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Ocelot II

(129,730 posts)
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 10:15 PM Jan 24

I've been at a vigil for Alex Pretti.

These are happening in neighborhoods all over. We came out because because we couldn't just stay home. We couldn't not come out. And we're not giving up.





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I've been at a vigil for Alex Pretti. (Original Post) Ocelot II Jan 24 OP
God bless Minneapolis and damn those responsible! surfered Jan 24 #1
I was with you in spirit. riversedge Jan 24 #2
me too gopiscrap Jan 24 #13
Trump's already got the shooter to federal housing somewhere...hope they can't hide there forever... wcmagumba Jan 24 #3
Ocelot II, I didn't realize you were there. I'm so sorry this is happening near your home. Scrivener7 Jan 24 #4
Beautiful. Sparkly Jan 24 #5
... MustLoveBeagles Jan 24 #6
We all stand with Minnesota and Minnesotans. Pretti and Good are in our hearts. usonian Jan 24 #7
"Pretti Good" -- there's something there... Sparkly Jan 24 #8
There's an odd pattern to that. I think I'll change my name to Evil. usonian Jan 24 #9
ICE is why we can't have nice things UpInArms Jan 24 #10
OMG murielm99 Jan 25 #23
On behalf of all of us who can't be there in person, JMCKUSICK Jan 24 #11
K&R orangecrush Jan 24 #12
K&R Solly Mack Jan 24 #14
when will the mayor and governor do something? quakerboy Jan 24 #15
What are they supposed to do? They have spoken very forcefully at press conferences Ocelot II Jan 24 #17
words without actions mean little quakerboy Jan 24 #20
Local officers "following" ICE Sparkly Jan 25 #26
that is what it should mean quakerboy Jan 25 #27
Waiting on the politicians just leads to more people dead. Queso Delicioso Jan 24 #18
thats what's happening now quakerboy Jan 25 #22
Is this good enough for you? ShazzieB Jan 25 #25
That seems like a lot of words, which when boiled down quakerboy Jan 25 #30
Your expectations seem unrealistic to me. ShazzieB Jan 25 #39
No blame for Minesotans. quakerboy Jan 25 #42
Thinking of you all. Wshing you Strength, and Safety! electric_blue68 Jan 24 #16
DURec leftstreet Jan 24 #19
K&R 2naSalit Jan 24 #21
Portland here: We live on a busy road and have placed an electric candle CareyOn Jan 25 #24
... love_katz Jan 25 #28
Mahalo, Ocelot... the photos are Cha Jan 25 #29
💧💔 littlemissmartypants Jan 25 #31
K & R malaise Jan 25 #32
K & R Spazito Jan 25 #33
Thank you Ocelot II Clouds Passing Jan 25 #34
With Minnesota Wild blueberry Jan 25 #35
K&R betsuni Jan 25 #36
The shadows cast BaronChocula Jan 25 #37
Thank you Evolve Dammit Jan 25 #38
.. BlueWaveNeverEnd Jan 25 #40
Thank you for attending & for bringing photos. TBF Jan 25 #41

Scrivener7

(58,884 posts)
4. Ocelot II, I didn't realize you were there. I'm so sorry this is happening near your home.
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 10:20 PM
Jan 24

I can't imagine. Please be safe and know Minnesota is in our hearts.

quakerboy

(14,780 posts)
15. when will the mayor and governor do something?
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 11:27 PM
Jan 24

Its now on the leaders and law enforcement whether they will begin protecting the citizens or continue to stand silent in the face of this terrorist invasion.

Ocelot II

(129,730 posts)
17. What are they supposed to do? They have spoken very forcefully at press conferences
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 11:39 PM
Jan 24

about their opposition to ICE. They have been anything but silent, but unfortunately state and local police have no power over federal law enforcement. The governor has called out the MN National Guard to assist the police in de-escalation.

quakerboy

(14,780 posts)
20. words without actions mean little
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 11:56 PM
Jan 24

Since when are federal employees exempt from law enforcement?

By your argument, if an fbi agent decides to hold up a gas station, local police cant arrest him. Its nonsense.

Every ice convoy to leave their hq could be accompanied/followed by a local pd vehicle. With body cams and vehicle cameras. Police officers do have the ability to arrest other LE who they personally observe breaking the law. They certainly can give testimony in court about what they personally observe.

I suspect if legitimate law enforcement was present to observe (as opposed to to collaborate) and enforce the laws, ice would get a lot less likely to blatantly break the law in their presence.

Sparkly

(24,867 posts)
26. Local officers "following" ICE
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 12:38 AM
Jan 25

That wouldn't work, first because local LE is so vastly outnumbered by these anonymous, masked, untrained thugs. In addition, the Cosplaying GI-Joes are federal, so - someone correct me if I'm wrong - they sort of outrank the state if there were a conflict between the two, absurd though that is.

Local law enforcement is not collaborating - that is the very meaning of a sanctuary city or state.

quakerboy

(14,780 posts)
27. that is what it should mean
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 01:35 AM
Jan 25

But facts are that even in sanctuary areas police often find ways to help feds rather than uphold the law of their locality.

And at least as yet they do precious little to stand up for the citizens they are supposed to serve and protect.

Also, just to be real, law enforcement isn't sworn to uphold the law only if/when they outnumber lawbreakers.

Id also argue that if the police were to stand with the citizens, the citizens would stand with the police. And together they outnumber ice by a large margin.

quakerboy

(14,780 posts)
22. thats what's happening now
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 12:09 AM
Jan 25

Both waiting in politicians leading to deaths.

And fighting without fighting. Thats literally what the man they murdered today was doing.

quakerboy

(14,780 posts)
30. That seems like a lot of words, which when boiled down
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 04:12 AM
Jan 25

really only state that he has tasked the national guard with protecting ICE.

Let me know when those national guard troops are there, facing the ICE terrorists (not the citizens that ice are terrorizing). Let me know when the local police or the local national guard prevent ice from throwing tear gas and flashbangs, or are at least in the way taking the brunt of those attacks to protect their fellow citizens.

So in short.. Not especially. I heard nothing in his words or propositions that seems likely to prevent or even slow ICE from their next murder.

ShazzieB

(22,341 posts)
39. Your expectations seem unrealistic to me.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 05:18 PM
Jan 25

I think the situation is more complex than you realize, and state and local officials do not have all the options you seem to think they do. It's sad that you seem to be set on blaming the victims (Minnesotans and their elected leaders) instead of the thugs that are terrorizing them.

quakerboy

(14,780 posts)
42. No blame for Minesotans.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 09:11 PM
Jan 25

I do have high expectations of elected officials and sworn officers.

Minesota Governors oath of office:
"I, [Name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Minnesota, and that I will faithfully discharge the duties of the office of Governor of the State of Minnesota to the best of my judgment and ability.

Mineapolis police officers oath of office:
"I, [name], do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States, the Constitution and laws of the State of Minnesota, and the Charter and Ordinances of the City of Minneapolis;

That I shall, in recognition of my service as a peace keeper, first do no harm, that I will uphold and safeguard the sanctity of life, and that I will shield and protect my community from those who would seek to cause harm;

That I shall intervene in protest, both verbally and physically, if I witness anyone violating another's rights;

That I recognize those I serve are members of the human family worthy of dignity and respect, and my term in office shall be guided by my love of service to the community and the grace of humanity."

CareyOn

(81 posts)
24. Portland here: We live on a busy road and have placed an electric candle
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 12:23 AM
Jan 25

in the window to remember Alex Pretti's life and recognize his bravery and that of the people of Minnesota.

BaronChocula

(4,188 posts)
37. The shadows cast
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 02:19 PM
Jan 25

on the ground in the first photo are reminiscent of the stripes on our flag. A reminder that WE are America and stand up to defend it.

TBF

(35,987 posts)
41. Thank you for attending & for bringing photos.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 08:24 PM
Jan 25

George Floyd is interred not far from where I live (south of Houston). The procession lines were deep for his burial, our area really turned out for him.

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