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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMeet Graham Platner. Here is one white guy who can help save the Democratic Party from itself, imho.
His Daily Beast interview with Joanna Cole was this radical (tongue in cheek) feminists introduction, and Im sold.
If you know very little about Graham Platner, hes running against the establishment Democratic candidate for U.S. Senator from Maine. If he wins the primary, hell take on the very concerned Susan Collins. Hes supported by Bernie, Liz Warren, Chris Murphy and other good guys. Id love to see him working shoulder-to-shoulder with the aforementioned, plus Sheldon Whitehouse, Tammy Duckworth, Ruben Gallego, Mark Kelly, Jon Ossoff, Raphael Warnock, etc.
The way he handled every question was a wonder to behold. Plainspoken, credible, masculine-in-the-good-way, this ex-Marine (current oyster farmer) who fought in Iraq & Afghanistan deserves all the support we can provide. He would have the Democratic Party return to its FDR New Deal version, and get universal healthcare (i.e. Medicare For All) passed, once and for all.
And yes, the interview addresses the scandals of his pastin a most satisfactory way, I might add. Oh, and ignore the click-bait, sensationalistic YouTube title.
https://www.grahamforsenate.com/
JustAnotherGen
(37,771 posts)Are you okay with Pete Kegsbreath's Nazi / White Supremacist Tattoos?
Platner has some too.
I want to make sure people are being consistent here.
I'm terrified of the Democratic Party Returning to the Raw Deal for Black Americans who had been here since 1619.
It's also a return to the status quo. That's not acceptable. We need public hangings, life imprisonment, life long loss of voting etc. etc.
I'd fear this guy turns out to be another Fetterman - always taking sides with the right.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Going with my gut on this one.
berksdem
(907 posts)to look up his old reddit posts too - you might change your mind
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)The Reddit posts were addressed.
berksdem
(907 posts)Now, hold him to accountability like we hold people on the right.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Its interesting that you watched the entire interview. Id love to know which of his responses were unsatisfactory, and whether his demeanor offended you in any way.
JustAnotherGen
(37,771 posts)This past year we've gotten a lot of lip service from well-meaning white liberals and leftists that their peers should 'listen to Black women'.
But time and again they don't.
And so when we warned about Fetterman - we were poo pooed.
And now - we are warning about Platner and again - we are being poo pooed and shushed.
When he gets elected and shows his true colors - not a rehearsed answer . . .
You heard it from this Black woman first: Told all y'all.
As long as he doesn't suck money away from Candidates who won't be afraid to vote for things like the VRA or CRA . . . god bless him. But that means we need two staunch Black Senators to offset him.
So we all need to get behind Jasmine Crockett who does NOT have white supremacist tattoos on her body.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Still, after the backlash against Barack, Hillary and Kamala, I fear well be stuck in a white male power structure for the duration. He came across as very progressive in the interview, so Im still reserving judgement till I know more.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)berksdem
(907 posts)b/c this entire post is folks going against your swooning
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)BTW, radical feminists dont swoon, especially over close-minded white men. Are you attempting to bully an elderly woman (and fellow DUer) into sitting down and shutting up? I intend to defend my OP until the bitter end.
you must be a real treat at parties. nobody is bullying you and how the heck would I know if you are a female or male let alone a radical feminist.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Im not mad at you.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,662 posts)every day can bring wonders I guess
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)sheshe2
(96,612 posts)Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #1)
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ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)We can agree on your New Deal point. Im thinking more along the lines of striving toward a more perfect union, and he gave me the strong impression that he feels the same way. Repeating the failings of the New Deal era would be unacceptable, but a solid foundation was laid.
You lost me with the notion of public hangings, etc. That would be a return to the status quo of previous times of horror. Life imprisonment without parole for the worst of the worst works for me, with the caveat that the convicts would be made available as objects of study by historians, sociologists, neuroscientists, psychologists, etc. Their personal privacy would be forfeited in favor of regular reports to the public. Findings would be used to pass laws, and used in (age appropriate, of course) mandatory civics classes in every K-12 public school curriculum.
Buckeyeblue
(6,280 posts)We have a long list of people who have been exonerated after being convicted of crimes. Our justice system is economically based. The justice you get is proportional to the justice you pay for. And we all know that cops lie, DAs hide evidence and over charge to get easy plea bargains, judges are biased. We say people are innocent until proven guilty but the second people are arrested they are dehumanized and stripped of their dignity.
So I'm a hard no on the death penalty.
JustAnotherGen
(37,771 posts)IE - The justice system.
There is a sharp divide between Black women and the rest of America on what needs to be done to decimate and dominate the Confederacy's Successors (magapubs) once and for all.
From where I sit in America? The ballots didn't work. . .
LymphocyteLover
(9,556 posts)once he "realized" the problem.
JustAnotherGen
(37,771 posts)It shows a lack of judgment that he did not do it until it was pointed out. The fact that he has had mental issues does not give me warm fuzzies either.
Regardless - I believe Maine will re-elect 'Deeply Concerned' whether they actually vote for her not. Hopefully they'll all come together for the greater good.
I also have to note - I had Andy Kim shoved down my throat. He voted for Kristi Noem. I hold him responsible for ICE's actions.
LymphocyteLover
(9,556 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(26,662 posts)ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Based on the comments so far, Im guessing the right wing/oligarch message machine is working overtime to discredit this guy. Since I dont know you or the other naysayers, Im going with the judgement of Bernie and Liz Warren, and the vibe I get from him in this interview.
I do hope others will watch the interview and judge for themselves.
Autumn
(48,867 posts)head on straight.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Thats my assessment as well, after paying close attention to politics and politicians since the Watergate era.
Autumn
(48,867 posts)they have gotten with comrades that were supposed to mean one thing but turned out to mean something else. I like the guy.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)EX500rider
(12,253 posts)Autumn
(48,867 posts)EX500rider
(12,253 posts)betsuni
(28,890 posts)Autumn
(48,867 posts)obamanut2012
(29,246 posts)And, they have served this country since the French and Indian Wars. Including my BIL, who fought in Iraq, and he and his military buddies never felt the need to bond by lauding Nazis on their skin.
Autumn
(48,867 posts)Platners campaign initially said he would remove the tattoo, yet Platner said he later chose to cover it up with another tattoo due to the limited options where he lives in rural Maine.Going to a tattoo removal place is going to take a while, he said. I wanted this thing off my body.
The initial tattoo image resembled a specific symbol of Hitlers paramilitary Schutzstaffel, or SS, which was responsible for the systematic murders of millions of Jews and others in Europe during World War II.
A Celtic knot and a dog-like creature
The new tattoo, completed late Tuesday, now is a Celtic knot with a dog-like creature splayed in the middle of it. The animal has four gangly legs and an elongated head with a curly tongue spiraling out. The image is mostly filled in with black ink, but the Celtic knot is green.
EX500rider
(12,253 posts)IMO that makes him either a liar or stupid, neither a good look IMO
mr715
(3,234 posts)obamanut2012
(29,246 posts)Wow.
obamanut2012
(29,246 posts)If someone disagrees with you, you are saying they are brainwashed.
For alerters: I am not saying OP is RW, I am saying they are using some of the same strategies when folks disagree with them.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)It would help to know which RW strategies you believe I employed with people who disagreed with me. I enjoy living and learning, and engaging civil discourse. I think its considered part of democratic process.
mucholderthandirt
(1,773 posts)I'm a white, elderly woman who has been a feminist since I was twelve. I've probably been a radical feminist as long as that, and I don't support people like Platner.
You can do what you like. You can support whom you like. But you seem to want us to ignore his past, as we would not do for someone in the opposition. That's not how this works. And no, I'm not watching some clickbait title site to see how the guy defended himself from charges that basically have no defense.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)That is not the case, I promise. You will do what you like, and I will continue to delve deeper. Since you havent watched the interview, theres not much to discuss. Ill just say its discomforting to think about withholding redemption from a sincere repentant. We seem to land on different ends of the radical feminist spectrum.
Blue_Adept
(6,499 posts)Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #2)
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tritsofme
(19,843 posts)Happy to leave that as the exclusive domain of the Trumpers.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)However, I have an open mind, and always seek the unvarnished truth. Please cite your sources, which I will consider. In return, it would add to your credibility if you have given him the chance to explain himself.
MichMan
(16,874 posts)ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)They didnt show up when I did an advanced search of his name before posting my OP. Ill check them out after I make lunch and prep vegetables for dinner.
MichMan
(16,874 posts)Still think he is wonderful?
TommyT139
(2,238 posts)...since he went all those years not thinking about what his body communicated to anyone who saw him at the beach (for instance). That completely undercuts his attempts to distance himself from his decisions.
If he's a decent guy, he'll continue to do public good, watch what he posts/emails, and maybe in the future, fine.
A guy who gets Nazi tattoos removed only after getting questioned about them isn't ready to defend a state against fascists.
awesomerwb1
(5,038 posts)F this guy
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)And, if I had money to spare, Id make regular contributions.
This doesnt sound like something your average Nazi would do.
https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/local/graham-platner-to-take-campaign-hiatus-to-travel-to-norway-for-ivf-with-wife/97-6efaee11-e76f-41fe-9d3d-6259b56221c0#
awesomerwb1
(5,038 posts)ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)We must be viewing him through radically different lenses.
awesomerwb1
(5,038 posts)It's difficult to read his disgraceful posts from not that long ago and conclude he's a good Dem candidate.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Are you proud of everything youve ever said and done? Have you owned up to your worst mistakes and errors in judgement? It seems to me that hes done so, in public.
I know, I know. Democratic candidates must be practically perfect, in every way.
What I do know is that the right wing will do whatever it takes to take him down, with the help of quite a few Democrats, it seems.
awesomerwb1
(5,038 posts)He's running for office!
Once a Nazi, always a Nazi.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Yes, hes a candidate, and he also happens to be a 41-year old human being who did stupid stuff when he was under 30. Funny how that works.
Did you happen to see the reply about his tattoo?
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,662 posts)Walking around with a totenkopf tattoo for YEARS instead of getting rid of it ranks right on up there.
mr715
(3,234 posts)He's been an adult for a while!
awesomerwb1
(5,038 posts)this dude to DU.
He's a bad candidate with a lot of baggage. Bye.
Jack Valentino
(4,627 posts)Based on her actions as Governor of Maine leading into her 2025-2026 U.S. Senate campaign, Janet Mills has developed a record that has drawn criticism from the progressive wing of the Democratic party. While she is viewed as a moderate and a key opponent of1 Donald Trump, her, use of the veto pen on labor, housing, and tribal issues, along with a fiscally conservative approach, has created friction with the left.
Here are the specific, more conservative actions taken by Governor Mills that have made her less acceptable to the progressive left:
1. Vetoing Key Labor and Worker Rights Bills
Opposed Expanded Collective Bargaining: Mills vetoed legislation in 2024 that would have strengthened collective bargaining rights by banning anti-union intimidation tactics.
Axed Noncompete Agreement Ban: She killed a bill that would have banned restrictive noncompete agreements, which labor advocates argued restricted worker mobility.
Weakened Farmworker Protections: While she eventually signed a version of a bill setting a $14.65 minimum wage for farmworkers, she removed critical enforcement provisions, limiting its impact.
Vetoed "Buy Local" Requirements: She vetoed legislation that would have required state government contracts to prioritize local Maine businesses over multinational corporations.
Opposed Overtime Protections: She vetoed a bill that would have required the state to study the issue of paper mill workers being forced to work excessive overtime.
2. Fiscal and Economic Conservatism
Conservative Budgeting/Surplus Retention: Critics from the left argue that Mills administration has been too conservative in forecasting, resulting in unnecessary, large budget surpluses rather than investing in social programs or infrastructure.
Opposed Raising Taxes on the Wealthy: She opposed 2024 tax reform proposals intended to raise taxes on wealthy residents to balance the budget, drawing criticism for prioritizing corporate interests.
Opposed Rent Control/Tenant Protection: In 2019, she blocked tenant protection reforms that would have mandated more notice before rent hikes and evictions, citing burdens on business.
3. Stances on Social and Justice Issues
Vetoed Youth Prison Closure: A significant point of criticism from progressives was her veto of a proposal to close the Long Creek Youth Development Center, a facility critics have described as unsafe and punitive.
"Yellow Flag" Gun Law Defense: Following the 2023 Lewiston mass shooting, she resisted calls for a "Red Flag" law (which allows for the temporary removal of firearms from dangerous individuals), choosing instead to stand by Maines existing "Yellow Flag" law, which is seen as a compromise by gun control advocates.
Supported Filibuster: Mills has stated her support for retaining the U.S. Senate filibuster, which many progressive Democrats want to eliminate to pass legislation with a simple majority.
Opposition to Drug Decriminalization: She has expressed opposition to the decriminalization of drug possession, putting her at odds with reformers on the far left.
4. Tribal Relations and Environmental Issues
Vetoed Tribal Sovereignty Bills: Mills has faced intense backlash for vetoing legislation aimed at enhancing tribal sovereignty, including a bill that would have ensured Wabanaki Nations received the same federal rights as other Native American tribes.
Legal Challenges Against Tribes: As governor, her administration has been accused of "environmental racism" by tribal leaders for legal challenges involving water quality standards and fishing rights on the Penobscot River.
5. Environmental Policy
Stance on Clean Energy Jobs: She killed a permitting reform bill designed to accelerate offshore wind projects because it included a mandate for union jobs, a move that drew ire from labor-aligned environmentalists.
6. Opposing Federal Action
Criticized ACA Subsidy Deal: In late 2025, she drew criticism for calling a bipartisan deal to reopen the federal government a "lousy deal," arguing it didn't do enough to immediately address Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) subsidies, a move seen by some as obstructionist rather than constructive.
These actions have caused her support among Democrats to drop in some polls, leading to a competitive primary challenge from progressive candidates in her bid for the Senate, particularly with support from figures like Bernie Sanders for her opponents.
Most of those things 'give me "pause' over Janet Mills--- more than what some say was a 'nazi tattoo' that Platner has since covered up.....
which most likely was not labeled as a 'nazi tattoo' at the tattoo shop where he got it....
It's up to the Democratic primary voters in Maine, I will support whomever they nominate as an out-stater---
but some of the things Mills has actually DONE against progressive policy
concern me a little more than anything Platner had tattooed on his body which he has since covered up...
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Nevertheless, dont be surprised if it turns out youve drawn the wrong conclusions. For my part, I will maintain an open mind and continue to assess the situation. Until then, I like him.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,662 posts)thebigidea
(13,570 posts)Historic NY
(39,797 posts)ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Platner is no Fetterman.
W_HAMILTON
(10,238 posts)Autumn
(48,867 posts)2naSalit
(100,973 posts)With Governor Mills.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)However, being a septuagenarian myself, it seems folly to choose someone who would be well into her 80s by the end of her first term. We need to make way for dynamic leadership from the generations who will be left with theyre inheriting from us.
2naSalit
(100,973 posts)A Maine voter?
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Torchlight
(6,514 posts)Good luck!
sheshe2
(96,612 posts)Sanders who you have mentioned as having endorsed Platner is 84 years old and will be 90 when his term ends. You also mentioned Warren's endorsement who is 75 and will be 81 when her term ends.
You can't have it both ways.
PS. Warren is my Senator, and I like her a lot though I don't necessarily agree with her on this decision.
Cha
(317,718 posts)Crickets she.
Oh and Maine Sen. Angus King is 81.. soon to be 82. He was born on Mar 31, 1944.. this term is up Jan 3 2031.
Bringing up the "Age Thing" against Gov Janet Mills seems a bit hypocritical ...
Thank you!
sheshe2
(96,612 posts)And thanks for adding Angus King to the list!
Ya can't have it both ways.
You are welcome.
.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)I also believe its important for us to make way for a new generation of leaders. Theres a fine balance, and discernment is required.
BTW, I didnt mean to ignore your reply. Today was consumed by the Jack Smith hearing and a major cleaning project.
questionseverything
(11,676 posts)Last edited Tue Jan 20, 2026, 04:00 PM - Edit history (1)
Adding to my original post, I dont think AIPAC approved candidates are a good thing, I think the opposite as I dont support the genocide Israel has unleashed on Gaza or the West Bank
LetMyPeopleVote
(176,745 posts)Mills is clearly more electable than any other candidate
Maine Gov. Janet Millsâ entrance into the Senate race on Tuesday marks a significant escalation in political firepower aimed at longtime GOP Sen. Susan Collins. We are moving the contest from Lean R -> Toss Up.
— The Cook Political Report (@cookpolitical.com) 2025-10-14T13:38:17.516Z
https://www.cookpolitical.com/analysis/senate/maine-senate/maine-senate-race-moves-toss-mills-entrance
Mills, of course, does not have a clear path to the nomination, and there is no guarantee that she will win it. But she is a top-tier recruit in a field that currently lacks a well-known or well-established candidate. And while Collins has defied electoral expectations for decades, the political environment today is more polarized than ever, which makes Collins ability to effectively straddle partisan lines more challenging.
As such, we are moving the contest from Lean Republican to Toss Up.
There are several other Democrats in the race, but oyster farmer and first-time political candidate Graham Platner appears to be Mills most serious
leftstreet
(39,509 posts)Which isn't surprising given that Maine has the "oldest" average population of all the states
If he's the nominee, it'll be interesting to see how it translates to election numbers vs Collins (or the GOPer who runs instead)
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Many fine people on both sides.
https://mainemorningstar.com/2025/12/04/national-progressive-group-throws-support-behind-graham-platner/
TommyT139
(2,238 posts)Yikes, that's a phrase that brings back memories!
It works on multiple levels, but you cant use your gut to grasp the subtleties.
TommyT139
(2,238 posts)...to Trump's "both-sides"-ing the Nazis in Charlottesville.
FascismIsDeath
(100 posts)This guy has way too much baggage.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)The zeitgeist suggests to me, that the Democrats are Jonesing for fighters. Hes a fighter.
To be fair, my desire to see a female president before I die has taken a back seat to my bitter recognition that our culture is still too consumed by misogyny and sexism to change in timeon both sides. Therefore, my heart and head are open to a white man who has the moral and intellectual integrity to learn and grow into a more evolved definition of manhood. If that makes me timid, Ill cop to it.
Based on the interview, his comments on Susan Collins convinced me that her time is over. Hes talked to a lot of rural Maine voters.
rzemanfl
(31,257 posts)went into the oyster business because he thought it might help his wife conceive.
Dont most Marines have tattoos? When I have a better device I will post
a link to an article about tattoos and the Marine culture,
betsuni
(28,890 posts)What does that mean?
rzemanfl
(31,257 posts)he briefed on the subject of tattoos had at least one.
https://www.miramar-ems.marines.mil/News/News-Article-Display/Article/556982/to-ink-or-not-to-inknew-regulations-answer-the-question/
Maybe a skull and crossbones tattoo would look better with an eye patch or a pegleg, but I don't think it should be disqualifying
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,662 posts)rzemanfl
(31,257 posts)The SS skull is very distinctive. The pirate and poison skull and crossbones are virtually identical, although the position of the bones, either behind or below the skull varies in both. The SS skull has much shorter bones that are behind the skull and appear to be stacked on top of each other.
On edit, there is a picture of the tattoo up thread I hadn't seen when I wrote the above. It sure looks like a Nazi death head to me, although the skull seems tilted.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,662 posts)what it was.
https://themainemonitor.org/platner-tattoo-nazi-totenkopf/
He called it "my totenkopf" as well, according to a former campaign official.
EX500rider
(12,253 posts)Last edited Tue Jan 20, 2026, 09:26 PM - Edit history (2)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS-Totenkopfverb%C3%A4nde
rzemanfl
(31,257 posts)rzemanfl
(31,257 posts)I find it odd that a Croatian tattoo artist would be doing these tattoos. Croatia was a Nazi puppet state during World War II.
Of course, I also find it odd that Americans whose fathers fought the Nazis support Trump's fascism. Go figure.
Cirsium
(3,672 posts)That doesn't surprise me at all. Neo-Nazi movements and historical revisionism are rampant in the former Warsaw Pact countries. Croatia, Slovakia, Lithuania and Ukraine were full of unapologetic Nazi collaborators and war criminals, many never held to account, supported by the US as "anti-Communists" and their crimes were largely white washed.
Croatian Jews say little effort is made to tamp down valorization of the brutal Ustae collaborationist regime.
Next month marks the 80th anniversary of the end of World War II as well as the collapse of the Ustae regime, the Nazi puppet government formally known as the Independent State of Croatia. Its territory which encompassed much of todays Croatia as well as neighboring Bosnia and parts of modern-day Serbia housed around 30 concentration camps including Jasenovac and two camps specifically for children, Jastrebarsko and Sisak.
During its reign of terror, the Ustae regime persecuted and murdered hundreds of thousands of Serbs, Jews and Roma, as well as Croatians opposed to their rule. The Catholic Church openly collaborated with the Ustae, whose support came largely from young men with rural, blue-collar, uneducated backgrounds.
In 2016, Croatias then-president posed with a Ustae flag during a trip to Canada, despite having previously expressed regret about the regime during a state trip to Israel. Today, nationalist sympathizers continue to use the prohibited, yet increasingly tolerated, slogan Za Dom Spremni (Defend the Homeland) the Ustae equivalent of the Nazi Sieg Heil.
In a sign of how widespread Nazi sentiments may be, Marko Perkovic, a Croatian singer who goes by Thompson, known for his Nazi sympathies, has sold more than 500,000 tickets for an outdoor concert in July. Tena Banjeglav, program coordinator at Documenta: Center for Dealing With the Past, a Zagreb-based nonprofit group, notes that Nazi signs have potent symbolism for some Croatians.
https://forward.com/news/716692/pro-nazi-singer-sells-out-zagreb-arena-as-croatias-collaborationist-past-sheds-its-taboo/
rzemanfl
(31,257 posts)I was not aware of any of this. Now I am wondering if the tattooist enjoyed inking Nazi symbols into the skins of American troops.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,662 posts)rzemanfl
(31,257 posts)charged the drunken Americans and got another check from the party as well.
EX500rider
(12,253 posts)W_HAMILTON
(10,238 posts)No thank you.
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leftstreet
(39,509 posts)Looking at feedback, they're older, somewhat conservative, and unhappy with Collins
Unless you're just referring to the online noise
delisen
(7,288 posts)One conman is destroying us because too many Americans yearn for a political savior. The masked man who rides in a white horse and whips everything into shape.
lostincalifornia
(5,095 posts)Conner Lamb.
That worked out real well.
It took only how many years before he though a nazi tattoo wasn't a good look?
Judgement is everything.
mountain grammy
(28,807 posts)I won't trash either Democrat running in the primary.. it's up to Maine voters.
I will be donating to whoever is the Democratic primary choice for Senator.
I'm satisfied that Platner has addressed his problems.. I honestly don't think it's so serious..Right now I just want them to run on policies and the future they want for Maine and America..
We need Collins out!!! That's all we should be focused on. She is our enemy, not Democrat Platner or Democrat Mills..
chelsea0011
(10,213 posts)You are right to say beating Collins is first on the list Platner was said to be thinking about running for 2nd Congressional District in ME. He should. Le Page is back from his home in FL to run for office again. That lunatic needs to be stopped also. And I believe him about not knowing the tat origin story. I read and watch a lot of WWll history and am unaware of that insignia. He cant beat Mills so his run will be all for not and we will lose a congressional seat.
mountain grammy
(28,807 posts)Is there any democrat running in your second district? If not is the end of the primary too late to run for the office? I dont know Maines rules on how this works, and when someone can file to run for office.
Yes, it would be a shame to give up a house seat that is winnable. The most important thing to be focused on is beating Republicans that is it. So yes, if no Democrat is running in the second district he should run there or maybe Mills should.
Thanks again for your response. I love Maine. Havent been there for 50 years but many fond memories Beautiful state. Hopefully will get back one of these days.
chelsea0011
(10,213 posts)but, Jared Golden who decided not to run, had his two elections decided by thinnest of margins. There are Democrats running but Northern Maine is very Republican and strong Le Page voters up there. Platner, a vet and solid ME persona being fisherman and resident can get by with the long standing canard up here of being from away as Susan Collins used on her last challenger. Oh, Im from away even owning a house for 25 years.
mountain grammy
(28,807 posts)I never understood the attraction of LePage. Sure would love to see Collins lose
Good luck Mainers! Hope someone great stands up for that house seat.
BannonsLiver
(20,316 posts)I dont care about his tattoos or his purity score on bullshit culture war identity politics issues rammed down our collective throats by special interest groups who care about their own personal wants more than actually winning elections. If he can win, then great. If he cant then he needs to get out of the way.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)I didnt get the impression that he was ever interested in running for office.
mr715
(3,234 posts)mr715
(3,234 posts)I question his judgement and I think the 'old' v 'young' framing is a bit fallacious - the dude is an adult, and there are standards.
It is good to have electricity, but he needs to earn my support. He can do that by establishing a little more Democratic credibility - run for House and win. Run for Mayor of Portland for that matter. Be a Democrat and market yourself as such: if you want to be a part of this party, you gotta share your "potent magic". Senate is a pretty entitled take.
Yeah, I get it. We get people that can make a strong populist message and cloak themselves in "anti-establishment" mojo, but when you aren't elected and already eliciting scandal, give me the bland Democrat that won statewide.
Covering up the tattoo was the first step on the road to Damascus.
obamanut2012
(29,246 posts)He also is a bit of a fake populist.
Janet Mills is perfectly fine for now.
LetMyPeopleVote
(176,745 posts)Once a Senate candidate reaches the point at which he has to deny being a secret Nazi, his campaign isnt quite where it should be.
âMaineâs Graham Platner faces difficult questions about his record â and a tattoo: Once a Senate candidate reaches the point at which he has to deny being a secret Nazi, his campaign isnât quite where it should be.â www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...
— (@halfmarshall.bsky.social) 2025-10-23T01:57:13.441Z
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/maines-graham-platner-faces-difficult-questions-record-tattoo-rcna239152
The first sign of trouble came to the fore last week, when Politico reported that Platner once suggested in online posts that violence is a necessary means to achieving social change. Around the same time, CNN reported on since-deleted comments Platner had made online in which he once called himself a communist, dismissed all police as bastards, and said rural White Americans actually are racist and stupid.
The candidate disavowed his earlier rhetoric, but other revelations soon followed. Indeed, also last week, The Bangor Daily News reported that Platner also posted messages online in which he asked why Black people dont tip and suggested people concerned about being raped shouldnt be inebriated around people they dont feel comfortable with.
After that report reached the public, Platners political director resigned.
That was late last week. This week, we learned about the Senate hopefuls choice in tattoos. Politico reported:
Democratic Maine Senate hopeful Graham Platner expressed regret over getting a tattoo that appears similar to a Nazi symbol nearly two decades ago and plans to have it removed, his latest mea culpa after a week of damning headlines over resurfaced social media posts. ... Platner reiterated that he got the tattoo while out drinking with fellow Marines in Croatia, choosing the skull and crossbones off a wall at the tattoo parlor. He said the similarity to Nazi iconography never came up, including when he underwent physical exams mandated by the U.S. Army, which prohibits tattoos of identified hate symbols.
In other words, Platners defense is that he didnt know he had a tattoo on his chest that resembles a Nazi symbol. Whats more, on Wednesday morning, he and his team said the image has now been covered......
Whether or not thats true, once a Senate candidate reaches the point at which he has to deny being a secret Nazi, his campaign isnt quite where it should be.
Democratic officials had already started rallying behind Mills, who has said shell only serve one term if elected. In light of the revelations about Platners record, its likely that party support will intensify. Watch this space.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)I appreciate the bounty of information being provided in many replies to my OP. Nevertheless, as challenging as his candidacy may be, I like this guy. Call it radical feminist intuition. Complexity doesnt scare me.
Americanme
(434 posts)He's not perfect, but I like him. I like his position on health care, labor unions, and ending politics as usual. The comments on Reddit from 6 years ago and 13 years ago? Most of us have commented things we later had second thoughts about. The nazi tattoo? I believe him that he picked it off the wall, and had no idea that it was a hate symbol. People that don't believe that must not spend much time in tattoo shops. Most flash sheets of designs are grouped by theme, as in, a bunch of skull designs. They are not labeled pirate skull, nazi skull, etc. Just a bunch of skulls, if you think it looks cool, you get it. I never heard the word totenkopf in all my 63 years before now. I believe the guy, and I like what he is saying.
thebigidea
(13,570 posts)"He would have the Democratic Party return to its FDR New Deal version"
As if that's a matter of choice and not FDR having a HUGE FUCKING SUPERMAJORITY. Gosh, if only previous democrats had the brilliant idea to have a huge fucking supermajority too.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)What I believe in is an informed and engaged electorate clamoring for better messaging from Democratic candidates. They are few and far between. This guy has the communication skills to deliver a message. That makes him a critical component in a unified effort.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,293 posts)"He would have the Democratic Party return to its FDR New Deal version, and get universal healthcare (i.e. Medicare For All) passed, once and for all."
How would he do that? Bernie, Liz, and Chris haven't.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)sheshe2
(96,612 posts)any legislation that Democrats may pass?! Oh, and the Senate is not enough, we need a majority in Congress as well to even get something passed Little Mike's desk.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)sheshe2
(96,612 posts)ariadne0614
(2,153 posts). . .a traumatized populace awakened from its slumber demands it. The more elected representatives who are willing to buck the insurance industry lobbyists, the better our chances.
Blasphemer
(3,612 posts)If we are going to have a serious conversation about this, we cannot live in some fairy and where Platner is going to lead Democrats down the Yellow Brick Road to a place where the Wizard of Oz will wave a wand and fix the impossible.
Obama couldn't do it.
Pelosi couldn't do it.
Warren couldn't do it.
Sanders couldn't do it.
Wellstone couldn't do it.
Feingold couldn't do it.
Mondale couldn't do it.
Clinton couldn't do it.
Harris couldn't do it.
But the merc with the nazi tattoo that he did the courtesy of covering up (reactively, not proactively) because he got caught will.
He is entitled and he needs to learn to represent people and party. There will be a primary and he has a very real possibility of being the nominee. If he is, I will support him. But he is not yet. And he hasn't displayed anything other than passion. But passion without a track record (or perhaps with only a problematic track record) is a recipe for major buyers remorse.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)From 1973-1975 I engaged in a seemingly futile effort to get cigarette smoking out of my workplace. People thought I was crazy, and the smokers got downright threatening, but all around the nation others were working on the same issue. What seemed impossible became accepted practice. There are a few other issues that followed a similar pattern, so I wont give up hope that the stars are coming into alignment.
mr715
(3,234 posts)Again, I'd rather see him run for a more local gig first to prove his chops. Talk is cheap. I liked him until his tattoo story broke, and I didn't like how that story panned out. Not ready for a run as important as this.
If he wins the primary, he has my support. I suspect Gov. Mills is a stronger candidate against Sen. Collins.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Maybe hell reconsider when he returns from his two week trip to the fertility clinic in Norway.
LetMyPeopleVote
(176,745 posts)ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Perhaps I am too sleepy, so would you please share what makes you smile? Im genuinely curious.
LetMyPeopleVote
(176,745 posts)I believe that Governor Mills is a far superior candidate to someone with a NAZI tattoo.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Im curious to learn more about Bernie Sanders endorsement.
LetMyPeopleVote
(176,745 posts)marmar
(79,438 posts)Could we not figure out that he was white? Why did that need to be said?
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)I admit to having an inherent bias against most white male leadership, so I was expressing my personal surprise that I would feel such enthusiasm for this guy.
Iggo
(49,756 posts)I wont leave you guessing. He had a nazi deaths head tattoo on his chest for years and just got it covered up last year after getting called out on it.
OAITW r.2.0
(31,731 posts)ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(31,731 posts)I refer it to the Paul LePage antidote.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Not familiar with the Paul LePage antidote, in case youd like to elaborate.
OAITW r.2.0
(31,731 posts)he won on simple plurality. We have a better voting solution in place, in Maine now.
Iggo
(49,756 posts)Blasphemer
(3,612 posts)betsuni
(28,890 posts)Where's the evidence of this? Saying something strongly worded into a camera a million times makes it true! Self-righteous name-calling makes it true!
Selling both sides in 2026... What's being sold is the myth that Democrats have the same economic policies of deregulation, privatization, defunding the social safety net and government, no taxes for wealthy and corporations as Republicans. Myth that FDR and New Deal were socialist and the only solution is socialism, convincing customers that classic liberal Democratic policies are socialist but abandoned by Democrats long ago because all they think about is money (as we know from coastal elite Nancy Pelosi's large swanky refrigerator full of expensive ice creams). The whole thing is embarrassing.
Iggo
(49,756 posts)He says he didnt know it was a nazi tattoo.
Heres the thing that Im never going to get over: Hes either lying about being too stupid to know it was a nazi tattoo, or hes telling the truth about being too stupid to know it was a nazi tattoo.
Either way
it doesnt matter to me what he says into a camera anymore.
MichMan
(16,874 posts)Who the hell does that?
LymphocyteLover
(9,556 posts)Just_Vote_Dem
(3,569 posts)I doubt that someone would do a complete 360 of their beliefs in a short period of time. I would guess that he's trying to split the party to weaken us, or if he's elected, he becomes a Fetterman/Manchin/Sinema. Hard NO.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Once thats over, Im confident the Democrats will unite around the candidate chosen by Maine voters. In the interview, he mentioned being recruited to run. It would be helpful to know who recruited him.
whathehell
(30,394 posts)strength, character and determination being unrelated to gender or race.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)This interview was the first time Ive heard GP speak, and I was bowled over by the way he so effectively handled questions and delivered the Democratic message In a way Ive been wanting to hear from elected Democrats. I love Jasmine Crockett, AOC and others, but know their audience is limited by the rampant, free-floating misogyny in our culture.
His detractors may take him down before he can break through, but if my intuition is correct that he isnt the monster hes being made out to be, GP has something that could appeal to a wider audience. Its easier for me to trust people who demonstrate that theyve learned and evolved from past stupid choices, than people like butter-wouldnt-melt-in-his-mouth, holier-than-thou, goody-two-shoes creeps like Mike Johnson.
At this stage of the mess were in, it would be a shame to lose Platners fearless, articulate, and yes, masculine communication skills. We need all the help we can get. All hands on deck.
mr715
(3,234 posts)You keep referencing "masculine communication skills" -- I am trying to wrap my head around that.
Do you mean able to communicate to men and boys? Do you mean his manner of communication is coded?
I want to submit, first of all, I completely agree that he is a dude and he acts like a dude. But where does this special masculine magic come from? Because he was a merc? Because he's got tattoos?
Personally I was really grossed out when Sen. Sheehy got into a broversation with then nothing Pete Hegseth over how many pushups they can do in the morning and the different types of guns they like.
So, to my issue, I don't know what "masculine" communication is any more than I know what "feminine" communication is, but I do know that Rep. Ocasio-Cortez, Rep. Crockett, and others speak as though they are, to use the ambiguous masculine characterization, have a giant dick in their rhetorical pants.
Is Rep. Raskin a feminine speaker? Does Sen. Mullin threatening to fight on the Senate floor give him street cred?
Ariadne -- I am not from Maine so do not have a vote, but my support is to the person that paid their dues. Despite being debased, Senator is still a pretty high rank to run for de novo. If he is a revolutionary, generational talent nothing is stopping this dude from building a career from the ground up.
His ambition makes me question his commitment to ideology. His judgement is questionable. His background is highly suspect (he quite wealthy). He has no track record to speak of other than what he disavows.
So run for the House. Run for dog catcher. Win. Then move up in the world.
This is an election we have to win and Sen. Collins will not be without her supporters. If you think he is uh the 'great white [male] hope' then cool, but opinions will differ.
BTW - is my communication style masculine or feminine?
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Anyone who knows me would be sore amused at the idea of me being impressed by typical pathetic displays of insecure masculinity, such as push-up contests, gun fetishes, and threats of violence on the Senate floor. Heres the thing. Way back in 1994 I was in the library doing research for an assigned paper for a college course. A book sort of dropped into my hands, and I found myself scanning its chapter headings. Each one had a quote that drew me in. One was from Paul Fussell, If we do not redefine manhood, war is inevitable. That quote set me to wondering, and Ive been fascinated with the male/female conundrum ever since.
In a nutshell (so to speak), heres my take. Our reality is shaped by language. Without language we would still be just one of many primates. By its nature, language is coded. Over time, cultural influencers (predominantly male) have segregated certain behaviors/attitudes/preferences/etc. as either masculine or feminine. Popular culture buys into the Master Narrative, and here we are. Until we evolve a bit further, were mired in the world of opposites and stuck with the absurdity of gendered categories for this or that trait.
I recognize that each individual falls somewhere on the spectrum between the extremes on each end of the prevailing masculine/feminine scale. Women generally dont have to prove were women, and fluidly express ourselves within the non-extreme ends of the spectrum. We can express as masculine or feminine without having to prove that we are still female. Unfortunately, due to the misogyny imbedded in our culture, women who go too far into the territory designated as masculine are punished, ignored, and/or not taken seriously within the patriarchal parameters of public life.
Sadly, too many men remain self-confined in the man box, constantly trying to prove their so-called manhood. Hegseth and Trump are notable current examples. Many men, thank goodness, have managed to escape their confinement and expand their bandwidth, like Jamie Raskin, Barack Obama, Sheldon Whitehouse, Robert Reich, and too many others to name.
As for GP, your assessment seems reasonable, and may be entirely accurate. In normal times I would fully agree that he should pay his dues and come up through the ranks. The fierce urgency of now suggests otherwise. Call me a silly female, but my intuition tells me he might be very useful in this current crisis. His communication skills are needed. He certainly isnt the second coming, but he may be the right person for the moment were in. The dude factor would free many men to shift away from the Frankenstein monster version of manhood displayed by Trumps goons, and be willing to align with Democratic values and ideals, leading to a more perfect union. I almost said, . . .willing to embrace, but found another word to avoid using potentially emasculating language. See how that works?
Your communication skills seem like a nice balance on the spectrum, and thats a very good thing.
mr715
(3,234 posts)There is a lot of fascinating scholarship on how our language shapes our civic behavior. Not just gender-coded language, but color coding. Heck, I'm a lefty and it is much better to be "dexterous" than "sinister".
I was strongly in support of Mr. Platner before the scandals, and that is what gives me pause. I agree with you entirely that command of the narrative, passion, and authenticity will deliver us votes. There is something enticing about a bold agenda, and you are not wrong that it has the capacity to mobilize young men in particular.
Thank you for the clarification. We will see how it turns out. Primaries are good.
I'm willing to be wrong.
~MR
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Iggo
(49,756 posts)Are you guys actually leaning into, and trying to sell, his whiteness and his masculinity? If so, that aint gonna fly. Hes been toast since the tattoo. For all I know, he may actually be too stupid to know he was sporting a nazi tattoo all those years. But thats not a selling point.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Also, Im not trying to sell anything. This is DU, and I assumed it was okay to engage in discourse because democracy, yknow? As for his whiteness and masculinity, we live in a society obsessed with race and gender. It seems silly not to consider the impact of those variables.
betsuni
(28,890 posts)The leader explains (interviewed by Trevor Noah on his podcast last year, October 9th):
"What you're talking about is identity politics. ... The issue is that Democrats have retreated from class issues, from economic issues, from the desire to take on big money to 'Oh, isn't it wonderful that we have a woman here or have a gay person here and we have a black person here and a Latino person over there."
Of course it's absurd.
waddirum
(1,004 posts)U.S. Senator is not an entry level job.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Source?
EX500rider
(12,253 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Platner#Military
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)Ill delve into this further. Now I want to know what led him to this position, and what prompted him to leave after six months.
RandySF
(82,150 posts)Sorry, nope. I see another Fetterman.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)If not, then it would be a shame to lose his singular attributes. He communicates progressive Democratic policies in a way Ive seen too few Democrats able to muster. As I remember, an awful lot of Bernie voters switched to Trump after he was eliminated.
rzemanfl
(31,257 posts)I hope that no ICE thugs get a lobster roll anywhere in her state.
After reading this thread and the threads that were linked to it therein, I find myself thinking that somewhere in Croatia a tattooist is laughing his ass off. I wonder how many U.S. GIs woke up hungover with a Nazi death head tattoo. I doubt the candidate is the only one.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts)The ICE goons should be deprived of lobster rolls. In fact, their culinary and cultural options should be devoid of any and all non-white bread influence.
Iggo
(49,756 posts)That aint woke up hungover.
rzemanfl
(31,257 posts)Croatia apparently has a lot of neo-Nazis.
LetMyPeopleVote
(176,745 posts)Democrat Graham Platner disavowed the comments in an interview with The Washington Post, saying, I dont want people to judge me off the dumbest thing I said on the internet 12 years ago.
Maine Senate candidate downplayed sexual assault concerns in deleted posts - The Washington Post
— Susan Pennington (@spennington.bsky.social) 2025-10-18T03:05:36.162Z
www.washingtonpost.com/politics/202...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/10/17/graham-platner-sexual-assault-comments-senate-midterms/
Rape is a real thing, he wrote. If youre so worried about it to buy Kevlar underwear youd think you might not get blacked out f----d up around people you arent comfortable with.
The posts, which were obtained by The Washington Post and verified using an archive of deleted Reddit comments, are part of a large cache of online messages that were deleted shortly before Platner launched his insurgent bid to defeat Republican Sen. Susan Collins in Maine. CNN first reported that the oyster farmer and Marine Corps combat veteran ridiculed rural White Mainers as actually racist and stupid in 2020 and described himself as a communist on the platform. On Friday, Platners political director resigned, saying in a resignation letter his online comments "are not words or values I can stand behind in a candidate for the United States Senate.
Platner disavowed the comments in a Friday interview with The Post that marked his first public remarks on the posts about sexual assault. He said he was at a low point in his life in 2013 after returning from a fourth deployment to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Feeling utterly lost and isolated, he said, he sought community on sometimes toxic corners of Reddit as he battled post-traumatic stress disorder that he was then not receiving treatment for......
One of Platners 2013 comments was a reply to a user who defended the need for the anti-rape shorts. Theres always that story about the girl who gets raped because she drank too much and somebody took advantage of that, that commenter wrote.
How about people just take some responsibility for themselves and not get so f----d up they wind up having sex with someone they dont mean to? Platner said in reply. Men and women, you make a choice to consume enough of a substance to lose your self control. So if you dont want to be in a [compromising] situation, act like an adult for f---s sake.
Quiet Em
(2,636 posts)might I suggest you take a look at the Maine 2nd Congressional District race? There are white guys running in that race and their Republican oppenent will be that jackass LePage. Golden, who voted for ICE funding on his way out the door, is retiring, and I'd love to keep that House seat filled with a Democrat.
ariadne0614
(2,153 posts). . .although Im glad to support progressive white men with excellent messaging skills. Thanks for the information.
LetMyPeopleVote
(176,745 posts)Boo1
(231 posts)Does not need saving. They certainly don't need it from a guy with a nazi tattoo.



