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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe President of the United States is currently standing on a stage
in front of a gathering of the world's richest people, rambling almost incoherently about how they should give Greenland to him.
That's all he wants. Just an entire country. Just give it to him. "A piece of ice. Cold and poorly located ... It's a very small ask." (ACTUAL QUOTE.)
The good news is that he says he's not going to take it by force, even though he could take it easily, and by the way, he's building battleships which will be 100 times more powerful than the big beautiful battleships that you saw in World War II.
So he just wants the world to give Greenland to him. He needs it. Just give it to him. Also, Canada. He's got big plans for Canada.
Scrivener7
(58,883 posts)niyad
(130,475 posts)tinrobot
(11,991 posts)Safe as Milk
(220 posts)Texin
(2,838 posts)Zorro
(18,437 posts)Hugin
(37,622 posts)There is precedent!
calimary
(89,294 posts)With LOTS AND LOTS of burning hot lava!
It sure would help him get ready for Hell.
wolfie001
(7,361 posts)It took me a few minutes.
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Hugin
(37,622 posts)Ill take a ten x fourteen glossy on black velvet.
(Oh, nice. I just realized that the famous source art work is a WATERCOLOR! Very subtle. Waterloo!
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wolfie001
(7,361 posts)tRUMP is having his Waterloo.
Bev54
(13,326 posts)very very grateful that we are Canadians and not Americans.
orangecrush
(29,363 posts)3auld6phart
(1,680 posts)Do we want anything to do wit with yourChristo Faciscist filth.we have our own share of dummies.
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Intractable
(1,755 posts)Johonny
(25,752 posts)American president says something nuts. American president says another thing completely nuts. WTF this guy is batshit crazy. Call for the padded cell. Okay, we're out of here.
DET
(2,409 posts)The man is batshit crazy.
IcyPeas
(25,152 posts)0rganism
(25,527 posts)What a goddam jackass. Will it never shut up?
returnee
(870 posts)Greenland is an ice-land.
People seeking asylum come from asylums.
He confuses meanings.
dalton99a
(92,843 posts)AllyCat
(18,655 posts)Last year to $800 yesterday. One month supply.
He lies about everything. He literally makes things up in his head. None of what he says is true. Nothing.
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Trump has (among other things) made me start to consider the multiverse (an outlandish theory I used to think)..
Surely it would be either extraordinarily bad luck or an indictment of human nature for this to be the sole reality - factory farms, ventilation shutdown, mass extinction, human overpopulation, resource depletion, deforestation, climate change, mass incarceration, holocaust, war, slavery, rape, obscene levels of inequality, climate change, religion over science, Trump..
I feel judged ;-/..like this is the final clear indictment of this entire reality.
Edit: Or a pointless and moronic simulation using Willow. As lame and pointless as those llms. I saw an example this very morning. If that is their ai (morse, lights, creeps..just daft), zkp whatever, it has reinforces my determination to file complaints offline (to avoid more scams and pile ons). But without sparing any creeps (2011-the present/going forward) nor inadvertently inflicting collateral damage on randoms or anyone decent.
I move slow so I do not break things. But regardless nothing has changed. Today more than ever I consider this atrociously lame as science, exploitative, pointless and a burden on actually good scientists/doctors.
I have had to diy my mental health after my moms demise with medical mj and modafinil and both are in a grey area and so I will go to legitimate regulators etc as soon as I can to file complaints and get these things shut down and reported. In particular I would avoid anyone locally whom I came across in 2014-male or female. But it has all been bad with only a few bright spots. This is a drain on my resources.
I was a bit disoriented between 2011-now. Information (even if gleaned in this inelegant way) changes the brain.
This continues to look like stuff I would never ever sign up for-shoddy, exploitative, snoopy and pointless and I am going to file complaints about the use of my street, home and my own status as an extremely annoyed by now defacto research subject. I dont like second rate science.
I cannot see someone like Kirsten Stade, Paul Ehrlich, William Rees, Madhav Gadgil or even Henrik Mouritsen, Peter Hore, Tejas Thackeray, Bittu Sahgal, Ryan Williams, Yan Lecun, Rollo Carpenter, Timnit Gebru/DAIR, Emily Bender, Kevin Compton, Quentin Stout, Chet Miller, Clayton Dalton, Adam Becker, Rob Phillips, Steve Chu (he is terrifying but if someone like that was involved wielding strict oversight I would trust the science more), Josh Silberg, Dr Fauci, Francis Collins, scientists or doctors I knew or know getting involved in this. Those are scientists or science communicators, conservationists I would trust. I consider them safe. If these foul, large things must exist someone who is not the nightmarish crowd I list must..do something. I plan to abort it where it involved or involves me.
It looks more like the handiwork of the type of corporate Ai/data/VR/metaverse/mixed reality/simulation theory/ shill I would not allow within a 100 yards of my home irl and would block online. I am guessing quantum mysticism will be the next round of bs.
People of this type to be clear (whom I at least consider frauds, yimbies, charlatans or at least somehow too vaguely shady to trust ):
Yimby: Brian Verelli
A whiff of 3-bodys alien type methods/religiosity/enthusiasm from The Discovery Institute type science influencers shilling NFTs and crypto: Sabine Hossenfelder, Bobby Azarian, Melvin Vopson, Robert Lanza, Michael Levine.
Sleazy surveillance/lame social engineering peddling snoops: Alex Pentland, Ben Waber, most of Google/Facebook/Palantir/Musk Inc/Microsoft/Zuckerberg/Bill Gates/Alex Karp/Shyam Sankar/Sundar Pichai/Satya Nadella.
Sleazy, creepy, small business shills: Ragy Thomas, Vincent Palathingal, Chamath Palihapitiya, Balaji Srinivasan, Shalab Kumar, Suhail Doshi, Mitesh Bohra. In order to check this creepy Panopticon of deregulation run by generally creepy and mediocre men exploiting defense contracting and deregulation, complaints have to be filed suing for RTI and bringing back real regulation. In a post Roe world, you have to be really disingenuous to fail to get this.
Creepy philanthropists: Reid Hoffman/ Peter Thiel/Clare Wu
Generally somehow objectionable: anyone from the Santa Fe Institute, Baylor (probably Intelligent Design/Creationism shills).
Edtech peddler: Sebastian Thrun
Fraudster: Elizabeth Holmes
Google/Stanford types/MIT Media Lab or at the very least generally annoying: Demi Hassabis, Neri Oxman, Ed Boyden (I dont care how often he leers out of the pages of Quanta Magazine-he may be a legit scientist unlike most of this dubious crowd but he took money from the MIT Media Lab), Joy Buolamwini (MIT Media Lab and generally annoying), Fei Fei Li, Peter Norvig, Andy Ng, 100 years of bs Ai, Wu-Tsai, Hai, Christopher Manning, Jim Landay.
(outside the natural sciences and maybe with one or two other exceptions, with the exception of Eyal Ophir, Peter Eastman, Paul Ehrlich and Rodolfo Adirzo, a few other pis or hr etc), most everyone associated with Stanford comes off as generally altogether shady, sleazy, suspect and awful and usually with a shitty company in tow.
It is why this type seems to not get that the NIH postdoc isnt a low rent, gig job. Something those creeps at Google etc are too fatuous and crass to get.
As for these llms or the generally awful patterns an irate human eye notices in combination with how these guys think, they will next claim that mental disorders can be detected in human interaction with digital media and content. Absolute charlatanry. Thesd methods should be banned in medicine on the threat of criminal malpractice and misconduct allegations. Only that will work.
Sobriety peddlers (and probably shills for clarity/vr and other bs) and Reefer Madness bullsitters in the area of mental health: Thomas Insel, Nina Vasan, Smita Das, Keith Humphreys.
Bullshit jobs (lie detectors/emotion ai): Rosalind Picard (Affectiva/SmartEye, wanted to rehabilitate Epstein. What is wrong with MIT? No wonder they drove poor Aaron Schwartz to suicide); Aaron Elkins (lie detector).
Random crazies: Max Tegmark, Nick Bostrom, Ray Kurzweil, Marc Andreessen, RFK jr or Maha.
Me Too creeps: Kanury S Rao, Stephen A Morse, Lawrence Krauss, Neil Degrasse Tyson, Padmanabhan Predeep, Walter Lewin, Andy Rubin, Amit Singhal and so many more.
Bullshit tech critics/press: Tristan Harris, Cory Doctorow, EFF, Frances Haugen, creepy traffic snarling attention seeking artist, Jonathan Hadit, Derek Thompson, Kevin Roose.
Uncategorised and objectionable: Blippi, Veritasium, Jessica Krause, Stepfanie Tyler, that honey badger person (who strikes me as the type of person these people would consider almost as good as David Attenborough/Chris Packham/Jane Goodall/Dian Fossey. He is not. They are cool. He is on YouTube).
I cant possibly list every human everywhere I object to. That is too many people. But this is a sample. I am seriously filing complaints.
It is mostly Americans, but I tend to agree with the always cool Andy Nikiforuk that most problems are caused by stupidity which is evenly found in all groups:
https://thetyee.ca/Culture/2025/07/25/Triumph-of-Stupidity/
I was used to thinking of stupidity (mostly just my own) in terms of speed and aptitude for biology, physics, chemistry. Now for over 15 years, I have seen a mind boggling kind of stupidity I couldnt aspire to. It is almost entirely coming from the private sector and defense contracting.
I have been making do with trickle down infonomics and Gift of Fear strategies absent any well-regulated system of trust. I am bloody sick of it..
I do try to be a nice person (I dont go yelling at service industry workers, students etc, but this is rubbish at the top).
I am exasperated by this lousy gig economy/fake or rubbish ai/gaming/physical ai/hyperscale
You should at least have the sense to pick your victims for scams better than this..yeesh.
I have my own work to do/life to live and I dont want to encourage this pointless drivel.
Lina Khan was a step in the right directions. Exploitative data mining hinting it security/cryptography etc with no explanations is bothersome.
Criminal malpractice, misconduct and harassment allegations for extortionate exploitation and violations of property and civil rights alone will bring sanity back. One person is already dead in spite of having had an excellent onc-my mom. This must end withour more influencers/sleuths/white hats etc getting away with stalking, harassment, doxxing and privacy violations from inside and outside the system.
I have no information and so little say in this. It is why I provided this extensive list so these sycophantic and bullying systems and attention seeking influencers etc get that it is not neuroses. Even piddly scientists like yours truly do not necessarily buy that someone is awesome and trustworthy just because they have money or work at some flashy, tacky school full of social climbing opportunists.
This has been a huge strain on me. I knew from the moment I first saw it 15 or so years ago that it is something tacky to avoid..too mixed a crowd and the types of people who are..there is no nice way to put..these desperate, opportunistic humans. I am disorganized and distrait and lagging in my own entirely respectable, straightforward work and took and instant and thorough dislike to this drivel and nothing has happened to change that view.
The point of not using Google etcs methods is that nothing is inevitable their way. I would avoid that present Trump admin crowd, but at some point-4-5 whatever years later when no bullshit beaglegate!!! etc is likely to be pushed, I would give very negative feedback saying..stop aggressively shilling useless robots or rubbish tech trend of the day leeching away resources from people like me who are not going to ever leave their own chosen private path to engage with some blatantly disingenuous conversation. Never met any people before or what?
You cant go around stereotyping some random person who is gloomy because they find that Google crowd annoying as a depressive. It has nothing to do with stigma. Disliking random drivel from the private sector is not a mental illness and then taking people hostage from inside the system over marijuana use while shielding all sorts of creeps..It..it is not even evil. Its as if as Nikiforuk said in another piece, these guys really see humans as legos to shuffle around.
I am not interested in your stupid creepy ai and simulations. Imagine if I went around doing this. Just going and taking data from some CS creeps comp or confusing them with random chaos. It is not entertainment hour.
Altogether awkward and disgraceful. Stay in your creep lanes. It is not anything like a vaccine. Total hucksters. I dont like talking or engaging. There is nothing to say except yeah still creepy and shady and dont try to blame the public sector or the old NIH or call any rare decent people who try to clean rot up pedo guys etc as that jerk Musk would.
I dont like what I have seen at all and I am filing complaints the day I have solid info. It is not my labs or colleagues and doctors or anyone I would know. It is the creeps and they need to go annoy just about anyone else.
I am just okay now and the more I get it the less impressed i am. That this one shit field is sucking everything up its arse like that monster in Nope.
0000F5D7 (my ID as the creeps in the system must know; I am an anonymous complainant. I have to go offline to work).
hannah
(414 posts)He is droning on and on. Somebody, make it stop!
I love it! More! More!
Since the founders design for preventing dictators has failed, this is the absolute best way for the world to see what we are up against.
Wicked Blue
(8,722 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(22,458 posts)I could take it by force, because when youre a star, they let you do it, but I wont. Instead, I will make the greatest deal like never before, and you can stop selling off your Treasury bonds
Walleye
(44,055 posts)dalton99a
(92,843 posts)Walleye
(44,055 posts)Thats mental illness
OGBuzz
(91 posts)I went to the pharmacy to pick up my $100 dollar monthly prescription and walked away with $1000 plus the meds.
ananda
(34,598 posts)I think it's $15 for 90 days.
In Maga math, that means I will save $1,485.
ProfessorGAC
(76,132 posts)...and tried to use magic math to show that this 800% or 1,000% nonsense somehow made sense.
He's either the ultimate sycophant or just as dumb as his boss.
vapor2
(4,119 posts)Phoenix61
(18,769 posts)In case there were any doubts about him being bat shit crazy. I dont think rich people want a crazy person in a position to screw with the markets.
IcyPeas
(25,152 posts)Ray Bruns
(6,100 posts)The Madcap
(1,824 posts)To having to live in Trumpland.
EarlG
(23,490 posts)But the more I see him now, the sadder and weaker he looks. He's still spouting most of the same crazy shit that he's always spouted, but there's an extra edge of lunacy to it now.
The worst thing for him though is that he's lost his salesman's energy and brashness. When he had that, he could hypnotize an audience -- he could say almost anything he wanted and people just got this overall impression of strength and confidence. But without it he sounds more like someone rambling to themselves in a corner at the nursing home.
highplainsdem
(60,836 posts)Dulcinea
(9,851 posts)THIS! That's all he had going for him. Now he's sliding into dementia, insanity, or whatever. Time to take Grandpa's phone away.
Katinfl
(671 posts)WiVoter
(1,573 posts)Katinfl
(671 posts)They are getting a front row seat to his dementia. How can they cave to his mans whims? You have to stand up to a bully, thats all. Gavin Newsom has it exactly right .pray they take him at his word.
Lovie777
(22,267 posts)has the nuclear codes.
Torchlight
(6,514 posts)That's all I can think of.
rampartd
(4,240 posts)but the parker bros president gets his "smarter than the generals" insight from a risk board.
BH liberal
(128 posts)in front of the whole world! The rest of the nations on this planet won't have a hair on their asses if they don't call for a boycott on everything American at this point. And who could blame them!
NJCher
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I and many others on this board have let the world know we want no part of this and that we strenuously but peacefully object.
No we here.
littlemissmartypants
(32,803 posts)Grim Chieftain
(1,414 posts)Not only does it make him look bad, it makes the US look pathetic that we would allow this to happen - and to continue.
It's no longer just about his sanity, it's about ours too.
BH liberal
(128 posts)It's beyond the pale...
forget he is a compulsive liar.
littlemissmartypants
(32,803 posts)Another problem he has further down his anatomy.
Chiefsfan
(1 post)Why did the people in the audience stand up and clap for the orange baby? They should of sat in silence!!!
BooScout
(10,409 posts)...were from the American delegation....ten people tops.
Biophilic
(6,473 posts)Kid Berwyn
(23,641 posts)Shills. Plants. Confederates. Stooges. Republicans. Total shit stains.
KS Toronado
(23,382 posts)And welcome to DU.

bucolic_frolic
(54,490 posts)They were forewarned, and he wasn't far off the mark!
Botany
(76,697 posts)Trump is like drinking 1/2 a gallon of unpasteurized apple cider, eating a bran muffin, and then
getting into a car in a traffic jam on a freeway with no exists for miles. The results will not be
pretty.
NJCher
(42,756 posts)This recipe is not from personal expo.
lastlib
(27,790 posts)Me, I'd rather drink the prep than listen to The Bastard.
Every time I hear him speak, I think, "God, WHY didn't Fred let it run down his leg??"
Botany
(76,697 posts)Much better now.
OGBuzz
(91 posts)How the hell was this lunatic ever elected? Twice!
It was the same b.s. yesterday from the White House press room. He pulls numbers and statistics out of his ass and no one dares challenge him to his face.
IbogaProject
(5,698 posts)His voters are about 1/3 of the eledgible voters but what put it over the top are non-voters and those who don't register l to "stay off the jury rolls".
mahina
(20,521 posts)Voter suppresion
IbogaProject
(5,698 posts)They can only really shift close elections
i have posted the following quote many times before and it never grows old:
As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. h l mencken.
this quote explains how this lunatic was elected
.TWICE!
obamanut2012
(29,246 posts)MiHale
(12,758 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(15,197 posts)walkingman
(10,498 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(133,928 posts)Just like a whining toddler.
poozwah
(399 posts)lets say denmark gives us greenland and neville rubio comes back from denmark with the paperwork showing us this gift. will we have peace in our time? will adon trumpler stop with greenland? will he then sign a nonaggression pact with putlenin? will we invade canada and mexico? have we seen this shit before?
Mr.Bee
(1,721 posts)rant yesterday about how he 'fixed' this nation
from the mess Biden had made, how everything is affordable
in his fantasy, no wonder he wants to take on more countries to
make great again!
a big NT
Joinfortmill
(20,510 posts)Congress better get off their ass soon, before the oligarchs own everything. Russia 2.0.
As for the rest of us, we need to do more. We need a complete moratorium on all non essential workers and spending for a week. I'm not kidding. Send these rich bastards a message.
Orrex
(66,810 posts)Ilsa
(64,026 posts)
OMG! This is great. If only they would just laugh their asses off about every word, he would stroke out with rage, Die and THEN, only THEN we can start to make ourselves better with hope of great one day.
They could ALL end his shit today, just freaking 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Then watch 😠😖😡🌚💥🌑 and enjoy. 😊😃😀
Ilsa
(64,026 posts)Traildogbob
(12,726 posts)Way too much Class, not something MurKKKa has anymore.
Just gold plated assery. 35 percent of the Nation.
Vinca
(53,555 posts)representing us on the world stage is something out of a movie script. He was in full-blown crazytown mode.
Jersey Devil
(10,782 posts)He doesn't like some of our newer battleships because they are not "aesthetically" pleasing, wants them to look menacing and "beautiful".
whathehell
(30,394 posts)maybe he can now run one for Battleships.
Farmer-Rick
(12,533 posts)Threatening filthy-rich powerful people from all over the world to just handover a country populated by over 53,000 people (never asking the 53,000 people who in all actually own it.) is brought to you by capitalism.
It's the ever soul crushing grinder behind the scenes in modern nation-wide disputes.
Enjoy the inevitable end stages of capitalism. It will get worse.
And thank the idiotic economists who told you "free" trade was a good thing. Some of them even got Nobel awards for lying to you.
vanessa_ca
(647 posts)Sancho
(9,186 posts)...call it "Iceland" and shove his fat ass out to sea???
Just asking?
MustLoveBeagles
(15,197 posts)k55f5r
(510 posts)"Have a nice trip, Grandpa."
lastlib
(27,790 posts)name some iceberg "Greenland"--"sure, don, you can have 'Greenland'--but you have to come and personally take possession....."
allegorical oracle
(6,323 posts)Greenland to eventually get Canada. A map rendering he produced a couple days ago showed the U.S. flag emblazoned over Greenland, Canada, and all of the U.S.
dlk
(13,183 posts)Remember who knowingly and willingly did this to America, and the world.
Baitball Blogger
(51,896 posts)It sounds like he thinks he's standing around a pool table, squeeging the tip of his pool stick while he's bravadoing with his buds.
NBachers
(19,281 posts)DFW
(59,877 posts)It was basically the French equivalent of WTF??
turbinetree
(27,208 posts)country..........not once but twice and why you own this shit show................JFC
PatrickforB
(15,383 posts)and let him know how truly valued he is as our Pwesident. Gosh, he's been the best champion of Greenland that ever was! And now, Donald, here's a nice new SHINY MAP of Greenland, and you can be King!!!
This guy has the emotional range of a six year old bully on the fricking playground. Geez.
Trump cannot be trusted. He will try to take Greenland by force if he so chooses.
What a fucking idiot.
orangecrush
(29,363 posts)oldinmtdem92
(123 posts)but i think you are right gonna get worse before it ends.
Deep State Witch
(12,654 posts)Like in vaudeville.

Metro135
(403 posts)It's all he wants. It will bring us "peace in our time."
Ilsa
(64,026 posts)along so well.
Maybe Ivy League uni's and other "prestigious" universities should have a general knowledge exit test. The general voting public can't seem to prioritize objectives or see beyond his strident, emotional rhetoric and racism, and it seems like we elect a lot of ivy league presidents.
hadEnuf
(3,564 posts)He's clearly a rambling lunatic and an evil bastard. We know you could care less about the evil part, but the lunatic part is making you look even nuttier than he is by keeping him in there.
Nasruddin
(1,205 posts)Remember, he lies like he breathes - with every breath.
Like Mary McCarthy said about Lillian Hellman, everything he says is a lie, including and and the.
GreenWave
(12,464 posts)flvegan
(65,975 posts)patphil
(8,838 posts)You name it, he's fucked it up.
But his ambitions go far beyond the United States. He believes he can be ruler of the world. 1.5 trillion dollar "defense" budget projected for 2026! That's about 600 billion more than our current defense budget.
Of course we now have a Department of War, not Defense.
That tells you a lot about what his plans are.
The world is hearing a strong echo of Hitler in the words of Trump.
My only hope is that his health fails before he can take us farther down that dark path of destruction.
Something to remember is that the 600 billion more for the Department of War came from all of the programs he cut or trashed altogether. If the 2026 election doesn't put on the brakes, we're going to see even worse devastation both here and abroad in 2027.
hamsterjill
(17,191 posts)He lies.
He is only backing away from the use of force because other countries have stepped up to defy his sorry ass. He is a fucking crazy idiot. There is no telling what he may say today, and then do tomorrow.
EnergizedLib
(2,982 posts)How do you come up with anything more ridiculous?
Initech
(107,981 posts)
JoseBalow
(9,299 posts)yobrault1
(201 posts)middle finger for him.
LudwigPastorius
(14,383 posts)I watched some of Trump's press conference the other day, and I'm all stocked up on crazy here.
Cha
(317,721 posts)Greenland and Canada do NOT Want to be owned by the Rapist, Mass Homicidal Maniac inside the WH.
The Idiot is showing the World What We Patriots are up Against in the USA
TY
sakabatou
(45,933 posts)are considering using Article 5 on the US. I know they absolutely will should the US try to invade Greenland.
Evolve Dammit
(21,611 posts)MadameButterfly
(3,865 posts)or was that just your logical conclusion?
malaise
(294,171 posts)llmart
(17,460 posts)and tell me he isn't doped up on something.
VMA131Marine
(5,199 posts)more wind turbines in view of his golf courses.
Bastard!
popsdenver
(1,874 posts)and now is expecting a Nobel peace prize for resolving the "War" between the U.S. and Greenland........LOL
ShazzieB
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His right shoulder was noticeably lower than his left, causing him to lean at an odd angle, and he seemed to be gripping the lectern (or whatever it was) for dear life, presumably to keep from falling over. His voice was raspy, his articulation was mushy, and he seemed to push the words out with a noticeable effort, as he rambled incoherently.
He's obviously in no shape to run a corner hot dog stand, much less the government of a major nation. Every public appearance he makes is more pathetic than the last one. It's embarrassing, shocking, and outrageous that he's being allowed to continue in office in his condition. Watching him makes me want to scream, "SOMEBODY, PLEASE DO SOMETHING ALREADY!!!!! 😱
C Moon
(13,541 posts)CitizenVain
(4 posts)I guess American Presidents don't usually comment directly on trade issues at DAVOS but dang....
This is embarrassing; we're a country under duress; and I am ashamed...
