The DOW is DOWN 849.00

[spanone]

Someone tell him to SHUT THE FUCK UP.

[MineralMan]

1. Cue the "DOW doesn't matter" crowd.

But, it does matter. It's a thermometer. I have zero investments in the stock market, but I watch the DJIA numbers daily. The DJIA takes the country's temperature constantly.

And it's not liking this whole Trumpery about Denmark, Greenland, ICE and other stuff.

Take that for what it's worth.

[fujiyamasan]

5. I think the S&P is a better index now

Either way, the markets are down and are not reacting positively to all of this nonsense.

[iemanja]

28. It is a more comprehensive index

And it’s down -143, which is a lot.

[fujiyamasan]

35. S&p500 Down 2.04% today

To put it in perspective, it lost ~10% of its value last year between April 2nd and April….

Today’s sell off may just be the start, if Trump continues on with what he’s doing….

Hopefully TACO

[mr715]

6. Isn't it way more volatile now? Like for the last 20 years.

More apps with more people buying and selling small quantities add up? I don't know how it works.

[TBF]

11. No not really -

The wealthiest 10% of Americans own 93% of stocks even with market participation at a record high, and three distinct firms control about 3/4 of the equities market. The big players like stability, and Trump is a loose cannon.

[Coventina]

9. It matters to those of us who were FORCED to depend on it for retirement.

The 401K scam instead of pensions.

[MichMan]

36. My IRA is worth substantially more than I ever would have received as a pension

Pensions were great for those who spent a couple decades or more working for the same employer. The downside is that once you have a certain amount of years of service in, it becomes very hard to walk away to take a better opportunity.

For those of us who moved from one employer to another every few years as better and better opportunities became available, a 401k is a much better option.

[edhopper]

10. The Dow is not the economy

but it does matter. So far economic indicators have been much worse than the traders have reacted to. But a big loss in the market can have a magnifying effect on an already troubled economy.

[OldBaldy1701E]

25. Well... not to someone as poor as I am.

But, it can have merit for those who play that game, I suppose.

[riversedge]

2. Mostly red lines going down at stock market---a few green going up........

No, it is not my watchlist--as I have none--


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[SunSeeker]

27. The only stock I see going up is gold and oil. nt

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[C_U_L8R]

3. Trump is serving up turd tacos.

Can the Davos poobahs just take him to a back room and insert some sense in him… kinda like ice does.

[orangecrush]

4. "Best stock market"

[highplainsdem]

7. From the Lincoln Project:

Red wave!!

— The Lincoln Project (@lincolnproject.us) 2026-01-20T19:10:07.318642613Z

[Coventina]

8. Those of us who were FORCED into the stock market thru 401Ks will suffer

That is our retirement.

[TheProle]

13. Every company I've ever worked out had an opt-in 401k.

Who forced you?

[Coventina]

16. The two financial companies I worked for:

Discover Card

American Express

There was no opt out at either.

[MichMan]

39. I never saw a 401k that forced investors 100% into stocks

Weren't there other options available to choose from?

[Coventina]

41. we could choose not to participate at all, but it wouldn't result in higher take home. n/t

[Scrivener7]

42. The devaluation of the dollar will hurt all of us too, even those who are not in stocks.

[Johonny]

12. I assume Bessent all shorted last week

They letting the moron crash the market with tariff talks knowing the Supreme Court about to end that shit. Up or down, insiders make the money. We lose.

[Johnny2X2X]

14. Well, I get my 401K bonus deposited into my account in a few days

So this could help me.

It's like $5500 of the matching that goes in once a year in January. This year it goes in this Friday or next Monday. So buy low, this blows over, and it goes back up.

[Brother Buzz]

15. The billionaire fat cats who paid to play are making a killing

Just saying

[spanone]

17. HE'S STILL TALKING -904

[malaise]

18. −905.55 Now

[spanone]

19. Hey! Doesn't this man have a job?

[malaise]

20. The fawning media hacks are shameless

Hard to watch this crap

[Maru Kitteh]

21. That explains a lot.

[spanone]

22. He just now quit talking....nearly TWO HOURS.

[TBF]

23. He needs a nap before he begins his rage posting for the evening. nt

[obamanut2012]

24. Bond market is cratering

[Aussie105]

26. I follow the Australian ASX200 closely.

It's heading down too.

Not in shares myself, but my retirement piggy bank relies on it.

The downturn may be global.

I'm predicting a dismal few months ahead.

Both in the stock markets and the static Trump is creating in normal peoples' lives.

[JMCKUSICK]

29. Unfortunately, the market is less than 600 points off its all time high.

I wish business was ahead of the curve on Trump, but this really shows how in the bag they are for him.

If Biden had proposed attacking Greenland or removing fed governors etc, the market would let him know in no uncertain terms who's in charge, oligarchs. Proven ever single day by their inaction today.

[IronLionZion]

32. Some of those oligarchs might be interested in the minerals and metals in Greenland

and are a key part of the problem.

[JMCKUSICK]

34. Right, but at the expense of blowing up an 80 year old world order?

Do they really forget the greatest detriment to befall any and all oligarchs?

He fell from a window.
He died of a hunger strike.
He was poisoned.

Of course they all think they're special.

[SheltieLover]

30. Quiet ruskie piggy

[Fil1957]

31. If the stock market keeps falling, it could save our country. A falling stock market seems to be the only thing that

restrains Trump.

[Emile]

33. Danish lawmaker told Trump to fuck off!

[MichMan]

37. Where is the DOW now compared to 1 year ago?

It was 44,000 on 1/21/25. People who have retirement funds in the stock market are still way ahead for the last year.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EDJI/history/

[SunSeeker]

38. When Biden took office it was 31,188.38. Biden saved my retirement fund.

Trump has cost me a lot of money in higher Healthcare and grocery prices. My healthcare premiums went up 40% (an increase of over $400 PER MONTH) on January 1. That has totally wiped out any of the small gains in my retirement account over the last year.

I am not "way ahead for the last year," MichMan, for fuck's sake.

[edhopper]

43. Anyone not seeing we are in for an epic collapse

is not paying attention to all the economic indicators.
80% of the current run up is an AI bubble.

[ColoringFool]

40. Stephen Goebbels Is Telling DJT The Dow Is At Record Highs.