Ben Affleck and Matt Damon know something

[graham4anything]

Ben makes a movie
Ben wants an Oscar
Seat opens in Mass
Ben yaps alot as does his BFF Matt
Put your money where your mouth is
Ben chickens out, $$$ and Oscars mean more to Ben
Shit, publicity is going to screw my chances, look what happened to Clint
Matt opens his trap
Insults the President at just this time
Ben don't win Oscar
Ben blames the media and continues to whine

Thanks Ben. Thanks Matt. Thanks John.

choice
shit or get off the can
put up or shut up
oh wait, gotta movie to publicize
screw you Ben and Matt.
gonna use my money to see Lincoln again and not Matts new one

Spielberg is going to win the Oscar
Tony is going to win the screenplay
Matt's gonna go home with Ben empty handed

btw, why was Argo allowed to run pre-electoin
But the Binladen movie had to be delayed
The rightwing must have liked the fact that Argo reminded people of Jimmy Carter
(I love Jimmy Carter btw) but they hope the message people got was a bad image
Binladen on the other hand reminded people of how great our President was as compared to their president.

oh, that is why Argo was allowed to run.

Al Franken did the grunt work, the rote work. Al Franken worked his ass off and he is allowed to speak his mind.
Shut the 'uck up Ben and Matt. When push came to shove, you took the ball and the money

feel free to disagree.

[Rex]

1. It could be possible they are trying for

political pariah status, maybe a Ralph Nader level infamy among those in the know.

OTOH; Al Franken is a friken genius and Jimmy Carter is the most unfairly dogged POTUS I've ever seen.

I bet Ben is doing PR for an Oscar run.

[graham4anything]

3. Clint Eastwood's dead pan performance art routine out of the Nichols/May 1950s was beautiful

It had me roaring in the aisles

Clint say what you will, he gave up a couple of years and served in public office as Mayor of Carmel.

and Clint sided with us during the Super Bowl with the half time in America.

He earned the right to talk

Ben and Matt, like Bill Bradley, like Russ Feingold whined and whined and took the ball and left the arena. No better than Jim DeMint. or the other quitters.

If you are not in it, how can you win it?(to paraphrase the lotto in NY slogan)

as the song goes
"Some play to win, some play to lose, goodtime Charlie's got the blues"-Danny O'Keefe (c)

winners win
losers whine
too much whine and one gets drunk from the whine
but it makes a great country cry on my bar stool song like

Jim Ed Brown
Pop-a-top

[Rex]

8. It is so strange that Clint can direct some great movies

and still have no idea he was bombing horribly on national television with the chair skit. After a while I started feeling sorry for him.

[graham4anything]

9. repubs don't get irony/satire/farce/performance art. Clint did a funny skit

He did more for the democratic cause than any other republican this year

Bob Newhart did this along with May/Nichols in the 1950s/1960s.
Bill Cosby does something like this at times too.

and it went overtime and the Mittman forgot to put his weepy video on because of it


President Obama already had the election clinched 4 years ago, so it mattered little

only the debbie downers, sad sams, cuttenrunners and republicans thought it was even close.
But it never was.
So it was fun to watch Clint. That was the only part of the repub. convention I watched.


it showed what a bad manager/CEO Mitt would be.(so it was a negative)


The 1/2 time in America ad was much better. Reminded people of how Great our President was, saving the automobile industry(it was a positive)

[Rex]

19. And now one of RMoneys boys says

dad never wanted to be POTUS...sigh...can these folks EVER just tell the truth? Clint did a HUGE favor for the democratic party, even if he did not mean to.

That was like a pre-christmas present!

[John2]

10. I don't understand

Eastwood's politics at all. The man is just crazy to me. He is a womanizer and doesn't care who sleeps with whom. He makes no sense about War either. He is definitely not a Republican but his choice in Mitt Romney was just stupid. If Romney was one of the characters in the Good,Bad and Ugly, He would have easily fit the Bad and Ugly.

[Bluenorthwest]

14. Clint is and always has been a Republican. To think otherwise is to believe what you want.

He has not always been so deeply out of touch with his actor skills, however and that pitiful outing at the RNC did surprise me. Such a total bomb of an attempt at something that even the audience present there did not get. Old Man Shouts at Chair. Sad coda even for a Republican hypocrite like Eastwood.

[Walk away]

29. Clint is one of those "no rules/no taxes" (for me) Republicans.

He has always been a staunch supporter of the GOP and served as a republican Mayor of Carmel.

[GeorgeGist]

2. What's the house dressing?

[Egalitarian Thug]

4. Umbrella stand taxi plane. n/t

[graham4anything]

7. I don't use dressing on my salad. That adds way too many calories. I like it dry.

[Fumesucker]

12. Gasoline n/t

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

23. Idiot vinaigrette? nt

[SaveAmerica]

45. Muslin

[NWHarkness]

5. Can you provide me with one example

of Affleck "yapping a lot" about running for the Senate?

In the only statement I've saw from him on the subject, he said he would engage in conjecture on the subject. It seemed to me like another Beltway circle jerk rumor without any basis in reality.

[graham4anything]

6. He has yapped over the years to want to be in politics. Put up or shut up.

flirting is great in dating(assuming the other person isn't being harassed or abused).
Flirting in the media and being a media sensation to self promote is not.

It is not that he yapped about the senate, but that was his chance to put up.
Get in the game or stay out. Don't be wishy washy.

Ashley Judd are you listening? Or just teasing?

and I still am not a fan of his releasing Argo, no matter that it was a positive movie, most people only saw the 1979 bad from it, yet the Binladen movie was forced to be delayed.
Don't understand that.

[NWHarkness]

15. So, in a nutshell, no, you can't back up your statement

At least not without twisting it around into something else.

[Enrique]

11. here's Affleck yapping about the Congo

[Bluenorthwest]

13. First, Ben has an Oscar that he won as a writer at age 24. Golden Globe to go with it.

Take a look at that. 1997 he won best screenplay and was instantly the 'flavor of the month' in showbiz. Ben always wanted to direct, but did not actually helm a film until 2007- he waited a decade for his skills to be ready. This should tell a wise observer a few things about his personality.
Neither Ben nor Matt Damon has said they were going to run for any office. Others mention the idea because it makes good sense. One or both of them might in future, and either would get my vote. Neither would take on such a duty lightly, nor unprepared, nor distracted by outside career interests.
I do agree that Lincoln will sweep the Oscars, and as much as I like Ben I admire Kushner, who is my favorite author of plays and whose nomination delights me beyond compare....

[datasuspect]

16. that's pretty sad when you pine for two movie stars to save you.

holy fuck

[Walk away]

30. And complain about them when they dont! nt

[Honeycombe8]

17. Citizens have the right to voice their political opinions w/o running for office.

Even when the citizens are movie stars. First Amendment.

They are not politicians (obviously).

Argo was one of the best movies of the year. The events depicted in them go back to prior administrations, not just Carter's.

Argu and the bin Laden movies are totally different movies. I can see why the latter was held back. If you don't see it, there's no point in trying to explain it to you, except to say that Obama wasn't responsible for saving those people in Argo.

Why are you so angry at a couple of actors? Do you think they are something more than what they are? They're just actors. Nothing more, nothing less.

[ecstatic]

18. Matt Damon is the one with all the rants

But at the end of the day, he prefers to live a glamorous 1% lifestyle while criticizing others from his high horse. He's still cute though.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

27. Clean water in Africa (water.org), the lack of shared sacrifice with regard to Iraq,

calling out the unqualified Yukon Barbie, and fracking ( http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/dec/17/fracking-lobbyists-matt-damon-promised-land )...

Are those the types of rants you're referring to?

If he's on the right, er, left, side of the issues, who fucking cares how much money he makes?

[ecstatic]

39. No

These:

"A friend of mine said to me the other day, I thought it was a great line, 'I no longer hope for audacity,'" Damon told Morgan, explaining that he believes the president has "misinterpreted his mandate" and has "doubled down on a lot of things."

...

Damon told GQ in a recent interview that he watched the president’s speech online the following morning. "I have to say, it was pretty funny," the actor admitted. But he wouldn’t give Obama full credit for the quip. "Whoever came up with it, it was a terrific joke," he said.

...

“I’ve talked to a lot of people who worked for Obama at the grassroots level. One of them said to me, ‘Never again. I will never be fooled again by a politician,’ ” Damon told the magazine. “You know, a one-term president with some balls who actually got stuff done would have been, in the long run of the country, much better.”

Damon pointed to the Occupy Wall Street movement as proof that more needs to be done. “If the Democrats think that they didn’t have a mandate—people are literally without any focus or leadership, just wandering out into the streets to yell right now because they are so pissed off,” he said, adding, “Imagine if they had a leader.”

Considering everything he's said, Matt should have the "balls" to be a "leader." He should put his money where his mouth is, as there is an open senate seat in his state and almost zero competition. He could easily beat the GQ repug if he wanted to. I would be glad to see him (or Ben) run, unfair criticisms and all!

[WorseBeforeBetter]

43. Oh, right: His unequivocal support of public school teachers, of which his mother is one.

Another legitimate criticism.

I'd love for he or Affleck to run. "Worked" for Ronnie Raygun, why not one of ours? Think it was Affleck who said he wouldn't run until he had enough money NOT to be beholden to anyone. Considering his financial success, that speaks volumes about our corrupt political system.

[mmonk]

20. Matt voted for Obama.

But Matt speaks the truth and I stand with him. It's good to see people who get what has happened in America speak their mind. We certainly hear a lot from folks who don't have a clue.

The Bin Laden movie is bad in it's portrayal that torture was instrumental in getting him.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

21. Firstie, The 1st Amendment Puppy sez "shut the fuck up, Matt & Ben"

I heard they were fascists anyway.

[Matariki]

22. Am I the only one that finds this post uncomprehensible?

It seems to refer to things that only the OP knows what. As if written while inebriated

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

24. No. It's pretty much a pattern. I personally enjoy the performance art aspect. nt

[mmonk]

25. Nope.

[Fumesucker]

28. Almost like they were Random Thoughts

[wilsonbooks]

33. is someone due their beer and travel money?

[green for victory]

38. no but it's not exactly a new phenomenon

an inebriated monkey at a typewriter might make more sense at this point.
[IMG][/IMG]

[theKed]

40. Two things this OP makes me think of ...

and

[lunatica]

26. Your post is a very large, fly infested

pile of pure steamy shit.

[WilliamPitt]

31. graham4iambicpentameter

[graywarrior]

32. da dum!

[Swede Atlanta]

34. I couldn't disagree more with your criticism of Matt and Ben......

Both are outspoken individuals who, for the most part, support progressive causes and the Democratic Party. They can effectively use their celebrity to promote causes and raise awareness of issues (similar to what George Clooney did with respect to Sudan).

They can exercise their 1st Amendment rights to support and champion causes and issues the same as any other citizen. They are under no obligation to run for office but I would not be opposed to seeing either one launch a political career.

There are many, many wealthy progressives from the Kennedys to many of the Hollywood elite. They are wealthy. They don't give away all their wealth to those in need. But they also don't fight to keep their taxes at rock bottom or support stripping the social safety net. They support causes that help people.

I'm not aware there was a tactical decision to delay release of Zero Dark Thirty until after the election. I saw a similar movie on cable television a couple of months ago. I would be curious to know if there was political or other pressure to delay the release of the movie. If we weren't living in a hyper-charged political atmosphere the movie itself might not have even raised any concerns. But I can see where release of the movie anywhere near election could be seen as political grand-standing. But I think Obama communicated the actions he has taken to protect the American people, including taking out BL during the debates.

As for Argo, those events were more than 30 years ago. There were no current political issues or candidates that would have been affected one way or another by its release. I was a young man when the events took place but I did not recall the story about the escaped Americans and their anything-but-conventional escape from Iran. it was a great movie from that perspective.

[graham4anything]

44. Yes, it was delayed. It was suppose to open in October and was pushed back to wide January release

with just a few theatres in US (NY LA) to get Oscars for this year.
And the odd thing was, Hurt Locker was a major rightwing movie back at that time

As for Argo, the repubs brought up Obama=Carter 1000s of times during the last few years.
The associate of course is a good association to me, as Jimmy Carter is one of the best presidents, far better than the Bush's and Reagan.
But they were trying to incinuate negatives, not positives
And reminding people of the Iran situation then, after the glorious first 2 1/2 years of the Carter admin, that helped not allow him to win back then.(if the helicopters worked, and the plan succeeded it would have led to the opposite outcome).

Knowing the Hollywood system, it is clearly evident that the BinLaden movie succumbed to pressure and changed their date, and that the repubs were having no problem with the other
meaning that was their intent.

And yes, they can speak out as citizens. As a citizen, I don't have to agree with them.
And as I have relatives in Boston(my sister) it is also evident that in Mass, they are not as liberal as one thinks, and they are rather conservative in many ways, with the Kennedy's not now being the candidate for the Senate seat.

the Kennedy's btw John, Bobby, Teddy all gave their entire lives to public service.
JFK Jr. was about to, had he not let his mother delay his ambitions, and was about to get into political office big time when he died. For all we know, he could have been VP in 2008 had he been alive.
Caroline was ambushed by Gov. Patterson who let the rightwing media talk him out of appointing her to the senate seat of Hillary, and had she been senator, who knows at some point she too might have run for President.
As for some of the other family, two members are now in office, and others have been in and out.
I would say not many families can say the same thing. In fact I can only think of one other family with multiple members having done so and they are on the opposite side of the Kennedy's.


BTW-Mike Bloomberg, liberal democrat from Mass (who switched parties to have an opening to win, but that doesn't stop the fact that he is a liberal from Mass), has said he is giving his entire billions to charities and causes- ALL 100% of his charity are liberal issues. ALL of them.
And he is using billions to fight guns in the street, like no one else has ever done.

[Puregonzo1188]

35. Only people who run run for Senate are allowed to voice opinions?

I mean I suppose you're better than the other poster who seemed to imply the military should be running the government, but not by much.

[cali]

36. your posts are becoming increasingly unhinged.

[ornotna]

37. See Dick run

Run Dick run. See Jane. See Jane roll her eyes.



Uh, what?

[RudynJack]

41. you're mad at an actor

Because others speculated he might run for office? Well screw him!

[DevonRex]

42. Ben is the smart one.

Bless him, Matt tries hard.