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Chasstev365

(7,375 posts)
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 07:23 AM Jan 22

Have Schumer and Jefferies forgotten how to hold a press conference?

* State that the Davos Speech shows that Trump is a raving loon and an embarrassment to the USA. Talk about Trump's dementia the way Republicans attacked Joe Biden.

* State that ICE is arresting children and the DOJ believes that ICE DOESN’T NEED A WARRANT TO BURST INTO PEOPLE'S HOMES! Hello: the 4th Amendment in the Bill of Rights?

* Explain the according the GOP, the Clinton's must testify to Congress or be held in contempt, yet numerous Republicans, including some on the very committee, blew off their own subpoenas with zero consequences

MY GOD: AT LEAST TRY TO FIGHT THE MADNESS AND EXPOSE THE GOP TO AMERICANS WHO AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION!

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Have Schumer and Jefferies forgotten how to hold a press conference? (Original Post) Chasstev365 Jan 22 OP
Whatever they ARE doing, it's not enough. It's ridiculous they aren't capitalizing on this moment of abject madness by LymphocyteLover Jan 22 #1
I agree. Alliepoo Jan 22 #92
Schumer and Jeffries can't believe what good luck they're having bucolic_frolic Jan 22 #2
People are gonna vote for a party led by the "timid". AloeVera Jan 22 #6
Yeah, because timidity has been such a triumph for Democrats, all these years. Paladin Jan 22 #18
Post removed Post removed Jan 22 #44
They're still "keeping the powder dry". Still. FoxNewsSucks Jan 22 #168
Making themselves a target for MAGA and FauxNoise does nothing bucolic_frolic Jan 22 #88
Making themselves a target? Cirsium Jan 22 #98
I don't think they're exercising sound strategy. Alliepoo Jan 22 #99
This message was self-deleted by its author Javaman Jan 22 #23
Why did any dem vote for any of TSF's nominees? n/t returnee Jan 22 #71
exactly. nt Javaman Jan 22 #72
Good question. NT Bozvotros Jan 22 #118
I think you're confusing him with Se. Cory Booker.. people in the House don't vote to approve apointees. LymphocyteLover Jan 22 #111
THANK YOU. maxsolomon Jan 22 #124
I stand corrected. I will pull my thread. :) nt Javaman Jan 22 #137
The Supreme Court's decision to allow unlimited campaign donations and dark money Bozvotros Jan 22 #117
No, Hakeem Jeffries did not vote to confirm Kushner as ambassador to France. lapucelle Jan 22 #125
I know that's their strategy but I don't agree with it. yardwork Jan 22 #33
If timid was the right strategy, he would never have gotten a Tadpole Raisin Jan 22 #43
i think this is milquetoast. Hieronymus Phact Jan 22 #46
Yeah, right choie Jan 22 #61
True.. agingdem Jan 22 #67
Wishful thinking Cirsium Jan 22 #101
So we are fighting Trump/Republicans with Quietness & Timidity? OK, Got it! Ars Longa Jan 22 #69
Agreed. RoseTrellis Jan 22 #80
Absurd Cirsium Jan 22 #104
I get it, but... SpankMe Jan 22 #83
This is NOT a sound strategy. How about talking about compassion, empathy and pounding on the moral compass? n/t PatrickforB Jan 22 #84
I think you forgot the Alliepoo Jan 22 #93
That is the problem Cirsium Jan 22 #94
You answered your own question with Soul_of_Wit Jan 22 #96
The flip side of that line of thought is Dems need to peak in November, not now. bucolic_frolic Jan 22 #100
Peak? Cirsium Jan 22 #103
Yes, I'm sure that's what they are doing but as others here have pointed out, that safe strategy is not enough for our LymphocyteLover Jan 22 #113
Because that strategy was SO successful in 2024 . . . markpkessinger Jan 22 #123
I agree with this, however oldmanlynn Jan 23 #176
There's an old saying SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #3
And, the fact that they are also shooting other people while they are shooting themselves in the foot is okay? OldBaldy1701E Jan 22 #24
So what is the solution? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #73
Obvious Cirsium Jan 22 #108
Can you be more specific? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #120
About what? Cirsium Jan 22 #141
About stopping Trump and republicans SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #143
The sea lion is here. Scrivener7 Jan 22 #150
If there are better spokespeople JBTaurus83 Jan 22 #57
Two different skill sets SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #75
Press the advantage Cirsium Jan 22 #105
How? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #119
LOL Cirsium Jan 22 #156
How do they press the advantage? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #157
Addressed elsewhere Cirsium Jan 22 #161
Where? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #163
Why? Cirsium Jan 23 #178
Because you said above SocialDemocrat61 Jan 23 #180
What's the old saying for when they're murdering Americans with impunity? Scrivener7 Jan 22 #127
They are not shooting anyone in the foot. They are shooting people in the eye and in the face. Autumn Jan 22 #130
And what is your solution? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #132
What is yours? Please be specific. Scrivener7 Jan 22 #134
Nice deflection SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #135
Can I solve this? What kind of moronic question is that? Of course I can't. Scrivener7 Jan 22 #140
Maybe because every suggestion is to blame democrats SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #142
Every single suggestion. Every single time. Scrivener7 Jan 22 #144
And what are they? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #145
'When your enemy is shooting themself in the foot, let them and don't get in the way'. Rigpa108 Jan 23 #179
So what should they be doing? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 23 #181
I know what they should NOT be doing... Rigpa108 Jan 25 #183
But they aren't doing nothing SocialDemocrat61 Jan 25 #184
I think... myohmy2 Jan 22 #4
And the files.... Have to remember that Epstein was a big Democratic Party supporter and financial guy. LiberalArkie Jan 22 #19
Get another job, then. JBTaurus83 Jan 22 #59
What makes you think those who aren't paying attention JI7 Jan 22 #5
Nothing Ventured,...... Etc. ColoringFool Jan 22 #28
You're gonna get scolded for your lack of faith Orrex Jan 22 #7
Can you give us a recap of today's press conference and your thoughts on it? W_HAMILTON Jan 22 #110
It called"just let him rave and rant" strategy. Ray Bruns Jan 22 #8
I think nine years of rope should be sufficient - werdna Jan 22 #17
He's in the office because someone's eggs were supposedly to expensive. (Which is bullshit). Ray Bruns Jan 22 #48
Yeah, No. More Like A Bungee Cord. ColoringFool Jan 22 #30
Yeah choie Jan 22 #63
They are keeping all of Bettie Jan 22 #9
Or maybe these guys just aren't that smart. Bluetus Jan 22 #90
I don't know what is up with it all Bettie Jan 22 #95
Citizen's United isn't just for Republicans Bluetus Jan 22 #133
Exactly correct Bettie Jan 22 #147
"Oh Bullwinkle, that strongly worded letter never works" gay texan Jan 22 #10
Fan mail Cirsium Jan 22 #107
Something is very wrong with the Dem leadership right now. Baitball Blogger Jan 22 #11
Equal Opportunity Epstein Files? 🤔 🧐 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷‍♀️🤷 ColoringFool Jan 22 #31
Fuck speeches, gab13by13 Jan 22 #12
With things this bad, this dangerous in our country democrank Jan 22 #13
DemDUer's with absolute opposite opinions- in the end I sure hope we all pull on the same rope. NoMoreRepugs Jan 22 #14
We will angrychair Jan 22 #64
No choice Cirsium Jan 22 #112
Yes, every single day! n/t werdna Jan 22 #15
They are good back room leaders, not charismatic Johonny Jan 22 #16
Gavin. AOC. MIA: Obama, Big Bill, Gore, Dean, HRC..... ColoringFool Jan 22 #34
We will win - because victory will come to us in due time - if we pray hard and wait long enough. dalton99a Jan 22 #20
I've Been Waiting Since, Oh, 1963. ColoringFool Jan 22 #36
Jeffries says God is still on the Throne! JBTaurus83 Jan 22 #60
Well, God did outlast Hitler and He will outlast Trump. dalton99a Jan 22 #62
Fair point JBTaurus83 Jan 22 #66
I don't remember god climbing down off his throne to help the people the Nazis murdered. Autumn Jan 22 #131
Cory Booker Gingermolly Jan 22 #21
I think they are waiting. Autumn Jan 22 #22
in a time when we are surrounded by madness... Javaman Jan 22 #25
Ah, the magic fighting spirit press conference that Americans huddled 'round the TV like in the '60s betsuni Jan 22 #26
Well, There WAS That "I Have A Dream" Speech. Plus,... ColoringFool Jan 22 #37
Not press conferences. betsuni Jan 22 #149
Waiting for the "rope" portion of the 'rope-a-dope' program? 🤷‍♀️ littlemissmartypants Jan 22 #27
IMO Abstractartist Jan 22 #29
I agree. BUT 4bonhoffer Jan 22 #32
Then Our Guys Need To Actually CHALLENGE THE MEDIA, DARE THEM TO ... ColoringFool Jan 22 #39
Post removed Post removed Jan 22 #35
Wrong word. Easterncedar Jan 22 #54
pussies are TOUGH Skittles Jan 22 #172
LAME "LEADERS" Clouds Passing Jan 22 #38
Just what we need. murielm99 Jan 22 #40
There is a legitimate disagreement Cirsium Jan 22 #114
I don't much care for murielm99 Jan 22 #121
Fine Cirsium Jan 22 #138
Makes me appreciate and support Democrats all the more! betsuni Jan 22 #152
Absolutely LittleGirl Jan 22 #41
I don't think seeing them wobble around is going to be very inspiring LR3 Jan 22 #42
There are lots of Dems in both houses who would be much tougher than those two. ratchiweenie Jan 22 #45
Should be out there every DAMN DAY, especially Jefferies Joinfortmill Jan 22 #47
+1. Seriously. What the fuck are they doing? dalton99a Jan 22 #51
Think they will slowly ramp up as we get into Spring. Citizens attention span is as long as a hummingbirds wing flap n/t Cheezoholic Jan 22 #49
Good grief. 🙄🥱 QueerDuck Jan 22 #50
Pot meet kettle Cirsium Jan 22 #115
Oh, really? Tell me more. QueerDuck Jan 22 #116
No thanks Cirsium Jan 22 #154
Yeah, I figured as much. 🙄 QueerDuck Jan 22 #155
New definition of "divisive": supporting Democrats. betsuni Jan 22 #159
I do too. It's BS. It stinks. Sigh. QueerDuck Jan 22 #164
sound advice during normal times Skittles Jan 22 #173
K&R spanone Jan 22 #52
Timid gets us every other election when we should be Tadpole Raisin Jan 22 #53
Could not agree more karin_sj Jan 22 #55
I'm very proud of we the people JBTaurus83 Jan 22 #56
Pelosi held regular conferences at least during Covid ALBliberal Jan 22 #58
Not a Cuomo fan, but I appreciated his daily pressers during Covid JonAndKatePlusABird Jan 22 #68
Same. ALBliberal Jan 22 #81
When your enemy is making a mistake, don't interrupt him. hay rick Jan 22 #65
Would you feel this same way justaprogressive Jan 22 #70
It looks to me like Sun Tzu agrees with me (and himself since I borrowed his point). hay rick Jan 22 #77
DURec leftstreet Jan 22 #74
So many topics to cover. Unambiguous topics! yellow dahlia Jan 22 #76
I think leadership and the consultant class... OneGrassRoot Jan 22 #78
Consultant advice so far seems to be silence and prayerful meditation. dalton99a Jan 22 #82
Morning rant. TALK IS CHEAP. Show me the action. usonian Jan 22 #79
It is sad Quanto Magnus Jan 22 #85
If we are to win the midterms Scubamatt Jan 22 #86
It's a losing strategy to be quiet and timid danieljsf Jan 22 #87
Au contraire , They want to talk about bipartisanship to solve the affordability crisis. flashman13 Jan 22 #89
Ironic that as Jeffries is giving a press conference right now, no one here is talking about it. W_HAMILTON Jan 22 #91
"Maybe those that wanted a press conference so badly can start a live thread here now to discuss it?" LudwigPastorius Jan 22 #97
Hear, hear BaronChocula Jan 22 #109
Then it's "Finally breaking their silence" -- they totally want a press conference, just not THAT press conference. betsuni Jan 22 #148
Exactly right. Next it will be "all they do is whine and complain at press conferences" along with... QueerDuck Jan 23 #182
Two things can be true at once senseandsensibility Jan 22 #102
Here creeksneakers2 Jan 22 #106
Thank you. betsuni Jan 22 #160
Never let the facts SocialDemocrat61 Jan 22 #171
Probably keeping their powder dry. malthaussen Jan 22 #122
... orangecrush Jan 22 #146
that's why we are not in power. trump would have been spouting crap and lies, but he samsingh Jan 22 #126
Spineless! Useless! North Coast Lawyer Jan 22 #128
Apparently they are. Evolve Dammit Jan 22 #129
Holding a press conference would take more courage than either one of them has. red dog 1 Jan 22 #136
They're discussing it with Merrick Garland as we speak. Lucky Luciano Jan 22 #139
The lack of leadership is unbelievable!! Both can go as far as I'm concerned. Pisces Jan 22 #151
Maybe Groundhawg Jan 22 #153
But then they'd have to take a position on something. DJ Synikus Makisimus Jan 22 #158
They learned their triangulation from the best... regnaD kciN Jan 22 #162
Then lose in 2028 and wonder why, mr715 Jan 22 #166
Exactly. And as one of those liberals FoxNewsSucks Jan 22 #169
Clear from this thread that nobody knows flamingdem Jan 22 #165
Oh, dear. Someone suggested that the leadership do more in the face of the existential crisis Scrivener7 Jan 22 #167
Did they EVER 'KNOW how to hold one' in this particular situation ??? Jack Valentino Jan 22 #170
Exactly VGuerra276 Jan 22 #174
Schumer and Jeffries are passive pushovers flying-skeleton Jan 23 #175
Bravo! Bread and Circuses Jan 23 #177

LymphocyteLover

(9,548 posts)
1. Whatever they ARE doing, it's not enough. It's ridiculous they aren't capitalizing on this moment of abject madness by
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 07:24 AM
Jan 22

the Republican POTUS

bucolic_frolic

(54,481 posts)
2. Schumer and Jeffries can't believe what good luck they're having
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 07:33 AM
Jan 22

If this holds til November, they're good to go. They don't want to do anything to upset the apple cart, ding the fundraising, nor undermine any of the extensive list of fine candidates they have recruited. They themselves don't want to become the problem. So they're going timid. Explain to us all how that is not a sound strategy. Viewed another way, Democrats don't need to take on political risk and blowback. They just need to trudge forward and let the mass of what they've banked pay off.

SO I find criticism of them ill-informed.

 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
18. Yeah, because timidity has been such a triumph for Democrats, all these years.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 08:27 AM
Jan 22

At this point, I'd settle for a little public outrage from Democratic leadership. Is that just too much to ask for, as our country devolves into a Goddamned police state?

Response to Paladin (Reply #18)

bucolic_frolic

(54,481 posts)
88. Making themselves a target for MAGA and FauxNoise does nothing
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 12:59 PM
Jan 22

Jeffries in particular could become speaker any week or month as the GOP implodes and retires.

Making loud noises and alienating everyone is not sound strategy. Dems need to peak in November, not win a shouting contest in February.

They are executing sound strategy, and have some considerable basis for its effectiveness in polling and past performance.

How is making a lot of noise working for Trump? He keeps plummeting in the polls.

Well guess what? We can plummet to and help Trump if we act that way. It goes both ways.

The people are deciding. We'll be out front leading them on Election Day. For sure.

Cirsium

(3,664 posts)
98. Making themselves a target?
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 02:01 PM
Jan 22

Last edited Fri Jan 23, 2026, 01:04 AM - Edit history (1)

All Democrats are "targets for MAGA and FauxNoise," no matter what any of us say or do. That is no excuse. Fear and weakness is not a winning strategy. It is what caused this nightmare, to a large extent.

A "shouting contest?" Is that how you see this?

Alliepoo

(2,791 posts)
99. I don't think they're exercising sound strategy.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 02:04 PM
Jan 22

And I think they might be paying too much attention to pollsters. People are PISSED about Ice and the horrible things they’re doing, about the economy and healthcare and Greenland and Donvict and so much more. They want and NEED to see and hear action from the Dems snd all they’re getting is crickets. It’s not a good thing. If the pollsters are recommending this course of (what looks to the voting public as) inaction and impotence, they should probably be kicked to the curb. Now is the time for Dems to step up and take advantage. Folks want fire and fight and the Dems need to bring it now and keep it stoked till November.

Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #2)

Bozvotros

(955 posts)
117. The Supreme Court's decision to allow unlimited campaign donations and dark money
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 03:04 PM
Jan 22

has caused our whole electoral system to reek of corruption and legalized bribery. dominated by the wealthiest corporations and individuals. SCOTUS wanted it that way because they clearly wanted in on it too. This ruling encourages or nearly forces some candidates to accept donations and make compromises they would otherwise reject. But Jeffries taking money from the Kushners should have been a bridge too far for him. Don't let me get started on Schumer.

The next time our party holds power, we have to, impeach Thomas, Alito, and any other judge who we know has accepted money and gifts. If that can't be done, we must enlarge the court and install Democratic or progressive judges to balance the SC. Other reforms, including no lifetime terms, strict ethical rules with congressional oversight are badly needed and long overdue.

Real electoral reform would also require a return to the Fairness doctrine for public airwaves. Primary and election funding must be public financing or limited individual citizen contributions only. No more bullshit about a company being a person too. Penalties for election finance violations would need to include large fines and mandatory jail time for repeated or egregious acts. It is also necessary to eliminate stock trading for members and family of the House and Senate, and anyone working in or for the White House.

But I'm just kidding myself. None of that can or will happen when states can redraw their districts whenever they want and make laws to limit and restrict voting. What I'm saying is we have a shit ton of work to do, starting with winning the upcoming midterms.

lapucelle

(20,964 posts)
125. No, Hakeem Jeffries did not vote to confirm Kushner as ambassador to France.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 03:50 PM
Jan 22
Where did this piece of misinformation come from?

Let's review some basic civics and revisit the constitution. It is the US Senate that votes to confirm those whom the president nominates as ambassadors.

Article II, Section 2, Clause 2:

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S2-C2-3-4/ALDE_00013095/

====================

Hakeem Jeffries is a congressman, not a senator. He serves in the House, not the Senate.

Members of the House don't get to vote for or against ambassadorial nominations.


----------------------------------------------

Here is a link to the roll call confirmation vote to confirm Charles Kushner ambassador to France.

Roll Call Vote 119th Congress - 1st Session

Question: On the Nomination (Confirmation: Charles Kushner, of New York, to be Ambassador of the United States of America to the French Republic and the Principality of Monaco)

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1191/vote_119_1_00261.htm#position

=========================


Misinformation about Democrats should be corrected, lest it be repeated to the point that it morphs into disinformation.

Who benefits from misinformation and/or disinformation about our Party's congressional leaders?

Cui bono?

Not Democrats.





Tadpole Raisin

(1,977 posts)
43. If timid was the right strategy, he would never have gotten a
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:47 AM
Jan 22

second term. The average person voting Republican has the attention span and memory of a gnat. They forgot how bad it was under him and with him constantly telling people how great his administration was they kind of went along with it.

And the Democratic tendency to wait until after Labor Day (the official start of the election season) to about the talk about what great things Dems have done and how horrible Republicans have been almost guarantees a loss. By that time they are so far behind the 8 ball they barely make a dent until just before the election.

This is a 24/7/365 day effort. It doesn’t have to be in your face but it does require regular reminders to the populace in the moment.

The OP is right, sorry!

Hieronymus Phact

(730 posts)
46. i think this is milquetoast.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:51 AM
Jan 22

Risk is a required. People follow strength.
Most people don't pay attention to anything outside their own little daily bubble.
The more voices there are standing up and saying this is wacko, un-American shit going on, the more of a possibility that someone who's not paying much attention will hear it and say "yeah it seemed strange when i heard something like that last week, that's messed up".

Being in congress gives them a louder voice than average people, It's their duty to speak up and lead.

choie

(6,801 posts)
61. Yeah, right
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 10:13 AM
Jan 22

And we thought Kamala was going to win in 2024. No way should the Dems sit on their asses and do nothing, unless you want the same thing to happen in 2026.

agingdem

(8,784 posts)
67. True..
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 10:26 AM
Jan 22

Last edited Thu Jan 22, 2026, 01:17 PM - Edit history (1)

Woodrow Wilson once said “Never attempt to murder a man who is committing suicide”..

Schumer and Jeffries are savvy enough to know when to stay out of the way of a party (Republican), a movement (MAGA), and their psychotic dementia-addled leader are in the process of’ “committing suicide”..

Cirsium

(3,664 posts)
101. Wishful thinking
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 02:07 PM
Jan 22

Fear and denial, masquerading as caution.

MAGA is not "committing suicide," they are committing murder. "“Never attempt to stop a man who is committing murder” would be a more accurate description of that strategy.

Ars Longa

(495 posts)
69. So we are fighting Trump/Republicans with Quietness & Timidity? OK, Got it!
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 10:37 AM
Jan 22

There should be zero wonder the Dems approval is at 29%!
And Trump is marauding thru this country like a mad, lawless T-Rex.



RoseTrellis

(135 posts)
80. Agreed.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 11:16 AM
Jan 22

Dem leadership is doing the exact proper thing- give the bastards enough rope to hang themselves.
When the enemy is self destructing- LET THEM!

I trust them to stay quiet until the repukes, emboldened by lack of resistance, inevitably go to far with their overreach.
THATS when we can lay all the cards on the table and say the emperor has no clothes!

Cirsium

(3,664 posts)
104. Absurd
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 02:23 PM
Jan 22

The Republicans have had more than enough rope to hang themselves for decades.

The Republicans always go too far with their overreach. Yes, that can result in some wins for Democrats, but the Republicans keep working and keep gaining in strength and come roaring back with a vengeance.

"THATS when we can lay all the cards on the table?"

Why would we ever hide our cards at all?

"...and say the emperor has no clothes!"

Why not say that now? Actually, why say it ever?

SpankMe

(3,676 posts)
83. I get it, but...
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 12:06 PM
Jan 22

1. Although polls are showing Repubs losing support, there's no evidence or valid analysis so far showing that this will result in electoral gains for Dems in the upcoming election. We're assuming that gripes over Greenland, ICE and authoritarian insanity will mean a Dem landslide in November, but polls are snapshots and voters are fickle.

2. Rocking the boat a little won't sully Dems and throw independents into Republican arms. I think that highlighting the authoritarian behavior with frequent press conferences and public statements keeps these issues on the front burner and tells the public that we're watching.

Cirsium

(3,664 posts)
94. That is the problem
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 01:48 PM
Jan 22

They can't believe what good luck they're having?

That's the problem. The worse things get for us us, the better it is for them. Our misfortune is their good fortune.

That is true for a small army of people - politicians, consultants, pod casters, MSM pundits. Fascism is good for business.

What was it Carville recommended? Playing 'possum?

That approach is what brought us to where we are.

Soul_of_Wit

(35 posts)
96. You answered your own question with
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 01:50 PM
Jan 22

"If this holds til November". It won't. The tangerine toddler is in a second term because of timidity. If folks perceive a political party as doing nothing, then they won't vote for them. The lesson of "anyone but W" is that folks will give another term to W and reject the vague "anyone." That lesson is as old as DU.

bucolic_frolic

(54,481 posts)
100. The flip side of that line of thought is Dems need to peak in November, not now.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 02:04 PM
Jan 22

We're in this fix because Republicans won the war of income taxes. They exempted their rich donor class to a great degree which put responsibility for the federal budget further and further down the income scale until it divided the middle class base into those who pay for, and those who receive, the social safety net. Gen Z is even in an uproar over Social Security.

Cirsium

(3,664 posts)
103. Peak?
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 02:17 PM
Jan 22

We need more than a "peak."

A massive campaign of lying is what "divided people into those who pay for, and those who receive, the social safety net," and failure by the Democrats to fight back strongly against that is why it succeeded. No, they were playing it safe, pussyfooting around with the Republicans, and waiting for Nixon Reagan Bush to self-destruct.

"Gen Z is even in an uproar over Social Security," to the extent that people are, because ignorant people are being deceived by malicious actors. Playing it safe is what allows that sort of crap to fly. Yet that is what you are advocating.

LymphocyteLover

(9,548 posts)
113. Yes, I'm sure that's what they are doing but as others here have pointed out, that safe strategy is not enough for our
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 02:55 PM
Jan 22

current fascist times.

oldmanlynn

(793 posts)
176. I agree with this, however
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 12:00 AM
Jan 23

I think Democrats need to stop seeding the airways to the Republicans. They should get out there and put a better message out and be in the conversation. I have to admit that I don’t know what that message is, but there’s a whole bunch of good choices.

SocialDemocrat61

(7,182 posts)
3. There's an old saying
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 07:37 AM
Jan 22

Last edited Thu Jan 22, 2026, 11:14 AM - Edit history (1)

‘When your enemy is shooting themself in the foot, let them and don’t get in the way’. And frankly there are democrats who are better spokespersons than either of them.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,629 posts)
24. And, the fact that they are also shooting other people while they are shooting themselves in the foot is okay?
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:19 AM
Jan 22

I do not agree. They have already 'shot themselves in the foot' enough. If people cannot see how dangerous and insane he and his cronies are, then there is nothing we can do about them and they will just have to go down with their ship of choice.

So how many lives are worth the sticking to your adage and just waiting around until our broken system is used to try and fix our broken system?

10? 100? One percent of the population? (That's three million people, btw.)

Cirsium

(3,664 posts)
108. Obvious
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 02:30 PM
Jan 22

Play it safe is not exactly a "constructive idea," in my opinion, but if we accept that it is, the obvious alternative "constructive idea" would be don't play is safe.

JBTaurus83

(991 posts)
57. If there are better spokespeople
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 10:09 AM
Jan 22

They should be the ones in charge. We have been hearing the “keep the powder dry” since Bush. That sure has worked out tremendously.

SocialDemocrat61

(7,182 posts)
75. Two different skill sets
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 11:00 AM
Jan 22

The job of minority leader in either house is not to be the top spokesperson. It's more of an organizational job. Too many confuse our system for parliamentary systems where the leader of the minority is the top spokesperson and who becomes Prime Minister if they win back the majority.

Cirsium

(3,664 posts)
156. LOL
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 07:29 PM
Jan 22

Nope, not playing that game. Been down that road too many times. You well know the specific policies that Progressives have been advocating for decades.

Let's look back to the 1850s. Critics: "the Whigs should more aggressively oppose slavery." Whig leadership response - "What's your alternative? Be specific."

The Whigs thought that the pro-slavery forces would go too far, and that would then lead to Whig electoral wins. Ff they just played it safe, the opposition party would self-destruct - "commit suicide" - if "we got out of their way." But that didn't happen. It was the Whigs who self-destructed with their timidity and compromises.

Scrivener7

(58,875 posts)
127. What's the old saying for when they're murdering Americans with impunity?
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 04:40 PM
Jan 22

Invading people's homes without warrants? Shitting all over every clause of the Constitution? Doing their best to destroy our Democracy?

If they were shooting themselves in the foot, I'd be fine with letting them continue.

This is not that. This is a war.

Autumn

(48,866 posts)
130. They are not shooting anyone in the foot. They are shooting people in the eye and in the face.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 04:57 PM
Jan 22

This is not republicans destroying each other or shooting themselves in the foot. They are killing Americans.

Scrivener7

(58,875 posts)
140. Can I solve this? What kind of moronic question is that? Of course I can't.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 05:38 PM
Jan 22

Did you think that was some kind of gotcha to point out that I can't solve this mess we're in? Really?

This OP talks about something that can be done. Why do you fight so hard against every suggestion of things that can be done against this crisis? Every single one. Every single time.

Whatever you think it's achieving, this weird little attempt at a gotcha question you have been asking throughout this thread has nothing to do with the subject at hand, and it's just dippy. And it certainly isn't the flex you seem to think it is.

SocialDemocrat61

(7,182 posts)
142. Maybe because every suggestion is to blame democrats
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 05:42 PM
Jan 22

instead of blaming Trump and republicans. Sort of like if FDR blame the British when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.

So do you have an actual effective solution that is not just blaming democrats?

Rigpa108

(70 posts)
179. 'When your enemy is shooting themself in the foot, let them and don't get in the way'.
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 01:11 AM
Jan 23

‘When your enemy is shooting themself in the foot, let them and don’t get in the way’.
If that foot is pressing agains you face you are already in the way. So do nothing?

'And frankly there are democrats who are better spokespersons than either of them.'
Unfortunately those are the democrats that the democratic establishment shuns away (AOC, David Hogg, etc).

Be an opposition party, or be nothing. Really.

Rigpa108

(70 posts)
183. I know what they should NOT be doing...
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 04:08 AM
Jan 25

I know what they should NOT be doing, and that is doing nothing.

'When your enemy is shooting themself in the foot, let them and don't get in the way'
Let me counter that quote with:
'The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing'
Now let that sink in.

An example of what the leaders of the party should be doing?
https://www.democraticunderground.com/132165129

My message to the leaders of the Democratic Party:
Do something or get the hell out of the way!

Being timid is not the answer when the country is facing an existential threat.

SocialDemocrat61

(7,182 posts)
184. But they aren't doing nothing
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 07:33 AM
Jan 25

The problem is you don’t understand what their job really is and just what is legal and allowed by the constitution.

JI7

(93,360 posts)
5. What makes you think those who aren't paying attention
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 07:44 AM
Jan 22

are suddenly going to pay attention to Schumer and Jefferies ?

I think Schumer needs to retire but these posts make no sense.

Ray Bruns

(6,098 posts)
48. He's in the office because someone's eggs were supposedly to expensive. (Which is bullshit).
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:55 AM
Jan 22

And he’s still in off because Trump keeps al the Republican’s spines in a closet in the White House.

Bettie

(19,445 posts)
9. They are keeping all of
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 07:53 AM
Jan 22

That “powder” dry. If bad things ever happen, they will be ready…but , apparently what is happening now is not enough to even be particularly upset about.

Bluetus

(2,484 posts)
90. Or maybe these guys just aren't that smart.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 01:19 PM
Jan 22

I mean, what evidence have we seen that tells us these guys are in the top 1% of leaders/fighters/strategists, or even the top 25%?

Bettie

(19,445 posts)
95. I don't know what is up with it all
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 01:49 PM
Jan 22

it could be that they aren't all that smart, it could be what their large donors are telling them to do...who knows?

I'm certainly not wealthy enough to understand why congresscritters do what they do...I don't have enough money to matter.

Bluetus

(2,484 posts)
133. Citizen's United isn't just for Republicans
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 05:12 PM
Jan 22

I can't say for certain about any individual's motives or ethics. But there are many people who see D.C. as a game and if you play by the rules, you can do very well for yourself. And this game often involves telling your constituents the opposite of what you tell your donors. We should not make the mistake of assuming that only Republicans do this. And Democrats will rationalize that with the argument that they have to raise money in order to compete.

Our system is a mess -- intentionally.

Bettie

(19,445 posts)
147. Exactly correct
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 06:49 PM
Jan 22

I tend to look at the Open Secrets page for various politicians.

It is about 90% predicative of what they will vote for and against. For some, more, for a very few, less.

And Citizens United made it so that donors and PACs are FAR more important than constituents.

I don't fully blame the elected officials, they have to play the game the way it is set up and Republicans have the advantage as they are, generally speaking, not hampered by ethics or human decency.

democrank

(12,380 posts)
13. With things this bad, this dangerous in our country
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 08:15 AM
Jan 22

EVERY member of Congress should speak up. It’s a matter of principles to me, not political calculations.

Imagine if there were grave problems in our family and someone suggested we just sit back and wait. Don’t rock the boat. Don’t make waves.

angrychair

(11,897 posts)
64. We will
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 10:18 AM
Jan 22

Because where we must because we won't have any choice but I will use the primary season to advocate for an other Democrat than a Democrat can calling to abolish ICE.
There is no fixing this. There is no smaller budget. It's abolish or out the door. Just like I will advocate against ANY candidate that votes to approve this latest budget that funds ICE.
I am more than willing to shut down the government to abolish ICE
If you find ice you support them kicking down doors without a warrant and shooting innocent people in the face with no consequences.

There is no other interpretation or opinion.

Cirsium

(3,664 posts)
112. No choice
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 02:54 PM
Jan 22

Of course everyone here will vote Democratic. There is no other option. The leadership depends upon that, they take us for granted.

The debate here is between those who think the rank and file should represent and fight for the interests of the leaders, and those who think the leaders should represent and fight for the interests of the rank and file.

"If we all get in lockstep behind the leaders, we win" is the thinking. But the opposite is true. When the leaders get behind the have-nots, then we win.

Of course a lot depends upon whom one sees as this "we" who will be doing the winning. When the wealthy, when the consultants, fund raisers, media moguls and talking heads, pod casters, pollsters, et al win, the rest of us lose. Unless one is waiting for that "trickle down" idea to finally take hold.

Johonny

(25,748 posts)
16. They are good back room leaders, not charismatic
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 08:24 AM
Jan 22

Leaders. In the age of TicToc clips, you need a charismatic leader that is good at 30 second sound bits. Democrats need to find and get those people out. They don't need to be house or senate leadership, but they sure should be your number 2. And they need to be our there constantly. Trump is a daily circus.

dalton99a

(92,821 posts)
20. We will win - because victory will come to us in due time - if we pray hard and wait long enough.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:03 AM
Jan 22

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Meanwhile, hold your fire until the stars are perfectly aligned



dalton99a

(92,821 posts)
62. Well, God did outlast Hitler and He will outlast Trump.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 10:15 AM
Jan 22

Our prayers will be answered in the order received. Eventually.



Autumn

(48,866 posts)
131. I don't remember god climbing down off his throne to help the people the Nazis murdered.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 05:02 PM
Jan 22

I'm not about to hold my breath to get him to come down off his fucking throne to help American and the immigrants they are killing.

Javaman

(65,409 posts)
25. in a time when we are surrounded by madness...
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:20 AM
Jan 22

cool heads are always appreciated, but absence is not.

one would think, as leaders of the dems they would have a few things to say to counter the orange asshole, but alas.

time for fresh outlooks and energy.

betsuni

(28,888 posts)
26. Ah, the magic fighting spirit press conference that Americans huddled 'round the TV like in the '60s
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:20 AM
Jan 22

will all see and believe and be inspired by and finally, finally, Trump and the GOP will be exposed and stopped.

ColoringFool

(427 posts)
37. Well, There WAS That "I Have A Dream" Speech. Plus,...
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:32 AM
Jan 22

There WERE the "Pentagon Papers" that a hero like Daniel Ellsberg could replicate today with the "Epstein Files."

But faint heart ne'er won democracy.

Abstractartist

(430 posts)
29. IMO
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:22 AM
Jan 22

In my opinion, when the democrats retake the house and maybe senate? Not sure on senate, but anyway, when this happens, the new majority should NOT elect Jefferies speaker and Schumer as minority leader. These two leaders have shown that they are NOT leaders when we need them to be NOW. Not when it’s convenient. AOC would make a phenomenal leader, and I’d like to see Mark Kelly or Amy Klobuchar as minority lead in the Senate. Time for change….

4bonhoffer

(163 posts)
32. I agree. BUT
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:26 AM
Jan 22

Democratic messaging has to get better, but remember, and I tend to forget this, the progressive caucus in the house hold press, conferences almost every day, and it is never covered by the mainstream media.
Republican press conferences almost always get covered.

ColoringFool

(427 posts)
39. Then Our Guys Need To Actually CHALLENGE THE MEDIA, DARE THEM TO ...
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:36 AM
Jan 22

Cover the Democrats! Say into the microphones, "Hey, networks! Televise THIS! What are you afraid of? Has Trump 'grabbed' you?"

Response to Chasstev365 (Original post)

Cirsium

(3,664 posts)
114. There is a legitimate disagreement
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 03:00 PM
Jan 22

There is a legitimate disagreement being discussed here, and calling the opinions of those with whom you disagree "whining and bashing" is divisive.

murielm99

(32,817 posts)
121. I don't much care for
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 03:09 PM
Jan 22

Bernie Sanders and AOC. If I say one word against them, I get all sorts of pushback. I have had posts deleted because I criticized them. But turnabout is not fair play, I guess. I see too much groupthink here. When I see it, I am going to point it out.

betsuni

(28,888 posts)
152. Makes me appreciate and support Democrats all the more!
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 07:16 PM
Jan 22

This is not the place to come to learn about the Democratic Party.

LittleGirl

(8,973 posts)
41. Absolutely
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:44 AM
Jan 22

Where are they? How about former leaders? Where are they? I used to hear that Ds were feckless and I didn’t think that. Now? I’m so disappointed in anyone coming up and speaking out. I have to see Adam Mockler or Leigh The Politics Girl make great points instead. Come on! Our best voices are influencers? Sheesh. What have we done?

LR3

(150 posts)
42. I don't think seeing them wobble around is going to be very inspiring
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:46 AM
Jan 22

Milquetoast doesn't win a lot of elections.

Gallego has the right approach--call the insane MFer an insane MFer. All that our current leaders will be able to muster is bland admonishments, at best.

Joinfortmill

(20,499 posts)
47. Should be out there every DAMN DAY, especially Jefferies
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:53 AM
Jan 22

I love Nancy Pelosi, she was a rock star, but Jefferies? WTF, woman?

QueerDuck

(1,224 posts)
50. Good grief. 🙄🥱
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:56 AM
Jan 22
Demanding that our leadership have public temper tantrums helps nothing. If they're not paying attention to Trump, then they won't be paying attention to Democratic temper tantrums behind a lectern. Even if they did comply with these demands, it would change nothing.

Let them do their jobs and instead complain that the media isn't doing their job. Or, spread the word yourself rather than blaming everything on "lazy" Democrats or "do-nothing" Democrats or "fearful" Democrats.

I'm sure it feels good for some people to have convenient targets to blame for everything, but I assure you that it's not the Democrats and it's not Democratic leadership. Posts like that are divisive and counterproductive.

Cirsium

(3,664 posts)
115. Pot meet kettle
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 03:02 PM
Jan 22

"I'm sure it feels good for some people to have convenient targets to blame for everything."

That is exactly what you are doing.

Cirsium

(3,664 posts)
154. No thanks
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 07:20 PM
Jan 22

I appreciate the invitation, but in this case past results definitely do predict future performance. Good faith would be necessary.

betsuni

(28,888 posts)
159. New definition of "divisive": supporting Democrats.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 08:01 PM
Jan 22

The caricature of a corrupt and immoral Democratic Party that must be taken over and transformed because the true roadblock to progress. This is so obvious that everyone must see it. If you don't you're the enemy too, the posse, the swarm, THEM.

Why the emotional lashing out. I blame the creator of this monster who is still hard at demonizing liberal Democrats for imaginary reasons and taking zero responsibility for anything (easy when you don't actually do anything except blame others).

Tadpole Raisin

(1,977 posts)
53. Timid gets us every other election when we should be
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:58 AM
Jan 22

winning them hand over fist all the time. I think they should be out there more but I also don’t think they are capable of it. It is not in their political DNA.

As proof I’m reminded of Schumer standing at a podium not too long ago chanting “We will win, We will win!”

Please….

JBTaurus83

(991 posts)
56. I'm very proud of we the people
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 10:07 AM
Jan 22

And our responsive reps standing up. What I could say about these two and their supporters would get me banned I’m sure.

68. Not a Cuomo fan, but I appreciated his daily pressers during Covid
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 10:29 AM
Jan 22

And sure, it was a fair amount of self-aggrandizement, but I felt like it was a welcome counter to Trump’s bleach-injecting lunacy.

hay rick

(9,454 posts)
65. When your enemy is making a mistake, don't interrupt him.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 10:19 AM
Jan 22

Everything that Trump and his sycophants are currently doing is getting negative and shocked coverage in the media. Let the media, which has so often defaulted to complicity, be the messengers. A Schumer or Jeffries press conference would be an opportunity to shift narratives away from Minneapolis, ICE, Greenland, Canada, NATO, etc.

justaprogressive

(6,578 posts)
70. Would you feel this same way
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 10:38 AM
Jan 22

If YOU were in a concentration camp?

I think not!

I've got a better quote for you:

“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

hay rick

(9,454 posts)
77. It looks to me like Sun Tzu agrees with me (and himself since I borrowed his point).
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 11:10 AM
Jan 22

"Let your plans be dark and impenetrable" does not sound like an argument for holding a press conference.

On your hypothetical question about being in a concentration camp- I would not be looking for press conferences, I would be looking for the intervention of allied bombers and soldiers.

yellow dahlia

(5,202 posts)
76. So many topics to cover. Unambiguous topics!
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 11:06 AM
Jan 22

My observation is - they still think they can skulk to the side and wait for the R's to implode, so they can pick up the pieces in the midterms.

OneGrassRoot

(23,936 posts)
78. I think leadership and the consultant class...
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 11:13 AM
Jan 22

are making a HUGE mistake by assuming people turning away from Trump and the GOP means they will turn toward Democrats. More and more people are disgusted because they don’t see anyone fighting hard and consistently for them, so they may ditch voting altogether even more than they have been lately.

usonian

(24,099 posts)
79. Morning rant. TALK IS CHEAP. Show me the action.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 11:15 AM
Jan 22

Not blaming Chuck, but if he treated Trump like he was the rerun of Adolph Hitler (which he is) he would have strapped on a dynamite vest (or ketchup vest) to prevent ACB's confirmation and the BallBusterBill that enabled all this crap.

He did!



Chuck?




OK. so he didn't have the leverage, but he could have brought up Epstein, the cause of every bit of destruction you see since Jan 2025.

Sighted Achilles heel, Ignored it.

Quanto Magnus

(1,315 posts)
85. It is sad
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 12:14 PM
Jan 22

that we have such weak leadership in the Dem party right now....

Quite frankly (IMO) that's part of why Trump has managed to get so far in his fascist takeover.....

Sternly worded letters or press conferences won't have any effect on the Nazis....

Scubamatt

(271 posts)
86. If we are to win the midterms
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 12:15 PM
Jan 22

We are going to to have to have a blue tsunami, given all the vote suppression/vote stealing the cons are putting in place as we type this. You do not energize the average person who does not marinate in politics to take time away from their regular lives to go vote, by being silent. If folks don't see what you stand for, their attitude is "why bother." You have to energize them and lead them. Sitting around doing nothing except blasting the rank and file with hundreds of texts and emails asking for contributions is a sure recipe for losing.

danieljsf

(13 posts)
87. It's a losing strategy to be quiet and timid
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 12:45 PM
Jan 22

Democrats are not exactly rallying voters to their side by hiding and letting the monsters rule the day. Yes, people are tiring of Trump but they also say that they have no faith in the Democratic party because it stands for nothing other than "We aren't Trump." Stand up for something and speak out against what is happening, for God's sake.

flashman13

(2,216 posts)
89. Au contraire , They want to talk about bipartisanship to solve the affordability crisis.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 01:10 PM
Jan 22

Insert thingy here.

Not just Schumer and Jefferies, but dozens of Democrats everyday hammering the MAGAts' miscreant deeds. They should start every press gaggle by reminding everyone that Trump is mad as a hatter.

W_HAMILTON

(10,237 posts)
91. Ironic that as Jeffries is giving a press conference right now, no one here is talking about it.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 01:31 PM
Jan 22

Maybe those that wanted a press conference so badly can start a live thread here now to discuss it?

PS - Is the fascist threat to our country over with now that Jeffries has held his first press conference since his last one a week or two ago?

LudwigPastorius

(14,376 posts)
97. "Maybe those that wanted a press conference so badly can start a live thread here now to discuss it?"
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 01:52 PM
Jan 22

No.

The criticism will now switch to, "Why don't they do something besides just talk!11!! We want action! We want FiGhTeRz!!!".

BaronChocula

(4,180 posts)
109. Hear, hear
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 02:42 PM
Jan 22


I personally don't know how Jeffries and Schumer fill their days. I don't expect them to come out daily and assure me that they feel my feels. I defer to them what strategies work best for the long-run. For some reason I've been seeing expectations of Schumer that even Harry Reid couldn't achieve. And he was a master.

Just because you don't know what someone is doing doesn't mean they aren't doing anything.

betsuni

(28,888 posts)
148. Then it's "Finally breaking their silence" -- they totally want a press conference, just not THAT press conference.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 06:52 PM
Jan 22

QueerDuck

(1,224 posts)
182. Exactly right. Next it will be "all they do is whine and complain at press conferences" along with...
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 05:27 AM
Jan 23

... "why don't they DO SOMETHING?!?" (Maybe a "sternly written letter" will help to appease their loudest and harshest critics, eh?)

Oh, wait. Never mind.

senseandsensibility

(24,401 posts)
102. Two things can be true at once
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 02:11 PM
Jan 22

Dems should have held a press conference that was targeted on the facts you describe YESTERDAY when the situation was unfolding in Davos. Today is too late. The press has moved on; they missed the moment. It is also true that there is no guarantee it will be covered, at least not as well as we would wish. Still. they have to try.

malthaussen

(18,477 posts)
122. Probably keeping their powder dry.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 03:13 PM
Jan 22

Its what the Democrats do best.

Maybe if they switched to more modern firearms they wouldn't have that problem.

-- Mal

samsingh

(18,321 posts)
126. that's why we are not in power. trump would have been spouting crap and lies, but he
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 03:50 PM
Jan 22

would be having news conferences.

where are our leaders?

North Coast Lawyer

(245 posts)
128. Spineless! Useless!
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 04:52 PM
Jan 22

Our Democratic leadership has proved over and over again that they are both spineless and useless.

We need new leadership who are not afraid to fight. Now is the time for bold action -- not another strongly worded letter.

DJ Synikus Makisimus

(1,260 posts)
158. But then they'd have to take a position on something.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 07:45 PM
Jan 22

That might turn the Party into an opposition that doesn't work together with the FRIENDS across the aisle.* Could endanger the bipartisanship they've worked SO hard for, not to mention all that free speech from Wall Street free speech manufacturers.

-------------------------------
* for the most recent example of wondrous bipartisanship, see: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220959969

regnaD kciN

(27,541 posts)
162. They learned their triangulation from the best...
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 08:26 PM
Jan 22


Do nothing while in opposition, and then, when midterms come along, present yourselves as The Reasonable Centrist Alternative and tell progressives “Heh, heh, heh…who else are you gonna vote for?”



FoxNewsSucks

(11,546 posts)
169. Exactly. And as one of those liberals
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:37 PM
Jan 22

whose vote is taken for granted, I"M FUCKING SICK OF IT.

I want to vote FOR someone, someone who will act, and speak up. An AOC, a Jasmine Crockett, and a handful of others. Not just vote AGAINST republicon scum.

flamingdem

(40,828 posts)
165. Clear from this thread that nobody knows
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:11 PM
Jan 22

what the best course of action actually is.

But things DO look good for November.

Scrivener7

(58,875 posts)
167. Oh, dear. Someone suggested that the leadership do more in the face of the existential crisis
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:28 PM
Jan 22

our country faces.

So of course the posse has arrived to call that "bashing Democrats."

And they brought their pet sea lion.

I know, I know, Garland's got this, right guys?

VGuerra276

(83 posts)
174. Exactly
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 11:06 PM
Jan 22

And then you have lame Cory Booker stating LICE AGENTS need more training! Dems should be giving daily press releases about the daily atrocities, and all we hear is crickets. SO SICK OF THIS S#IT.

flying-skeleton

(813 posts)
175. Schumer and Jeffries are passive pushovers
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 12:00 AM
Jan 23

Schumer and Jeffries don't have balls.
Never had. Never will. Always playing catchup with their panties tied in knots.

Bread and Circuses

(1,757 posts)
177. Bravo!
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 12:30 AM
Jan 23

I’m hoping that it’s allowed for the discussion of high level representatives now.

We can point out the shortcomings, mistakes, and disappointments and still be a strong supporter of the overall policies of the Party.

I feel that these two leaders need to step aside.

Seat warmers.

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