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(150,879 posts)But, it does matter. It's a thermometer. I have zero investments in the stock market, but I watch the DJIA numbers daily. The DJIA takes the country's temperature constantly.
And it's not liking this whole Trumpery about Denmark, Greenland, ICE and other stuff.
Take that for what it's worth.
fujiyamasan
(1,435 posts)Either way, the markets are down and are not reacting positively to all of this nonsense.
iemanja
(57,624 posts)And its down -143, which is a lot.
fujiyamasan
(1,435 posts)To put it in perspective, it lost ~10% of its value last year between April 2nd and April
.
Todays sell off may just be the start, if Trump continues on with what hes doing
.
Hopefully TACO
mr715
(3,246 posts)More apps with more people buying and selling small quantities add up? I don't know how it works.
The wealthiest 10% of Americans own 93% of stocks even with market participation at a record high, and three distinct firms control about 3/4 of the equities market. The big players like stability, and Trump is a loose cannon.
Coventina
(29,442 posts)The 401K scam instead of pensions.
MichMan
(16,874 posts)Pensions were great for those who spent a couple decades or more working for the same employer. The downside is that once you have a certain amount of years of service in, it becomes very hard to walk away to take a better opportunity.
For those of us who moved from one employer to another every few years as better and better opportunities became available, a 401k is a much better option.
edhopper
(37,171 posts)but it does matter. So far economic indicators have been much worse than the traders have reacted to. But a big loss in the market can have a magnifying effect on an already troubled economy.
OldBaldy1701E
(10,638 posts)But, it can have merit for those who play that game, I suppose.
riversedge
(80,040 posts)No, it is not my watchlist--as I have none--
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SunSeeker
(57,885 posts)Last edited Tue Jan 20, 2026, 10:40 PM - Edit history (1)
C_U_L8R
(49,117 posts)Can the Davos poobahs just take him to a back room and insert some sense in him kinda like ice does.
orangecrush
(29,363 posts)highplainsdem
(60,836 posts)Coventina
(29,442 posts)That is our retirement.
TheProle
(3,940 posts)Who forced you?
Coventina
(29,442 posts)Discover Card
American Express
There was no opt out at either.
MichMan
(16,874 posts)Weren't there other options available to choose from?
Coventina
(29,442 posts)Scrivener7
(58,883 posts)Johonny
(25,752 posts)They letting the moron crash the market with tariff talks knowing the Supreme Court about to end that shit. Up or down, insiders make the money. We lose.
Johnny2X2X
(23,826 posts)So this could help me.
It's like $5500 of the matching that goes in once a year in January. This year it goes in this Friday or next Monday. So buy low, this blows over, and it goes back up.
Brother Buzz
(39,702 posts)Just saying
spanone
(141,217 posts)malaise
(294,171 posts)spanone
(141,217 posts)malaise
(294,171 posts)Hard to watch this crap
Maru Kitteh
(31,392 posts)spanone
(141,217 posts)TBF
(35,987 posts)obamanut2012
(29,246 posts)Aussie105
(7,722 posts)It's heading down too.
Not in shares myself, but my retirement piggy bank relies on it.
The downturn may be global.
I'm predicting a dismal few months ahead.
Both in the stock markets and the static Trump is creating in normal peoples' lives.
JMCKUSICK
(5,524 posts)I wish business was ahead of the curve on Trump, but this really shows how in the bag they are for him.
If Biden had proposed attacking Greenland or removing fed governors etc, the market would let him know in no uncertain terms who's in charge, oligarchs. Proven ever single day by their inaction today.
IronLionZion
(50,999 posts)and are a key part of the problem.
JMCKUSICK
(5,524 posts)Do they really forget the greatest detriment to befall any and all oligarchs?
He fell from a window.
He died of a hunger strike.
He was poisoned.
Of course they all think they're special.
SheltieLover
(78,258 posts)Fil1957
(625 posts)restrains Trump.
Emile
(41,390 posts)MichMan
(16,874 posts)It was 44,000 on 1/21/25. People who have retirement funds in the stock market are still way ahead for the last year.
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EDJI/history/
SunSeeker
(57,885 posts)Trump has cost me a lot of money in higher Healthcare and grocery prices. My healthcare premiums went up 40% (an increase of over $400 PER MONTH) on January 1. That has totally wiped out any of the small gains in my retirement account over the last year.
I am not "way ahead for the last year," MichMan, for fuck's sake.
edhopper
(37,171 posts)is not paying attention to all the economic indicators.
80% of the current run up is an AI bubble.
