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Ol Janx Spirit

(774 posts)
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:57 AM 8 hrs ago

Twenty-Fifth Amendment? America, we have a problem....

I know; I know, it is very popular to call for the 25th Amendment right now. How could anyone--including the Cabinet and Republicans in Congress--not see the obvious incapacitation of this lunatic? Right?

Well, unfortunately, it turns out that barring real incapacitation--and we are talking confined to a hospital bed on a ventilator with little machines around the room beeping out of sync incapacitation--it is easier to impeach a president than it is to remove them by the 25th Amendment--and that is really by design.

It is understandable: if the vice president and a majority of the Cabinet could simply decide to overthrow the duly-elected president it would open the U.S. up to a bloodless-coup by a small number of very well-connected people. We really do not want that to happen.

There are 26 members of the Cabinet: the vice president, 15 department heads, and 10 Cabinet-level officials. So, the vice president and 13 Cabinet members could conspire to take over power and make it happen. As we all know: that is not really how things work in the U.S. And, with all of the money our politics are awash in nowadays, this could be a very lucrative proposition for such a small number of people in a position to wield that sort of power.

So what is to stop these 14 rogue actors from simply throwing the sitting president out of office?

Congress--of course.

Basically, the VP and Cabinet send a letter that the president is incapacitated; if the president is able, he or she sends a letter saying oh no I'm not; and then Congress gets to decide by a two-thirds vote of both houses who leads the country in light of these dueling positions:

"Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office."

In the world in which we currently exist, there is no way that two-thirds of both houses are going to vote to remove a president even as flawed as the one we have now.

Impeachment is actually an easier task, and we all know how likely THAT is to be successful.

So, unless the Orange Abomination becomes unable to produce "his written declaration that no inability exists"--which despite all of the angst about his current mental state he would be clearly capable of doing--the 25th Amendment is not the Amendment you're looking for.

So, help us black spot/blood clot...you're our only hope....

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Twenty-Fifth Amendment? America, we have a problem.... (Original Post) Ol Janx Spirit 8 hrs ago OP
Well reasoned, Ravenclaw LearnedHand 8 hrs ago #1
POTUS JD Vance? and then..........................? IA8IT 8 hrs ago #2
In respect for the care trump receives medically. Omnipresent 8 hrs ago #3
That is not our 'only' hope. OldBaldy1701E 7 hrs ago #4
His cabinet is more likely to continue the fawning and sycophantic behavior towards Trump Redleg 7 hrs ago #5

Omnipresent

(7,329 posts)
3. In respect for the care trump receives medically.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 10:14 AM
8 hrs ago

The “Useful Idiots” turn out to be the medical staff that treats him.
They are dedicated and well trained to keep him as healthy as they can.
I just wish they would make a mistake.

Redleg

(6,842 posts)
5. His cabinet is more likely to continue the fawning and sycophantic behavior towards Trump
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 10:36 AM
7 hrs ago

than they are to criticize him in public. After his failures at Davos, Trump will need his cabinet to prop up his fragile ego.

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