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DJ Synikus Makisimus

(1,261 posts)
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:04 PM Jan 24

What Will the Democratic Party Establishment Do in the Aftermath of Another I.C.E. Murder?

Clearly we need a “strong response” from our leadership. Repeated calls to be “calm” in the face of a second gestapo murder have already been issued by the Minneapolis Police and other authorities, so the phase one response has been activated. Expected phase two responses of tots and pears are likely forthcoming soon. One can but wonder what response will come from the Democratic Party leadership. Will Democratic Party leaders maximize this to electoral advantage by:

1. writing a strongly-worded letter?
2. holding hearings where members can demonstrate their outrage through grandstanding?
3. move to enact a bipartisan non-binding resolution calling for calm?
4. call for increases to the Homeland Security budget to fund “sensitivity training” for I.C.E. officers?
5. locking the office door and hiding under their desks?

Bipartisan this, Chuck and Hakeem.

Meanwhile, I wonder how the behavior of their “heroic” I.C.E. officers is playing in red AmeriKKKa. I’d tune in to fascist media, but I just ate.

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What Will the Democratic Party Establishment Do in the Aftermath of Another I.C.E. Murder? (Original Post) DJ Synikus Makisimus Jan 24 OP
Have two of the least charismatic, most out of touch people on earth read prepared statements RockRaven Jan 24 #1
Your guess is good as mine. Maybe a short statement about how terrible it was to murder an unarmed man, Autumn Jan 24 #2
They will start a "Select Committee" to determine if we should empanel a review Ars Longa Jan 24 #35
I think a "Select Committee" to issue a report on ICE in about 9 or 10 months would be too much work. Autumn Jan 24 #48
Not anything that will matter a damn. choie Jan 24 #3
Yes, it is very important that DU blame Democrats for what Republicans do /s emulatorloo Jan 24 #4
Did you ever think that if the Democrats actually opened their mouths choie Jan 24 #8
They open their mouths all the time. Media too busy propping up Trump to report on Democrats. emulatorloo Jan 24 #10
That's BS choie Jan 24 #13
No it's not bullshit. And Walz is a Democrat and he called in the National Guard. emulatorloo Jan 24 #17
Do you mean Governor Walz? Bettie Jan 24 #18
I'm clearly talking about choie Jan 24 #37
' Senate Democrats come out against DHS funding after Minnesota shooting' emulatorloo Jan 24 #69
Some people here would blame democrats Boo1 Jan 24 #72
One of the better voices, in my opinion is Chris van Hollen. He was on MSNOW, earlier. yellow dahlia Jan 24 #81
I''d be really excited to see Democratic outrage coming from house or senate members lees1975 Jan 24 #30
If people are truly upset then they are already supporting Democrats JI7 Jan 24 #23
Repeat a thousand times. kacekwl Jan 24 #47
Rep. Seth Moulton (D-Mass) called for ?curent ICE head to be ptosecuted. electric_blue68 Jan 24 #66
Bye orangecrush Jan 24 #9
Hi! emulatorloo Jan 24 #11
"Third Way" strategy has been to avoid taking a position on anything. DJ Synikus Makisimus Jan 24 #12
Third Way died in the '90s. But apparently false bothsiderism is alive and well emulatorloo Jan 24 #19
The hell it did. choie Jan 24 #39
Jeffries REFUSED to whip the vote against funding these monsters Arazi Jan 24 #49
WRONG!!!!!! Jesus H Christ that shit gets OLD!!!! FoxNewsSucks Jan 24 #79
Or voting for the orange bastard's nominees choie Jan 24 #82
Jasmine Crockett doesn't do third way and she isn't getting support in Texas JI7 Jan 24 #25
And that means... choie Jan 24 #28
Ooh Third Way mcar Jan 24 #44
What a load of bullshit. Nobody is blaming Democrats for anything. If we can't count on our leaders Autumn Jan 24 #14
Seven of them just voted to fund the terrorist organization that killed the man. iemanja Jan 24 #15
Wonder if those seven are still proud of their bipartisanship? BlueKota Jan 24 #58
iemanja, how are you doing? I am so sorry all this is happening. Scrivener7 Jan 24 #85
The lust to blame, hate, and punish is palpable. betsuni Jan 24 #20
"Demonizing Democrats so they're seen as an evil non-human enemy" choie Jan 24 #31
Apparently, expecting them to come out against Bettie Jan 24 #62
You're right, Bettie choie Jan 24 #80
Shouldn't expect honesty from people who strawman people's positions SunImp Jan 24 #76
Respectfully, I think you are being a bit over the top on how some DU'rs are criticizing some Dems. electric_blue68 Jan 24 #67
Respectfully I'd like to see some criticism aimed at Noem and Miller. But crickets. See this response from Senate Dems emulatorloo Jan 24 #70
Noem, and especially Nazi loving Miller need ever more fierce criticism, and electric_blue68 Jan 24 #74
You're so right. There's a place in hell for all of them emulatorloo Jan 24 #75
Because Republicans are way way over the top extremist fascist monsters, people are dying. betsuni Jan 25 #86
Serveral things... electric_blue68 Jan 25 #87
The OP did not blame Democrats for what Republicans do. Just saying ... KPN Jan 24 #42
Sure did. Noem and Miller are to blame. Yet op instead focuses on Democrats emulatorloo Jan 24 #71
You are projecting. KPN Jan 24 #78
Nope. OP's projecting the Trump's Regime's atrocities onto Democrats. Aka Blaming Dems for what emulatorloo Jan 25 #89
That's BS. FoxNewsSucks Jan 24 #83
It is our duty as citizens to hold our elected officials' feet to the fire synni Jan 24 #46
Sternly worded letter and vote for more funding, most likely durablend Jan 24 #5
Write a strongly worded letter about the Harris/Walz administration's ICE policy, or give a press conference. betsuni Jan 24 #6
Publish a well-written letter for the round file, tweet something that nobody reads, make a speech to an empty chamber dalton99a Jan 24 #7
Nothing I fear SamuelTheThird Jan 24 #16
Don't wanna look "Soft on crime" either durablend Jan 24 #22
The perception of soft on crime is a problem. The right wing media's is full of stories JI7 Jan 24 #26
Right, so let's be cowards choie Jan 24 #41
Being tough on crime is part of fighting fort justice JI7 Jan 24 #60
That's what I read as to why those Dems did vote that way electric_blue68 Jan 24 #65
Right Wing media is full of stories of crimes by non white people JI7 Jan 24 #21
Newt Gingrich had press conferences practically every day during the '90s, I well remember. betsuni Jan 24 #32
Force Shutdown this week Eddie Haskell 60 Jan 24 #24
Both innocent white people kimbutgar Jan 24 #27
The whole point was supposed to be protecting us from murderers Easterncedar Jan 24 #29
Call for UN Peacekeeping forces Tim S Jan 24 #33
... leftstreet Jan 24 #36
I ask myself, 'what will I do in the aftermath...?' Torchlight Jan 24 #34
Fuck this noise! Just fuck it! maxrandb Jan 24 #38
This +1000! mcar Jan 24 #45
THANK YOU! betsuni Jan 24 #51
You nailed it. Thank you n/t emulatorloo Jan 24 #77
Thank you maxrandb Jan 27 #91
Hmmm Grim Chieftain Jan 24 #40
From AOC electric_blue68 Jan 24 #68
Can we stop with the "Dems suck" narrative for one day? mcar Jan 24 #43
Here is the leadership response: demmiblue Jan 24 #50
This is better than nothing. mr715 Jan 24 #57
That is more than I expected Bettie Jan 24 #63
Holding their powder for the midterms C_U_L8R Jan 24 #52
I've called the six i think JustAnotherGen Jan 24 #53
What exactly is it that you think those not in """the Establishment""" (tm) are doing to distinguish one from the other? W_HAMILTON Jan 24 #54
Expect a VERY sternly worded letter. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jan 24 #55
1. N/t gay texan Jan 24 #56
Nothing, of course... regnaD kciN Jan 24 #59
They support ICE. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 24 #61
Every democratic lawmaker in house senate and governor should be in Minnesota tomorrow. Srkdqltr Jan 24 #64
MSNOW: Senate Democrats come out against DHS funding after Minnesota shooting emulatorloo Jan 24 #73
We'll see if actually gets stopped. FoxNewsSucks Jan 24 #84
Idk....DJ S M. Perhaps you're being a bit too sarcastic?.... electric_blue68 Jan 25 #88
They're refusing to fund ICE Sparkly Jan 25 #90

RockRaven

(18,958 posts)
1. Have two of the least charismatic, most out of touch people on earth read prepared statements
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:11 PM
Jan 24

which won't even be broadcast on the news while the local elected Dems ... *checks notes*... preside over local LEOs who are attacking protesters too?

Ah, swell...

Autumn

(48,869 posts)
2. Your guess is good as mine. Maybe a short statement about how terrible it was to murder an unarmed man,
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:17 PM
Jan 24

then business as usual.

Ars Longa

(496 posts)
35. They will start a "Select Committee" to determine if we should empanel a review
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:20 PM
Jan 24

committee that would issue a report on ICE in about 9 or 10 months. Or perhaps
even longer!!

Autumn

(48,869 posts)
48. I think a "Select Committee" to issue a report on ICE in about 9 or 10 months would be too much work.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 05:08 PM
Jan 24

I'm going with an almost strongly worded, 30 words or less, semi condemnation will be the winner.

emulatorloo

(46,151 posts)
4. Yes, it is very important that DU blame Democrats for what Republicans do /s
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:38 PM
Jan 24

Especially with midterms coming up.

Because apparently DU wants to depress voter turnout by pounding home the bullshit message that Democrats must be PUNISHED

As That will help Republicans win and keep Republicans in power.

/s


choie

(6,802 posts)
8. Did you ever think that if the Democrats actually opened their mouths
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:43 PM
Jan 24

after a horror they might gain some voters? You know, like show some leadership? Stop with the usual canard of "you're blaming Democrats".

emulatorloo

(46,151 posts)
10. They open their mouths all the time. Media too busy propping up Trump to report on Democrats.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:45 PM
Jan 24

And DU too busy falsely blaming Democrats for what Republicans do to pay attention

emulatorloo

(46,151 posts)
17. No it's not bullshit. And Walz is a Democrat and he called in the National Guard.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:50 PM
Jan 24

I’m pissed off too but I’m pissed at ICE and Trump.

Bettie

(19,448 posts)
18. Do you mean Governor Walz?
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:54 PM
Jan 24

Or are you speaking of someone else?

Democratic Governors are standing up for their states.

emulatorloo

(46,151 posts)
69. ' Senate Democrats come out against DHS funding after Minnesota shooting'
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 08:56 PM
Jan 24
https://www.ms.now/news/senate-democrats-dhs-funding-minnesota-shooting

Now, key Democratic senators are publicly opposing any bill that would fund Immigration and Customs Enforcement without new restrictions, sharply increasing the odds of a partial government shutdown just days before the Jan. 30 deadline.

Play

New video appears to show federal agents shoving and spraying man before shooting
JANUARY 24, 2026 / 06:36
With less than a week to go before funding expires, days before the Senate is set to consider a six-bill appropriations package, and hours after Pretti was shot, top Democrats emerged Saturday vowing to block any additional money for ICE.

Most notably, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., announced Saturday night that he would oppose any government spending package that includes funding for DHS — a move that could derail the six-bill package covering the remaining agencies that have not yet been funded.

“What’s happening in Minnesota is appalling — and unacceptable in any American city. Democrats sought common sense reforms in the Department of Homeland Security spending bill, but because of Republicans’ refusal to stand up to President Trump, the DHS bill is woefully inadequate to rein in the abuses of ICE,” Schumer said in a statement. “I will vote no.”

Schumer added that Senate Democrats would not provide the votes needed to advance the appropriations package if it includes DHS funding — a dramatic reversal for a bill that had appeared on track to pass the Senate later this week.



Boo1

(238 posts)
72. Some people here would blame democrats
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:05 PM
Jan 24

if literal Martians invaded. It's their go to move.



But I will say, as far as a reaction....

Yesterday I thought there was almost no chance that there was going to be a shutdown. We just had a long one and the benefit was negligible. I wasn't sure if the public was going to put up with it and with Democrats already ahead in the polls in an election year the juice wasn't going to be worth the squeeze.

Now, 24 hours later, I think it's almost certain and I don't think it's going to be just Democrats doing it. I don't think Republicans are even going to have a majority to pass the DHS funding now. There are Republicans running for seats in the senate that know they can't win if they pass it after today.

I think ICE, and maybe even DHS as a whole might have seen the beginning of their own end as an agency and department. I expect that withing the next 5 years both a shutdown and their responsibilities and remaining agencies are shifted back to their pre-911 footings.

yellow dahlia

(5,227 posts)
81. One of the better voices, in my opinion is Chris van Hollen. He was on MSNOW, earlier.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:38 PM
Jan 24

I Want to hear him and Chris Murphy.

And some of the other better communicators include, but aren't limited to: Melanie Stansbury; Maxwell Frost; Sheldon Whitehouse; Jamie Raskin; and a few more.

It is important to speak to the facts and the law and the Constitution. I don't want to hear the platitudes. There are some strong voices, but Chuck Schumer will grab the microphone and chant "we will win".

lees1975

(6,958 posts)
30. I''d be really excited to see Democratic outrage coming from house or senate members
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:11 PM
Jan 24

and not just from protesters in the streets. I'd like to see some Democrats in the house and senate protesting in the streets. That would be a step-up in the level of passion on this subject.

electric_blue68

(26,455 posts)
66. Rep. Seth Moulton (D-Mass) called for ?curent ICE head to be ptosecuted.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 08:12 PM
Jan 24

Possibly a few others.
Video proved by highplainsdem.

emulatorloo

(46,151 posts)
19. Third Way died in the '90s. But apparently false bothsiderism is alive and well
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:55 PM
Jan 24

I blame Trump and ICE for this. You blame Hakeem. Well ok!


FoxNewsSucks

(11,558 posts)
79. WRONG!!!!!! Jesus H Christ that shit gets OLD!!!!
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:36 PM
Jan 24

No one is "blaming Democrats for this". We know it's the fault of the Nazi admin.

What we DO expect is for an opposing reaction from ALL elected Democrats. A strong, immediate, reaction.

Not, for example, Democrats saving the funding bill for ICE. Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but didn't Jeffries refuse to whip AGAINST that?

That's what he's blamed for, nothing more. Why the fuck would anyone expect liberals to support him on that?

Autumn

(48,869 posts)
14. What a load of bullshit. Nobody is blaming Democrats for anything. If we can't count on our leaders
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:48 PM
Jan 24

to lead, or at least be like Bill Clinton and let us know he shared our pain, when we watch a federal agency murder people on the street what the fuck are we supposed to do? JFC

iemanja

(57,631 posts)
15. Seven of them just voted to fund the terrorist organization that killed the man.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:49 PM
Jan 24

Last edited Sat Jan 24, 2026, 05:05 PM - Edit history (1)

24 Republicans voted against the bill. It could have been defeated if those Democrats had voted no.

BlueKota

(5,158 posts)
58. Wonder if those seven are still proud of their bipartisanship?
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 05:39 PM
Jan 24

The ones who voted for continuing to fund Ice just so they can be appear to be supporting law enforcement? I support law enforcement officers too, but only the ones who actually follow the law themselves. My half brother was a sherrif's deputy.

Those seven along with tsf and the majority of the Republicans in Congess supported Ice. The agency that is breaking the law . They share responsibility for any further loss of innocent lives at the hands of it's agents.

Sorry that's how I feel, and I won't apologize for it. I applaud the Democrats who voted NO and continue to speak out.

betsuni

(28,898 posts)
20. The lust to blame, hate, and punish is palpable.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:57 PM
Jan 24

Demonizing Democrats so they're seen as an evil non-human enemy Establishment.

choie

(6,802 posts)
31. "Demonizing Democrats so they're seen as an evil non-human enemy"
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:12 PM
Jan 24

Oh my god, the hyperbole. Just because we expect our representatives to represent us.

Bettie

(19,448 posts)
62. Apparently, expecting them to come out against
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:50 PM
Jan 24

people being murdered in the streets is a bridge to far for some people.

I don't get it. But given some of the posters who are in that camp, I am unsurprised.

SunImp

(2,654 posts)
76. Shouldn't expect honesty from people who strawman people's positions
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:09 PM
Jan 24

or portrays people who disagrees with them as babies in their replies

emulatorloo

(46,151 posts)
70. Respectfully I'd like to see some criticism aimed at Noem and Miller. But crickets. See this response from Senate Dems
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:01 PM
Jan 24
Senate Democrats come out against DHS funding after Minnesota shooting

https://www.ms.now/news/senate-democrats-dhs-funding-minnesota-shooting


Now, key Democratic senators are publicly opposing any bill that would fund Immigration and Customs Enforcement without new restrictions, sharply increasing the odds of a partial government shutdown just days before the Jan. 30 deadline.

Play

New video appears to show federal agents shoving and spraying man before shooting
JANUARY 24, 2026 / 06:36
With less than a week to go before funding expires, days before the Senate is set to consider a six-bill appropriations package, and hours after Pretti was shot, top Democrats emerged Saturday vowing to block any additional money for ICE.

Most notably, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., announced Saturday night that he would oppose any government spending package that includes funding for DHS — a move that could derail the six-bill package covering the remaining agencies that have not yet been funded.

“What’s happening in Minnesota is appalling — and unacceptable in any American city. Democrats sought common sense reforms in the Department of Homeland Security spending bill, but because of Republicans’ refusal to stand up to President Trump, the DHS bill is woefully inadequate to rein in the abuses of ICE,” Schumer said in a statement. “I will vote no.”

Schumer added that Senate Democrats would not provide the votes needed to advance the appropriations package if it includes DHS funding — a dramatic reversal for a bill that had appeared on track to pass the Senate later this week.

electric_blue68

(26,455 posts)
74. Noem, and especially Nazi loving Miller need ever more fierce criticism, and
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:06 PM
Jan 24

and some way of forcing them out of office!
Along with the Orange Chief of Cruelty!

betsuni

(28,898 posts)
86. Because Republicans are way way over the top extremist fascist monsters, people are dying.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 12:20 AM
Jan 25

Blaming Democrats, accusing them of being able to stop all the bad things but refusing to, always always leaping to the worst possible outcome and motivation without knowing anything about how government works and what is or isn't being done, mocking and calling them names like "Surrender Dems" "Vichy Dems" "strongly worded letters" and they're corrupt and "establishment" and only think about money, character attacks, mocking supporters of Democrats debunking lies as "posse" "swarm" enemies, mocking Jeffries for tweeting something from the Bible (but certain religious fundamentalist terrorists are "freedom fighters" ), mocking voting majorities of Democrats into office as the answer because both sides, if one to a dozen or so Democrats vote in a way they assume is nefarious painting the whole party as bad, daily attacks on leadership as if Schumer and Jeffries are personally responsible mavericks going against the right thing to do by siding with Republicans, outright lying and manipulating emotions with clickbait false headlines -- helps Republicans.

Discourage voting for Democrats. Only takes a few votes in swing states.

electric_blue68

(26,455 posts)
87. Serveral things...
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 12:55 AM
Jan 25

Your post:
mocking voting majorities of Democrats into office as the answer
Some DU'r ( or the OP) are mocking Democrat voting majorities?

because both sides
In this case; what "both sides" .

if one to a dozen or so Democrats vote in a way they assume is nefarious painting the whole party as bad,
Well, that's not helpful!

daily attacks on leadership as if Schumer and Jeffries are personally responsible mavericks going against the right thing to do by siding with Republicans
I d k - perhaps Achumer, or Hakeem threaten a particular member w putting them on a committee they'd hate being on? Everyone has a scale of areas they are interested in, and maybe a few they'd prefer avoiding.

Discourage voting for Democrats. Only takes a few votes in swing states.
This, definitely could be an issue. You get less votes on just "the right" counties.

"Vichy Dems"
. Maaaaybe appropriate on a certain issue. Not sure.
Take the Dems who voted for more ICE funding. It said they did it as to not appear "soft on crime". You know Repugs are always hanging that placard around Dems necks!
However even though that's some risk I still think should gave voted for it - bc ICE as it's been operating particularly this last year is a danger.

KPN

(17,201 posts)
42. The OP did not blame Democrats for what Republicans do. Just saying ...
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:38 PM
Jan 24

Seems to me sometimes here that some people take any criticism as blaming -- another gross misrepresentation.

emulatorloo

(46,151 posts)
89. Nope. OP's projecting the Trump's Regime's atrocities onto Democrats. Aka Blaming Dems for what
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 09:23 PM
Jan 25

Republicans do.

Lets Noem et all off the hook because somehow ‘it is the EVIL DEMOCRAT ESTABLISHMENT’s fault’ that Noem and Miller are doing this.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,558 posts)
83. That's BS.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:41 PM
Jan 24

There was no blame of Democrats, just asking what they will DO in the aftermath.

Blame goes on the corrupt admin scum, where it belongs.

So, what will those entrenched establishment Dems DO? Vote for more funding for ICE or tRump's military?

synni

(711 posts)
46. It is our duty as citizens to hold our elected officials' feet to the fire
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:53 PM
Jan 24

Do your duty. Stop making excuses for the enablers who keep ignoring people like AOC. If we don't pressure people like Schumer, who will?

dalton99a

(92,859 posts)
7. Publish a well-written letter for the round file, tweet something that nobody reads, make a speech to an empty chamber
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:41 PM
Jan 24


when nobody is watching



JI7

(93,375 posts)
26. The perception of soft on crime is a problem. The right wing media's is full of stories
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:07 PM
Jan 24

of crimes by non whites.

People here mostly want democrats to react to things.

But what is important is getting out their side which needs to include tough on crime policies and same with immigration.

choie

(6,802 posts)
41. Right, so let's be cowards
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:35 PM
Jan 24

and afraid to fight for justice because we're scared of being tarred as weak on crime. JesusChrist this country is never going to get back to some semblance of a healthy democracy with thinking like that.

JI7

(93,375 posts)
60. Being tough on crime is part of fighting fort justice
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:39 PM
Jan 24

Letting Republicans control the narrative isn't going to help in any way.

electric_blue68

(26,455 posts)
65. That's what I read as to why those Dems did vote that way
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 08:05 PM
Jan 24

...either "soft on crime", or not supporting law enforcement.

JI7

(93,375 posts)
21. Right Wing media is full of stories of crimes by non white people
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 03:59 PM
Jan 24

People on this site are clueless about what is out there and stuck in the 90s where they think people care about officials giving press conferences.

Just look at Tim Walz not running for reelection. Is he what you consider the democratic party establishment ?

betsuni

(28,898 posts)
32. Newt Gingrich had press conferences practically every day during the '90s, I well remember.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:13 PM
Jan 24

Everybody got so sick of him nobody paid attention.

I often wonder just who the hell is this diabolical establishment conspiracy theory.

Eddie Haskell 60

(49 posts)
24. Force Shutdown this week
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:04 PM
Jan 24

It is the ONLY power Dems have and the DHS bill goes to the Senate this week. If they don't filibuster against this spending for ICE under DHS, they're complicit in the slaughter against citizens.

kimbutgar

(27,005 posts)
27. Both innocent white people
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:09 PM
Jan 24

Who are so used to minorities getting killed by police and ICE. It must be shocking to those white supremacists they aren’t safe either !

Easterncedar

(5,787 posts)
29. The whole point was supposed to be protecting us from murderers
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:10 PM
Jan 24

Murders, assaults, kidnappings. They aren't deporting "the worst of the worst": they have recruited an army of the worst violent criminals and unleashed them to rampage through our cities and attack us.

maxrandb

(17,294 posts)
38. Fuck this noise! Just fuck it!
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:31 PM
Jan 24

This isn't the Democratic Party's Establishments fault!

It isn't Chuck Schumer's fault, or Hakeem Jeffries fault.

It isn't Merrick Garland's, or Jack Smith's fault.

It isn't a boat accident, or a propeller...it isn't Jack the Rippers fault.

The American people had an opportunity to put a stop to this Nazi shit back in November. The American people fucking failed.

This is our fucking fault and it's our God Damned responsibility to fix it.

You want to blame someone? Start with your neighbors, "friends" family members, coworkers and fellow parishioners that voted for this shit.

It's not up to the Democratic Party to shut this fucked-up country down...it's up to us!!!!

I wonder how many fucking "outraged" people are still buying shit and using shit from companies that fund the fucking fascists?

Are we at a point where a majority of people are ready and willing to sacrifice, because they realize that Democracy is more precious then their "comfort"?

Call me when we get to that point.

maxrandb

(17,294 posts)
91. Thank you
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 08:45 AM
Jan 27

I went to the most recent No Kings protest with a friend. They bragged about the "deal" they got on their posterboard from Amazon.

I mentioned that "wasn't helpful".

Grim Chieftain

(1,434 posts)
40. Hmmm
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:34 PM
Jan 24

Waiting for a strongly worded written response.



Seriously, I am looking forward to responses from Jamie Raskin, Eric Swalwell, Jasmine Crockett, AOC, and other fierce Democrats.
We need you now more than ever.

electric_blue68

(26,455 posts)
68. From AOC
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 08:33 PM
Jan 24

atrupar.com‬
AOC: "An ICE officer had violently pushed a woman to the ground and he had come over to help get her up and that is what precipitated this incident that very quickly led to an execution in the streets. What we are seeing here is a momentous pivotal moment for the United States."

mcar

(45,820 posts)
43. Can we stop with the "Dems suck" narrative for one day?
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 04:47 PM
Jan 24

Is it even possible here for us to come to grips with the murder of another citizen without some here using it as an excuse to proactively bash Democrats?

demmiblue

(39,478 posts)
50. Here is the leadership response:
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 05:19 PM
Jan 24

ICE out of Minnesota NOW.

Chuck Schumer (@schumer.senate.gov) 2026-01-24T18:39:04.453Z

Meh

No press release as of right now: https://www.schumer.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases


Nothing from Jeffries (on Bluesky… not going to check the Nazi bar). Also, no press release as of right now: https://jeffries.house.gov/category/press-release/


* There may be other commentary from them (cable news, Facebook, Insta, etc.), but I have not seen it.

JustAnotherGen

(37,774 posts)
53. I've called the six i think
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 05:28 PM
Jan 24

Could vote yes on the 30th. Fetterman isn't worth the time.

I'd call them read exactly what you wrote. Its bang on.

I finished with - do you want to be remembered as Neville Chamberlain or Harriet Tubman? Its your call.

W_HAMILTON

(10,244 posts)
54. What exactly is it that you think those not in """the Establishment""" (tm) are doing to distinguish one from the other?
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 05:29 PM
Jan 24

Democrats -- both those in and not in """the Establishment""" (tm) -- are in the minority and there is little to nothing they can do, especially when faced with a fascist administration that has the powers of enforcement and routinely refuses to follow the law to begin with.

These are all things that we warned people about before the election and yet they didn't listen. Did they think that Democrats in the minority could wave a magic wand and save them from all these terrible things going on?

BlueTsunami2018

(4,917 posts)
61. They support ICE.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:47 PM
Jan 24

There’s no way around that fact. They’re not going to do anything. They just voted to fund them the other day. I don’t give a fuck if it was “just” seven of them, it should have been none of them.

I’m tired of this “good cop/bad cop we all support the accumulation of capital” charade.

This is a fascist country. It always has been. It always will be unless people get together and do something about it because this system isn’t going to save us.

Srkdqltr

(9,537 posts)
64. Every democratic lawmaker in house senate and governor should be in Minnesota tomorrow.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 06:52 PM
Jan 24

Any who are able. There are airplanes everywhere. Just take warm coats and go.

emulatorloo

(46,151 posts)
73. MSNOW: Senate Democrats come out against DHS funding after Minnesota shooting
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:05 PM
Jan 24
Senate Democrats come out against DHS funding after Minnesota shooting

https://www.ms.now/news/senate-democrats-dhs-funding-minnesota-shooting

Maybe you should self-delete your op

Now, key Democratic senators are publicly opposing any bill that would fund Immigration and Customs Enforcement without new restrictions, sharply increasing the odds of a partial government shutdown just days before the Jan. 30 deadline.

Play

New video appears to show federal agents shoving and spraying man before shooting
JANUARY 24, 2026 / 06:36
With less than a week to go before funding expires, days before the Senate is set to consider a six-bill appropriations package, and hours after Pretti was shot, top Democrats emerged Saturday vowing to block any additional money for ICE.

Most notably, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., announced Saturday night that he would oppose any government spending package that includes funding for DHS — a move that could derail the six-bill package covering the remaining agencies that have not yet been funded.

“What’s happening in Minnesota is appalling — and unacceptable in any American city. Democrats sought common sense reforms in the Department of Homeland Security spending bill, but because of Republicans’ refusal to stand up to President Trump, the DHS bill is woefully inadequate to rein in the abuses of ICE,” Schumer said in a statement. “I will vote no.”

Schumer added that Senate Democrats would not provide the votes needed to advance the appropriations package if it includes DHS funding — a dramatic reversal for a bill that had appeared on track to pass the Senate later this week.


FoxNewsSucks

(11,558 posts)
84. We'll see if actually gets stopped.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 09:42 PM
Jan 24

Until then, I'm making no assumptions.

We know Fetterman probably won't support us. We'll see who else

electric_blue68

(26,455 posts)
88. Idk....DJ S M. Perhaps you're being a bit too sarcastic?....
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 01:10 AM
Jan 25

We've been feeling frustration, pain, anger, and anxiety since Donnie was reelected (first term; too!) for what he, and his people are/are not doing. Now escalated with Good's and now Pretti's murders.

Dems can't do too much being the minority party in both Houses.

However they probably could do more according to this professor who's video was posted some days back. I watched it. screen grabbed parts to bring it up.

Has to with "gumming up the works" with minuitae procedural votes to at least slow down bad legislation, if not stopping it.

Have to come up with something !

Sparkly

(24,867 posts)
90. They're refusing to fund ICE
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 09:28 PM
Jan 25

even though it could mean another government shutdown. Maybe this thread could be locked with a new post linking to the issue and ways to contact Senators/Representatives to express support or objection.

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