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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"You cannot bring a firearm, loaded, with multiple magazines to any sort of protest that you want. It's that simple."
"You cannot bring a firearm, loaded, with multiple magazines to any sort of protest that you want. It's that simple."
— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@mrsbettybowers.bsky.social) 2026-01-25T15:42:09.280Z
OC375
(1,079 posts)Wait till they show up in MN, get beaten, and then more show up, etc Going to be a hot spring.
Whyisthisstillclose
(714 posts)The stupidity burns almost as much as the hypocrisy.
CincyDem
(7,402 posts)Waiting
Waiting
Waiting
Waiting
milestogo
(23,140 posts)First Assistant U.S. Attorney Bill Essayli, a top federal prosecutor in Los Angeles, posted on social media that if a person approaches law enforcement with a gun, theres a good change that officer will be justified in shooting that person.
The NRA reacted to the prosecutors comments, calling them dangerous and wrong. The gun rights group said prosecutors should not demonize law-abiding citizens and should wait until a full investigation is complete.
https://www.fox10tv.com/2026/01/25/nra-slams-federal-prosecutors-post-about-minneapolis-shooting-dangerous-wrong/
enigmania
(501 posts)MayReasonRule
(4,127 posts)
COL Mustard
(8,313 posts)Damn them to Hell, along with all their guns & ammo. Let them shoot the Hell out of Hell all they want.
70sEraVet
(5,547 posts)From "....politicians like Tim Walz has incited violence...", to "we urge the political voices to lower the temperature..."
Urging the lowering of temperatures while pouring the gasoline.
Screw them. They have been making their money by scaring white people with the prophecy of a race war.
Klondike Kat
(943 posts)I've seen loads of manure, but nothing like the load that the NRA just shoveled.
popsdenver
(2,417 posts)that in the 2016 Election, the NRA was instrumental in treasonously laundering Tens of Millions from Russian Oligarchs/Putin into "campaign donations" for Republican Candidates across the nation.........
GiqueCee
(4,498 posts)Tim Walz's toenail clippings are better than any of you lying rancid scumbags. Decades ago, I was a member of the NRA, back when it was a responsible sportsmen's association that promoted firearms safety. Then Wayne LaPierre happened, and I cancelled my membership. Now I wouldn't cross the street to piss in your face if you were on fire.
MadameButterfly
(4,115 posts)and was very proud of them.
Emile
(42,726 posts)Skittles
(172,241 posts)that's the only "fact" they need
lonely bird
(2,987 posts)Period.
NBachers
(19,512 posts)COL Mustard
(8,313 posts)You'll pass out if you do!
delisen
(7,403 posts)Would they have known he had a legal concealed carry permit and that he was also not a threat.?
Gaugamela
(3,553 posts)run clear of the scuffle as soon as he had it? Why does he look around to see who might be watching instead of turning toward the gunfire, which he seems to be expecting? Why do the others start firing the moment the gun is seized?
Blue Full Moon
(3,569 posts)Gaugamela
(3,553 posts)paleotn
(22,466 posts)Ferryboat
(1,266 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 25, 2026, 01:14 PM - Edit history (1)
gives them what they need to escalate.
We need to have discipline, do not give them what need.
No visible firearms if you feel the need to carry. Bad idea, don't do it. I understand the desire, myself I'm a strong proponent of the 2A. But it is a really bad idea.
Throw no bricks, only insults and snowballs. I like the idea of water balloons.
Document any encounter, gather the receipts. Useful to counter the 'official narrative'.
Any other suggestions?
thinkingagain
(1,352 posts)That being said this guy did not, other than trying to help others.
If he had a gun it was concealed. Never once displayed.
Water balloons - with dye mark the vests with color.
Before you go out make a statement of your intent.
That could get posted if something happens to you.
( arrested, detained or worse)
Statement such as
I am a peaceful law abiding citizen, I am exercising my amendment rights to participate in a peaceful protest.
I have no plans to cause any problems,
I will possibly film and record what is going on around me.
I am sure it could be worded better.
Seinan Sensei
(1,594 posts)Maybe
Bengus81
(10,258 posts)spray chemicals in your face. This shit is straight out of the Viet Nam protests on how to gin up peaceful protesters into a riot.
thinkingagain
(1,352 posts)Best we can do is continue to be as peaceful as we possibly can
And believe our own eyes and ears
TBF
(36,909 posts)it absolutely could've been a "hit" so to speak.
MayReasonRule
(4,127 posts)
What we do in the shadows is at least as what we do in the streets.
Maru Kitteh
(31,887 posts)hay rick
(9,657 posts)I assume there will be incidents, probably multiple incidents- sooner rather than later.
My belief about these murders:
The important part is getting away with them and getting some people to accept and repeat the lies of justification. Those who do not buy the lies will see that there is no legal recourse and either get discouraged or get radicalized. What would a third ICE murder in Minneapolis or Maine this week look like? Would the outrage be diminished?
If there is a retaliatory murder in the near future, troops may or may not be sent in. If they are not sent in the administration will call it a demonstration of restraint- but the murders will continue. I think they don't want to send troops in at this time because they are not really ready and they want to do something closer to the November elections. Interfering with those elections is surely the administration's most important tactical objective this year.
Blue Full Moon
(3,569 posts)paleotn
(22,466 posts)They're losing that battle badly. Particularly with this latest incident. In fact, it gives Dems the political heft and cover to strip ICEhole funding from the new appropriations bill OR shut down the government. Who's responsible for shutting down the government you may ask? Well, the regime loaded it with extra funding for a group that's murdering US citizens on the street. We ain't voting for that!! See how that plays? Not to good for Donnie Dumbass and his band of goons.
Blue Full Moon
(3,569 posts)paleotn
(22,466 posts)That's what makes governments work in the west. To a great degree everywhere. Even Putin worries about his perception among the Russian populace. But that's particularly true in a nation with no history thus no genetic memory of authoritarianism.
The only thing holding this regime in power is R's perception that Trump controls their base of voters and they can't win primaries without that. When they discover they can push back hard on Trump and still win, or that not doing so means they lose the general, Trump is doomed. That calculus is based on how many "bridges too far" this regime is taking. Quite a few of late. Even THINKING about actually canceling 2026 elections and it's game over. They'll impeach and convict his ass with votes to spare.
One of several reasons he dropped the whole Greenland thing when some here thought invasion was a done deal. There are limits and much of that is based on the perceptions of the people.
AllyCat
(18,929 posts)That old saying: Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
paleotn
(22,466 posts)AllyCat
(18,929 posts)To keep killing and abducting people.
Thats pretty damn defeatist.
paleotn
(22,466 posts)And I'm not talking about Dem congress critters. I'm talking about your statement. Don't run for cover.
AllyCat
(18,929 posts)Congress is not coming to save us.
Have a nice day.
paleotn
(22,466 posts)I get white hot with anger but cooler heads like yours must prevail.
COL Mustard
(8,313 posts)Don't throw ANYTHING. Evan a water balloon, or an egg, or a rotten tomato can be considered assault.
Do all the peaceful protesting you want, but for Pete's sake, stay nonviolent even in the face of their aggression.
Bengus81
(10,258 posts)There will always be a reason to keep the shit flying--just like Trump has ORDERED them to do.
Klarkashton
(5,360 posts)A judge told them to stop it in Minnesota and the bastards appealed it.
It makes no difference if you are peaceful or not.
Beringia
(5,546 posts)artemisia1
(1,897 posts)attack on those with the actual illness. RW'ers schizophrenia is one of character.
Emile
(42,726 posts)Emile
(42,726 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,749 posts)They had no reason to shoot anyone yesterday. The federal government of the United States turned their murder of a legally armed protester into an opportunity for NAZI Gnome to say brave ICE were only protecting themselves from an armed man who attacked them.
That is NAZI.
dalton99a
(94,792 posts)Seinan Sensei
(1,594 posts)RoseTrellis
(184 posts)If you choose to carry at these protests, which is your right, you really need to be extra cautious to not present yourself as a threat to LE. Really no different than informing the cops responsibly if you get pulled over.
Dont give them an excuse to execute them - resisting arrest can be fatal
Kid Berwyn
(24,749 posts)Who knows what today would be like had the little NAZI murderer and his enablers been held to account.
WokeAintWhatIAm
(34 posts)LANSING, Mich. (AP) Among the armed protesters who rallied at the Michigan Capitol against Gov. Gretchen Whitmers coronavirus lockdown this past spring were some of the men now accused in stunning plots to kidnap her, storm the Capitol and start a civil war.
October 10, 2020
Initech
(108,983 posts)Now they're telling us that it comes with an asterisk if you use it against the most tyrannical government in US history? They can go fuck all of the way off.
allegorical oracle
(6,513 posts)was brandishing at the door into where members of Congress were hiding for their lives. She's now a martyr mourned by djt, himself. "Laws for thee but not for me."
WokeAintWhatIAm
(34 posts)sop
(18,940 posts)BidenRocks
(3,397 posts)I noticed they are all so fucking brave while standing before street clothes wearing soft targets.
Take on ICE big talk! Or stfu!
sop
(18,940 posts)niyad
(133,262 posts)mzmolly
(52,808 posts)that has multiple restaurants and other eateries.
I hate this admin.
underpants
(196,862 posts)usonian
(26,009 posts)Frank Wilhoit: Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. This seems increasingly true.
CNYHarris
(149 posts)Fact Check: US Capitol attack insurrectionists had weapons, including firearms
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/us-capitol-attack-rioters-had-weapons-including-firearms-2025-01-16/
dlk
(13,289 posts)The execution of Alex Pretty was a traumatic reminder.
FormerOstrich
(2,891 posts)They are trying to take your GUNS away. They are trying to take away your right to carry.
Again....loudly. And Again, louder.
you get the picture I'm sure....messaging baby....messaging
gulliver
(14,037 posts)I realize it is intended to highlight hypocrisy, but, as I've said before, in these times, hypocrisy means absolutely nothing. Relying on people feeling "shamed" when they are called out as hypocrites, no matter how legitimately, is futile. That kind of foul call only works at lower social temperatures than we're in.
The Rittenhouse comparison is apt, but I don't see how that puts Pretti in a good light. Personally, I think they're both irresponsible idiots, Rittenhouse being the bigger idiot of the two. Rittenhouse displayed his gun, and that provoked the end result. Unacceptable as it was for Pretti to be carrying a concealed weapon at a peaceful protest, legally or not, he didn't display it.
My read of what happened is that Pretti's decision to carry the weapon made him very vulnerable to random misfortune in a situation where random misfortune (due to the inherent chaos of reality) was more likely to occur. He's far less culpable than Rittenhouse.
ChicagoTeamster
(1,109 posts)Jack Valentino
(5,156 posts)when gun-toting open-carrying anti-vaxxers basically took over the building----
but luckily no one was shot, and the Capital Police didn't interpret this
as an opportunity to "take someone down".....
oh wait, he said you can't take loaded guns to 'ANY sort of protest that you want'----
clearly they mean that you can take loaded guns to RIGHT-wing protests,
but NOT to left-wing or DECENT-wing protests!!!!!!
Got it.
Initech
(108,983 posts)Hell, they decided that a classroom full of murdered children was just an excuse to take away guns.
hadEnuf
(3,642 posts)All American's gun rights? No way.
You may also notice that the Republicans & MAGAs constantly refer to Democrats or others who do not support their Reich as "un-American" this and "un-American" that. Always "un-American".
So why would the NRA protect gun rights for people who are not "Americans"?
See where this is going?
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Martin68
(27,942 posts)Aussie105
(8,055 posts)The second amendment was written.
In 1791, the firearms landscape was dominated by smoothbore muzzle-loading weapons, primarily flintlock muskets, pistols, and fowling pieces.
So, to be totally accurate, only those weapons are legal.
And should only be in the hands of a well regulated militia.
And only be used in protecting the security of a free state.
The second amendment doesn't mention licensing of gun ownership, open and concealed carry, or when carrying a licenced firearm in public can get you killed.
Mmmm . . . I must be missing something there.
Must go back and read that second amendment again!
It must be there, I mean no one would distort the Constitution like that, would they?