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LakeVermilion

(1,535 posts)
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 11:53 AM Jan 25

I live in Minneapolis Metro area...

Surely this is a horrible time for us.

I've been trying to find the one issue that can explain to America what we protest about. I believe that it's "due process."

Minnesotan's are not law breakers. We are defending "due process." The ICE/Border Patrol actions have completely shredded the norms that we have come to expect from law enforcement. We are asking that people be arrested with warrants, that those arrested get access to legal counsel before appearing in court.

To those who say just let them do their jobs, I have to say, ICE/Border Patrol are not doing their jobs. They are taking short cuts that will become the norm if not challenged. That is why we are on the streets.

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I live in Minneapolis Metro area... (Original Post) LakeVermilion Jan 25 OP
Bookmarked. MontanaMama Jan 25 #1
Agreed MichMan Jan 25 #2
and even they must be treated humanely. rampartd Jan 25 #17
Agreed. Chi67 Jan 25 #3
ICE and CBP have always been about violent control. They're doing their jobs. They're just doing their jobs at a wider WhiskeyGrinder Jan 25 #4
yes, you are defending the rule of law Trailrider1951 Jan 25 #5
"Due Process" will be Noem's trial for murder. It's definitely "due." NNadir Jan 25 #6
They are also vastly exceeding their legal authority JHB Jan 25 #7
Yes, yes, yes (with one clarification) BaronChocula Jan 25 #8
Let's be honest here... OldBaldy1701E Jan 26 #25
I think we agree BaronChocula Jan 26 #28
You are correct, Baron! OldBaldy1701E Jan 26 #29
... BaronChocula Jan 26 #31
It's FASCISM! Joinfortmill Jan 25 #9
They aren't even following the law, or the constitution Historic NY Jan 25 #10
Also demand visible name badges Qutzupalotl Jan 25 #11
Strength, and Safety to you, your family and friends. And to all Minneapolisans. Such sadness, and anxiety. electric_blue68 Jan 25 #12
Yeah, patriotic Americans do not support secret police Mysterian Jan 25 #13
Whoever is saying let them do their jobs Six117 Jan 25 #14
I have often been focusing on the Constitution as the reason we are protesting, yellow dahlia Jan 25 #15
Being identifiable and UNMASKED is also part of due process. live love laugh Jan 25 #16
Excellent OP, LakeVermilion Cha Jan 25 #18
Yes, and it seems like 1st and 4th Amendment rights, especially, Sparkly Jan 25 #19
Thank you for standing up! HeartsCanHope Jan 25 #20
I'm so sorry you and your fellow Minnesotans have to go through this. calimary Jan 25 #21
I cannot imagine. I'm so sorry this is happening in your home. Scrivener7 Jan 25 #22
Sort of like the Ford worker... LakeVermilion Jan 25 #23
We all know and understand the cause Minnesotans are supporting. You are on the front lines now. It might be us next. Martin68 Jan 25 #24
Minneapolis is the first line of defence stollen Jan 26 #26
It's not a protest, it's bigger than that. It's a resistance. Ocelot II Jan 26 #27
K&R UTUSN Jan 26 #30

MontanaMama

(24,644 posts)
1. Bookmarked.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 12:13 PM
Jan 25

I have this discussion daily. Had it last night with my husband and it escalated badly. I will refer to this and I appreciate you taking the time to write it down. Thank you. I wish you peace and safety.

MichMan

(16,869 posts)
2. Agreed
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 12:26 PM
Jan 25

Since they received due process, immigrants who were denied asylum, those convicted of crimes, and those with active orders of removal, should be the only ones being deported by ICE.

Chi67

(1,281 posts)
3. Agreed.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 12:52 PM
Jan 25

I live in Chicago and they pulled a lot of the same shit here. It was horrible here, but it’s worse there! People who have not experienced this, don’t quite understand how bad it really is.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,656 posts)
4. ICE and CBP have always been about violent control. They're doing their jobs. They're just doing their jobs at a wider
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 12:53 PM
Jan 25

variety of people now.

Trailrider1951

(3,574 posts)
5. yes, you are defending the rule of law
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 12:55 PM
Jan 25

against the rule of tyrants. I'm out here on the left coast, but I'm with you in spirit.

JHB

(38,057 posts)
7. They are also vastly exceeding their legal authority
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 01:45 PM
Jan 25

They're doing things the law says they can't do but their costume-wearing, ass-kissing political flunky boss tells them to do. For instance, ICE can't just stop traffic and try to enter people's vehicles, as they did at the Good shooting, without them having warrants for specific vehicles to apprehend specific people.

BaronChocula

(4,180 posts)
8. Yes, yes, yes (with one clarification)
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 02:11 PM
Jan 25

Vanilla ICE is doing its job. They're carrying out their new mission under this regime to strike fear and terror in targeted communities by violating due process.

What's novel is that the orders are being carried out in a place like Middle America Minneapolis where we aren't used to seeing (white) people so under siege. Sadly, this is what it takes for a louder wake up call to those who didn't "think it would get as bad as all that." They were warned.





OldBaldy1701E

(10,629 posts)
25. Let's be honest here...
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 09:42 AM
Jan 26
"...we aren't used to seeing (white) people so under siege."


That should read poor white people.

I have yet to see a raid in Edina. Or in certain downtown sections.

So, it will not be enough to create the kind of action that is really needed.

It doesn't affect anyone of 'merit'.

BaronChocula

(4,180 posts)
28. I think we agree
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 01:19 PM
Jan 26

that the richer the community, the less likely it is that these deputized brownshirts would enter. But the image of even average white Americans being killed is bound to move a needle. More of the unaware will become aware. Those who are angry will become angrier. I'd be shocked if this didn't impact the upcoming vote of a some white women who voted for trump or legal gun owners who didn't vote at all.

So I guess I'm just focused on the political solution. But I also agree it would take a lot more to get a street uprising.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,629 posts)
29. You are correct, Baron!
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 02:40 PM
Jan 26

Let's hope that the needle moves sooner, rather than later.

BTW, I prefer your cereal over Frankie's.

But, BooBerry is my fave!

Historic NY

(39,794 posts)
10. They aren't even following the law, or the constitution
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 02:37 PM
Jan 25

even local cops are disgusted with them. They act like a good squad. Its time to send those Border patrol morons back to wetback patrol in Texas and the desert.

Qutzupalotl

(15,743 posts)
11. Also demand visible name badges
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 02:40 PM
Jan 25

so there can be accountability. No masks unless it's frigid, and give your name when asked.

Six117

(313 posts)
14. Whoever is saying let them do their jobs
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 06:00 PM
Jan 25

- are simply not paying attention. They are not law enforcement. They are not federal agents, they do not respect the US Constitution. There is no legitimacy of office or position to be respected here. They are killing people. They are thugs of the regime. Full stop.

And, this is not about immigration.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220968889

We would do better to strategize protecting ourselves, our loved ones and our communities. They do not deserve any benefit of doubt.

Sparkly

(24,867 posts)
19. Yes, and it seems like 1st and 4th Amendment rights, especially,
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 07:38 PM
Jan 25

How these masked, armed thugs can just assault people -- throwing them to the ground, beating them, pepper-spraying them in their faces, and of course outright murdering them -- is beyond me. It's outrageous.

There are no excuses. "She/he was interfering" - no, they weren't. "They threw a snowball." Insane.

LakeVermilion

(1,535 posts)
23. Sort of like the Ford worker...
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 10:52 PM
Jan 25

You don’t get to choose the time, but you get the opportunity, you have to answer. The Twin Cities have answered again.

It probably won’t be the last time.

Martin68

(27,311 posts)
24. We all know and understand the cause Minnesotans are supporting. You are on the front lines now. It might be us next.
Sun Jan 25, 2026, 11:40 PM
Jan 25

We thank you for your support of democracy.

Ocelot II

(129,722 posts)
27. It's not a protest, it's bigger than that. It's a resistance.
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 09:50 AM
Jan 26

From Atlantic:

Behind the violence in Minneapolis—captured in so many chilling photographs in recent weeks—is a different reality: a meticulous urban choreography of civic protest. You could see traces of it in the identical whistles the protesters used, in their chants, in their tactics, in the way they followed ICE agents but never actually blocked them from detaining people. Thousands of Minnesotans have been trained over the past year as legal observers and have taken part in lengthy role-playing exercises where they rehearse scenes exactly like the one I witnessed. They patrol neighborhoods day and night on foot and stay connected on encrypted apps such as Signal, in networks that were first formed after the 2020 killing of George Floyd.

Again and again, I heard people say they were not protesters but protectors—of their communities, of their values, of the Constitution. Vice President Vance has decried the protests as “engineered chaos” produced by far-left activists working in tandem with local authorities. But the reality on the ground is both stranger and more interesting. The movement has grown much larger than the core of activists shown on TV newscasts, especially since the killing of Renee Good on January 7. And it lacks the sort of central direction that Vance and other administration officials seem to imagine.

At times, Minneapolis reminded me of what I saw during the Arab Spring in 2011, a series of street clashes between protesters and police that quickly swelled into a much larger struggle against autocracy. As in Cairo’s Tahrir Square, Minneapolis has seen a layered civic uprising where a vanguard of protesters has gained strength as many others who don’t share progressive convictions joined in feeling, if not always in person. I heard the same tones of outrage from parents, ministers, school teachers, and elderly residents of an affluent suburb. Some of the quarrels that divided Minneapolis city leaders only a few weeks ago, over policing or Gaza or the budget, have faded as people have come together to oppose ICE.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/01/minneapolis-uprising/685755/
https://archive.is/iq74B
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