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By Daniel Hampton
Published January 27, 2026 7:15 PM ET
Ghislaine Maxwell, the accomplice of Jeffrey Epstein, may be serving time in a cushy Texas federal prison, but the convicted child sex trafficker just detonated a political time bomb from behind bars, according to a new Daily Beast report Tuesday.
In a recent habeas petition, Maxwell dropped a bombshell claim that four potential "co-conspirators" and "25 men" scored "secret settlements" tied to Epstein's abuse without facing any indictment.
The report said Attorney General Pam Bondi and the Justice Department are doing everything possible to avoid one glaring question: "Who are these men, and why are they still being protected?"
https://www.rawstory.com/ghislaine-maxwell-2675052422/
Raven123
(7,707 posts)Should
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SergeStorms
(20,287 posts)just like Epstein did, if she makes any such threat. Of course there will be a 60 second "gap" in her surveillance videos.
Those damned surveillance cameras are always malfunctioning these days!
onenote
(46,090 posts)Bev54
(13,368 posts)onenote
(46,090 posts)Bev54
(13,368 posts)She knows everything but what do you actually think happened with her "interview" with Blanche? It certainly wasn't her threatening the admin.
Raven123
(7,707 posts)KS Toronado
(23,520 posts)MadameButterfly
(3,929 posts)what podcast?
onenote
(46,090 posts)Does she know the names of men who had sex with the girls she procured for Epstein? Almost certainly. But does she know the names or details of the private, confidential settlements reached between some of Epstein's victims and those men -- almost certainly not. Who would have told her? The men? The lawyers for the victims?
Her claim is that she was selectively prosecuted because settlements were reached with these men and she wasn't told about it before or during her criminal case a few years later.
MadameButterfly
(3,929 posts)By that logic everyone accused of a crime should get off.
We'll see how this goes for her.
FakeNoose
(41,025 posts)
SheltieLover
(78,973 posts)AKwannabe
(6,888 posts)After they off her.
Riiiiiiiiiiight
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ToxMarz
(2,849 posts)And that it has been made it known they do so offing her won't get rid of the problem. I'm sure she's already thought of that.
LiberalArkie
(19,574 posts)Wednesdays
(22,129 posts)Such as a thick file tucked away in a safe deposit box. Accessible to several unknown informers.
The goons can kill off some. But they won't be able to kill everybody.
LiberalArkie
(19,574 posts)He would have definitely had one. He would have had backup files stored somewhere. But nothing has appeared
RVN VET71
(3,171 posts)Her murder was never seriously investigated because the U.S. Government wasn't even there at the time, or something, and there was no convenient scapegoat to take the heat for the killing. I always felt Karen Silkwood may well have been an unsung hero and, certainly, a victim of knowing too much.
Meanwhile, team-rapist Maxwell is a person as filthy and vile and evil as Epstein, but she may have some cards to play to stay alive. She's already gotten herself transferred to a soft-time prison and, though a slimy pig, may have set up a protective wall of blackmail around herself to ward off the wealthy pedophile pieces of excrement from executing her.
BComplex
(9,831 posts)At this point, it's obvious the cover up goes deeper than the depths of hell.
dflprincess
(29,272 posts)if not an outright pardon.
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,299 posts)... trying to buy/influence her way out.
Volaris
(11,594 posts)If she walks, she better have her OWN private island to go live on; she won't be safe anywhere civilized people live.
blueknight73
(332 posts)She is using this to try to get an official " get out of jail free card " . I wouldn't be surprised if she has an "accident " in her cell.
AZJonnie
(3,373 posts)The 29 dudes all called her up to tell her about their secret settlements, because, why?
And what were the nature of these "settlements"? Who offered them? What did they entitle the recipients TO?
If you want my opinion, she probably got this off some shady internet CT site.
This scumbag has lied her ass off ALL ALONG. I'm not inclined to start believing her now, and ESPECIALLY do not trust her motives
ETA: Let me also add that a main Maxwell "angle" all along has basically been "the agreement for the non-prosecution of people involved with Epstein (from the 2008 case) should protect me too, I'm only in trouble because I'm a women and they're all powerful men". I would bet money that this 25 number is meant to be a count of the number of "men" who supposedly WERE allowed to "skate" because of that same 2008 non-prosecution agreement.
If you think this some kind of "coming clean", or "exposure of the guilty" you, it is almost certainly not. It's much more likely to be another salvo in a legal angle she's been working for many years. Now her lawyers are just adding a count/number because it sounds better. She's also ranted about corrupt jurors, corrupt prosecutors who were in cahoots with the victims lawyers, etc etc etc.
To be clear I'm not saying some men (or even women, such as Virginia Giuffre) didn't "skate" pursuant to that NPA because I really don't know.
But neither does she.
dpibel
(3,843 posts)"If you want my opinion, she probably got this off some shady internet CT site."
Sure, it's your opinion.
But what facts do you have to back it up?
And what is your basis for this: "If you think this some kind of "coming clean", or "exposure of the guilty" you, it is almost certainly not."
Rules for me but not for thee?
And, just to be clear, you're suggesting that Virginia Giuffre was subject to prosecution, but for the NPA? That's a new one on me.
AZJonnie
(3,373 posts)Her books says it's her greatest regret, etc.
So, yeah, if the cops wanted to be assholes, they could have prosecuted her as well. It's not like there's a carveout in the law that says being a paid member of a minor sex trafficking ring is totally A-OK if you're only 17 (and perhaps of note, she didn't leave Epstein's orbit until she was over 18). Legally, she self-admittedly was "part of the ring", we (rightly) choose to deem her innocent because she was groomed by Epstein.
That's not to say that the NPA *is* why she wasn't (again you'll notice I did not claim she wasn't, only that maybe she was), but it's not like it's unthinkable. There's exactly 4 people who were expressly listed in that NPA. And they were all 4 women.
You'll notice that in EVERY quote you're bringing up here, I'm allowing for the possibility that I'm wrong. And like I said, Maxwell has been working that NPA angle all along, and my guess, which I'm clear on ... is that what she's actually claiming is that "25 men" benefitted from the NPA, but not her, pursuant to her long-time claims that her prosecution and trial was corrupted.
You know, by Garland and Biden's DoJ
dpibel
(3,843 posts)I don't think you can claim to be based entirely on truth and facts and then engage in whatever speculation you see fit.
Although I suppose I'm fine with that as long as you never upbraid anyone else for expressing opinions that are supported by "I think this makes sense."
As ever, I am fascinated by your fascination with the Epstein matter, and think, but am not sure, I know what your angle on it is.
AZJonnie
(3,373 posts)It is based on the fact that I've followed this case very closely (even I am not sure why except there's a great deal of intrigue involved) ever since the 2017 Herald article. I know a lot of details, and I've considered everything I've learned with a very critical eye, and shied away from the larger-scale conspiracy theories.
I stipulate my assessments could still be wrong, as I must under the circumstances, but these are not random things I'm pulling from my rear end, I assure you.
I've alluded to and explained in many different ways over the past 8 months or so what my "angle" is. I don't buy into a lot of what other people take as gospel surrounding this case, particularly the "big pedo cabal" theory, rather, I think it's much more likely that Epstein kept the fact that he was abusing minors by paying them for sex mostly hidden (except from Trump, he OBVIOUSLY knew exactly what Epstein was up to). In fact, I'm not entirely convinced anyone else directly "partook", shall we say? It's possible, but I doubt it's to nearly the scale that many people seem to accept as fact.
But another part of my angle is that I don't think Biden's DOJ just sat on a bunch of blatant evidence (esp. not that's going to "come out" in Trump's Epstein files release), and I don't believe Virginia Guiffre's claims that she was forced by Epstein into sex with Senators George Mitchell and Bill Richardson as she claimed. By this I mean I don't believe that (sex) happened between her and those two men, to be clear.
Gaugamela
(3,405 posts)Second, Virginia Giuffre was a victim, not someone who skated because of the NPA.
Third, you say: I would bet money that this 25 number is meant to be a count of the number of "men" who supposedly WERE allowed to "skate" because of that same 2008 non-prosecution agreement. Well yeah, thats explicitly what shes alleging. Its the whole point of the article. Theres nothing to bet on.
Fourth, nobody trusts Ghislaine Maxwell. Of course youre going to take it with a huge grain of salt.
Fifth, the reason everyone got a NPA is they were involved or at least peripherally involved in intelligence work. CIA, Mossad, MI6. And since Ghislaine Maxwell was a close friend and confidant and co-conspirator of Epsteins up until his death, it is not out of the question that she would be familiar with the details of the NPA, as it would be central to everything they were up to and affected her directly. Epstein would know about the details because of his intelligence connections.
It is widely believed that the Washington Post got the Epstein birthday book page from Maxwells lawyers. It would make no sense for her to allege made-up nonsense because Trump and the DOJ know what the truth is. Maxwell knows Trump is about to die and she will use everything she has to get a pardon, but made up lies would have zero leverage.
AZJonnie
(3,373 posts)"Third ... Well yeah, thats explicitly what shes alleging. Its the whole point of the article. Theres nothing to bet on."
Except this rawstory article says no such thing. Go read it. Its headline also says "payments" when no such thing is actually alleged.
"It is widely believed that the Washington Post got the Epstein birthday book page from Maxwells lawyers"
Actually, we know it was the Wall Street Journal, and that it came from the Epstein estate
"Fifth, the reason everyone got a NPA is they were involved or at least peripherally involved in intelligence work."
Well, there is also the fact that there's four people explicitly named as being excluded pursuant to that NPA, and those are Epstein's female assistants running his Estates and businesses in various purviews: Sarah Kellen, Adriana Ross, Lesley Groff, and Nadia Marcinkova.
Its safe to assume that these four women in some sense benefitted from the NPA, not that any of them were necessarily "guilty", but perhaps the NPA was to grant them immunity hoping they'd tell authorities what they knew about what Epstein was up to, and that hopefully others would similarly come forward, given this NPA? ETA: admittedly, this is a bit backwards if it were their intent, they could've put the squeeze on the women instead and it seems like Acosta et al did not approach it that way. At minimum they were glad-handing that fucker, but I'm not 100 this is not just because he's was a rich, connected asshole with plenty of money for the best lawyers.
However, we the public have never known for a fact that anyone else avoided prosecution vis-a-vis this NPA, only that Maxwell tried, and failed. 15 years too fucking late to have been a part of what the intent of the NPA actually was.
My bet is that Maxwell is blowing smoke, she has no idea if anyone else skated due to the NPA apart from the 4 women who were in it. I guess we'll see, won't we? If I'm wrong, I promise to admit it. I do it ALL THE TIME here and elsewhere
BComplex
(9,831 posts)This is so convoluted, I'm pretty sure nobody will ever know the complete truth.
Gaugamela
(3,405 posts)contribution. Trump then brought a lawsuit for defamation. A month or so later the House Oversight Committee subpoenaed the Epstein Estate and produced the actual book. My point is that the WSJ obtained their information through a leak, which came most likely from Ghislaine Maxwell via her lawyers. My larger point is that Ghislaine Maxwell very likely knows a very large amount of damaging information on Trump. Shes playing a strong hand. She doesnt need to make up random allegations, which if she did would actually undermine her position.
FakeNoose
(41,025 posts)Mark Epstein had the birthday book and provided it to the media. The book was created by Ghislaine Maxwell for Jeffrey's birthday, so of course she knows what's in the book. Maybe she made a copy of the book for herself? I don't know.
Ghislaine was more than just a former girlfriend of Jeffrey's. She participated in his blackmail business and functioned as a personal secretary for his pedophile activities. This meant she wrangled the high-school-age girls for his enjoyment, as well as training them in what they needed to do. She was a full partner and had to know the details, even if she didn't get financial benefit from them.
I believe Ghislaine must have gotten a share of Jeffrey's profits in the blackmail business. Otherwise she would have told the truth about him ages ago. She was with him in New York and also in West Palm Beach, but I don't know if she participated in the Virgin Island Lolita Express activities. Even if she didn't go to the island, she knew who received invitations and who participated.
I believe I read that after Jeffrey's "soft" conviction in West Palm Beach in 2008, Ghislaine pulled back and had less to do with Jeffrey's illegal activities. She stayed in New York and he tried to shield her from getting pulled into the pedophile investigation. Eventually she left his employ altogether, some time after the Giuffre lawsuit was settled.
Gaugamela
(3,405 posts)https://abcnews.go.com/US/epstein-estate-failed-turn-documents-victims-attorneys/story?id=70757007
Maxwell was Epsteins accomplice in the whole operation, participated in the sexual abuse, and was very much present on the island. She was a helicopter pilot and flew Epstein and victims to and from the island. She was also a master diver and piloted Epsteins sub. Obviously she profited from the sex trafficking operation. If she distanced herself from Epstein it was likely for show only. Among the documents released by the House committee were emails between her and Epstein dating from Trumps first term.
What exactly was supplied to the WSJ we dont know, but the WSJ would not have run the story without substantial and irrefutable proof. Maybe it was a photo of the book and the page in question.
FakeNoose
(41,025 posts)IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,299 posts)... her and her daddy's Mossad connections, amongst others.
AZJonnie
(3,373 posts)Running a honeypot/entrapment operation rather the situation having been a "powerful pedo cabal". There are some interesting theories and tidbits of evidence that hint at that possibility, lets just say.
Here where I've come down on this idea after a good bit of consideration. I think it's possible that it "started that way" in some sense, but their "mission" if you will was not one that was meant to involve minors. Powerful people stepping out on their wives with young (but legal) models, and feeding some intelligent outfit the dirt from that? I think that's not impossible.
But I think Epstein and Maxwell were sick fucks, and their handlers might not have known how to deal with it when they started "going too far", paying minors for sex, and possibly even dangling them in front of "targets". In 2008 they got "covered for" because the operation as a whole, even without minors, was shady-ass shit but JE/GM knew they'd be covered for for that very reason. I also think that is not an impossible scenario.
Very conspiratorial and very much hypothetical, but I don't reject it completely due to some things we know were said in the past by various players, and the fact that Epstein had a reportedly VERY official Saudi Arabian passport, like the kind that only governments can provide.
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,299 posts)... he had contacts with every intelligence agency in the western world.
Treat yourself. Google "maxwell mossad" and see what the AI (cough, choke) comes up with:
"AI Overview
Robert Maxwell, the controversial media mogul, had alleged deep connections with Israel's intelligence agency, Mossad, potentially acting as a facilitator for their operations, including aiding in arms deals and distributing bugged software (PROMIS) for global spying, with suspicions he was a complex, potentially triple-agent, linking him to various intelligence services, though his true loyalties remained ambiguous.
Key Connections & Allegations:
1948 War: Maxwell's influence with Czech communist leaders helped arm Israel during the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, a vital assistance for the nascent state.
PROMIS Software: He allegedly distributed a compromised version of the PROMIS software, allowing Israeli intelligence to spy on governments and financial institutions, even selling it to US nuclear labs like Sandia and Los Alamos.
Intelligence Web: Maxwell had documented links to British MI6, Soviet KGB, and Mossad, leading the British Foreign Office to suspect him as a foreign agent, possibly a double or triple agent.
Agent or Asset?: While he clearly served Israeli interests, some sources suggest he might have been a double agent, playing multiple sides, complicating his role.
In essence, Robert Maxwell was deeply entangled with intelligence operations, particularly for Israel's Mossad, using his vast network and influence for their strategic advantage, though his own allegiances were murky."
rampartd
(4,401 posts)and had ears in the prosecutors/ judges offices.
maxwell knows who epstein's extortees are.
i am surprised she has lived as long as she has while being in custody under the current justice department.
rampartd
(4,401 posts)AZJonnie
(3,373 posts)I suppose it's *possible* but the reason I lean against it is that attempting to leverage the privilege implied by the open-ended verbiage of the 2008 non-prosecution agreement (in terms of who it applied to) was Maxwell's gambit to avoid prosecution from the START. I.E. as soon as she was indicted, "I'm included by the NPA" was her and her lawyer's immediate angle, and they argued it at the time. In the end she lost, and the prosecution went forward, obviously. At no point in the filings did her team make any claim of knowing that X number of other individuals (e.g. 25 men) had availed themselves of the privileges of the NPA (at least, not that is known, I will stipulate to).
If she DID have knowledge thereof, disclosing that information at that time was unquestionably THE TIME to do it. This would been a make or break point. If she could show that other adult abusers of the teen girls in her and Epstein's ring were protected under the BPA's terms, but not her? That would be obvious top level Exhibit A, Line 1 kinda shit. But she did not assert such, in any way, from all I've been able to dig up.
That leaves 2 possibilities, I suppose, which are a) she knew of the 25, but for some reason felt afraid to reveal it, or b) she has since come to know, or believe she knows, through some source, while in the federal pen.
So, thinking about the first possibility, my immediate thought is these people are already immune, by definition, that's the whole point. And the very authorities she's talking to are part of the entity (the DoJ) who would have extended that immunity, she's not telling them something they don't already know. She's not "exposing" anybody to new legal jeopardy by asserting that "I know you gave immunity to 25 men already". And she could've done so in that very way, not naming names, just saying "I know that happened" and they'd have had no real way of knowing she didn't actually know that. My overall, best-guess assessment would be if she could've made the argument that if 25 men were extended immunity prior to her case, that's what she would have done at the time, especially if she actually knew who they were.
The 2nd possibility seems unlikely on its face, but I think it's logical to presume that if she somehow came to know it while IN prison, then this information was almost surely fed to her by the current, non-Biden DoJ. Perhaps they discovered these "immunizations" in records they uncovered while trying to do all the redactions? IF that's the case, then it implies Trump/Bondi are actively trying to help her. I mean, how else could she come to know with ANY certainty, other than if it came from a DoJ back channel?
Which means, firstly, she's not going to be "Epsteined" as so many people on this thread are bandying about. Secondly, it doesn't mean it's actually true, because DoJ leadership are pathological liars. They'd lie to Maxwell just like they'd lie to anyone else. They could just feed her a list of 100% Democrats who Trump doesn't like, IOW. Thirdly, I would guess that the only way this gambit could work for her before the appeals board (or whoever reviews the current, new petition) is if she has a very good answer for the question "why are you just coming to us now, years hence, to make this argument about the NPA, when you did not for the past 4 or 5 years? And who exactly are you saying was previously immunized?". And what is she going to say then? And how could she possibly prove it?
In this theoretical where she's come to know of the 25 since her incarceration, the implication is almost surely that the Trump DoJ no longer cares to protect the 25 men. But they've, to date, shown no signs that they're throwing the flood gates open in this way. So if she's actually making this claim after having known all along, but not talking until now? That would imply she's defying Trump by making this claim. The guy who got her transferred to the cushy prison, her long-time friend. The guy who could, with the stroke of a pen, have her pardoned? I deem that unlikely, but possible, I suppose.
Anyways, to me it very much feels like the most likely thing that's going on is that this is a proverbial moonshot. She knew if she said this in her filing, it would be news, perhaps big news. Everyone in Trump's orbit is a pathological narcissist and liar. I think the most-likely scenario is that she's just trying to shake SOMETHING lose, and to have people talking about her. I think if she'd know about the 25 men all along, she'd have tried to make this point in her initial filings, she'd have leveraged that knowledge when there was actually a small chance of it working.
So I guess, let's see what happens next. I've made my bet about what I think is probably going on. I think the least likely scenario is that she's known all along, and has now suddenly decided to cross Trump (like everyone is hoping, it seems) and spilling the beans, but if I'm wrong, I will make a mea culpa post admitting I was wrong. I promise!
FakeNoose
(41,025 posts)... she knows how to play the game. Her dad was Robert Maxwell, a name that even Chump regards with respect.
The assumption is that Ghislaine received knowledge and spy training from her father. Who knows? Maybe she was the one who showed Jeffrey how to blackmail these extremely wealthy fuckers like Les Wexner etc. She wasn't raised Jewish but her father was a spy for Moshad. All I'm saying is that she was no "society dame," she was right there in the dirt along with Jeffrey. And her father might have been giving her pointers all along.
She probably has the goods on Chump. The question is, how does she play this game from prison, without getting "Epsteined"?
a kennedy
(35,674 posts)🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬
Easterncedar
(5,926 posts)rubbersole
(11,135 posts)One thing seems glaringly obvious. Important people are willing to go to WW3 rather than have the truth get out. I'm surprised someone hasn't leaked the raunchy stuff yet.
ananda
(34,663 posts)Is it a one-day wonder that reaches a few...
or does it have legs.
Deuxcents
(26,277 posts)If true, she been withholding information and/or shes lying.
Shipwack
(3,035 posts)Attilatheblond
(8,585 posts)Wants pardon NOW. The blackmail will get wilder. Many very rich pedophiles will be wiring money to secret accounts and sending messages to the Pardoner in Chief.
Escape
(420 posts)Trump is protecting her now because she knows too much. When he's gone (dead, nuts, removed from office) she loses any chance of a pardon.
She is probably panicking watching his dismal performance, deteriorating mental and physical health and devastating poll numbers.
This could get interesting..
Kid Berwyn
(23,867 posts)Don't forget the banking transactions.
Attilatheblond
(8,585 posts)and offshore accounts
Wounded Bear
(64,064 posts)Javaman
(65,484 posts)randr
(12,637 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(10,818 posts)It is funny when the press asks questions that they really don't want to actually have answered.
They re among the most wealthy and powerful men in the world. That is why they don't want to actually name anyone who might use that power to... change the parameters?
There will be governments that will change as a result of this information. Very powerful men are going to be in big trouble (assuming they are even charged with anything... they are the power, after all) and will fight to stay out of it.
That information will never be released unless someone sneaks in there, manages to find the trove of data that makes up these 'files', and then does their civic duty.
I, for one, hope they are released. I love watching cockroaches running amok because the light came on. Especially the big ones.
The only thing I love even more is when they get squashed. It can make a mess sometimes, but cleaning it up is soooo satisfying.
Grins
(9,362 posts)onenote
(46,090 posts)First, this allegation about secret settlements is not something "just" made. It was contained in Maxwell's habeas corpus petition that was filed with the court over a month ago.
Second, she cites as support for the allegation about 25 secret settlements a podcast that occurred months before that.
Third, she doesn't claim to know who these "25 men" are -- quite the opposite since, as noted above, she claims she just learned that there were settlements.
Folks might do well to read her filing, if they can make it through it since it's almost unreadable, before leaping in with assumptions.
Her filing can be found here.
https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/ghislaine-maxwell-pro-se-motion-to-vacate-combined_compressed.pdf
bluestarone
(21,814 posts)Non disclosure agreements? Is the penalty only lose all of future (and maybe all past payments?) If so maybe with all the money being spent on all this bullshit, just ( gather trusted billionaires) to offer DOUBLE the amounts and future hiding identity? Hell, if i knew 100% this would get all this epstein bullshit finally released, i'd donate as well.
reACTIONary
(7,088 posts)... not non disclosure agreements. But after reading the commentary here, I've got the impression this is just more raw story Epstein click bait, so I'm not going to look into it further.
Sneederbunk
(17,376 posts)MadameButterfly
(3,929 posts)There have to be a lot of people who could name names if it wasn't so dangerous
Coldwater
(1,178 posts)
aggiesal
(10,685 posts)And TheDailyBeast.com has a paywall.
Is there any other link that could collaborate this story?
Blue Owl
(58,735 posts)NOW!!!
malaise
(294,734 posts)After the break