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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat Will the Democratic Party Establishment Do in the Aftermath of Another I.C.E. Murder?
Clearly we need a strong response from our leadership. Repeated calls to be calm in the face of a second gestapo murder have already been issued by the Minneapolis Police and other authorities, so the phase one response has been activated. Expected phase two responses of tots and pears are likely forthcoming soon. One can but wonder what response will come from the Democratic Party leadership. Will Democratic Party leaders maximize this to electoral advantage by:
1. writing a strongly-worded letter?
2. holding hearings where members can demonstrate their outrage through grandstanding?
3. move to enact a bipartisan non-binding resolution calling for calm?
4. call for increases to the Homeland Security budget to fund sensitivity training for I.C.E. officers?
5. locking the office door and hiding under their desks?
Bipartisan this, Chuck and Hakeem.
Meanwhile, I wonder how the behavior of their heroic I.C.E. officers is playing in red AmeriKKKa. Id tune in to fascist media, but I just ate.
RockRaven
(18,958 posts)which won't even be broadcast on the news while the local elected Dems ... *checks notes*... preside over local LEOs who are attacking protesters too?
Ah, swell...
Autumn
(48,869 posts)then business as usual.
Ars Longa
(496 posts)committee that would issue a report on ICE in about 9 or 10 months. Or perhaps
even longer!!
Autumn
(48,869 posts)I'm going with an almost strongly worded, 30 words or less, semi condemnation will be the winner.
choie
(6,802 posts)emulatorloo
(46,151 posts)Especially with midterms coming up.
Because apparently DU wants to depress voter turnout by pounding home the bullshit message that Democrats must be PUNISHED
As That will help Republicans win and keep Republicans in power.
/s
choie
(6,802 posts)after a horror they might gain some voters? You know, like show some leadership? Stop with the usual canard of "you're blaming Democrats".
emulatorloo
(46,151 posts)And DU too busy falsely blaming Democrats for what Republicans do to pay attention
choie
(6,802 posts)Please be sure to post a press conference on this execution. I'd love to see it.
emulatorloo
(46,151 posts)Im pissed off too but Im pissed at ICE and Trump.
Bettie
(19,448 posts)Or are you speaking of someone else?
Democratic Governors are standing up for their states.
choie
(6,802 posts)Congressional reps. Governor Walz is a role model, and other dems should take note.
emulatorloo
(46,151 posts)Play
New video appears to show federal agents shoving and spraying man before shooting
JANUARY 24, 2026 / 06:36
With less than a week to go before funding expires, days before the Senate is set to consider a six-bill appropriations package, and hours after Pretti was shot, top Democrats emerged Saturday vowing to block any additional money for ICE.
Most notably, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., announced Saturday night that he would oppose any government spending package that includes funding for DHS a move that could derail the six-bill package covering the remaining agencies that have not yet been funded.
Whats happening in Minnesota is appalling and unacceptable in any American city. Democrats sought common sense reforms in the Department of Homeland Security spending bill, but because of Republicans refusal to stand up to President Trump, the DHS bill is woefully inadequate to rein in the abuses of ICE, Schumer said in a statement. I will vote no.
Schumer added that Senate Democrats would not provide the votes needed to advance the appropriations package if it includes DHS funding a dramatic reversal for a bill that had appeared on track to pass the Senate later this week.
Boo1
(238 posts)if literal Martians invaded. It's their go to move.
But I will say, as far as a reaction....
Yesterday I thought there was almost no chance that there was going to be a shutdown. We just had a long one and the benefit was negligible. I wasn't sure if the public was going to put up with it and with Democrats already ahead in the polls in an election year the juice wasn't going to be worth the squeeze.
Now, 24 hours later, I think it's almost certain and I don't think it's going to be just Democrats doing it. I don't think Republicans are even going to have a majority to pass the DHS funding now. There are Republicans running for seats in the senate that know they can't win if they pass it after today.
I think ICE, and maybe even DHS as a whole might have seen the beginning of their own end as an agency and department. I expect that withing the next 5 years both a shutdown and their responsibilities and remaining agencies are shifted back to their pre-911 footings.
yellow dahlia
(5,227 posts)I Want to hear him and Chris Murphy.
And some of the other better communicators include, but aren't limited to: Melanie Stansbury; Maxwell Frost; Sheldon Whitehouse; Jamie Raskin; and a few more.
It is important to speak to the facts and the law and the Constitution. I don't want to hear the platitudes. There are some strong voices, but Chuck Schumer will grab the microphone and chant "we will win".
lees1975
(6,958 posts)and not just from protesters in the streets. I'd like to see some Democrats in the house and senate protesting in the streets. That would be a step-up in the level of passion on this subject.
JI7
(93,375 posts)kacekwl
(8,996 posts)N/t
electric_blue68
(26,455 posts)Possibly a few others.
Video proved by highplainsdem.
Fresh out of patience today.
emulatorloo
(46,151 posts)DJ Synikus Makisimus
(1,261 posts)Behold the glorious result.
emulatorloo
(46,151 posts)I blame Trump and ICE for this. You blame Hakeem. Well ok!
choie
(6,802 posts)There's even a think tank called Third Way. Nice try though.
Arazi
(8,781 posts)So yeah, he will be blamed 🤬
FoxNewsSucks
(11,558 posts)No one is "blaming Democrats for this". We know it's the fault of the Nazi admin.
What we DO expect is for an opposing reaction from ALL elected Democrats. A strong, immediate, reaction.
Not, for example, Democrats saving the funding bill for ICE. Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but didn't Jeffries refuse to whip AGAINST that?
That's what he's blamed for, nothing more. Why the fuck would anyone expect liberals to support him on that?
choie
(6,802 posts)N/t
JI7
(93,375 posts)choie
(6,802 posts)diddly.
mcar
(45,820 posts)Bringing back the golden oldies.
Autumn
(48,869 posts)to lead, or at least be like Bill Clinton and let us know he shared our pain, when we watch a federal agency murder people on the street what the fuck are we supposed to do? JFC
iemanja
(57,631 posts)Last edited Sat Jan 24, 2026, 05:05 PM - Edit history (1)
24 Republicans voted against the bill. It could have been defeated if those Democrats had voted no.
BlueKota
(5,158 posts)The ones who voted for continuing to fund Ice just so they can be appear to be supporting law enforcement? I support law enforcement officers too, but only the ones who actually follow the law themselves. My half brother was a sherrif's deputy.
Those seven along with tsf and the majority of the Republicans in Congess supported Ice. The agency that is breaking the law . They share responsibility for any further loss of innocent lives at the hands of it's agents.
Sorry that's how I feel, and I won't apologize for it. I applaud the Democrats who voted NO and continue to speak out.
Scrivener7
(58,910 posts)betsuni
(28,898 posts)Demonizing Democrats so they're seen as an evil non-human enemy Establishment.
choie
(6,802 posts)Oh my god, the hyperbole. Just because we expect our representatives to represent us.
Bettie
(19,448 posts)people being murdered in the streets is a bridge to far for some people.
I don't get it. But given some of the posters who are in that camp, I am unsurprised.
choie
(6,802 posts)I shouldnt be surprised either.
SunImp
(2,654 posts)or portrays people who disagrees with them as babies in their replies
electric_blue68
(26,455 posts)emulatorloo
(46,151 posts)https://www.ms.now/news/senate-democrats-dhs-funding-minnesota-shooting
Play
New video appears to show federal agents shoving and spraying man before shooting
JANUARY 24, 2026 / 06:36
With less than a week to go before funding expires, days before the Senate is set to consider a six-bill appropriations package, and hours after Pretti was shot, top Democrats emerged Saturday vowing to block any additional money for ICE.
Most notably, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., announced Saturday night that he would oppose any government spending package that includes funding for DHS a move that could derail the six-bill package covering the remaining agencies that have not yet been funded.
Whats happening in Minnesota is appalling and unacceptable in any American city. Democrats sought common sense reforms in the Department of Homeland Security spending bill, but because of Republicans refusal to stand up to President Trump, the DHS bill is woefully inadequate to rein in the abuses of ICE, Schumer said in a statement. I will vote no.
Schumer added that Senate Democrats would not provide the votes needed to advance the appropriations package if it includes DHS funding a dramatic reversal for a bill that had appeared on track to pass the Senate later this week.
electric_blue68
(26,455 posts)and some way of forcing them out of office!
Along with the Orange Chief of Cruelty!
emulatorloo
(46,151 posts)betsuni
(28,898 posts)Blaming Democrats, accusing them of being able to stop all the bad things but refusing to, always always leaping to the worst possible outcome and motivation without knowing anything about how government works and what is or isn't being done, mocking and calling them names like "Surrender Dems" "Vichy Dems" "strongly worded letters" and they're corrupt and "establishment" and only think about money, character attacks, mocking supporters of Democrats debunking lies as "posse" "swarm" enemies, mocking Jeffries for tweeting something from the Bible (but certain religious fundamentalist terrorists are "freedom fighters" ), mocking voting majorities of Democrats into office as the answer because both sides, if one to a dozen or so Democrats vote in a way they assume is nefarious painting the whole party as bad, daily attacks on leadership as if Schumer and Jeffries are personally responsible mavericks going against the right thing to do by siding with Republicans, outright lying and manipulating emotions with clickbait false headlines -- helps Republicans.
Discourage voting for Democrats. Only takes a few votes in swing states.
electric_blue68
(26,455 posts)Your post:
mocking voting majorities of Democrats into office as the answer
Some DU'r ( or the OP) are mocking Democrat voting majorities?
because both sides
In this case; what "both sides" .
if one to a dozen or so Democrats vote in a way they assume is nefarious painting the whole party as bad,
Well, that's not helpful!
daily attacks on leadership as if Schumer and Jeffries are personally responsible mavericks going against the right thing to do by siding with Republicans
I d k - perhaps Achumer, or Hakeem threaten a particular member w putting them on a committee they'd hate being on? Everyone has a scale of areas they are interested in, and maybe a few they'd prefer avoiding.
Discourage voting for Democrats. Only takes a few votes in swing states.
This, definitely could be an issue. You get less votes on just "the right" counties.
"Vichy Dems"
. Maaaaybe appropriate on a certain issue. Not sure.
Take the Dems who voted for more ICE funding. It said they did it as to not appear "soft on crime". You know Repugs are always hanging that placard around Dems necks!
However even though that's some risk I still think should gave voted for it - bc ICE as it's been operating particularly this last year is a danger.
KPN
(17,201 posts)Seems to me sometimes here that some people take any criticism as blaming -- another gross misrepresentation.
emulatorloo
(46,151 posts)https://www.ms.now/news/senate-democrats-dhs-funding-minnesota-shooting
KPN
(17,201 posts)emulatorloo
(46,151 posts)Republicans do.
Lets Noem et all off the hook because somehow it is the EVIL DEMOCRAT ESTABLISHMENTs fault that Noem and Miller are doing this.
FoxNewsSucks
(11,558 posts)There was no blame of Democrats, just asking what they will DO in the aftermath.
Blame goes on the corrupt admin scum, where it belongs.
So, what will those entrenched establishment Dems DO? Vote for more funding for ICE or tRump's military?
synni
(711 posts)Do your duty. Stop making excuses for the enablers who keep ignoring people like AOC. If we don't pressure people like Schumer, who will?
durablend
(9,024 posts)So #s 1 & 4 on your list
betsuni
(28,898 posts)dalton99a
(92,859 posts)when nobody is watching
SamuelTheThird
(769 posts)They don't want to piss off wealthy donors, and they might have concerns for their own personal safety.
durablend
(9,024 posts)Though they'll be tarred with that anyway.
JI7
(93,375 posts)of crimes by non whites.
People here mostly want democrats to react to things.
But what is important is getting out their side which needs to include tough on crime policies and same with immigration.
choie
(6,802 posts)and afraid to fight for justice because we're scared of being tarred as weak on crime. JesusChrist this country is never going to get back to some semblance of a healthy democracy with thinking like that.
JI7
(93,375 posts)Letting Republicans control the narrative isn't going to help in any way.
electric_blue68
(26,455 posts)...either "soft on crime", or not supporting law enforcement.
JI7
(93,375 posts)People on this site are clueless about what is out there and stuck in the 90s where they think people care about officials giving press conferences.
Just look at Tim Walz not running for reelection. Is he what you consider the democratic party establishment ?
betsuni
(28,898 posts)Everybody got so sick of him nobody paid attention.
I often wonder just who the hell is this diabolical establishment conspiracy theory.
Eddie Haskell 60
(49 posts)It is the ONLY power Dems have and the DHS bill goes to the Senate this week. If they don't filibuster against this spending for ICE under DHS, they're complicit in the slaughter against citizens.
kimbutgar
(27,005 posts)Who are so used to minorities getting killed by police and ICE. It must be shocking to those white supremacists they arent safe either !
Easterncedar
(5,787 posts)Murders, assaults, kidnappings. They aren't deporting "the worst of the worst": they have recruited an army of the worst violent criminals and unleashed them to rampage through our cities and attack us.
Tim S
(84 posts)ya know...
Torchlight
(6,521 posts)with no answers yet.
maxrandb
(17,294 posts)This isn't the Democratic Party's Establishments fault!
It isn't Chuck Schumer's fault, or Hakeem Jeffries fault.
It isn't Merrick Garland's, or Jack Smith's fault.
It isn't a boat accident, or a propeller...it isn't Jack the Rippers fault.
The American people had an opportunity to put a stop to this Nazi shit back in November. The American people fucking failed.
This is our fucking fault and it's our God Damned responsibility to fix it.
You want to blame someone? Start with your neighbors, "friends" family members, coworkers and fellow parishioners that voted for this shit.
It's not up to the Democratic Party to shut this fucked-up country down...it's up to us!!!!
I wonder how many fucking "outraged" people are still buying shit and using shit from companies that fund the fucking fascists?
Are we at a point where a majority of people are ready and willing to sacrifice, because they realize that Democracy is more precious then their "comfort"?
Call me when we get to that point.
betsuni
(28,898 posts)emulatorloo
(46,151 posts)maxrandb
(17,294 posts)I went to the most recent No Kings protest with a friend. They bragged about the "deal" they got on their posterboard from Amazon.
I mentioned that "wasn't helpful".
Grim Chieftain
(1,434 posts)Waiting for a strongly worded written response.
Seriously, I am looking forward to responses from Jamie Raskin, Eric Swalwell, Jasmine Crockett, AOC, and other fierce Democrats.
We need you now more than ever.
electric_blue68
(26,455 posts)atrupar.com
AOC: "An ICE officer had violently pushed a woman to the ground and he had come over to help get her up and that is what precipitated this incident that very quickly led to an execution in the streets. What we are seeing here is a momentous pivotal moment for the United States."
mcar
(45,820 posts)Is it even possible here for us to come to grips with the murder of another citizen without some here using it as an excuse to proactively bash Democrats?
demmiblue
(39,478 posts)ICE out of Minnesota NOW.
— Chuck Schumer (@schumer.senate.gov) 2026-01-24T18:39:04.453Z
Meh
No press release as of right now: https://www.schumer.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases
Nothing from Jeffries (on Bluesky not going to check the Nazi bar). Also, no press release as of right now: https://jeffries.house.gov/category/press-release/
* There may be other commentary from them (cable news, Facebook, Insta, etc.), but I have not seen it.
mr715
(3,251 posts)And frankly more than I expected.
Bettie
(19,448 posts)and a good start.
Surprising. I did not expect him to even acknowledge the murder.
C_U_L8R
(49,130 posts)Strategery. They can do both things if they really wanted.
JustAnotherGen
(37,774 posts)Could vote yes on the 30th. Fetterman isn't worth the time.
I'd call them read exactly what you wrote. Its bang on.
I finished with - do you want to be remembered as Neville Chamberlain or Harriet Tubman? Its your call.
W_HAMILTON
(10,244 posts)Democrats -- both those in and not in """the Establishment""" (tm) -- are in the minority and there is little to nothing they can do, especially when faced with a fascist administration that has the powers of enforcement and routinely refuses to follow the law to begin with.
These are all things that we warned people about before the election and yet they didn't listen. Did they think that Democrats in the minority could wave a magic wand and save them from all these terrible things going on?
mahatmakanejeeves
(68,824 posts)gay texan
(3,184 posts)regnaD kciN
(27,546 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(4,917 posts)Theres no way around that fact. Theyre not going to do anything. They just voted to fund them the other day. I dont give a fuck if it was just seven of them, it should have been none of them.
Im tired of this good cop/bad cop we all support the accumulation of capital charade.
This is a fascist country. It always has been. It always will be unless people get together and do something about it because this system isnt going to save us.
Srkdqltr
(9,537 posts)Any who are able. There are airplanes everywhere. Just take warm coats and go.
emulatorloo
(46,151 posts)https://www.ms.now/news/senate-democrats-dhs-funding-minnesota-shooting
Maybe you should self-delete your op
Play
New video appears to show federal agents shoving and spraying man before shooting
JANUARY 24, 2026 / 06:36
With less than a week to go before funding expires, days before the Senate is set to consider a six-bill appropriations package, and hours after Pretti was shot, top Democrats emerged Saturday vowing to block any additional money for ICE.
Most notably, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., announced Saturday night that he would oppose any government spending package that includes funding for DHS a move that could derail the six-bill package covering the remaining agencies that have not yet been funded.
Whats happening in Minnesota is appalling and unacceptable in any American city. Democrats sought common sense reforms in the Department of Homeland Security spending bill, but because of Republicans refusal to stand up to President Trump, the DHS bill is woefully inadequate to rein in the abuses of ICE, Schumer said in a statement. I will vote no.
Schumer added that Senate Democrats would not provide the votes needed to advance the appropriations package if it includes DHS funding a dramatic reversal for a bill that had appeared on track to pass the Senate later this week.
FoxNewsSucks
(11,558 posts)Until then, I'm making no assumptions.
We know Fetterman probably won't support us. We'll see who else
electric_blue68
(26,455 posts)We've been feeling frustration, pain, anger, and anxiety since Donnie was reelected (first term; too!) for what he, and his people are/are not doing. Now escalated with Good's and now Pretti's murders.
Dems can't do too much being the minority party in both Houses.
However they probably could do more according to this professor who's video was posted some days back. I watched it. screen grabbed parts to bring it up.
Has to with "gumming up the works" with minuitae procedural votes to at least slow down bad legislation, if not stopping it.
Have to come up with something !
Sparkly
(24,867 posts)even though it could mean another government shutdown. Maybe this thread could be locked with a new post linking to the issue and ways to contact Senators/Representatives to express support or objection.
