To me it has the feel of being pre planned

[303squadron]

I believe a group of Proud Boys were given permission to make an example, especially to those photographing events.

Their actions escalated the violence at every turn - deliberately.

They had no reason to shoot once they had removed the gun.

The promise of qualified immunity pulled the trigger.

Alex was dead as soon as he first walked out on the street and the agents spotted him filming.

Agents fled the scene and no one knows who they are. How exceptionally convenient.

[raccoon]

1. I think you may be on to something.

[Jim__]

2. Yes. ICE is there to terrorize the people.

[Attilatheblond]

34. Border Patrol too, This time it was BP doing the murder, wasn't it?

[Jim__]

38. You're right, it was BP.

[Attilatheblond]

42. It'd be handy if ICE & BP would each pick different gang colors so we could tell them apart easier.

[Bettie]

45. Interesting considering that Minneapolis is 250 miles from the nearest international border

and thus, BP has no jurisdiction there.

They can make an argument for ICE, but not for BP at this point.

Not that they care about silly things like laws.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

3. Only in the sense that the purpose of ICE is to terrorize and it always has been. When an institution's purpose is to

control and intimidate, every time it does so will feel "deliberate" and "planned." THIS IS WHAT THEY DO.

[B.See]

26. Donald Trump justifies the murders of Pretti and Good by calling these Americans 'domestic terrorists.'

Yet ICE is terrorizing American citizens because of Donald Trump. So who's the 'domestic terrorist?'

[Zackzzzz]

4. I got that feeling with Renee Good.

I had a strong feeling she was being stalked.

[enough]

5. The event a couple days ago where an officer sprayed teargas directly into

the face of a man who was pinned down on the ground by several ICE, that also looked planned.

[RockRaven]

6. Individual incidents need no specific planning when the whole machine is directed

towards that sort of end. Some such event becomes inevitable in those circumstances.

They constructed DHS/ICE/CBP to function in that manner, and so it does.

[Irish_Dem]

7. I believe they are paid a bonus for every death and video that ends up on TV.

[dlk]

8. Of course it was

They couldn’t wait to make an example of someone.

[doc03]

9. The one ICE guy ran up in the middle of the

scuffle grabbed Alex's gun then ran off and crouched behind a car., very strange.

[dlk]

10. No doubt, he was in a hurry to sell it

And didn’t want to get caught. It’s what criminals do.

[meadowlander]

11. They're testing the theory that a 2025 audience won't react to Kent State 2.0 if they run it in slow motion.

[delisen]

12. Law Enforcement fleeing the scene after a killing.....

Assassins anonymous.c

[EarlG]

13. I'm not sure the shooting was pre-planned in the sense that they knew they were going to

take out Alex Pretti ahead of time, on that specific day at that specific time. But as you say, at the very least, it seems clear that these agents are on a hair trigger. They're armed with lethal ammunition and encouraged to use force at every opportunity, rather than de-escalate situations. They probably pump each other up all day long about getting the chance to whack an "illegal" or a "libtard." And the signal has come down from the very top of the US government that they should consider themselves immune from any consequences.

So this specific murder might not have been pre-planned, but the circumstances that led to it were pre-planned, in the sense that if you cut the brakes on a train at the top of a hill, that train is inevitably going to derail at some point.

[PatSeg]

16. Exactly

They were expecting and encouraging violence so the administration would have an excuse to take over blue cities and states.

[Scruffy1]

25. Vance needs impeached for telling them they have absolute immunity.

That phrase is a signal to kill. To me he was ordering hit jobs. I would like to one recorder (some call them reporters) ask him the question to his face.

[Initech]

14. Kristi Noem purposefully recruited violent psychopaths to ICE.

This wasn't by accident - this was by design.

[littlemissmartypants]

20. Bingo.

[PatSeg]

15. "Qualified immunity pulled the trigger"

Well said. They have most literally been given a "license to kill". They are performing according to expectations.

[duhneece]

17. Who has the nurse's phone?

Have we seen what he was recording?

[Attilatheblond]

35. and who has his GUN?

Nothing like having a gun registered to someone else if you wanna do some gun criming, or might need a 'throw down' gun to leave with a body you just dropped yourself. That old 'he had a gun' thing goes far for a bad cop's defense of a bad shoot.

[haele]

18. It is pre-planned.

Push and push until someone snaps and an agent gets killed, then declare Martial Law, and f*** the Constitution.
This is the final push for reliance of the Businessmen's Revolt against FDR.
They keep wanting to pretend their version of Capitalism is the best, and they really hated giving up their influence (Banking, Mining, Fuel, and Infrastructure) cabal franchise of the Gilded age to the Prohibition Mobsters.
They're willing to burn down the world so they can die with the most power and toys. How dare the Plebs disrespect their Lineage or Wealth?

[littlemissmartypants]

19. They're thugs. It's an insult to true LEOs to call them ...

Law enforcement or officers of ANY KIND.

THUGS.

[FakeNoose]

21. Exactly - what ICE is doing now has no relation to Law Enforcement

They should be fired and prosecuted.

[littlemissmartypants]

22. The REAL local LEo's in Minneapolis are pissed.

Watch the interview Brennan had with the chief this morning.
Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara, first guest
https://www.cbsnews.com/face-the-nation/full-episodes/
Transcript
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/face-the-nation-full-transcript-01-25-2026/

[EdmondDantes_]

23. These idiots couldn't preplan bringing 4 wheel drive cars to Minnesota

They have the tactical awareness of a tree stump as evidenced by things like getting distracted and losing track of the delivery guy on a bike or a car at a gas station. They can't plan a team lunch much less an intentional murder. This is piss poor training, management screaming at them because Trump is screaming at their management, and the stress of realizing that most people hate them putting them in a position where they make murderous decisions because they lack the skills and the desire/ability to learn the correct skills to do better.

[Attilatheblond]

36. Looking at the soles of some of their shoes as they slide on their asses over ice shows they didn't plan footwear either

[Botany]

24. Murder was part of Stephen Miller's plan

These killings are no mistake or accident. Fascism is here. Proud boys, J-6th ers, bad cops that
Trump expunged their federal records, and patriot front shits are now ICE agents and Homeland Security
Security personnel they are not professional law enforcement but right wing thugs for America’s now dictator to bust heads, arrest citizens, and kill people.

[Attilatheblond]

37. When ya think on it a bit, the idiots in masks hurling gas canisters are actually victims themselves

Victims of Miller's program against everyone and victims of their own ignorance, arrogance, and greed. They are all broken tools that will eventually be dumped by the guys on top. Too friggen stupid to see how they are being set up.

What they need is therapy. But prison will work too. Just get 'em off OUR streets. And tell Miller to put on big boy pants and fight his own battles himself. Watch that chicken hawk run.

[markodochartaigh]

27. Lots of people were filming.

I do think that it is possible that ICE, at whatever level, was looking to stir things up, to take things to the next level. I think that it is possible that the agents saw that he had a gun and decided to target him specifically for that reason since they could more easily paint him as an instigator at the very least. When he first was down one of the agents can be heard asking "Where's the gun". Clearly it was not just the agent who grabbed the gun and walked away who knew that he had a gun. Perhaps they saw that he had a gun when he bent over to help the lady. Perhaps they have some technology which allows them to tell when someone has a gun on them.

Either way, I personally would never, ever, under any circumstances endanger myself or other protesters by carrying a gun in a protest. You will never come out on top of the police who are trained in tactics and firearm use, who act together and have infinite reinforcements, and who are almost certainly going to be judged to be "in the right" legally. The most that you could hope for is a settlement which pays to help bury you and hopefully helps your widow and orphans.
If there is some undercover agent provocateur, they are most likely either police or police adjacent. Following them and trying to identify them is all that you can do.

[Gaytano70]

28. They had statements ready minutes after the executions of Renee and Alex.

Maybe not targeted towards Renee and Alex specifically, but a generic "go assassinate some protesters for the dear leader" 🤬 All as pretense for declaring martial law if they push far enough and a whole crowd were to fight back violently 😫

[orangecrush]

29. State terror.

[SheltieLover]

30. He helped a woman the scum had shoved to the ground. RAPIST MENTALITY.

[SpankMe]

31. They're trying to provoke responses that will allow them to deploy the military. n/t

[TomSlick]

32. Of course it was.

The goal is to create a justification for invoking the Insurrection Act.

The bad news is that Trump will escalate until there is a violent reaction.

[calimary]

46. I think he's got at least one eye glued to the Insurrection Act.

At all times. So he’s ready to invoke it - at ALL times.

[LiberalArkie]

33. If Jan 6 was planned, if DOGE was planned, if Obama not being able to appoint judges, if Tea Party was planned,

if MAGA was planned then more than likely all this was planned.

[mzmolly]

39. Notice how they're shooting the victims multiple times?

This definitely seems like the thugs are carrying out orders.

[FakeNoose]

40. Another DUer suggested this:

Maybe they've got orders that if one of them shoots, they should all get in on it. That way, no one person gets blamed for being "the killer." I don't know how I feel about this. It sounds too much like a circular firing squad.

[mzmolly]

41. I think there was one shooter?

But to shoot when somebody’s no longer a threat seems odd. Is there a bounty on the number of bullets they can put into someone’s body? Why were they counting the bullet wounds on Alex Pretti?

[FakeNoose]

43. Good point, there haven't been any details, and they'll never name the killer

Witnesses reported up to 10 shots were fired, and I doubt they were all from the same weapon.

[OLDMDDEM]

44. You make very good points. Thank you.