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Surely this is a horrible time for us.
I've been trying to find the one issue that can explain to America what we protest about. I believe that it's "due process."
Minnesotan's are not law breakers. We are defending "due process." The ICE/Border Patrol actions have completely shredded the norms that we have come to expect from law enforcement. We are asking that people be arrested with warrants, that those arrested get access to legal counsel before appearing in court.
To those who say just let them do their jobs, I have to say, ICE/Border Patrol are not doing their jobs. They are taking short cuts that will become the norm if not challenged. That is why we are on the streets.
MontanaMama
(24,644 posts)I have this discussion daily. Had it last night with my husband and it escalated badly. I will refer to this and I appreciate you taking the time to write it down. Thank you. I wish you peace and safety.
MichMan
(16,869 posts)Since they received due process, immigrants who were denied asylum, those convicted of crimes, and those with active orders of removal, should be the only ones being deported by ICE.
rampartd
(4,228 posts)Chi67
(1,281 posts)I live in Chicago and they pulled a lot of the same shit here. It was horrible here, but its worse there! People who have not experienced this, dont quite understand how bad it really is.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,656 posts)variety of people now.
Trailrider1951
(3,574 posts)against the rule of tyrants. I'm out here on the left coast, but I'm with you in spirit.
NNadir
(37,525 posts)JHB
(38,057 posts)They're doing things the law says they can't do but their costume-wearing, ass-kissing political flunky boss tells them to do. For instance, ICE can't just stop traffic and try to enter people's vehicles, as they did at the Good shooting, without them having warrants for specific vehicles to apprehend specific people.
BaronChocula
(4,180 posts)Vanilla ICE is doing its job. They're carrying out their new mission under this regime to strike fear and terror in targeted communities by violating due process.
What's novel is that the orders are being carried out in a place like Middle America Minneapolis where we aren't used to seeing (white) people so under siege. Sadly, this is what it takes for a louder wake up call to those who didn't "think it would get as bad as all that." They were warned.
OldBaldy1701E
(10,629 posts)That should read poor white people.
I have yet to see a raid in Edina. Or in certain downtown sections.
So, it will not be enough to create the kind of action that is really needed.
It doesn't affect anyone of 'merit'.
BaronChocula
(4,180 posts)that the richer the community, the less likely it is that these deputized brownshirts would enter. But the image of even average white Americans being killed is bound to move a needle. More of the unaware will become aware. Those who are angry will become angrier. I'd be shocked if this didn't impact the upcoming vote of a some white women who voted for trump or legal gun owners who didn't vote at all.
So I guess I'm just focused on the political solution. But I also agree it would take a lot more to get a street uprising.
OldBaldy1701E
(10,629 posts)Let's hope that the needle moves sooner, rather than later.
BTW, I prefer your cereal over Frankie's.
But, BooBerry is my fave!
BaronChocula
(4,180 posts)Joinfortmill
(20,499 posts)Historic NY
(39,794 posts)even local cops are disgusted with them. They act like a good squad. Its time to send those Border patrol morons back to wetback patrol in Texas and the desert.
Qutzupalotl
(15,743 posts)so there can be accountability. No masks unless it's frigid, and give your name when asked.
electric_blue68
(26,386 posts)Mysterian
(6,241 posts)Would make a nice protest sign.
Six117
(313 posts)- are simply not paying attention. They are not law enforcement. They are not federal agents, they do not respect the US Constitution. There is no legitimacy of office or position to be respected here. They are killing people. They are thugs of the regime. Full stop.
And, this is not about immigration.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220968889
We would do better to strategize protecting ourselves, our loved ones and our communities. They do not deserve any benefit of doubt.
yellow dahlia
(5,202 posts)Every path leads to the Constitution.
live love laugh
(16,254 posts)Cha
(317,695 posts)Mahalo!
Sparkly
(24,867 posts)How these masked, armed thugs can just assault people -- throwing them to the ground, beating them, pepper-spraying them in their faces, and of course outright murdering them -- is beyond me. It's outrageous.
There are no excuses. "She/he was interfering" - no, they weren't. "They threw a snowball." Insane.
HeartsCanHope
(1,550 posts)Please stay safe!
calimary
(89,289 posts)Its gotta be so frustrating!!!
Scrivener7
(58,875 posts)LakeVermilion
(1,535 posts)You dont get to choose the time, but you get the opportunity, you have to answer. The Twin Cities have answered again.
It probably wont be the last time.
Martin68
(27,311 posts)We thank you for your support of democracy.
stollen
(1,063 posts)against fascism. That's how the city will be remembered after this is over.
Ocelot II
(129,722 posts)From Atlantic:
Again and again, I heard people say they were not protesters but protectorsof their communities, of their values, of the Constitution. Vice President Vance has decried the protests as engineered chaos produced by far-left activists working in tandem with local authorities. But the reality on the ground is both stranger and more interesting. The movement has grown much larger than the core of activists shown on TV newscasts, especially since the killing of Renee Good on January 7. And it lacks the sort of central direction that Vance and other administration officials seem to imagine.
At times, Minneapolis reminded me of what I saw during the Arab Spring in 2011, a series of street clashes between protesters and police that quickly swelled into a much larger struggle against autocracy. As in Cairos Tahrir Square, Minneapolis has seen a layered civic uprising where a vanguard of protesters has gained strength as many others who dont share progressive convictions joined in feeling, if not always in person. I heard the same tones of outrage from parents, ministers, school teachers, and elderly residents of an affluent suburb. Some of the quarrels that divided Minneapolis city leaders only a few weeks ago, over policing or Gaza or the budget, have faded as people have come together to oppose ICE.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/01/minneapolis-uprising/685755/
https://archive.is/iq74B
