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ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 11:48 AM Jan 20

Meet Graham Platner. Here is one white guy who can help save the Democratic Party from itself, imho.

His Daily Beast interview with Joanna Cole was this radical (tongue in cheek) feminist’s introduction, and I’m sold.

If you know very little about Graham Platner, he’s running against the establishment Democratic candidate for U.S. Senator from Maine. If he wins the primary, he’ll take on the very concerned Susan Collins. He’s supported by Bernie, Liz Warren, Chris Murphy and other good guys. I’d love to see him working shoulder-to-shoulder with the aforementioned, plus Sheldon Whitehouse, Tammy Duckworth, Ruben Gallego, Mark Kelly, Jon Ossoff, Raphael Warnock, etc.

The way he handled every question was a wonder to behold. Plainspoken, credible, masculine-in-the-good-way, this ex-Marine (current oyster farmer) who fought in Iraq & Afghanistan deserves all the support we can provide. He would have the Democratic Party return to its FDR New Deal version, and get universal healthcare (i.e. Medicare For All) passed, once and for all.

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And yes, the interview addresses the “scandals” of his past—in a most satisfactory way, I might add. Oh, and ignore the click-bait, sensationalistic YouTube title.

https://www.grahamforsenate.com/
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Meet Graham Platner. Here is one white guy who can help save the Democratic Party from itself, imho. (Original Post) ariadne0614 Jan 20 OP
Question JustAnotherGen Jan 20 #1
I guess you didn't watch the interview. n/t ariadne0614 Jan 20 #3
use your gut berksdem Jan 20 #6
Watch the interview, or not. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #8
I already watched it thanks. berksdem Jan 20 #10
I do hold him accountable, and his responses to tough questions impressed me. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #17
I HAVE watched the entire interview JustAnotherGen Jan 21 #144
I have often said that only Black women can save us, and consider Jasmine Crockett a national treasure. ariadne0614 Jan 21 #150
His Reddit posts were discussed, but please explain how to look them up with one's guts. n/t ariadne0614 Jan 20 #21
don't get mad berksdem Jan 20 #24
Autumn is on my side, and you're mistaking enthusiasm for swooning. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #32
JFC berksdem Jan 20 #48
Calm down. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #60
I've never in my life heard any self-described "radical feminist" say that an average white guy had "potent magic" but WhiskeyGrinder Jan 20 #52
I am a wonderment, it is true. n/t ariadne0614 Jan 20 #108
This Magic Moment 🎶 sheshe2 Jan 21 #127
Post removed Post removed Jan 20 #65
I appreciate your terror. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #97
I don't trust anyone's judgement who advocates for public hangings or private hangings Buckeyeblue Jan 21 #123
That didn't work in 1877 to 1965 JustAnotherGen Jan 22 #162
I agree with your concerns but we should note he did get the Nazi tattoo covered up/removed LymphocyteLover Jan 22 #158
Not good enough for me JustAnotherGen Jan 22 #165
Understood... sorry LymphocyteLover Jan 22 #166
Nope fuck this guy. His judgment is shit. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 20 #2
You do you. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #7
I listened to him and I am fine with his explaations. I like him. Young and has gotten his Autumn Jan 20 #11
Thank you Autumn. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #14
As for the tattoo nonsense I have known many young people who have tattoos that Autumn Jan 20 #16
He's got some potent magic. n/t ariadne0614 Jan 20 #22
Getting a Nazi death head tattoo is bad, leaving it on for over decade is worse IMO EX500rider Jan 20 #55
And he explained the tattoo he and his fellow soldiers got. nt Autumn Jan 20 #58
Again getting a Nazi SS tattoo while drunk on leave is one thing, leaving it there for over a decade is another IMO YMMV EX500rider Jan 20 #62
Yah, if all the other soldiers are doing it, it must be okay! betsuni Jan 20 #67
You may not know this but men who serve together have a tight bond. nt Autumn Jan 20 #72
No ne in my family in the military ever got a Nazi tat obamanut2012 Jan 20 #80
When he found out it was a nazi tattoo he had it covered. So AFAIC that's the end of that. Autumn Jan 20 #85
So he had a Nazi tattoo for 18 years and didn't know what it was till the press pointed it out? Seems unlikely EX500rider Jan 22 #167
This is an awfully slippery slope nt mr715 Jan 20 #81
So, you know people who got Nazi tats and still have them over a decade later? obamanut2012 Jan 20 #79
You are doing exactly what the RW does obamanut2012 Jan 20 #78
I'm lost on this one. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #110
Bernie has been wrong before. I don't trust anyone with a Nazi tattoo and posts online that reinforce that. mucholderthandirt Jan 21 #124
I'm sorry if I left the impression that I expect anyone, including myself, to ignore his past. ariadne0614 Jan 21 #136
He discredited himself quite well Blue_Adept Jan 21 #133
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jan 20 #75
I like Democrats who don't have Nazi problems in their past, personally. tritsofme Jan 20 #4
If I thought for one minute he was a Nazi, I wouldn't have posted the interview. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #12
Plenty of posts about him here MichMan Jan 20 #25
Thanks. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #29
Did you read the other posts by now? MichMan Jan 21 #153
It wasn't just a "past" problem.... TommyT139 Jan 20 #43
The "establishment" lol awesomerwb1 Jan 20 #5
Actually, if I lived in Maine, I'd work my heart out for him. n/t ariadne0614 Jan 20 #26
Good for you. I'm sure questionable people like this crazy dude need the money awesomerwb1 Jan 20 #30
It's seriously difficult to imagine watching this interview and concluding he's crazy. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #31
It's not. Do you like his Nazi tattoo as well? awesomerwb1 Jan 20 #33
Is that a serious question? ariadne0614 Jan 20 #36
lol Of course he's gonna "own up" awesomerwb1 Jan 20 #38
Because Trump has made owning up all the fashion on the Nazi side of the equation. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #63
He did plenty of stupid stuff when he was over 30, too. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 20 #64
He isn't just turning 21! mr715 Jan 20 #82
It's cute how you think you're the first one to "introduce" awesomerwb1 Jan 20 #66
His opponent, Janet Mills: Jack Valentino Jan 20 #120
I'm sure they would make me cringe. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #70
"This doesn't sound like something your average Nazi would do." lol what WhiskeyGrinder Jan 20 #51
as if he and his mommy aren't the establishment thebigidea Jan 20 #89
Remember when Fetterman was the be all to save all..... Historic NY Jan 20 #9
My gut told me from the beginning that there was something off about Fetterman. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #13
So you didn't agree with the judgement of Sanders regarding Fetterman but say we should trust his judgement here? W_HAMILTON Jan 20 #44
I never once saw him that way. I saw him clearly for what he is. Autumn Jan 20 #23
I'm more impressed... 2naSalit Jan 20 #15
I'm sure Governor Mills is a fine person. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #19
Are you... 2naSalit Jan 20 #20
No, I'm just an American who would love to see Democrats take back the Senate. n/t ariadne0614 Jan 20 #27
Age-baiting is so last generation Torchlight Jan 21 #135
What does her age have to do with it? sheshe2 Jan 21 #154
I see your Excellent Post got Cha Jan 22 #173
You are right about the crickets, Cha. sheshe2 Jan 22 #174
I'm 77, and believe wise elders have much to contribute. ariadne0614 Jan 22 #176
Mills is the AIPAC candidate and so whoever the republican nominee will be aipac supported questionseverything Jan 20 #34
Maine Senate Race Moves To Toss Up With Mills' Entrance LetMyPeopleVote Jan 20 #84
He's drawing crowds of elderly people leftstreet Jan 20 #18
Interesting. I didn't use my gut to find information on endorsements. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #28
"...on both sides..." TommyT139 Jan 20 #46
Yes! ariadne0614 Jan 20 #49
I was referring TommyT139 Jan 20 #92
I think its more like, he is the key to ensuring Susan Collins gets another term FascismIsDeath Jan 20 #35
Perhaps not. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #59
Some people say he rzemanfl Jan 20 #37
I don't understand "one white guy who can save the Democratic Party from itself." betsuni Jan 20 #39
In 2007 a Marine Gunnery Sgt. estimated that 92% of about 8,000 Marines rzemanfl Jan 20 #40
You get that it was a very specific skull and crossbones that was a hallmark of the SS, right? Not the Jolly Roger? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 20 #45
I have not seen a picture. Have you? rzemanfl Jan 20 #54
I'm familiar with the totenkopf, and the video and screenshots that went around a lot last October make it clear that's WhiskeyGrinder Jan 20 #57
This tattoo? Quite plainly the SS-Totenkopf tattoo EX500rider Jan 20 #61
Agreed. n/t rzemanfl Jan 20 #68
I agree the tattoo is a Nazi Death Head (totenkopf). rzemanfl Jan 20 #73
Seriously? Cirsium Jan 20 #88
Thank you. rzemanfl Jan 20 #91
Hey, thanks for listening in good faith. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 20 #100
Maybe the tattooist rzemanfl Jan 20 #109
Lot's of Yugoslav's fought on the German side EX500rider Jan 22 #168
They said the same about John Fetterman. W_HAMILTON Jan 20 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jan 20 #42
I doubt his crowds are "Genocide Joe" people leftstreet Jan 20 #47
Another start at the top political con. delisen Jan 20 #50
If I recall the same views were expressed how Fetterman was the "great liberal hope" over the "establishment" lostincalifornia Jan 20 #53
I don't live in Maine mountain grammy Jan 20 #56
I do live in Maine chelsea0011 Jan 20 #93
Thank you for your response. I have a couple of questions. mountain grammy Jan 20 #95
It's not my district chelsea0011 Jan 22 #155
Thank you. mountain grammy Jan 22 #172
All that matters to me right now is winning elections BannonsLiver Jan 20 #69
Judging from only this one interview, I think he would agree with you. n/t ariadne0614 Jan 20 #71
This is why we have primaries. nt mr715 Jan 20 #74
He is problematic. mr715 Jan 20 #76
lol no, I want someone without Nazi tats, who doesn't hit women and who didn't work as a mercenary obamanut2012 Jan 20 #77
MaddowBlog-Maine's Graham Platner faces difficult questions about his record -- and a tattoo LetMyPeopleVote Jan 20 #83
This post, on its own, would give pause to any reasonable voter. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #113
I watched the entire video, I like him. Americanme Jan 20 #86
I don't believe in saviors, I believe in passing legislation that helps my family thebigidea Jan 20 #87
I don't believe in saviors either. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #105
Curious MorbidButterflyTat Jan 20 #90
If Democrats win back the Senate, the pressure will come from fed up We the People. n/t ariadne0614 Jan 20 #94
Do you truly believe that tsf would actually sign it or... sheshe2 Jan 20 #104
Yup, we need both the House and Senate. n/t ariadne0614 Jan 20 #114
That's not enough if the president won't sign it. sheshe2 Jan 20 #118
Call me delusional, but if our side regains the Senate and House, then anything is possible if ariadne0614 Jan 20 #103
Sorry. This is the kind of unicorn thinking that turned me off of the Sanders movement. Blasphemer Jan 20 #121
History mr715 Jan 21 #140
Could be the right messenger at the right time + the cumulative decades of effort. ariadne0614 Jan 21 #145
Could be, but you don't need to be a Senator to lead. mr715 Jan 21 #146
I guess we'll find out soon enough. ariadne0614 Jan 21 #148
The DSCC and Janet Mills have formed a joint fundraising committee together. LetMyPeopleVote Jan 20 #96
Sincere question. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #99
I am Jewish and have an issue with someone with a NAZI tattoo LetMyPeopleVote Jan 20 #107
I have deep respect your preference. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #112
These tattoos are a big issue LetMyPeopleVote Jan 22 #163
I don't understand the "one white guy" headline. Was that in an article or something? marmar Jan 20 #98
Fair question. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #101
Look up stories from last year about his choice of tattoos. Iggo Jan 21 #129
I'll be voting for Janet Mill's in the primary. If your candidate wins, I will vote for him. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 20 #102
Makes perfect sense to me. n/t ariadne0614 Jan 20 #106
Ranked Choice voting,,,,democracy in action. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 20 #111
I'm all in favor of ranked choice voting. ariadne0614 Jan 20 #115
Gov. MAGA Paul got elected in Maine when 60+% voted for two other candidates..... OAITW r.2.0 Jan 20 #116
Oh boy! Let the rebranding begin! Iggo Jan 20 #117
Still? Really? Has Trump taught us nothing. Gimme a break. nt Blasphemer Jan 20 #119
Running against the Democratic Party: Establishment beholden to corporate interests ignore working class, both sides. betsuni Jan 21 #122
Dude had a nazi tattoo on his chest for years. Got called out last year and covered it up. Iggo Jan 21 #128
Only got called out because there was a video of him running around shirtless during a wedding reception that surfaced MichMan Jan 21 #130
Indeed! I'm so fucking done with that BS-- even if it sadly gets votes. LymphocyteLover Jan 22 #159
Looking at his background, I would venture he's a Repub plant Just_Vote_Dem Jan 21 #125
I expect more will be revealed during the primary process. ariadne0614 Jan 22 #157
I'm guessing there's more than one... whathehell Jan 21 #126
You're absolutely right. ariadne0614 Jan 21 #131
I take issue with a repeated point you are making. mr715 Jan 21 #139
Thanks for the opportunity to clarify. ariadne0614 Jan 21 #147
Thank you for taking the time to reply. mr715 Jan 21 #149
You're welcome, and I share your willingness to be wrong. n/t ariadne0614 Jan 21 #152
Is this a trial balloon or is this the actual roll-out? Iggo Jan 21 #141
It would surprise me if you thought he was intellectually deficient if you listened to the interview. ariadne0614 Jan 21 #142
Belief that working class are white men (who Democrats are accused of ignoring in favor of "identity politics"): betsuni Jan 21 #143
nazi tattoo + Blackwater employment nope waddirum Jan 21 #132
I appreciate your input. ariadne0614 Jan 21 #134
it's on his wiki page EX500rider Jan 21 #137
Thank you very much. ariadne0614 Jan 21 #138
The guy with the Nazi tattoo and racial slurs? RandySF Jan 21 #151
If you are correct, rhen another Fetterman would be very bad. ariadne0614 Jan 22 #156
We will soon get to see how a 77-year-old middle of the road woman stands up to ICE. rzemanfl Jan 22 #160
I love the variety of insights and perspectives on DU. ariadne0614 Jan 22 #161
He looked at that tattoo in the mirror for 18 years and did nothing about it until he was called out last year. Iggo Jan 22 #169
I wasn't talking about him. I was talking about other inebriated GIs. rzemanfl Jan 22 #170
Maine Senate candidate downplayed sexual assault concerns in deleted posts LetMyPeopleVote Jan 22 #164
If you like white guys from Maine who run in Democratic Primaries Quiet Em Jan 22 #171
My preference is dynamic women like Jasmine Crockett and AOC, ariadne0614 Jan 22 #175
Statement of Governor Mills on Federal agents killing another person in Minnesota LetMyPeopleVote Jan 25 #177
The Democratic Party Boo1 Jan 25 #178

JustAnotherGen

(37,771 posts)
1. Question
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 11:52 AM
Jan 20

Are you okay with Pete Kegsbreath's Nazi / White Supremacist Tattoos?

Platner has some too.

I want to make sure people are being consistent here.

I'm terrified of the Democratic Party Returning to the Raw Deal for Black Americans who had been here since 1619.

It's also a return to the status quo. That's not acceptable. We need public hangings, life imprisonment, life long loss of voting etc. etc.

I'd fear this guy turns out to be another Fetterman - always taking sides with the right.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
17. I do hold him accountable, and his responses to tough questions impressed me.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:32 PM
Jan 20

It’s interesting that you watched the entire interview. I’d love to know which of his responses were unsatisfactory, and whether his demeanor offended you in any way.

JustAnotherGen

(37,771 posts)
144. I HAVE watched the entire interview
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 03:13 PM
Jan 21

This past year we've gotten a lot of lip service from well-meaning white liberals and leftists that their peers should 'listen to Black women'.

But time and again they don't.

And so when we warned about Fetterman - we were poo pooed.
And now - we are warning about Platner and again - we are being poo pooed and shushed.

When he gets elected and shows his true colors - not a rehearsed answer . . .

You heard it from this Black woman first: Told all y'all.

As long as he doesn't suck money away from Candidates who won't be afraid to vote for things like the VRA or CRA . . . god bless him. But that means we need two staunch Black Senators to offset him.

So we all need to get behind Jasmine Crockett who does NOT have white supremacist tattoos on her body.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
150. I have often said that only Black women can save us, and consider Jasmine Crockett a national treasure.
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 10:17 PM
Jan 21

Still, after the backlash against Barack, Hillary and Kamala, I fear we’ll be stuck in a white male power structure for the duration. He came across as very progressive in the interview, so I’m still reserving judgement till I know more.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
32. Autumn is on my side, and you're mistaking enthusiasm for swooning.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 01:20 PM
Jan 20

BTW, radical feminists don’t swoon, especially over close-minded white men. Are you attempting to bully an elderly woman (and fellow DUer) into sitting down and shutting up? I intend to defend my OP until the bitter end.

berksdem

(907 posts)
48. JFC
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:45 PM
Jan 20

you must be a real treat at parties. nobody is bullying you and how the heck would I know if you are a female or male let alone a radical feminist.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,658 posts)
52. I've never in my life heard any self-described "radical feminist" say that an average white guy had "potent magic" but
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:50 PM
Jan 20

every day can bring wonders I guess

Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #1)

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
97. I appreciate your terror.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 08:22 PM
Jan 20

We can agree on your New Deal point. I’m thinking more along the lines of striving toward a more perfect union, and he gave me the strong impression that he feels the same way. Repeating the failings of the New Deal era would be unacceptable, but a solid foundation was laid.

You lost me with the notion of public hangings, etc. That would be a return to the status quo of previous times of horror. Life imprisonment without parole for the worst of the worst works for me, with the caveat that the convicts would be made available as objects of study by historians, sociologists, neuroscientists, psychologists, etc. Their personal privacy would be forfeited in favor of regular reports to the public. Findings would be used to pass laws, and used in (age appropriate, of course) mandatory civics classes in every K-12 public school curriculum.

Buckeyeblue

(6,280 posts)
123. I don't trust anyone's judgement who advocates for public hangings or private hangings
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 08:01 AM
Jan 21

We have a long list of people who have been exonerated after being convicted of crimes. Our justice system is economically based. The justice you get is proportional to the justice you pay for. And we all know that cops lie, DAs hide evidence and over charge to get easy plea bargains, judges are biased. We say people are innocent until proven guilty but the second people are arrested they are dehumanized and stripped of their dignity.

So I'm a hard no on the death penalty.

JustAnotherGen

(37,771 posts)
162. That didn't work in 1877 to 1965
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 10:32 AM
Jan 22

IE - The justice system.

There is a sharp divide between Black women and the rest of America on what needs to be done to decimate and dominate the Confederacy's Successors (magapubs) once and for all.

From where I sit in America? The ballots didn't work. . .

LymphocyteLover

(9,549 posts)
158. I agree with your concerns but we should note he did get the Nazi tattoo covered up/removed
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 07:27 AM
Jan 22

once he "realized" the problem.

JustAnotherGen

(37,771 posts)
165. Not good enough for me
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 12:23 PM
Jan 22

It shows a lack of judgment that he did not do it until it was pointed out. The fact that he has had mental issues does not give me warm fuzzies either.

Regardless - I believe Maine will re-elect 'Deeply Concerned' whether they actually vote for her not. Hopefully they'll all come together for the greater good.

I also have to note - I had Andy Kim shoved down my throat. He voted for Kristi Noem. I hold him responsible for ICE's actions.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
7. You do you.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:12 PM
Jan 20

Based on the comments so far, I’m guessing the right wing/oligarch message machine is working overtime to discredit this guy. Since I don’t know you or the other naysayers, I’m going with the judgement of Bernie and Liz Warren, and the vibe I get from him in this interview.

I do hope others will watch the interview and judge for themselves.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
14. Thank you Autumn.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:26 PM
Jan 20

That’s my assessment as well, after paying close attention to politics and politicians since the Watergate era.

Autumn

(48,867 posts)
16. As for the tattoo nonsense I have known many young people who have tattoos that
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:32 PM
Jan 20

they have gotten with comrades that were supposed to mean one thing but turned out to mean something else. I like the guy.

EX500rider

(12,253 posts)
62. Again getting a Nazi SS tattoo while drunk on leave is one thing, leaving it there for over a decade is another IMO YMMV
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 03:08 PM
Jan 20

obamanut2012

(29,246 posts)
80. No ne in my family in the military ever got a Nazi tat
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:04 PM
Jan 20

And, they have served this country since the French and Indian Wars. Including my BIL, who fought in Iraq, and he and his military buddies never felt the need to bond by lauding Nazis on their skin.

Autumn

(48,867 posts)
85. When he found out it was a nazi tattoo he had it covered. So AFAIC that's the end of that.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:19 PM
Jan 20
https://apnews.com/article/maine-platner-senate-trump-mills-tattoo-collins-fa8328a3c8aa5d5e0f34adb379e977b8

The first-time political candidate said he got the skull and crossbones tattoo in 2007, when he was in his 20s and in the Marine Corps. It happened during a night of drinking while he was on leave in Croatia, he said, adding he was unaware until recently that the image has been associated with Nazi police.

Platner’s campaign initially said he would remove the tattoo, yet Platner said he later chose to cover it up with another tattoo due to the limited options where he lives in rural Maine.“Going to a tattoo removal place is going to take a while,” he said. “I wanted this thing off my body.”

The initial tattoo image resembled a specific symbol of Hitler’s paramilitary Schutzstaffel, or SS, which was responsible for the systematic murders of millions of Jews and others in Europe during World War II.

A Celtic knot and a dog-like creature
The new tattoo, completed late Tuesday, now is a Celtic knot with a dog-like creature splayed in the middle of it. The animal has four gangly legs and an elongated head with a curly tongue spiraling out. The image is mostly filled in with black ink, but the Celtic knot is green.


EX500rider

(12,253 posts)
167. So he had a Nazi tattoo for 18 years and didn't know what it was till the press pointed it out? Seems unlikely
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 12:49 PM
Jan 22

IMO that makes him either a liar or stupid, neither a good look IMO

obamanut2012

(29,246 posts)
78. You are doing exactly what the RW does
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:02 PM
Jan 20

If someone disagrees with you, you are saying they are brainwashed.

For alerters: I am not saying OP is RW, I am saying they are using some of the same strategies when folks disagree with them.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
110. I'm lost on this one.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 09:17 PM
Jan 20

It would help to know which RW strategies you believe I employed with people who disagreed with me. I enjoy living and learning, and engaging civil discourse. I think it’s considered part of democratic process.

mucholderthandirt

(1,773 posts)
124. Bernie has been wrong before. I don't trust anyone with a Nazi tattoo and posts online that reinforce that.
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 08:04 AM
Jan 21

I'm a white, elderly woman who has been a feminist since I was twelve. I've probably been a radical feminist as long as that, and I don't support people like Platner.

You can do what you like. You can support whom you like. But you seem to want us to ignore his past, as we would not do for someone in the opposition. That's not how this works. And no, I'm not watching some clickbait title site to see how the guy defended himself from charges that basically have no defense.




ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
136. I'm sorry if I left the impression that I expect anyone, including myself, to ignore his past.
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 12:33 PM
Jan 21

That is not the case, I promise. You will do what you like, and I will continue to delve deeper. Since you haven’t watched the interview, there’s not much to discuss. I’ll just say it’s discomforting to think about withholding redemption from a sincere repentant. We seem to land on different ends of the radical feminist spectrum.

Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #2)

tritsofme

(19,843 posts)
4. I like Democrats who don't have Nazi problems in their past, personally.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:04 PM
Jan 20

Happy to leave that as the exclusive domain of the Trumpers.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
12. If I thought for one minute he was a Nazi, I wouldn't have posted the interview.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:21 PM
Jan 20

However, I have an open mind, and always seek the unvarnished truth. Please cite your sources, which I will consider. In return, it would add to your credibility if you have given him the chance to explain himself.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
29. Thanks.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 01:05 PM
Jan 20

They didn’t show up when I did an advanced search of his name before posting my OP. I’ll check them out after I make lunch and prep vegetables for dinner.

TommyT139

(2,238 posts)
43. It wasn't just a "past" problem....
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:22 PM
Jan 20

...since he went all those years not thinking about what his body communicated to anyone who saw him at the beach (for instance). That completely undercuts his attempts to distance himself from his decisions.

If he's a decent guy, he'll continue to do public good, watch what he posts/emails, and maybe in the future, fine.

A guy who gets Nazi tattoos removed only after getting questioned about them isn't ready to defend a state against fascists.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
31. It's seriously difficult to imagine watching this interview and concluding he's crazy.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 01:11 PM
Jan 20

We must be viewing him through radically different lenses.

awesomerwb1

(5,037 posts)
33. It's not. Do you like his Nazi tattoo as well?
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 01:21 PM
Jan 20

It's difficult to read his disgraceful posts from not that long ago and conclude he's a good Dem candidate.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
36. Is that a serious question?
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 01:37 PM
Jan 20

Are you proud of everything you’ve ever said and done? Have you owned up to your worst mistakes and errors in judgement? It seems to me that he’s done so, in public.

I know, I know. Democratic candidates must be practically perfect, in every way.

What I do know is that the right wing will do whatever it takes to take him down, with the help of quite a few Democrats, it seems.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
63. Because Trump has made owning up all the fashion on the Nazi side of the equation.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 03:14 PM
Jan 20

Yes, he’s a candidate, and he also happens to be a 41-year old human being who did stupid stuff when he was under 30. Funny how that works.

Did you happen to see the reply about his tattoo?

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,658 posts)
64. He did plenty of stupid stuff when he was over 30, too.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 03:17 PM
Jan 20

Walking around with a totenkopf tattoo for YEARS instead of getting rid of it ranks right on up there.

awesomerwb1

(5,037 posts)
66. It's cute how you think you're the first one to "introduce"
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 03:18 PM
Jan 20

this dude to DU.

He's a bad candidate with a lot of baggage. Bye.

Jack Valentino

(4,626 posts)
120. His opponent, Janet Mills:
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 11:56 PM
Jan 20

Based on her actions as Governor of Maine leading into her 2025-2026 U.S. Senate campaign, Janet Mills has developed a record that has drawn criticism from the progressive wing of the Democratic party. While she is viewed as a moderate and a key opponent of1 Donald Trump, her, use of the veto pen on labor, housing, and tribal issues, along with a fiscally conservative approach, has created friction with the left.
Here are the specific, more conservative actions taken by Governor Mills that have made her less acceptable to the progressive left:

1. Vetoing Key Labor and Worker Rights Bills
Opposed Expanded Collective Bargaining: Mills vetoed legislation in 2024 that would have strengthened collective bargaining rights by banning anti-union intimidation tactics.
Axed Noncompete Agreement Ban: She killed a bill that would have banned restrictive noncompete agreements, which labor advocates argued restricted worker mobility.
Weakened Farmworker Protections: While she eventually signed a version of a bill setting a $14.65 minimum wage for farmworkers, she removed critical enforcement provisions, limiting its impact.
Vetoed "Buy Local" Requirements: She vetoed legislation that would have required state government contracts to prioritize local Maine businesses over multinational corporations.
Opposed Overtime Protections: She vetoed a bill that would have required the state to study the issue of paper mill workers being forced to work excessive overtime.

2. Fiscal and Economic Conservatism
Conservative Budgeting/Surplus Retention: Critics from the left argue that Mills’ administration has been too conservative in forecasting, resulting in unnecessary, large budget surpluses rather than investing in social programs or infrastructure.
Opposed Raising Taxes on the Wealthy: She opposed 2024 tax reform proposals intended to raise taxes on wealthy residents to balance the budget, drawing criticism for prioritizing corporate interests.
Opposed Rent Control/Tenant Protection: In 2019, she blocked tenant protection reforms that would have mandated more notice before rent hikes and evictions, citing burdens on business.

3. Stances on Social and Justice Issues
Vetoed Youth Prison Closure: A significant point of criticism from progressives was her veto of a proposal to close the Long Creek Youth Development Center, a facility critics have described as unsafe and punitive.
"Yellow Flag" Gun Law Defense: Following the 2023 Lewiston mass shooting, she resisted calls for a "Red Flag" law (which allows for the temporary removal of firearms from dangerous individuals), choosing instead to stand by Maine’s existing "Yellow Flag" law, which is seen as a compromise by gun control advocates.
Supported Filibuster: Mills has stated her support for retaining the U.S. Senate filibuster, which many progressive Democrats want to eliminate to pass legislation with a simple majority.
Opposition to Drug Decriminalization: She has expressed opposition to the decriminalization of drug possession, putting her at odds with reformers on the far left.

4. Tribal Relations and Environmental Issues
Vetoed Tribal Sovereignty Bills: Mills has faced intense backlash for vetoing legislation aimed at enhancing tribal sovereignty, including a bill that would have ensured Wabanaki Nations received the same federal rights as other Native American tribes.
Legal Challenges Against Tribes: As governor, her administration has been accused of "environmental racism" by tribal leaders for legal challenges involving water quality standards and fishing rights on the Penobscot River.

5. Environmental Policy
Stance on Clean Energy Jobs: She killed a permitting reform bill designed to accelerate offshore wind projects because it included a mandate for union jobs, a move that drew ire from labor-aligned environmentalists.

6. Opposing Federal Action
Criticized ACA Subsidy Deal: In late 2025, she drew criticism for calling a bipartisan deal to reopen the federal government a "lousy deal," arguing it didn't do enough to immediately address Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) subsidies, a move seen by some as obstructionist rather than constructive.
These actions have caused her support among Democrats to drop in some polls, leading to a competitive primary challenge from progressive candidates in her bid for the Senate, particularly with support from figures like Bernie Sanders for her opponents.


Most of those things 'give me "pause' over Janet Mills--- more than what some say was a 'nazi tattoo' that Platner has since covered up.....
which most likely was not labeled as a 'nazi tattoo' at the tattoo shop where he got it....


It's up to the Democratic primary voters in Maine, I will support whomever they nominate as an out-stater---
but some of the things Mills has actually DONE against progressive policy
concern me a little more than anything Platner had tattooed on his body which he has since covered up...


ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
70. I'm sure they would make me cringe.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 03:36 PM
Jan 20

Nevertheless, don’t be surprised if it turns out you’ve drawn the wrong conclusions. For my part, I will maintain an open mind and continue to assess the situation. Until then, I like him.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
19. I'm sure Governor Mills is a fine person.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:44 PM
Jan 20

However, being a septuagenarian myself, it seems folly to choose someone who would be well into her 80s by the end of her first term. We need to make way for dynamic leadership from the generations who will be left with they’re inheriting from us.

sheshe2

(96,608 posts)
154. What does her age have to do with it?
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 11:29 PM
Jan 21

Sanders who you have mentioned as having endorsed Platner is 84 years old and will be 90 when his term ends. You also mentioned Warren's endorsement who is 75 and will be 81 when her term ends. You can't have it both ways.

PS. Warren is my Senator, and I like her a lot though I don't necessarily agree with her on this decision.



Cha

(317,702 posts)
173. I see your Excellent Post got
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 06:18 PM
Jan 22

Crickets she.

Oh and Maine Sen. Angus King is 81.. soon to be 82. He was born on Mar 31, 1944.. this term is up Jan 3 2031.

Bringing up the "Age Thing" against Gov Janet Mills seems a bit hypocritical ...

Thank you!

sheshe2

(96,608 posts)
174. You are right about the crickets, Cha.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 07:22 PM
Jan 22

And thanks for adding Angus King to the list!

Ya can't have it both ways.

You are welcome.

.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
176. I'm 77, and believe wise elders have much to contribute.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 08:31 PM
Jan 22

I also believe it’s important for us to make way for a new generation of leaders. There’s a fine balance, and discernment is required.

BTW, I didn’t mean to ignore your reply. Today was consumed by the Jack Smith hearing and a major cleaning project.

questionseverything

(11,676 posts)
34. Mills is the AIPAC candidate and so whoever the republican nominee will be aipac supported
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 01:22 PM
Jan 20

Last edited Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:00 PM - Edit history (1)

Adding to my original post, I don’t think AIPAC approved candidates are a good thing, I think the opposite as I don’t support the genocide Israel has unleashed on Gaza or the West Bank

LetMyPeopleVote

(176,711 posts)
84. Maine Senate Race Moves To Toss Up With Mills' Entrance
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:17 PM
Jan 20

Mills is clearly more electable than any other candidate

Maine Gov. Janet Mills’ entrance into the Senate race on Tuesday marks a significant escalation in political firepower aimed at longtime GOP Sen. Susan Collins. We are moving the contest from Lean R -> Toss Up.

The Cook Political Report (@cookpolitical.com) 2025-10-14T13:38:17.516Z

https://www.cookpolitical.com/analysis/senate/maine-senate/maine-senate-race-moves-toss-mills-entrance

Maine Gov. Janet Mills’ entrance into the Senate race on Tuesday marks a significant escalation in political firepower aimed at longtime GOP Sen. Susan Collins, the only Republican senator representing a state carried by then-Vice President Kamala Harris in 2024. For the first time since she was elected in 1996, Collins could face off against a sitting statewide officeholder who, like her, has a proven track record of outperforming the presidential ticket of her party.

Mills, of course, does not have a clear path to the nomination, and there is no guarantee that she will win it. But she is a top-tier recruit in a field that currently lacks a well-known or well-established candidate. And while Collins has defied electoral expectations for decades, the political environment today is more polarized than ever, which makes Collins’ ability to effectively straddle partisan lines more challenging.

As such, we are moving the contest from Lean Republican to Toss Up.

There are several other Democrats in the race, but oyster farmer and first-time political candidate Graham Platner appears to be Mills’ most serious

leftstreet

(39,509 posts)
18. He's drawing crowds of elderly people
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 12:38 PM
Jan 20

Which isn't surprising given that Maine has the "oldest" average population of all the states

If he's the nominee, it'll be interesting to see how it translates to election numbers vs Collins (or the GOPer who runs instead)

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
59. Perhaps not.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 03:02 PM
Jan 20

The zeitgeist suggests to me, that the Democrats are Jonesing for fighters. He’s a fighter.

To be fair, my desire to see a female president before I die has taken a back seat to my bitter recognition that our culture is still too consumed by misogyny and sexism to change in time—on both sides. Therefore, my heart and head are open to a white man who has the moral and intellectual integrity to learn and grow into a more evolved definition of “manhood.” If that makes me timid, I’ll cop to it.

Based on the interview, his comments on Susan Collins convinced me that her time is over. He’s talked to a lot of rural Maine voters.

rzemanfl

(31,257 posts)
37. Some people say he
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 01:43 PM
Jan 20

went into the oyster business because he thought it might help his wife conceive.

Don’t most Marines have tattoos? When I have a better device I will post
a link to an article about tattoos and the Marine culture,


rzemanfl

(31,257 posts)
40. In 2007 a Marine Gunnery Sgt. estimated that 92% of about 8,000 Marines
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:02 PM
Jan 20

he briefed on the subject of tattoos had at least one.

https://www.miramar-ems.marines.mil/News/News-Article-Display/Article/556982/to-ink-or-not-to-inknew-regulations-answer-the-question/

Maybe a skull and crossbones tattoo would look better with an eye patch or a pegleg, but I don't think it should be disqualifying

rzemanfl

(31,257 posts)
54. I have not seen a picture. Have you?
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:55 PM
Jan 20

The SS skull is very distinctive. The pirate and poison skull and crossbones are virtually identical, although the position of the bones, either behind or below the skull varies in both. The SS skull has much shorter bones that are behind the skull and appear to be stacked on top of each other.

On edit, there is a picture of the tattoo up thread I hadn't seen when I wrote the above. It sure looks like a Nazi death head to me, although the skull seems tilted.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,658 posts)
57. I'm familiar with the totenkopf, and the video and screenshots that went around a lot last October make it clear that's
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 03:00 PM
Jan 20

what it was.

https://themainemonitor.org/platner-tattoo-nazi-totenkopf/

He called it "my totenkopf" as well, according to a former campaign official.

rzemanfl

(31,257 posts)
73. I agree the tattoo is a Nazi Death Head (totenkopf).
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 03:41 PM
Jan 20

I find it odd that a Croatian tattoo artist would be doing these tattoos. Croatia was a Nazi puppet state during World War II.
Of course, I also find it odd that Americans whose fathers fought the Nazis support Trump's fascism. Go figure.

Cirsium

(3,668 posts)
88. Seriously?
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:47 PM
Jan 20

That doesn't surprise me at all. Neo-Nazi movements and historical revisionism are rampant in the former Warsaw Pact countries. Croatia, Slovakia, Lithuania and Ukraine were full of unapologetic Nazi collaborators and war criminals, many never held to account, supported by the US as "anti-Communists" and their crimes were largely white washed.

Pro-Nazi singer sells out Zagreb arena as Croatia’s collaborationist past sheds its taboo

Croatian Jews say little effort is made to tamp down valorization of the brutal Ustaše collaborationist regime.

Next month marks the 80th anniversary of the end of World War II as well as the collapse of the Ustaše regime, the Nazi puppet government formally known as the Independent State of Croatia. Its territory — which encompassed much of today’s Croatia as well as neighboring Bosnia and parts of modern-day Serbia — housed around 30 concentration camps including Jasenovac and two camps specifically for children, Jastrebarsko and Sisak.

During its reign of terror, the Ustaše regime persecuted and murdered hundreds of thousands of Serbs, Jews and Roma, as well as Croatians opposed to their rule. The Catholic Church openly collaborated with the Ustaše, whose support came largely from young men with rural, blue-collar, uneducated backgrounds.

In 2016, Croatia’s then-president posed with a Ustaše flag during a trip to Canada, despite having previously expressed regret about the regime during a state trip to Israel. Today, nationalist sympathizers continue to use the prohibited, yet increasingly tolerated, slogan “Za Dom Spremni” (Defend the Homeland) — the Ustaše equivalent of the Nazi “Sieg Heil.”

In a sign of how widespread Nazi sentiments may be, Marko Perkovic, a Croatian singer who goes by Thompson, known for his Nazi sympathies, has sold more than 500,000 tickets for an outdoor concert in July. Tena Banjeglav, program coordinator at Documenta: Center for Dealing With the Past, a Zagreb-based nonprofit group, notes that Nazi signs have potent symbolism for some Croatians.

https://forward.com/news/716692/pro-nazi-singer-sells-out-zagreb-arena-as-croatias-collaborationist-past-sheds-its-taboo/

rzemanfl

(31,257 posts)
91. Thank you.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 05:08 PM
Jan 20

I was not aware of any of this. Now I am wondering if the tattooist enjoyed inking Nazi symbols into the skins of American troops.

EX500rider

(12,253 posts)
168. Lot's of Yugoslav's fought on the German side
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 12:54 PM
Jan 22
Yugoslav units fighting for Germany in WWII primarily comprised Croatian formations like the 369th (Croatian) Infantry Regiment (part of the Wehrmacht) and the 13th Waffen Mountain Division "Handschar" (SS), alongside Serbian collaborationist units like the Serbian Volunteer Corps (SDK), with various local militias (≪Ustaše, Chetniks in some instances, and ethnic German auxiliaries) also supporting Axis forces against the Partisans

Response to ariadne0614 (Original post)

leftstreet

(39,509 posts)
47. I doubt his crowds are "Genocide Joe" people
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:27 PM
Jan 20

Looking at feedback, they're older, somewhat conservative, and unhappy with Collins

Unless you're just referring to the online noise

delisen

(7,287 posts)
50. Another start at the top political con.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:47 PM
Jan 20

One conman is destroying us because too many Americans yearn for a political savior. The masked man who rides in a white horse and whips everything into shape.

lostincalifornia

(5,095 posts)
53. If I recall the same views were expressed how Fetterman was the "great liberal hope" over the "establishment"
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:52 PM
Jan 20

Conner Lamb.

That worked out real well.

It took only how many years before he though a nazi tattoo wasn't a good look?

Judgement is everything.





mountain grammy

(28,807 posts)
56. I don't live in Maine
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 02:59 PM
Jan 20

I won't trash either Democrat running in the primary.. it's up to Maine voters.

I will be donating to whoever is the Democratic primary choice for Senator.

I'm satisfied that Platner has addressed his problems.. I honestly don't think it's so serious..Right now I just want them to run on policies and the future they want for Maine and America..

We need Collins out!!! That's all we should be focused on. She is our enemy, not Democrat Platner or Democrat Mills..

chelsea0011

(10,213 posts)
93. I do live in Maine
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 05:14 PM
Jan 20

You are right to say beating Collins is first on the list Platner was said to be thinking about running for 2nd Congressional District in ME. He should. Le Page is back from his home in FL to run for office again. That lunatic needs to be stopped also. And I believe him about not knowing the tat origin story. I read and watch a lot of WWll history and am unaware of that insignia. He can’t beat Mills so his run will be all for not and we will lose a congressional seat.

mountain grammy

(28,807 posts)
95. Thank you for your response. I have a couple of questions.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 06:25 PM
Jan 20

Is there any democrat running in your second district? If not is the end of the primary too late to run for the office? I don’t know Maine’s rules on how this works, and when someone can file to run for office.
Yes, it would be a shame to give up a house seat that is winnable. The most important thing to be focused on is beating Republicans that is it. So yes, if no Democrat is running in the second district he should run there or maybe Mills should.

Thanks again for your response. I love Maine. Haven’t been there for 50 years but many fond memories Beautiful state. Hopefully will get back one of these days.

chelsea0011

(10,213 posts)
155. It's not my district
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 06:40 AM
Jan 22

but, Jared Golden who decided not to run, had his two elections decided by thinnest of margins. There are Democrats running but Northern Maine is very Republican and strong Le Page voters up there. Platner, a vet and solid ME persona being fisherman and resident can get by with the long standing canard up here of being “ from away” as Susan Collins used on her last challenger. Oh, I’m from away even owning a house for 25 years.

mountain grammy

(28,807 posts)
172. Thank you.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 05:38 PM
Jan 22

I never understood the attraction of LePage. Sure would love to see Collins lose

Good luck Mainers! Hope someone great stands up for that house seat.

BannonsLiver

(20,316 posts)
69. All that matters to me right now is winning elections
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 03:27 PM
Jan 20

I don’t care about his tattoos or his purity score on bullshit culture war identity politics issues rammed down our collective throats by special interest groups who care about their own personal wants more than actually winning elections. If he can win, then great. If he can’t then he needs to get out of the way.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
71. Judging from only this one interview, I think he would agree with you. n/t
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 03:40 PM
Jan 20

I didn’t get the impression that he was ever interested in running for office.

mr715

(3,230 posts)
76. He is problematic.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:00 PM
Jan 20

I question his judgement and I think the 'old' v 'young' framing is a bit fallacious - the dude is an adult, and there are standards.

It is good to have electricity, but he needs to earn my support. He can do that by establishing a little more Democratic credibility - run for House and win. Run for Mayor of Portland for that matter. Be a Democrat and market yourself as such: if you want to be a part of this party, you gotta share your "potent magic". Senate is a pretty entitled take.

Yeah, I get it. We get people that can make a strong populist message and cloak themselves in "anti-establishment" mojo, but when you aren't elected and already eliciting scandal, give me the bland Democrat that won statewide.

Covering up the tattoo was the first step on the road to Damascus.



obamanut2012

(29,246 posts)
77. lol no, I want someone without Nazi tats, who doesn't hit women and who didn't work as a mercenary
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:00 PM
Jan 20

He also is a bit of a fake populist.

Janet Mills is perfectly fine for now.

LetMyPeopleVote

(176,711 posts)
83. MaddowBlog-Maine's Graham Platner faces difficult questions about his record -- and a tattoo
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:14 PM
Jan 20

Once a Senate candidate reaches the point at which he has to deny being a secret Nazi, his campaign isn’t quite where it should be.

“Maine’s Graham Platner faces difficult questions about his record — and a tattoo: Once a Senate candidate reaches the point at which he has to deny being a secret Nazi, his campaign isn’t quite where it should be.“ www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

(@halfmarshall.bsky.social) 2025-10-23T01:57:13.441Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/maines-graham-platner-faces-difficult-questions-record-tattoo-rcna239152

Things changed, however, when Platner’s honeymoon period came to a rather sudden end.

The first sign of trouble came to the fore last week, when Politico reported that Platner “once suggested in online posts that violence is a necessary means to achieving social change.” Around the same time, CNN reported on since-deleted comments Platner had made online in which he “once called himself a ‘communist,’ dismissed ‘all’ police as bastards, and said rural White Americans ’actually are’ racist and stupid.”

The candidate disavowed his earlier rhetoric, but other revelations soon followed. Indeed, also last week, The Bangor Daily News reported that Platner also posted messages online in which he asked why Black people “don’t tip” and suggested people concerned about being raped shouldn’t be inebriated around people they don’t feel comfortable with.

After that report reached the public, Platner’s political director resigned.

That was late last week. This week, we learned about the Senate hopeful’s choice in tattoos. Politico reported:

Democratic Maine Senate hopeful Graham Platner expressed regret over getting a tattoo that appears similar to a Nazi symbol nearly two decades ago and plans to have it removed, his latest mea culpa after a week of damning headlines over resurfaced social media posts. ... Platner reiterated that he got the tattoo while out drinking with fellow Marines in Croatia, choosing the skull and crossbones off a wall at the tattoo parlor. He said the similarity to Nazi iconography never came up, including when he underwent physical exams mandated by the U.S. Army, which prohibits tattoos of identified hate symbols.


In other words, Platner’s defense is that he didn’t know he had a tattoo on his chest that resembles a Nazi symbol. What’s more, on Wednesday morning, he and his team said the image has now been covered......

Whether or not that’s true, once a Senate candidate reaches the point at which he has to deny being a secret Nazi, his campaign isn’t quite where it should be.

Democratic officials had already started rallying behind Mills, who has said she’ll only serve one term if elected. In light of the revelations about Platner’s record, it’s likely that party support will intensify. Watch this space.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
113. This post, on its own, would give pause to any reasonable voter.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 09:43 PM
Jan 20

I appreciate the bounty of information being provided in many replies to my OP. Nevertheless, as challenging as his candidacy may be, I like this guy. Call it radical feminist intuition. Complexity doesn’t scare me.

Americanme

(434 posts)
86. I watched the entire video, I like him.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:39 PM
Jan 20

He's not perfect, but I like him. I like his position on health care, labor unions, and ending politics as usual. The comments on Reddit from 6 years ago and 13 years ago? Most of us have commented things we later had second thoughts about. The nazi tattoo? I believe him that he picked it off the wall, and had no idea that it was a hate symbol. People that don't believe that must not spend much time in tattoo shops. Most flash sheets of designs are grouped by theme, as in, a bunch of skull designs. They are not labeled pirate skull, nazi skull, etc. Just a bunch of skulls, if you think it looks cool, you get it. I never heard the word totenkopf in all my 63 years before now. I believe the guy, and I like what he is saying.

thebigidea

(13,570 posts)
87. I don't believe in saviors, I believe in passing legislation that helps my family
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:45 PM
Jan 20

"He would have the Democratic Party return to its FDR New Deal version"

As if that's a matter of choice and not FDR having a HUGE FUCKING SUPERMAJORITY. Gosh, if only previous democrats had the brilliant idea to have a huge fucking supermajority too.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
105. I don't believe in saviors either.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 08:51 PM
Jan 20

What I believe in is an informed and engaged electorate clamoring for better messaging from Democratic candidates. They are few and far between. This guy has the communication skills to deliver a message. That makes him a critical component in a unified effort.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,293 posts)
90. Curious
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:58 PM
Jan 20

"He would have the Democratic Party return to its FDR New Deal version, and get universal healthcare (i.e. Medicare For All) passed, once and for all."

How would he do that? Bernie, Liz, and Chris haven't.

sheshe2

(96,608 posts)
104. Do you truly believe that tsf would actually sign it or...
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 08:43 PM
Jan 20

any legislation that Democrats may pass?! Oh, and the Senate is not enough, we need a majority in Congress as well to even get something passed Little Mike's desk.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
103. Call me delusional, but if our side regains the Senate and House, then anything is possible if
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 08:43 PM
Jan 20

. . .a traumatized populace awakened from its slumber demands it. The more elected representatives who are willing to buck the insurance industry lobbyists, the better our chances.

Blasphemer

(3,609 posts)
121. Sorry. This is the kind of unicorn thinking that turned me off of the Sanders movement.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 11:57 PM
Jan 20

If we are going to have a serious conversation about this, we cannot live in some fairy and where Platner is going to lead Democrats down the Yellow Brick Road to a place where the Wizard of Oz will wave a wand and fix the impossible.

mr715

(3,230 posts)
140. History
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 01:40 PM
Jan 21

Obama couldn't do it.
Pelosi couldn't do it.
Warren couldn't do it.
Sanders couldn't do it.
Wellstone couldn't do it.
Feingold couldn't do it.
Mondale couldn't do it.
Clinton couldn't do it.
Harris couldn't do it.

But the merc with the nazi tattoo that he did the courtesy of covering up (reactively, not proactively) because he got caught will.

He is entitled and he needs to learn to represent people and party. There will be a primary and he has a very real possibility of being the nominee. If he is, I will support him. But he is not yet. And he hasn't displayed anything other than passion. But passion without a track record (or perhaps with only a problematic track record) is a recipe for major buyers remorse.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
145. Could be the right messenger at the right time + the cumulative decades of effort.
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 03:29 PM
Jan 21

From 1973-1975 I engaged in a seemingly futile effort to get cigarette smoking out of my workplace. People thought I was crazy, and the smokers got downright threatening, but all around the nation others were working on the same issue. What seemed impossible became accepted practice. There are a few other issues that followed a similar pattern, so I won’t give up hope that the stars are coming into alignment.

mr715

(3,230 posts)
146. Could be, but you don't need to be a Senator to lead.
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 03:36 PM
Jan 21

Again, I'd rather see him run for a more local gig first to prove his chops. Talk is cheap. I liked him until his tattoo story broke, and I didn't like how that story panned out. Not ready for a run as important as this.

If he wins the primary, he has my support. I suspect Gov. Mills is a stronger candidate against Sen. Collins.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
148. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 09:36 PM
Jan 21

Maybe he’ll reconsider when he returns from his two week trip to the fertility clinic in Norway.

LetMyPeopleVote

(176,711 posts)
107. I am Jewish and have an issue with someone with a NAZI tattoo
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 08:55 PM
Jan 20

I believe that Governor Mills is a far superior candidate to someone with a NAZI tattoo.

marmar

(79,438 posts)
98. I don't understand the "one white guy" headline. Was that in an article or something?
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 08:29 PM
Jan 20

Could we not figure out that he was white? Why did that need to be said?


ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
101. Fair question.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 08:37 PM
Jan 20

I admit to having an inherent bias against most white male leadership, so I was expressing my personal surprise that I would feel such enthusiasm for this guy.

Iggo

(49,753 posts)
129. Look up stories from last year about his choice of tattoos.
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 10:53 AM
Jan 21

I won’t leave you guessing. He had a nazi deaths head tattoo on his chest for years and just got it covered up last year after getting called out on it.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
115. I'm all in favor of ranked choice voting.
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 09:54 PM
Jan 20

Not familiar with the Paul LePage antidote, in case you’d like to elaborate.

OAITW r.2.0

(31,731 posts)
116. Gov. MAGA Paul got elected in Maine when 60+% voted for two other candidates.....
Tue Jan 20, 2026, 10:05 PM
Jan 20

he won on simple plurality. We have a better voting solution in place, in Maine now.

betsuni

(28,890 posts)
122. Running against the Democratic Party: Establishment beholden to corporate interests ignore working class, both sides.
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 01:30 AM
Jan 21

Where's the evidence of this? Saying something strongly worded into a camera a million times makes it true! Self-righteous name-calling makes it true!

Selling both sides in 2026... What's being sold is the myth that Democrats have the same economic policies of deregulation, privatization, defunding the social safety net and government, no taxes for wealthy and corporations as Republicans. Myth that FDR and New Deal were socialist and the only solution is socialism, convincing customers that classic liberal Democratic policies are socialist but abandoned by Democrats long ago because all they think about is money (as we know from coastal elite Nancy Pelosi's large swanky refrigerator full of expensive ice creams). The whole thing is embarrassing.

Iggo

(49,753 posts)
128. Dude had a nazi tattoo on his chest for years. Got called out last year and covered it up.
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 10:48 AM
Jan 21

He says he didn’t know it was a nazi tattoo.

Here’s the thing that I’m never going to get over: He’s either lying about being too stupid to know it was a nazi tattoo, or he’s telling the truth about being too stupid to know it was a nazi tattoo.

Either way…it doesn’t matter to me what he says into a camera anymore.

MichMan

(16,873 posts)
130. Only got called out because there was a video of him running around shirtless during a wedding reception that surfaced
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 11:51 AM
Jan 21

Who the hell does that?

Just_Vote_Dem

(3,569 posts)
125. Looking at his background, I would venture he's a Repub plant
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 10:05 AM
Jan 21

I doubt that someone would do a complete 360 of their beliefs in a short period of time. I would guess that he's trying to split the party to weaken us, or if he's elected, he becomes a Fetterman/Manchin/Sinema. Hard NO.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
157. I expect more will be revealed during the primary process.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 07:13 AM
Jan 22

Once that’s over, I’m confident the Democrats will unite around the candidate chosen by Maine voters. In the interview, he mentioned being recruited to run. It would be helpful to know who recruited him.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
131. You're absolutely right.
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 12:07 PM
Jan 21

This interview was the first time I’ve heard GP speak, and I was bowled over by the way he so effectively handled questions and delivered the Democratic message In a way I’ve been wanting to hear from elected Democrats. I love Jasmine Crockett, AOC and others, but know their audience is limited by the rampant, free-floating misogyny in our culture.

His detractors may take him down before he can break through, but if my intuition is correct that he isn’t the monster he’s being made out to be, GP has something that could appeal to a wider audience. It’s easier for me to trust people who demonstrate that they’ve learned and evolved from past stupid choices, than people like butter-wouldn’t-melt-in-his-mouth, holier-than-thou, goody-two-shoes creeps like Mike Johnson.

At this stage of the mess we’re in, it would be a shame to lose Platner’s fearless, articulate, and yes, masculine communication skills. We need all the help we can get. All hands on deck.

mr715

(3,230 posts)
139. I take issue with a repeated point you are making.
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 01:33 PM
Jan 21

You keep referencing "masculine communication skills" -- I am trying to wrap my head around that.

Do you mean able to communicate to men and boys? Do you mean his manner of communication is coded?

I want to submit, first of all, I completely agree that he is a dude and he acts like a dude. But where does this special masculine magic come from? Because he was a merc? Because he's got tattoos?

Personally I was really grossed out when Sen. Sheehy got into a broversation with then nothing Pete Hegseth over how many pushups they can do in the morning and the different types of guns they like.

So, to my issue, I don't know what "masculine" communication is any more than I know what "feminine" communication is, but I do know that Rep. Ocasio-Cortez, Rep. Crockett, and others speak as though they are, to use the ambiguous masculine characterization, have a giant dick in their rhetorical pants.

Is Rep. Raskin a feminine speaker? Does Sen. Mullin threatening to fight on the Senate floor give him street cred?

Ariadne -- I am not from Maine so do not have a vote, but my support is to the person that paid their dues. Despite being debased, Senator is still a pretty high rank to run for de novo. If he is a revolutionary, generational talent nothing is stopping this dude from building a career from the ground up.

His ambition makes me question his commitment to ideology. His judgement is questionable. His background is highly suspect (he quite wealthy). He has no track record to speak of other than what he disavows.

So run for the House. Run for dog catcher. Win. Then move up in the world.

This is an election we have to win and Sen. Collins will not be without her supporters. If you think he is uh the 'great white [male] hope' then cool, but opinions will differ.

BTW - is my communication style masculine or feminine?

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
147. Thanks for the opportunity to clarify.
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 09:25 PM
Jan 21

Anyone who knows me would be sore amused at the idea of me being impressed by typical pathetic displays of insecure masculinity, such as push-up contests, gun fetishes, and threats of violence on the Senate floor. Here’s the thing. Way back in 1994 I was in the library doing research for an assigned paper for a college course. A book sort of dropped into my hands, and I found myself scanning its chapter headings. Each one had a quote that drew me in. One was from Paul Fussell, “If we do not redefine manhood, war is inevitable.” That quote set me to wondering, and I’ve been fascinated with the male/female conundrum ever since.

In a nutshell (so to speak), here’s my take. Our reality is shaped by language. Without language we would still be just one of many primates. By its nature, language is coded. Over time, cultural influencers (predominantly male) have segregated certain behaviors/attitudes/preferences/etc. as either “masculine” or “feminine.” Popular culture buys into the Master Narrative, and here we are. Until we evolve a bit further, we’re mired in the world of opposites and stuck with the absurdity of gendered categories for this or that trait.

I recognize that each individual falls somewhere on the spectrum between the extremes on each end of the prevailing masculine/feminine scale. Women generally don’t have to prove we’re women, and fluidly express ourselves within the non-extreme ends of the spectrum. We can express as “masculine” or “feminine” without having to prove that we are still female. Unfortunately, due to the misogyny imbedded in our culture, women who go too far into the territory designated as “masculine” are punished, ignored, and/or not taken seriously within the patriarchal parameters of public life.

Sadly, too many men remain self-confined in the man box, constantly trying to prove their so-called manhood. Hegseth and Trump are notable current examples. Many men, thank goodness, have managed to escape their confinement and expand their bandwidth, like Jamie Raskin, Barack Obama, Sheldon Whitehouse, Robert Reich, and too many others to name.

As for GP, your assessment seems reasonable, and may be entirely accurate. In normal times I would fully agree that he should pay his dues and come up through the ranks. The fierce urgency of now suggests otherwise. Call me a silly female, but my intuition tells me he might be very useful in this current crisis. His communication skills are needed. He certainly isn’t the second coming, but he may be the right person for the moment we’re in. The dude factor would free many men to shift away from the Frankenstein monster version of manhood displayed by Trump’s goons, and be willing to align with Democratic values and ideals, leading to a more perfect union. I almost said, “. . .willing to embrace,” but found another word to avoid using potentially emasculating language. See how that works?

Your communication skills seem like a nice balance on the spectrum, and that’s a very good thing.

mr715

(3,230 posts)
149. Thank you for taking the time to reply.
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 09:46 PM
Jan 21

There is a lot of fascinating scholarship on how our language shapes our civic behavior. Not just gender-coded language, but color coding. Heck, I'm a lefty and it is much better to be "dexterous" than "sinister".

I was strongly in support of Mr. Platner before the scandals, and that is what gives me pause. I agree with you entirely that command of the narrative, passion, and authenticity will deliver us votes. There is something enticing about a bold agenda, and you are not wrong that it has the capacity to mobilize young men in particular.

Thank you for the clarification. We will see how it turns out. Primaries are good.

I'm willing to be wrong.


~MR

Iggo

(49,753 posts)
141. Is this a trial balloon or is this the actual roll-out?
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 02:24 PM
Jan 21

Are you guys actually leaning into, and trying to sell, his whiteness and his masculinity? If so, that ain’t gonna fly. He’s been toast since the tattoo. For all I know, he may actually be too stupid to know he was sporting a nazi tattoo all those years. But that’s not a selling point.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
142. It would surprise me if you thought he was intellectually deficient if you listened to the interview.
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 03:04 PM
Jan 21

Also, I’m not trying to sell anything. This is DU, and I assumed it was okay to engage in discourse because democracy, y’know? As for his whiteness and masculinity, we live in a society obsessed with race and gender. It seems silly not to consider the impact of those variables.

betsuni

(28,890 posts)
143. Belief that working class are white men (who Democrats are accused of ignoring in favor of "identity politics"):
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 03:12 PM
Jan 21

The leader explains (interviewed by Trevor Noah on his podcast last year, October 9th):

"What you're talking about is identity politics. ... The issue is that Democrats have retreated from class issues, from economic issues, from the desire to take on big money to 'Oh, isn't it wonderful that we have a woman here or have a gay person here and we have a black person here and a Latino person over there."

Of course it's absurd.

EX500rider

(12,253 posts)
137. it's on his wiki page
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 12:58 PM
Jan 21
In 2018, Platner returned to Kabul, Afghanistan, for about six months as a State Department security contractor with Constellis, the private military company formerly known as Blackwater, where he provided diplomatic security to the US ambassador to Afghanistan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Platner#Military

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
138. Thank you very much.
Wed Jan 21, 2026, 01:28 PM
Jan 21

I’ll delve into this further. Now I want to know what led him to this position, and what prompted him to leave after six months.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
156. If you are correct, rhen another Fetterman would be very bad.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 06:55 AM
Jan 22

If not, then it would be a shame to lose his singular attributes. He communicates progressive Democratic policies in a way I’ve seen too few Democrats able to muster. As I remember, an awful lot of Bernie voters switched to Trump after he was eliminated.

rzemanfl

(31,257 posts)
160. We will soon get to see how a 77-year-old middle of the road woman stands up to ICE.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 08:21 AM
Jan 22

I hope that no ICE thugs get a lobster roll anywhere in her state.

After reading this thread and the threads that were linked to it therein, I find myself thinking that somewhere in Croatia a tattooist is laughing his ass off. I wonder how many U.S. GIs woke up hungover with a Nazi death head tattoo. I doubt the candidate is the only one.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
161. I love the variety of insights and perspectives on DU.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:47 AM
Jan 22

The ICE goons should be deprived of lobster rolls. In fact, their culinary and cultural options should be devoid of any and all non-white bread influence.

Iggo

(49,753 posts)
169. He looked at that tattoo in the mirror for 18 years and did nothing about it until he was called out last year.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 03:42 PM
Jan 22

That ain’t “woke up hungover.”

rzemanfl

(31,257 posts)
170. I wasn't talking about him. I was talking about other inebriated GIs.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 05:02 PM
Jan 22

Croatia apparently has a lot of neo-Nazis.

LetMyPeopleVote

(176,711 posts)
164. Maine Senate candidate downplayed sexual assault concerns in deleted posts
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 11:28 AM
Jan 22

Democrat Graham Platner disavowed the comments in an interview with The Washington Post, saying, “I don’t want people to judge me off the dumbest thing I said on the internet 12 years ago.”

Maine Senate candidate downplayed sexual assault concerns in deleted posts - The Washington Post

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/202...

Susan Pennington (@spennington.bsky.social) 2025-10-18T03:05:36.162Z

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/10/17/graham-platner-sexual-assault-comments-senate-midterms/

In a separate thread about a video promoting underwear designed to prevent rape, Platner urged people to avoid alcohol so they don’t end up in a dangerous situation.

“Rape is a real thing,” he wrote. “If you’re so worried about it to buy Kevlar underwear you’d think you might not get blacked out f----d up around people you aren’t comfortable with.”

The posts, which were obtained by The Washington Post and verified using an archive of deleted Reddit comments, are part of a large cache of online messages that were deleted shortly before Platner launched his insurgent bid to defeat Republican Sen. Susan Collins in Maine. CNN first reported that the oyster farmer and Marine Corps combat veteran ridiculed rural White Mainers as “actually” racist and stupid in 2020 and described himself as a communist on the platform. On Friday, Platner’s political director resigned, saying in a resignation letter his online comments "are not words or values I can stand behind in a candidate for the United States Senate.”

Platner disavowed the comments in a Friday interview with The Post that marked his first public remarks on the posts about sexual assault. He said he was at a low point in his life in 2013 after returning from a fourth deployment to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Feeling “utterly lost and isolated,” he said, he sought community on sometimes “toxic” corners of Reddit as he battled post-traumatic stress disorder that he was then not receiving treatment for......

One of Platner’s 2013 comments was a reply to a user who defended the need for the “anti-rape” shorts. “There’s always that story about the girl who gets raped because she drank too much and somebody took advantage of that,” that commenter wrote.

“How about people just take some responsibility for themselves and not get so f----d up they wind up having sex with someone they don’t mean to?” Platner said in reply. “Men and women, you make a choice to consume enough of a substance to lose your self control. So if you don’t want to be in a [compromising] situation, act like an adult for f---s sake.”


Quiet Em

(2,636 posts)
171. If you like white guys from Maine who run in Democratic Primaries
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 05:16 PM
Jan 22

might I suggest you take a look at the Maine 2nd Congressional District race? There are white guys running in that race and their Republican oppenent will be that jackass LePage. Golden, who voted for ICE funding on his way out the door, is retiring, and I'd love to keep that House seat filled with a Democrat.

ariadne0614

(2,153 posts)
175. My preference is dynamic women like Jasmine Crockett and AOC,
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 08:17 PM
Jan 22

. . .although I’m glad to support progressive white men with excellent messaging skills. Thanks for the information.

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