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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAs US Is Poised To Lose Measles-Free Status, RFK Jr.'s New CDC Deputy Downplays Its Significance
https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/measles-free-status-us-cdc-ralph-abraham-paho-who-outbreaks-vaccines/Everything is just a transactional cost. And if the repuglicon-controlled federal gov't doesn't want to pay it, "sue me."
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"It's just the cost of doing business with our borders being somewhat porous for global and international travel," Abraham said. "We have these communities that choose to be unvaccinated. That's their personal freedom."
Infections from other countries, however, accounted for only about 10% of measles cases detected since Jan. 20, 2025, the official start of the deadly measles outbreak in West Texas, which spread to other states and Mexico. The rest were acquired domestically. This marks a change since the U.S. eliminated measles in 2000. Measles occasionally popped up in the U.S. from people infected abroad, but the cases rarely sparked outbreaks, because of extremely high rates of vaccination. Two doses of the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine strongly prevent infection and halt the virus's spread.
To maintain its measles elimination status, the U.S. must prove that the virus has not circulated continuously in the nation for a year, between Jan. 20, 2025, and Jan. 20, 2026. To answer the question, scientists are examining whether the major outbreaks in South Carolina, Utah, Arizona, and Texas were linked.
Ilsa
(64,026 posts)appear to know little about infectious diseases. Trying to stay vaccinated.
erronis
(23,091 posts)I wish other people's dumb decisions didn't affect those that are more rational!
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(13,419 posts)Skittles
(170,198 posts)yes INDEED
UTUSN
(77,302 posts)hatrack
(64,503 posts)At least 88 new measles cases in South Carolina have been confirmed amid the state's outbreak, bringing the total number of infections to 646, state health officials said Tuesday. The majority of cases have been found in the Upstate region and around Spartanburg County, which sits on the border with North Carolina.
The South Carolina Department of Public Health said there are currently 538 people in quarantine and 33 in isolation. The latest end of quarantine will be on Feb. 23. There are at least 15 schools -- including elementary, middle and high schools -- which currently have students in quarantine.
Health officials also warned of exposures at Clemson University and Anderson University, both located in northwestern South Carolina, which have a combined 88 students in quarantine. Additionally, health officials warned that some individuals visited at least one of two northwestern locations while infectious, including a Publix in Duncan on Friday, Jan. 16, and a Food Lion in Inman on Sunday, Jan. 11, and Monday, Jan. 12.
The health department said those who were exposed at Publix in Duncan, especially those without immunity through vaccination or previous disease, should monitor for symptoms through Feb. 6. while those exposed at Food Lion in Inman should monitor for symptoms through Feb. 1 or Feb. 2.
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https://abcnews.go.com/Health/88-new-measles-cases-confirmed-south-carolina-bringing/story?id=129377559
CurtEastPoint
(19,903 posts)erronis
(23,091 posts)How can someone who has a medical education (which is usually pretty liberal) turn into a slug like this?
fujiyamasan
(1,431 posts)Many are quite conservative and a lot of the doctors that ended up in politics appear to be republicans.
Of course, its a profession with a wide variety of views. A lot just vote on money, and cant be bothered by anything else.
Melon
(1,176 posts)Mormons likely picked up the first measles cases through the travel of individuals from their sister location in Mexico. Their unvaccinated status allowed it proliferate and spread.
The question now with the max enforcement of vaccinations is whether this outbreak ever truly stops? It would seem with the policy only a year old that this would require only contagion of the very young, which is not the case.
I dont see this as ever truly being a contained situation without mandatory vaccination, but this would require curtailing individual and religious freedoms. I dont see this being solved.
erronis
(23,091 posts)Polio? TB (mostly)?
I think your suggesting these would curtail "individual and religious freedoms" is a RW talking point. They get to choose what freedoms they want and don't care what harms these cause everyone else.
Melon
(1,176 posts)But if the Mormons were where this started. They wont vaccinate for religious reasons the same way that they Mennonite, Amish etcetera wont go to the doctor. How do you force a group to do something with their bodies? Abortion rights is a similar argument but the opposite with the body. Its hard to force someone to do something to their own body.
Initech
(107,974 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(176,745 posts)Deputy Director Ralph Abraham appears unconcerned that the U.S. is losing its measles elimination status. Public health experts arent pleased.
Link to tweet
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/measles-outbreaks-elimination-ralph-abraham
With measles transmission in the United States at levels that havent been seen in decades, the principal deputy director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Tuesday that he would not view the loss of the countrys measles elimination status as a significant event.
Not really, said Ralph Abraham, a physician who formerly served as Louisianas surgeon general. You know, its just the cost of doing business, with our borders being somewhat porous [and] global and international travel.
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..Abraham added, We have these communities that choose to be unvaccinated. Thats their personal freedom.
As The San Francisco Chronicle noted, public health advocates responded to the CDC deputy directors comments with disgust. Pediatrician and vaccine specialist Paul Offit said in an online discussion hosted by the health blog Inside Medicine this week, When you hear somebody like Abraham say the cost of doing business, how can you be more callous? Three people died of measles last year in this country.....
Abraham has gone so far as to describe Covid shots as dangerous (they are not) and touted ivermectin during the 2020 pandemic, despite science showing the drug was an ineffective treatment.
Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. nevertheless brought the Louisiana Republican in to serve as principal deputy director at the CDC, effectively the agencys No. 2.
Three months later, Abraham appears wholly unconcerned about the United States losing its measles elimination status.
My siblings and I all had measles before the vaccine. It was not fun. My sister had polio and was on crutches for a while but has recovered. We need vaccinations for all of these diseases.
