts.

All the countries of the world have denounced his intentions to invade Greenland, except one.

The newspapers in Moscow do not have one unkind word for Mr Trump. They applaud his "historical" actions. They stroke his ego and massage all the right places.

But to everyone else, he has gone insane.

He has shown over and over again that his loyalties are with Putin and Russia. From his very first day, when he kicked the American press out of the White House, and was photographed thru the window laughing and joking with Lavrov and the Russian Ambassador. From when he stood on the stage at Helsinki and tore down our own country in defense of Putin, that seemed to be the last straw. But then, he accuses Ukraine of being at fault for Russia invading them. He deserts the NATO alliance to side with Putin as he attempts to conquer Ukraine.

And now, he wants to finish the job for Putin. He is single-handedly tearing down the NATO alliance, the lifetime dream of Vladimir Putin. There can be no more denial. There can be no more excuses. Donald Trump is working for Russia. Putin could do no more damage to America if he was sitting in the White House.

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Finally, he has laid all his cards on the table. (Original Post) kentuck Jan 2026 OP
Putin probably still calls Trump, Krasnov, like I do. gab13by13 Jan 2026 #1
gab... I wouldn't be suprised to find out that slightlv Jan 2026 #15
I had that same thought. yellow dahlia Jan 2026 #42
And once tsf is no longer useful to Putin? chicoescuela Jan 2026 #2
I'm pretty sure they all feel unassailable until about five floors from the sidewalk. Harker Jan 2026 #7
It does seem that way. chicoescuela Jan 2026 #8
Maybe. Harker Jan 2026 #11
Hopefully the same end as the others. And I hate feeling that way Callie1979 Jan 2026 #43
Can no one intercept Trump's calls with Putin and expose what's going on? Chasstev365 Jan 2026 #3
If only Hilary had felt free to elaborate on her puppet accusation Easterncedar Jan 2026 #4
Puppet?! Puppet!! YOU'RE the puppet! Kid Berwyn Jan 2026 #6
It's not " weaponizing" if it's a legitimate case questionseverything Jan 2026 #36
Have to believe that EU/NATO is studying how they will defend themselves minus the US and maybe Turkey dutch777 Jan 2026 #5
NATO is strong even without the USA. OGBuzz Jan 2026 #14
Well thought out statement, dutch... at least, IMO. slightlv Jan 2026 #16
Dutch777, if you have a link on Turkey unwilling to defend NATO duckworth969 Jan 2026 #31
I don't. It's more an inkling that Turkey, really Erdogan, could go its own way. There have been disagreements.... dutch777 Jan 2026 #46
Fox News pushing the Putin agenda too. Doodley Jan 2026 #9
treason... they are an evil force on this country LymphocyteLover Jan 2026 #19
Add to this the US has been caught feeding Ukrainian intelligence to Russia MadameButterfly Jan 2026 #10
just evil LymphocyteLover Jan 2026 #20
I've Said This Since 2016. 😊 But One Nitpick: Putin Might .. ..... ColoringFool Jan 2026 #12
Putin is a sick man and an evil kleptocrat.... Russia is a cruel shithole largely because of Putin's rule LymphocyteLover Jan 2026 #22
Well stated PJMcK Jan 2026 #13
Been saying it since 2015 Grins Jan 2026 #17
Dumbo magats Clouds Passing Jan 2026 #18
True words. spanone Jan 2026 #21
He wants Rebl2 Jan 2026 #23
Brace for impact orangecrush Jan 2026 #24
The real Manchurian candidate Picaro Jan 2026 #25
try 1987... nt. SonOfNebanaube Jan 2026 #53
Actually, he laid his remaining marbles on the table. Now he's lost them all. Martin68 Jan 2026 #26
Hillary tried to warn us. Some of us listened. llmart Jan 2026 #27
Exactly, and... BurnDoubt Jan 2026 #50
We made a HUGE mistake, not voting Hillary into the White House. A calimary Jan 2026 #54
For anyone paying attention, you would know he was a Russian asset/stooge well before he was President. flashman13 Jan 2026 #28
Awesome! nt Exp Jan 2026 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author duckworth969 Jan 2026 #30
9 repug Senators as of this morning won't stand with his Greenland take over. 634-5789 Jan 2026 #32
fetterman? rampartd Jan 2026 #44
Not all. He's still got a run of Aces to play to end the midterms. ancianita Jan 2026 #33
100% correct, Kentuck!! ElementaryPenguin Jan 2026 #34
He's also creating a distraction for NATO countries so Putin could invade the Baltic nations Wicked Blue Jan 2026 #35
opening a western front for nato rampartd Jan 2026 #45
Will He Be Stopped Mr.Bee Jan 2026 #37
Yup, Sooner or later all the unseemly details Joinfortmill Jan 2026 #38
Trump says that Mblaze Jan 2026 #39
If I was a member at MaraLago, I would stay away Captain Zero Jan 2026 #51
They would have to surgically separate their lips Mblaze Jan 2026 #57
France has "independent" nukes (home made, about 495 heads) Justice matters. Jan 2026 #55
He's not playing chess. He no doubt, is helping Putin, he's also a selfish ahole who cares about nobody else. Nobody. themaguffin Jan 2026 #40
Vladamir Putin is the Chairman of the Republican Party OMGWTF Jan 2026 #41
I have felt that way for years LittleGirl Jan 2026 #47
Absolutely 💯 debsy Jan 2026 #48
Fulfilling Kruschev's Prophesy... BurnDoubt Jan 2026 #49
Canada and esp Greenland would be a twofer popsdenver Jan 2026 #52
Our pee resident IS bobalew Jan 2026 #56

gab13by13

(32,530 posts)
1. Putin probably still calls Trump, Krasnov, like I do.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 09:50 AM
Jan 2026

Everything Krasnov touches dies.

He has sided with Russia in the invasion of Ukraine, Ukraine is going to win. This will be the telling year for Putin, if he doesn't make major gains this year he is going to have to retreat in humiliation. Ukraine is going to win without any help from Krasnov.

Putin only has a war economy right now, his domestic economy is in the shitter. He can't bring back the troops from Ukraine, he has to place to put them in Russia, no jobs.

slightlv

(7,865 posts)
15. gab... I wouldn't be suprised to find out that
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 11:28 AM
Jan 2026

many of our tax dollars are surreptitiously finding their way into Russia to prop up Putin...

chicoescuela

(3,136 posts)
2. And once tsf is no longer useful to Putin?
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 09:54 AM
Jan 2026

Out comes all the kompromat and the fall out of a tenth floor window.
The dumbass doesn’t realize that either.

Callie1979

(1,379 posts)
43. Hopefully the same end as the others. And I hate feeling that way
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 05:13 PM
Jan 2026

I would've never said such a thing about George Bush. Or Reagan Or HW Bush. OR McCain.
But none of them were openly backing our enemies as traitors do

Easterncedar

(6,405 posts)
4. If only Hilary had felt free to elaborate on her puppet accusation
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 10:14 AM
Jan 2026

I am sure as Sec of State she knew more than she felt she could say. He should have been prosecuted. If only the Dems had weaponized the DoJ as they were accused of doing. They should have.

dutch777

(5,090 posts)
5. Have to believe that EU/NATO is studying how they will defend themselves minus the US and maybe Turkey
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 10:27 AM
Jan 2026

The writing is on the wall whether over a political issue like Greenland or just that Trump walks us away unilaterally, the fact that they cannot count on us being there when they need us vs. Russia is clear. Not a question of if, just when. Their hard internal issues are that many of their economies are not in great shape, hard tradeoffs between social programs and military spending will have to be made (or taxes increased) and their populations are really not interested in being part of bigger and truly capable militaries which means very unpopular mandatory drafts. Having served in Germany in my army days in the late 70s, while they had a much bigger military force (2500 tanks vs. now 350; 450,000 troops vs. now maybe 200,000), the majority were very poorly motivated draftees just doing their two years and then gone. Certainly actually defending their homeland against immediate aggression would stiffen their resolve but if your training has been nonchalant and you have no serious warfighting experience in the ranks and officer corps, its a big lift to be a capable force overnight. Their other major problem is that the US has the only comprehensive intelligence network-- the satellites, eavesdropping and large scale analysis capability that has the experience in depth as well. Must be a lot of hard conversations and hand wringing going on behind closed doors in the EU.

OGBuzz

(445 posts)
14. NATO is strong even without the USA.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 11:16 AM
Jan 2026

Europe is fully armed and nuclear capable. Putin bit off more than he can chew with Ukraine and is already conscripting men well over the conscription age of 18-30. Putin is a POS but I don't think he is a suicidal POS. Europe will need to maintain the NATO alliance even without America.

NATO minus the United States fields approximately:
▪️2.1 to 2.3 million Active-Duty Personnel
▪️1.7 to 1.9 million Reserves
▪️3.8 to 4.1 million Total Personnel.

duckworth969

(1,394 posts)
31. Dutch777, if you have a link on Turkey unwilling to defend NATO
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:35 PM
Jan 2026

Would appreciate a share 👍🏻

dutch777

(5,090 posts)
46. I don't. It's more an inkling that Turkey, really Erdogan, could go its own way. There have been disagreements....
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 07:13 PM
Jan 2026

between the EU and Erdogan's Turkey on substantive matters economic, political and military over the last decade that opens the strength of relationship to some question in my mind. At the end of the day, Turkey has much more economic interdependency with the EU than Russia and that may be an insurance policy to Turkey's support to NATO. My worry with Turkey, Hungary and even Spain is that for various different reasons at different times they row in their own direction and at their own pace. In matters of political discussion, that is inconvenient but fine. In a military confrontation, arriving late to the matter can be terribly consequential.

MadameButterfly

(4,116 posts)
10. Add to this the US has been caught feeding Ukrainian intelligence to Russia
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 11:07 AM
Jan 2026

so we are actually committing espionage against an ally for Putin's benefit.

ColoringFool

(852 posts)
12. I've Said This Since 2016. 😊 But One Nitpick: Putin Might .. .....
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 11:12 AM
Jan 2026

Actually do LESS harm as POTUS!

That is, were Putin made our leader, he would probably want a STRONG economy! An undestroyed White House! Maybe restore the booze trade with Canada!

😁😁😁😁😁

LymphocyteLover

(9,989 posts)
22. Putin is a sick man and an evil kleptocrat.... Russia is a cruel shithole largely because of Putin's rule
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 11:45 AM
Jan 2026

PJMcK

(25,071 posts)
13. Well stated
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 11:12 AM
Jan 2026

One quibble, though. Netanyahu sides with Trump. The rest of the world does not.

Grins

(9,491 posts)
17. Been saying it since 2015
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 11:32 AM
Jan 2026

Over and over it was right in front of everyone's eyes. And the decent media DID NOTHING!

Picaro

(2,405 posts)
25. The real Manchurian candidate
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 11:58 AM
Jan 2026

Been a few decades since I’ve watched the movie, but Trump has always been the Manchurian candidate.

But that was a movie and this is brutally real.

He is clearly doing Putin’s bidding. Has been since at least 2015.

Amazing that our illustrious media (the orgs that aren’t already fully captured) cannot discern a very obvious pattern of behavior.

llmart

(17,676 posts)
27. Hillary tried to warn us. Some of us listened.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:09 PM
Jan 2026

The smart ones did. She was Secretary of State and knew more about what was going on behind the scenes than the orange monster could ever know. Because of that, Putin was afraid she would win so he did all he could to get Fat Hitler in office.

The gullible ones in our country just couldn't stand the thought of a woman being smarter and more experienced than a man.

calimary

(90,398 posts)
54. We made a HUGE mistake, not voting Hillary into the White House. A
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 12:18 AM
Jan 2026

HUGE mistake. I’m still upset about it.

She would have been GREAT. Absolutely OUTSTANDING.

And instead, we got the Orange Disaster.

flashman13

(2,476 posts)
28. For anyone paying attention, you would know he was a Russian asset/stooge well before he was President.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:22 PM
Jan 2026

They bailed him out financially on several occasions. I don't have any doubt that Epstein was also a Russian asset. They have all the pedo dirt on Trump as well from that source.

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wicked Blue

(8,959 posts)
35. He's also creating a distraction for NATO countries so Putin could invade the Baltic nations
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 01:20 PM
Jan 2026

At least that is my considered opinion. What could be more convenient for Putzin than to have the major European powers deploy military personnel and equipment to defend Greenland? This would slow down NATO's rapid response plan to protect Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania from being quickly overrun by Ruzzia.

I saw in the news from Estonia yesterday that they will send no more than a handful of personnel to Greenland for the planned European military exercises. This tells me they feel the need to keep their defense forces at home in case of an invasion.

rampartd

(4,764 posts)
45. opening a western front for nato
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 05:58 PM
Jan 2026

weakens the east.

does anyone still doubt whose side we are on?

Joinfortmill

(21,413 posts)
38. Yup, Sooner or later all the unseemly details
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 01:46 PM
Jan 2026

will emerge. I hope he's still alive to feel the shame. His name will become a curse.

Mblaze

(1,094 posts)
39. Trump says that
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:07 PM
Jan 2026

If Greenland isn't given to America, Russia or China would take it over. That is an admission that Trump would not join with the rest of NATO to protect Greenland in the unlikely event that China or Russia would attack that country.

Putin has Trump in his back pocket.

Captain Zero

(8,936 posts)
51. If I was a member at MaraLago, I would stay away
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 10:31 PM
Jan 2026

From the club if he invades Greenland.
Things could get surgical quickly.

Justice matters.

(9,929 posts)
55. France has "independent" nukes (home made, about 495 heads)
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 12:39 AM
Jan 2026

France is a member of NATO (signatory of the Article 5 clause by adhesion).

Both Russia and China are well aware. It's called "a MAD" deterent...

The fearmongering lie (called Fascist propaganda) that Russia and China would take over Greenland is just that: Fascistic fearmongering propaganda to distract from the Trump-Epstein files.

Of course, they deny being Nazis using Nazi methods...


themaguffin

(5,289 posts)
40. He's not playing chess. He no doubt, is helping Putin, he's also a selfish ahole who cares about nobody else. Nobody.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:18 PM
Jan 2026

LittleGirl

(8,999 posts)
47. I have felt that way for years
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 07:35 PM
Jan 2026

Just his actions show his favoritism to Vlad.
It’s disgusting so many were fooled.

His wife, Epstein and the whole list of suicides/hits on people…what is it going to take?

Are we there yet? Enough is enough.

popsdenver

(2,420 posts)
52. Canada and esp Greenland would be a twofer
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 10:32 PM
Jan 2026

Pleasing the Trump CABAL of Republican Oligarchs and Politicians.........

AND most of all

Pleasing Putin immensely.......Everyone is missing that Putin wants them both, in the worst way, and later on Alaska.....

So anything that Trump does, he pleases both of his masters: 2025 Group AND Putin

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