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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCongressman Raja Krishnamoorthi just lost my vote for the Illinois Democratic US Senate primary
One of 9 Democrats who voted with Republicans to hold the Clintons in contempt of Congress.
Mr.Krishnamoorthi:
Why would you give any credibility to the most partisan, corrupt Chairman in the House, James Comer (R) Bumpkiville KY? This is the man who ignores ALL TRUMP/GOP corruption and spent millions of our tax dollars investigating HUNTER BIDEN!
How could you vote to hold the Clintons in comtempt when, as they stated, the subpoenas are legally invalid?
Why can't House Democrats ever vote unanimously as a sign of unity against GOP Bull Shit?
If you want to be a US Senator so badly that you've sold your soul as to not offend downstate Red Republicans, who were never going to vote for you in the first place, I really question your moral compass. Do you really think 9 months from now a voter will say, "Naw, I won't vote for Raja because he voted NOT to hold the Clintons in contempt."
If you are only relying on the advice of Skippy your DC pollster/advisor, maybe you so make your own decisions.
I will hold my nose and vote for you in the general election over any Republican if you are the nominee (maybe that is part of your calculus) but you've lost my confidence as an elected leader.
sop
(17,682 posts)(Edited to add) Current polling results for Illinois U.S. Senate Democratic primary:
https://emersoncollegepolling.com/illinois-2026-poll-krishamoorthi-leads-democratic-senate-primary-plurality-still-undecided/
rpannier
(24,855 posts)and who to vote for.
Will also be letting Krishnamoorthi's campaign know not to contact me again
mopinko
(73,347 posts)tho i also like stratton.
Paladin
(32,354 posts)Krishnamoorthi---along with the 7 Democratic representatives who OK'd another $10 billion for ICE atrocities, yesterday---have a hell of a lot to answer for. Everybody keep a list, for future reference.
Javaman
(65,249 posts)they care more about being reelected than doing what's right.
GiqueCee
(3,500 posts)I fear that's their only concern, though I hope I'm wrong.
Christ, this bullshit is exhausting.
lees1975
(6,934 posts)I think the corruption has pushed us too far beyond being able to actually restore American Democracy. Until that is taken out of campaigns, a level playing field is established, citizens united is repealed and campaign spending is capped at a low level, nest-feathering and self-interest protection will be what candidates spend their time doing, and they won't care about what we are about. It's been painfully obvious that few Democrats are leading out in the resistance to Trump, that's all grass roots. They will benefit from it, but I think there are some independent candidates emerging who aren't going to seek the party's money or endorsements, but will be completely committed to its alleged values.
Sun-Moon
(239 posts)With 7 democrats voting for funding of ICE.
😞
GiqueCee
(3,500 posts)... their membership in the human race is hereby cancelled. How could anyone with an ounce of decency vote to support those monsters?!!?
Martin Eden
(15,399 posts)Where does he get all the money? Even if he's using his personal wealth, it looks like he's trying to buy a Senate seat.
Still reserving judgment on that aspect of it though, since I had the same thought about JB Ptitzger as Illinois governor.
justhanginon
(3,378 posts)He seems to be an anomaly in the greedy arrogant billionaire group and in my opinion has done a good job as governor. At this point I would have no problem voting for him for the presidency should he run.
Chasstev365
(7,256 posts)Martin Eden
(15,399 posts)He said he welcomes their hatred, and referred to them as "the malefactors of great wealth."
pecosbob
(8,330 posts)Clouds Passing
(7,216 posts)Attilatheblond
(8,397 posts)Bill and Hillary are smarter than the lot of 'em and are probably laughing the GOP plus some fell into their trap. Now the GOP plus will have to deal with Discovery or admit it was an empty threat.
Well played, Clintons!
Jose Garcia
(3,444 posts)Attilatheblond
(8,397 posts)Will enjoy reading more of your posts around here.
Callie1979
(1,189 posts)I've heard this before with other situations; "Go ahead discovery will be interesting!"
So what discovery would there be for a contempt charge?
Attilatheblond
(8,397 posts)They wanted Clintons to testify about association with Epstein, and Clintons declined, so the whole of the files could be involved. Clintons are taking one for the team and forcing the GOP's hand
Sparkly
(24,849 posts)Both already offered sworn depositions offering everything they knew, answering all pertinent questions, as written testimony. They just KNOW that a group of MAGAts are like salivating cartoon wolves, eager to sink their teeth into abject nonsense with idiotic questions like, "And were you alone that night?"... "ALL night???" ... "You seem to find that question to be funny, why is it amusing to you?" (Paraphrasing from an actual inquiry to Sec. Clinton during a long Benghazi piece of Republican political theatre.)
Chasstev365
(7,256 posts)Reps. Maxwell Frost of Florida,
Summer Lee of Pennsylvania,
Emily Randall of Washington,
Lateefah Simon of California,
Melanie Stansbury of New Mexico
Rashida Tlaib of Michigan,
Stephen Lynch Massachusetts
Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts
GiqueCee
(3,500 posts)... exempt from re-election concerns in the midterms? Unless the Clintons are, in fact, playing 3-D chess while Comer and his idiot cohorts are playing tiddly-winks, one would have no choice but to question their judgement and their character. This is a fight to the death to preserve democracy, NOT a fucking game of chance in which they stand to make some bank by betting on Red.
Pardon my cynicism, but I'm finding it harder and harder to trust anyone in D.C. these days.
AZ8theist
(7,118 posts)..I share them.
W_HAMILTON
(10,158 posts)And this is the House, so all of them are up for reelection during the midterms.
JustAnotherGen
(37,686 posts)She hates HRC.
betsuni
(28,810 posts)National fundraising might be affected. Thought Krishnamoorthi was connected with JD, but I guess not.
JustAnotherGen
(37,686 posts)Tlaib though?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/01/politics/rashida-tlaib-boos-clinton-sanders
She offered a non-apology apology. So I know she's gonna sit in Congress for the rest of her life . . .
But she "not like" us.
She has HER red lines and principles
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/02/rashida-tlaib-decline-endorsement-kamala-harris
I have mine. I'm also an elected Democratic Official so I should be given the same grace she is to not endorse or be a disappointed in another Democrat.
What is allowed for one of us must be allowed for all.
ETA - I'm running again and agreeing with her would put my own election in jeopardy.
betsuni
(28,810 posts)Mz Pip
(28,370 posts)Now theres a surprise. Shes my Congresswoman. She was elected after Barbara Lee retired. Id really like to hear her justification. I cant imagine that will go over well in Berkeley and Oakland.
iemanja
(57,516 posts)wtf?
Jack Valentino
(4,509 posts)what the everlasting FUCK!!!!
Scrivener7
(58,570 posts)WOLFMAN87
(57 posts)As an IL democrat I was a fan of Raja, but now I'm having second thoughts.
Dick Durbin has been a wet noodle trying to stand up to the corrupt, murdering, lying, cheating, aggressive, war mongering, bullying, ally destroying embarrassment of an administration.
Will Raja follow Dick & write stern letters & speak in monotones at press conferences? His commercials say he's a fighter, but appeasing down state repubs is not what we need in a senator when the nation is fighting ice in the streets.
Chasstev365
(7,256 posts)Jose Garcia
(3,444 posts)If that were the case, why don't the Clintons go to court and make that argument by requesting an injunction?
I believe that there is a lot of potential for setting a precedent here. I like the idea of a future Democratic controlled House subpoenaing Trump in 2029.
LudwigPastorius
(14,299 posts)Hard to know exactly what the 9 are thinking, but it did occur to me that they might be trying to preserve their Congressional subpoena power.
Considering how the GOP congress critters have bent over for Trump and ceded oversight, funding, war powers, etc. etc. etc., maybe these Dems are trying to maintain a little independence for their branch of government in the face of concerted Trumpist erosion.
Or, I could be totally wrong.
murielm99
(32,755 posts)Then some joker asked if I was basing my decision on just one vote, or if I was not voting at all. I told him that I had already circulated a nominating petition for Stratton.
I am supporting Stratton. She has Pritzker's endorsement, and that is good enough for me. Quite a few people are running.
At first, I was worried about Pritzker. Another billionaire?
He worked hard for the job and he won me over. He uses his wealth for good. His campaign was self-financed.
He has gotten our finances back on track. It will take a long time to fix everything, but he is working on it.
His family has contributed a lot to Northwestern U. They have contributed a lot to the Holocaust Museum.
His behavior during the pandemic was stellar. Above all, he stands up to trump.
MaineNative
(78 posts)What is even more puzzling is our D2 Rep here in Maine is not running again, so he decided it was a okay to jump ship, fondle the GOP taint, and vote for DHS funding even while the ICE goons are up here conducting "Catch of the Day" kidnapping citizens or asylum seekers in the citizenship process.
The Paper of note, the Portland Press Herald, has basically shut down the comments section for all ICE articles. I am so f-ing burning mad at all of this. I was raised by a WWII veteran who nearly gave his life to fight scum like this. I served 18 years, including active duty in the AF, AFR, DOD, and FAA. I am screaming!
I am canceling my Hilton Diamond Honors and Enterprise accounts, and I refuse to shop at Home Depot or Target. When will this end?
samsingh
(18,283 posts)Chicagogrl1
(621 posts)samsingh
(18,283 posts)the rules are only applied to democrats and people like him are okay with living in a tiny bubble
i'm so disgusted
the_liberal_grandpa
(274 posts)I got Fettermaned in the last elextion and therefore am unlikely to donate to any Democratic politiicans this year but rather to organizations that are actually fighting to make the country better.
David Hogg's Leaders We Deserve is a good one as they are fighting to primary Democrats that do the kind of crap
we are talking about here.
https://leaderswedeserve.com/
The ACLU is another organization to donate to as they are the ones out front fighting for our freedoms and for fair elections
https://www.aclu.org/action
lees1975
(6,934 posts)I'm a long time donor to Democratic candidates, in every state where I've lived, as well as to the DNC, but I cancelled all of that after 2024. What I have to give is a typical small amount, but it all goes to David Hogg's Leaders We Deserve now. We might as well shut the DNC down for all the good it does, and better pay close attention to the money trail to every candidate.
mysteryowl
(8,370 posts)kacekwl
(8,927 posts)on the list of those who voted for more ICE funding.
Sympthsical
(10,877 posts)Who do not share the same . . . deferential posturing towards the Old Guard and its past scandals.
And that's putting it as diplomatically as possible. If DU thinks Gen Z lawmakers are going to crouch into a 90s position on this stuff, well, they're misreading the room (just as younger voters were misread in 2024). They don't care who it is. You're associated with Epstein in any way, they'll be happy to watch it burn.
Pelosi trying to dress down someone like Maxwell Frost is not going to hit the way people think, and the fact people aren't recognizing this generational change is to our electoral detriment.
I do not think giving Comer what he wants is generally a good idea. Comer is not interested in being agreeable or simply finding truth. There is ever his agenda. But, I can't say I don't get the younger Democrats' mindset here. It's not the 1990s anymore. It's not even the 2010's anymore.
Younger Democrats aren't going to defer. Best wrap heads around that one now and save some pain later.
flashman13
(2,139 posts)live love laugh
(16,218 posts)ancianita
(43,065 posts)Chasstev365
(7,256 posts)Lemon Lyman
(1,559 posts)Living in eastern Iowa, I keep seeing commercials for him. They're about how he blocked a grocery chain merger to save jobs.
I don't get to vote for him where I live. Turns out I wouldn't vote for him if I could.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(13,142 posts)lees1975
(6,934 posts)And this Chicago Illinois lifelong Democrat will NOT vote for him and I don't mind saying so. And I am against putting in anyone out of Durbin's orbit. Too old school, and Durbin doesn't really seem to get it that there is no compromise with MAGA or Trump.
More than likely, Jiliana Stratton will get my vote, but I'm also looking at some more radical possibilities, like Jonathan Dean, or Awisi Quartey Bustos.
The Bopper
(283 posts)That the Clinton's can force release of the Epstein files to their attorney if they are actually charged. Method---madness but leads to the ultimate goal..