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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe more i think about the 8th circuit court decision, i feel ICE
Can go into any state and completely take control of all state laws or regulations, states have no rights, just like Minnesota, am i right?
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The more i think about the 8th circuit court decision, i feel ICE (Original Post)
bluestarone
14 hrs ago
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Well i would have thought, no way can the state not be able to get these thugs for breaking
bluestarone
13 hrs ago
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Gaugamela
(3,311 posts)1. From: University of Wisconsin Law School
Explainer: Can States Prosecute Federal Officials?
https://statedemocracy.law.wisc.edu/featured/2025/explainer-can-states-prosecute-federal-officials/
Violation of constitutional rights is grounds for state prosecution of federal officers.
As state and local officials increasingly clash with federal officials over immigration enforcement,[1] policing of protests,[2] and much more,[3] they could soon turn to a long-used tactic of state pushback: prosecuting federal agents or officials for violations of state laws.[4]
This practice stretches back to at least the early 1800s, and it comes with a mixed track record. Some state prosecutions of federal actors are relatively non-controversial, like charging postal workers for reckless driving while on the job.[5] Others involve core disputes between states and the federal government, including on desegregation,[6] slavery,[7] and prohibition.[8]
The bottom line is that states are legally permitted to prosecute federal officials for state crimeswithin limits. The limits stem from the federal constitutional principle that states should not be able to undermine federal policy via targeted criminal prosecutions, a doctrine known as Supremacy Clause immunity.[9] But this principle only applies when federal officials are reasonably acting within the bounds of their lawful federal duties.[10] When federal officials act beyond the scope of their duties, violate federal law, or behave in an egregious or unwarranted manner, state prosecutions can move forward. Even where charges are ultimately dismissed, states have occasionally used prosecutions as a form of pushback against controversial federal actions.
This practice stretches back to at least the early 1800s, and it comes with a mixed track record. Some state prosecutions of federal actors are relatively non-controversial, like charging postal workers for reckless driving while on the job.[5] Others involve core disputes between states and the federal government, including on desegregation,[6] slavery,[7] and prohibition.[8]
The bottom line is that states are legally permitted to prosecute federal officials for state crimeswithin limits. The limits stem from the federal constitutional principle that states should not be able to undermine federal policy via targeted criminal prosecutions, a doctrine known as Supremacy Clause immunity.[9] But this principle only applies when federal officials are reasonably acting within the bounds of their lawful federal duties.[10] When federal officials act beyond the scope of their duties, violate federal law, or behave in an egregious or unwarranted manner, state prosecutions can move forward. Even where charges are ultimately dismissed, states have occasionally used prosecutions as a form of pushback against controversial federal actions.
https://statedemocracy.law.wisc.edu/featured/2025/explainer-can-states-prosecute-federal-officials/
Violation of constitutional rights is grounds for state prosecution of federal officers.
bluestarone
(21,398 posts)2. Well i would have thought, no way can the state not be able to get these thugs for breaking
City and state regulations, BUT I see none of this happening in Minnesota?
Gaugamela
(3,311 posts)3. Both the Philly DA and Philly Sheriff issued warnings to ICE
Philadelphia DA warning to ICE
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UBjZ-g7YwkI
Philadelphia Sheriff Rochelle Bilal Issues Blunt Warning To ICE After Renee Goods Killing
Wicked Blue
(8,563 posts)4. And kill with impunity nt
bluestarone
(21,398 posts)5. for sure!
vapor2
(3,950 posts)6. This isn't a final ruling by the 8th circuit is it??
bluestarone
(21,398 posts)7. I understand that.
So we wait a week, a month, a year? THAT'S THE PROBLEM!! It's just like that IS the rule as of today AND TOMORROW!