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turbinetree

(27,325 posts)
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 07:33 PM Jan 27

Epstein accomplice drops courtroom bombshell: 25+ secret payoffs with no criminal charges

By Daniel Hampton
Published January 27, 2026 7:15 PM ET

Ghislaine Maxwell, the accomplice of Jeffrey Epstein, may be serving time in a cushy Texas federal prison, but the convicted child sex trafficker just detonated a political time bomb from behind bars, according to a new Daily Beast report Tuesday.

In a recent habeas petition, Maxwell dropped a bombshell claim that four potential "co-conspirators" and "25 men" scored "secret settlements" tied to Epstein's abuse — without facing any indictment.

The report said Attorney General Pam Bondi and the Justice Department are doing everything possible to avoid one glaring question: "Who are these men, and why are they still being protected?"

https://www.rawstory.com/ghislaine-maxwell-2675052422/

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Epstein accomplice drops courtroom bombshell: 25+ secret payoffs with no criminal charges (Original Post) turbinetree Jan 27 OP
Are we to assume she is threatening to name names? Raven123 Jan 27 #1
She 3auld6phart Jan 27 #11
I bet you she'll "suicide" herself.... SergeStorms Jan 28 #30
She doesn't know the names. She claims she just learned about the settlements from a podcast. onenote Jan 28 #39
Bullshit, she knows EVERYTHING Bev54 Jan 28 #46
Did you read her habeas petition? Of course you didn't. onenote Jan 28 #47
Of course I didn't, why would I read her lies. Bev54 Jan 28 #48
Thank you. So her statement is hearsay and therefore nonsense Raven123 Jan 28 #54
She knows all the names, plus she lies about everything KS Toronado Jan 28 #56
Then why are we learning about this from her? MadameButterfly Jan 28 #58
According to her filing: The "Interesting Lawyers Podcast" onenote Jan 28 #60
Good grief MadameButterfly Jan 28 #65
This is it, guys! She going to name names FakeNoose Jan 27 #2
Or get epsteined SheltieLover Jan 27 #3
Riiiiiiiiight! AKwannabe Jan 27 #6
I would bet her lawyer (or someone else} has the information ToxMarz Jan 27 #8
Not if her lawyers had traffic accidents first LiberalArkie Jan 27 #10
There's likely a "dead man's switch" Wednesdays Jan 27 #23
Epstein was smart in tech. Epstein would have had a dead mans file somewhere. With the people he dealt with. LiberalArkie Jan 28 #42
Just like Karen Silkwood, huh? RVN VET71 Jan 28 #36
Her lawyer could be getting paid by those very same people. BComplex Jan 28 #43
She's angling for clemancy dflprincess Jan 27 #18
My first thought... IthinkThereforeIAM Jan 27 #24
Yep. Shes DARING trump to keep her locked up. Volaris Jan 27 #28
I disagree blueknight73 Jan 27 #22
And she knows about these "settlements" (not necessarily equivalent to "payouts", rawstory headline writers) how? AZJonnie Jan 27 #4
facts/accuracy/science? dpibel Jan 27 #9
She said herself that she feared prosecution and has admitted taking money for bringing her friends into the ring AZJonnie Jan 27 #14
This is not that hard dpibel Jan 27 #15
This is not "whatever speculation I see fit" AZJonnie Jan 27 #27
In the first place, her lawyer quit and she wrote and filed the petition herself. Gaugamela Jan 27 #13
The reason I mentioned Guiffre is in post 14 above, hopefully that clears it up. AZJonnie Jan 27 #16
I thought they got the birthday book from the Epstein estate, not Ghislaine Maxwell. BComplex Jan 28 #45
The Wall Street Journal reported on the book first, specifically mentioning Trump's Gaugamela Jan 28 #49
The "Epstein Estate" is Jeffrey's only brother Mark Epstein FakeNoose Jan 28 #61
The Epstein Estate is managed by two Epstein associates, his lawyer and his accountant. Gaugamela Jan 28 #62
Good info. Thanks! FakeNoose Jan 28 #66
And as soon as she gets out she will skip the country... IthinkThereforeIAM Jan 27 #26
Maybe! I have to admit I've long been intrigued by the possibility of Epstein and Maxwell being intel agents AZJonnie Jan 27 #29
That is exactly the niche that Robert Maxwell developed... IthinkThereforeIAM Jan 28 #55
these people were in contact with each other rampartd Jan 28 #32
surprised poozwah Jan 28 #38
trump likes her. rampartd Jan 28 #44
Theoretically, maybe? AZJonnie Jan 28 #53
Don't ever discount Ghislaine FakeNoose Jan 28 #69
WHEN ARE WE EVER GONNA FIND OUT!!!!!!! a kennedy Jan 27 #5
Kick kick kick Easterncedar Jan 27 #7
Still, talk is cheap. Could be true or not. rubbersole Jan 27 #12
My big question is how newsworthy this is across the nation. ananda Jan 27 #17
If true, she's playing a very dangerous game. If true, why hasn't she done this before now? Deuxcents Jan 27 #19
She's either getting impatient or suicidal. nt Shipwack Jan 27 #20
Likely she DOES read or watch the news, sees her pardon disappearing as Trump mob crashes & burns Attilatheblond Jan 28 #40
I hadn't thought of that angle.... Escape Jan 28 #68
Pam Bondi! Let's see the records. Kid Berwyn Jan 27 #21
Includ her own banking transactions Attilatheblond Jan 28 #41
I'll take "Who's next to be Epsteined? for $1000" Alex... Wounded Bear Jan 27 #25
she's turning up the heat to get a pardon. nt Javaman Jan 28 #31
I'd bet anything that he is on the list randr Jan 28 #33
"Who are these men, and why are they still being protected?" OldBaldy1701E Jan 28 #34
Hate this "Epstein accomplice" shit. Can't you just say "Ghislaine Maxwell?" Grins Jan 28 #35
Hyped story -- not new information. She doesn't know who these alleged settlements were with. onenote Jan 28 #37
Just thinking here, so i have to ask you,What is the penalty if the person,(persons) that signed these supposed bluestarone Jan 28 #52
I think these are (alleged) non prosecution agreements... reACTIONary Jan 28 #64
The victims have it withn their ability to name names. Sneederbunk Jan 28 #50
But we need them alive MadameButterfly Jan 28 #59
Pam Bondi inaction figure Coldwater Jan 28 #51
The only link I could find on this story is the TheDailyBeast.com link buried in the RawStory.com link ... aggiesal Jan 28 #57
RELEASE. THE. GOD. DAMNED. FILES. Blue Owl Jan 28 #63
Ari discussion coming up malaise Jan 28 #67

SergeStorms

(20,287 posts)
30. I bet you she'll "suicide" herself....
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 07:00 AM
Jan 28

just like Epstein did, if she makes any such threat. Of course there will be a 60 second "gap" in her surveillance videos.

Those damned surveillance cameras are always malfunctioning these days!

onenote

(46,090 posts)
39. She doesn't know the names. She claims she just learned about the settlements from a podcast.
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 08:50 AM
Jan 28

Bev54

(13,368 posts)
48. Of course I didn't, why would I read her lies.
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 10:46 AM
Jan 28

She knows everything but what do you actually think happened with her "interview" with Blanche? It certainly wasn't her threatening the admin.

onenote

(46,090 posts)
60. According to her filing: The "Interesting Lawyers Podcast"
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 03:31 PM
Jan 28
https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/ghislaine-maxwell-pro-se-motion-to-vacate-combined_compressed.pdf

Does she know the names of men who had sex with the girls she procured for Epstein? Almost certainly. But does she know the names or details of the private, confidential settlements reached between some of Epstein's victims and those men -- almost certainly not. Who would have told her? The men? The lawyers for the victims?

Her claim is that she was selectively prosecuted because settlements were reached with these men and she wasn't told about it before or during her criminal case a few years later.

MadameButterfly

(3,929 posts)
65. Good grief
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 05:58 PM
Jan 28

By that logic everyone accused of a crime should get off.
We'll see how this goes for her.

ToxMarz

(2,849 posts)
8. I would bet her lawyer (or someone else} has the information
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 08:34 PM
Jan 27

And that it has been made it known they do so offing her won't get rid of the problem. I'm sure she's already thought of that.

Wednesdays

(22,129 posts)
23. There's likely a "dead man's switch"
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 10:34 PM
Jan 27

Such as a thick file tucked away in a safe deposit box. Accessible to several unknown informers.

The goons can kill off some. But they won't be able to kill everybody.

LiberalArkie

(19,574 posts)
42. Epstein was smart in tech. Epstein would have had a dead mans file somewhere. With the people he dealt with.
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 09:05 AM
Jan 28

He would have definitely had one. He would have had backup files stored somewhere. But nothing has appeared

RVN VET71

(3,171 posts)
36. Just like Karen Silkwood, huh?
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 08:42 AM
Jan 28

Her murder was never seriously investigated because the U.S. Government wasn't even there at the time, or something, and there was no convenient scapegoat to take the heat for the killing. I always felt Karen Silkwood may well have been an unsung hero and, certainly, a victim of knowing too much.

Meanwhile, team-rapist Maxwell is a person as filthy and vile and evil as Epstein, but she may have some cards to play to stay alive. She's already gotten herself transferred to a soft-time prison and, though a slimy pig, may have set up a protective wall of blackmail around herself to ward off the wealthy pedophile pieces of excrement from executing her.

BComplex

(9,831 posts)
43. Her lawyer could be getting paid by those very same people.
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 09:28 AM
Jan 28

At this point, it's obvious the cover up goes deeper than the depths of hell.

Volaris

(11,594 posts)
28. Yep. Shes DARING trump to keep her locked up.
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 11:32 PM
Jan 27

If she walks, she better have her OWN private island to go live on; she won't be safe anywhere civilized people live.

blueknight73

(332 posts)
22. I disagree
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 10:08 PM
Jan 27

She is using this to try to get an official " get out of jail free card " . I wouldn't be surprised if she has an "accident " in her cell.

AZJonnie

(3,373 posts)
4. And she knows about these "settlements" (not necessarily equivalent to "payouts", rawstory headline writers) how?
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 07:53 PM
Jan 27

The 29 dudes all called her up to tell her about their secret settlements, because, why?

And what were the nature of these "settlements"? Who offered them? What did they entitle the recipients TO?

If you want my opinion, she probably got this off some shady internet CT site.

This scumbag has lied her ass off ALL ALONG. I'm not inclined to start believing her now, and ESPECIALLY do not trust her motives

ETA: Let me also add that a main Maxwell "angle" all along has basically been "the agreement for the non-prosecution of people involved with Epstein (from the 2008 case) should protect me too, I'm only in trouble because I'm a women and they're all powerful men". I would bet money that this 25 number is meant to be a count of the number of "men" who supposedly WERE allowed to "skate" because of that same 2008 non-prosecution agreement.

If you think this some kind of "coming clean", or "exposure of the guilty" you, it is almost certainly not. It's much more likely to be another salvo in a legal angle she's been working for many years. Now her lawyers are just adding a count/number because it sounds better. She's also ranted about corrupt jurors, corrupt prosecutors who were in cahoots with the victims lawyers, etc etc etc.

To be clear I'm not saying some men (or even women, such as Virginia Giuffre) didn't "skate" pursuant to that NPA because I really don't know.

But neither does she.

dpibel

(3,843 posts)
9. facts/accuracy/science?
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 08:54 PM
Jan 27

"If you want my opinion, she probably got this off some shady internet CT site."

Sure, it's your opinion.

But what facts do you have to back it up?

And what is your basis for this: "If you think this some kind of "coming clean", or "exposure of the guilty" you, it is almost certainly not."

Rules for me but not for thee?

And, just to be clear, you're suggesting that Virginia Giuffre was subject to prosecution, but for the NPA? That's a new one on me.

AZJonnie

(3,373 posts)
14. She said herself that she feared prosecution and has admitted taking money for bringing her friends into the ring
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 09:21 PM
Jan 27

Her books says it's her greatest regret, etc.

So, yeah, if the cops wanted to be assholes, they could have prosecuted her as well. It's not like there's a carveout in the law that says being a paid member of a minor sex trafficking ring is totally A-OK if you're only 17 (and perhaps of note, she didn't leave Epstein's orbit until she was over 18). Legally, she self-admittedly was "part of the ring", we (rightly) choose to deem her innocent because she was groomed by Epstein.

That's not to say that the NPA *is* why she wasn't (again you'll notice I did not claim she wasn't, only that maybe she was), but it's not like it's unthinkable. There's exactly 4 people who were expressly listed in that NPA. And they were all 4 women.

You'll notice that in EVERY quote you're bringing up here, I'm allowing for the possibility that I'm wrong. And like I said, Maxwell has been working that NPA angle all along, and my guess, which I'm clear on ... is that what she's actually claiming is that "25 men" benefitted from the NPA, but not her, pursuant to her long-time claims that her prosecution and trial was corrupted.

You know, by Garland and Biden's DoJ

dpibel

(3,843 posts)
15. This is not that hard
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 09:33 PM
Jan 27

I don't think you can claim to be based entirely on truth and facts and then engage in whatever speculation you see fit.

Although I suppose I'm fine with that as long as you never upbraid anyone else for expressing opinions that are supported by "I think this makes sense."

As ever, I am fascinated by your fascination with the Epstein matter, and think, but am not sure, I know what your angle on it is.

AZJonnie

(3,373 posts)
27. This is not "whatever speculation I see fit"
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 11:09 PM
Jan 27

It is based on the fact that I've followed this case very closely (even I am not sure why except there's a great deal of intrigue involved) ever since the 2017 Herald article. I know a lot of details, and I've considered everything I've learned with a very critical eye, and shied away from the larger-scale conspiracy theories.

I stipulate my assessments could still be wrong, as I must under the circumstances, but these are not random things I'm pulling from my rear end, I assure you.

I've alluded to and explained in many different ways over the past 8 months or so what my "angle" is. I don't buy into a lot of what other people take as gospel surrounding this case, particularly the "big pedo cabal" theory, rather, I think it's much more likely that Epstein kept the fact that he was abusing minors by paying them for sex mostly hidden (except from Trump, he OBVIOUSLY knew exactly what Epstein was up to). In fact, I'm not entirely convinced anyone else directly "partook", shall we say? It's possible, but I doubt it's to nearly the scale that many people seem to accept as fact.

But another part of my angle is that I don't think Biden's DOJ just sat on a bunch of blatant evidence (esp. not that's going to "come out" in Trump's Epstein files release), and I don't believe Virginia Guiffre's claims that she was forced by Epstein into sex with Senators George Mitchell and Bill Richardson as she claimed. By this I mean I don't believe that (sex) happened between her and those two men, to be clear.

Gaugamela

(3,405 posts)
13. In the first place, her lawyer quit and she wrote and filed the petition herself.
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 09:17 PM
Jan 27

Second, Virginia Giuffre was a victim, not someone who “skated” because of the NPA.

Third, you say: “I would bet money that this 25 number is meant to be a count of the number of "men" who supposedly WERE allowed to "skate" because of that same 2008 non-prosecution agreement.” — Well yeah, that’s explicitly what she’s alleging. It’s the whole point of the article. There’s nothing to bet on.

Fourth, nobody trusts Ghislaine Maxwell. Of course you’re going to take it with a huge grain of salt.

Fifth, the reason everyone got a NPA is they were involved or at least peripherally involved in intelligence work. CIA, Mossad, MI6. And since Ghislaine Maxwell was a close friend and confidant and co-conspirator of Epstein’s up until his death, it is not out of the question that she would be familiar with the details of the NPA, as it would be central to everything they were up to and affected her directly. Epstein would know about the details because of his intelligence connections.

It is widely believed that the Washington Post got the Epstein birthday book page from Maxwell’s lawyers. It would make no sense for her to allege made-up nonsense because Trump and the DOJ know what the truth is. Maxwell knows Trump is about to die and she will use everything she has to get a pardon, but made up lies would have zero leverage.

AZJonnie

(3,373 posts)
16. The reason I mentioned Guiffre is in post 14 above, hopefully that clears it up.
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 09:35 PM
Jan 27

"Third ... Well yeah, that’s explicitly what she’s alleging. It’s the whole point of the article. There’s nothing to bet on."

Except this rawstory article says no such thing. Go read it. Its headline also says "payments" when no such thing is actually alleged.

"It is widely believed that the Washington Post got the Epstein birthday book page from Maxwell’s lawyers"

Actually, we know it was the Wall Street Journal, and that it came from the Epstein estate

"Fifth, the reason everyone got a NPA is they were involved or at least peripherally involved in intelligence work."

Well, there is also the fact that there's four people explicitly named as being excluded pursuant to that NPA, and those are Epstein's female assistants running his Estates and businesses in various purviews: Sarah Kellen, Adriana Ross, Lesley Groff, and Nadia Marcinkova.

Its safe to assume that these four women in some sense benefitted from the NPA, not that any of them were necessarily "guilty", but perhaps the NPA was to grant them immunity hoping they'd tell authorities what they knew about what Epstein was up to, and that hopefully others would similarly come forward, given this NPA? ETA: admittedly, this is a bit backwards if it were their intent, they could've put the squeeze on the women instead and it seems like Acosta et al did not approach it that way. At minimum they were glad-handing that fucker, but I'm not 100 this is not just because he's was a rich, connected asshole with plenty of money for the best lawyers.

However, we the public have never known for a fact that anyone else avoided prosecution vis-a-vis this NPA, only that Maxwell tried, and failed. 15 years too fucking late to have been a part of what the intent of the NPA actually was.

My bet is that Maxwell is blowing smoke, she has no idea if anyone else skated due to the NPA apart from the 4 women who were in it. I guess we'll see, won't we? If I'm wrong, I promise to admit it. I do it ALL THE TIME here and elsewhere

BComplex

(9,831 posts)
45. I thought they got the birthday book from the Epstein estate, not Ghislaine Maxwell.
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 09:35 AM
Jan 28

This is so convoluted, I'm pretty sure nobody will ever know the complete truth.

Gaugamela

(3,405 posts)
49. The Wall Street Journal reported on the book first, specifically mentioning Trump's
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 10:51 AM
Jan 28

contribution. Trump then brought a lawsuit for defamation. A month or so later the House Oversight Committee subpoenaed the Epstein Estate and produced the actual book. My point is that the WSJ obtained their information through a leak, which came most likely from Ghislaine Maxwell via her lawyers. My larger point is that Ghislaine Maxwell very likely knows a very large amount of damaging information on Trump. She’s playing a strong hand. She doesn’t need to make up random allegations, which if she did would actually undermine her position.

FakeNoose

(41,025 posts)
61. The "Epstein Estate" is Jeffrey's only brother Mark Epstein
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 04:01 PM
Jan 28

Mark Epstein had the birthday book and provided it to the media. The book was created by Ghislaine Maxwell for Jeffrey's birthday, so of course she knows what's in the book. Maybe she made a copy of the book for herself? I don't know.

Ghislaine was more than just a former girlfriend of Jeffrey's. She participated in his blackmail business and functioned as a personal secretary for his pedophile activities. This meant she wrangled the high-school-age girls for his enjoyment, as well as training them in what they needed to do. She was a full partner and had to know the details, even if she didn't get financial benefit from them.

I believe Ghislaine must have gotten a share of Jeffrey's profits in the blackmail business. Otherwise she would have told the truth about him ages ago. She was with him in New York and also in West Palm Beach, but I don't know if she participated in the Virgin Island Lolita Express activities. Even if she didn't go to the island, she knew who received invitations and who participated.

I believe I read that after Jeffrey's "soft" conviction in West Palm Beach in 2008, Ghislaine pulled back and had less to do with Jeffrey's illegal activities. She stayed in New York and he tried to shield her from getting pulled into the pedophile investigation. Eventually she left his employ altogether, some time after the Giuffre lawsuit was settled.

Gaugamela

(3,405 posts)
62. The Epstein Estate is managed by two Epstein associates, his lawyer and his accountant.
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 04:34 PM
Jan 28
Indyke and Kahn, an attorney and an accountant, each worked with Epstein for many years. Epstein selected the pair as co-executors of his estate in a will he drafted in jail two days before his death.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/epstein-estate-failed-turn-documents-victims-attorneys/story?id=70757007

Maxwell was Epstein’s accomplice in the whole operation, participated in the sexual abuse, and was very much present on the island. She was a helicopter pilot and flew Epstein and victims to and from the island. She was also a master diver and piloted Epstein’s sub. Obviously she profited from the sex trafficking operation. If she distanced herself from Epstein it was likely for show only. Among the documents released by the House committee were emails between her and Epstein dating from Trump’s first term.

What exactly was supplied to the WSJ we don’t know, but the WSJ would not have run the story without substantial and irrefutable proof. Maybe it was a photo of the book and the page in question.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,299 posts)
26. And as soon as she gets out she will skip the country...
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 10:54 PM
Jan 27

... her and her daddy's Mossad connections, amongst others.

AZJonnie

(3,373 posts)
29. Maybe! I have to admit I've long been intrigued by the possibility of Epstein and Maxwell being intel agents
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 11:51 PM
Jan 27

Running a honeypot/entrapment operation rather the situation having been a "powerful pedo cabal". There are some interesting theories and tidbits of evidence that hint at that possibility, lets just say.

Here where I've come down on this idea after a good bit of consideration. I think it's possible that it "started that way" in some sense, but their "mission" if you will was not one that was meant to involve minors. Powerful people stepping out on their wives with young (but legal) models, and feeding some intelligent outfit the dirt from that? I think that's not impossible.

But I think Epstein and Maxwell were sick fucks, and their handlers might not have known how to deal with it when they started "going too far", paying minors for sex, and possibly even dangling them in front of "targets". In 2008 they got "covered for" because the operation as a whole, even without minors, was shady-ass shit but JE/GM knew they'd be covered for for that very reason. I also think that is not an impossible scenario.

Very conspiratorial and very much hypothetical, but I don't reject it completely due to some things we know were said in the past by various players, and the fact that Epstein had a reportedly VERY official Saudi Arabian passport, like the kind that only governments can provide.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,299 posts)
55. That is exactly the niche that Robert Maxwell developed...
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 01:08 PM
Jan 28

... he had contacts with every intelligence agency in the western world.

Treat yourself. Google "maxwell mossad" and see what the AI (cough, choke) comes up with:

"AI Overview
Robert Maxwell, the controversial media mogul, had alleged deep connections with Israel's intelligence agency, Mossad, potentially acting as a facilitator for their operations, including aiding in arms deals and distributing bugged software (PROMIS) for global spying, with suspicions he was a complex, potentially triple-agent, linking him to various intelligence services, though his true loyalties remained ambiguous.
Key Connections & Allegations:
1948 War: Maxwell's influence with Czech communist leaders helped arm Israel during the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, a vital assistance for the nascent state.
PROMIS Software: He allegedly distributed a compromised version of the PROMIS software, allowing Israeli intelligence to spy on governments and financial institutions, even selling it to US nuclear labs like Sandia and Los Alamos.
Intelligence Web: Maxwell had documented links to British MI6, Soviet KGB, and Mossad, leading the British Foreign Office to suspect him as a foreign agent, possibly a double or triple agent.
Agent or Asset?: While he clearly served Israeli interests, some sources suggest he might have been a double agent, playing multiple sides, complicating his role.
In essence, Robert Maxwell was deeply entangled with intelligence operations, particularly for Israel's Mossad, using his vast network and influence for their strategic advantage, though his own allegiances were murky."

rampartd

(4,401 posts)
32. these people were in contact with each other
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 08:11 AM
Jan 28

and had ears in the prosecutors/ judges offices.

maxwell knows who epstein's extortees are.

poozwah

(406 posts)
38. surprised
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 08:46 AM
Jan 28

i am surprised she has lived as long as she has while being in custody under the current justice department.

AZJonnie

(3,373 posts)
53. Theoretically, maybe?
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 12:36 PM
Jan 28

I suppose it's *possible* but the reason I lean against it is that attempting to leverage the privilege implied by the open-ended verbiage of the 2008 non-prosecution agreement (in terms of who it applied to) was Maxwell's gambit to avoid prosecution from the START. I.E. as soon as she was indicted, "I'm included by the NPA" was her and her lawyer's immediate angle, and they argued it at the time. In the end she lost, and the prosecution went forward, obviously. At no point in the filings did her team make any claim of knowing that X number of other individuals (e.g. 25 men) had availed themselves of the privileges of the NPA (at least, not that is known, I will stipulate to).

If she DID have knowledge thereof, disclosing that information at that time was unquestionably THE TIME to do it. This would been a make or break point. If she could show that other adult abusers of the teen girls in her and Epstein's ring were protected under the BPA's terms, but not her? That would be obvious top level Exhibit A, Line 1 kinda shit. But she did not assert such, in any way, from all I've been able to dig up.

That leaves 2 possibilities, I suppose, which are a) she knew of the 25, but for some reason felt afraid to reveal it, or b) she has since come to know, or believe she knows, through some source, while in the federal pen.

So, thinking about the first possibility, my immediate thought is these people are already immune, by definition, that's the whole point. And the very authorities she's talking to are part of the entity (the DoJ) who would have extended that immunity, she's not telling them something they don't already know. She's not "exposing" anybody to new legal jeopardy by asserting that "I know you gave immunity to 25 men already". And she could've done so in that very way, not naming names, just saying "I know that happened" and they'd have had no real way of knowing she didn't actually know that. My overall, best-guess assessment would be if she could've made the argument that if 25 men were extended immunity prior to her case, that's what she would have done at the time, especially if she actually knew who they were.

The 2nd possibility seems unlikely on its face, but I think it's logical to presume that if she somehow came to know it while IN prison, then this information was almost surely fed to her by the current, non-Biden DoJ. Perhaps they discovered these "immunizations" in records they uncovered while trying to do all the redactions? IF that's the case, then it implies Trump/Bondi are actively trying to help her. I mean, how else could she come to know with ANY certainty, other than if it came from a DoJ back channel?

Which means, firstly, she's not going to be "Epsteined" as so many people on this thread are bandying about. Secondly, it doesn't mean it's actually true, because DoJ leadership are pathological liars. They'd lie to Maxwell just like they'd lie to anyone else. They could just feed her a list of 100% Democrats who Trump doesn't like, IOW. Thirdly, I would guess that the only way this gambit could work for her before the appeals board (or whoever reviews the current, new petition) is if she has a very good answer for the question "why are you just coming to us now, years hence, to make this argument about the NPA, when you did not for the past 4 or 5 years? And who exactly are you saying was previously immunized?". And what is she going to say then? And how could she possibly prove it?

In this theoretical where she's come to know of the 25 since her incarceration, the implication is almost surely that the Trump DoJ no longer cares to protect the 25 men. But they've, to date, shown no signs that they're throwing the flood gates open in this way. So if she's actually making this claim after having known all along, but not talking until now? That would imply she's defying Trump by making this claim. The guy who got her transferred to the cushy prison, her long-time friend. The guy who could, with the stroke of a pen, have her pardoned? I deem that unlikely, but possible, I suppose.

Anyways, to me it very much feels like the most likely thing that's going on is that this is a proverbial moonshot. She knew if she said this in her filing, it would be news, perhaps big news. Everyone in Trump's orbit is a pathological narcissist and liar. I think the most-likely scenario is that she's just trying to shake SOMETHING lose, and to have people talking about her. I think if she'd know about the 25 men all along, she'd have tried to make this point in her initial filings, she'd have leveraged that knowledge when there was actually a small chance of it working.

So I guess, let's see what happens next. I've made my bet about what I think is probably going on. I think the least likely scenario is that she's known all along, and has now suddenly decided to cross Trump (like everyone is hoping, it seems) and spilling the beans, but if I'm wrong, I will make a mea culpa post admitting I was wrong. I promise!

FakeNoose

(41,025 posts)
69. Don't ever discount Ghislaine
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 06:38 PM
Jan 28

... she knows how to play the game. Her dad was Robert Maxwell, a name that even Chump regards with respect.

The assumption is that Ghislaine received knowledge and spy training from her father. Who knows? Maybe she was the one who showed Jeffrey how to blackmail these extremely wealthy fuckers like Les Wexner etc. She wasn't raised Jewish but her father was a spy for Moshad. All I'm saying is that she was no "society dame," she was right there in the dirt along with Jeffrey. And her father might have been giving her pointers all along.

She probably has the goods on Chump. The question is, how does she play this game from prison, without getting "Epsteined"?

rubbersole

(11,135 posts)
12. Still, talk is cheap. Could be true or not.
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 09:05 PM
Jan 27

One thing seems glaringly obvious. Important people are willing to go to WW3 rather than have the truth get out. I'm surprised someone hasn't leaked the raunchy stuff yet.

ananda

(34,663 posts)
17. My big question is how newsworthy this is across the nation.
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 09:43 PM
Jan 27

Is it a one-day wonder that reaches a few...

or does it have legs.

Deuxcents

(26,277 posts)
19. If true, she's playing a very dangerous game. If true, why hasn't she done this before now?
Tue Jan 27, 2026, 09:59 PM
Jan 27

If true, she been withholding information and/or she’s lying.

Attilatheblond

(8,585 posts)
40. Likely she DOES read or watch the news, sees her pardon disappearing as Trump mob crashes & burns
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 08:53 AM
Jan 28

Wants pardon NOW. The blackmail will get wilder. Many very rich pedophiles will be wiring money to secret accounts and sending messages to the Pardoner in Chief.

Escape

(420 posts)
68. I hadn't thought of that angle....
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 06:36 PM
Jan 28

Trump is protecting her now because she knows too much. When he's gone (dead, nuts, removed from office) she loses any chance of a pardon.

She is probably panicking watching his dismal performance, deteriorating mental and physical health and devastating poll numbers.

This could get interesting..

OldBaldy1701E

(10,818 posts)
34. "Who are these men, and why are they still being protected?"
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 08:18 AM
Jan 28

It is funny when the press asks questions that they really don't want to actually have answered.

They re among the most wealthy and powerful men in the world. That is why they don't want to actually name anyone who might use that power to... change the parameters?

There will be governments that will change as a result of this information. Very powerful men are going to be in big trouble (assuming they are even charged with anything... they are the power, after all) and will fight to stay out of it.

That information will never be released unless someone sneaks in there, manages to find the trove of data that makes up these 'files', and then does their civic duty.

I, for one, hope they are released. I love watching cockroaches running amok because the light came on. Especially the big ones.

The only thing I love even more is when they get squashed. It can make a mess sometimes, but cleaning it up is soooo satisfying.

onenote

(46,090 posts)
37. Hyped story -- not new information. She doesn't know who these alleged settlements were with.
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 08:43 AM
Jan 28

First, this allegation about secret settlements is not something "just" made. It was contained in Maxwell's habeas corpus petition that was filed with the court over a month ago.
Second, she cites as support for the allegation about 25 secret settlements a podcast that occurred months before that.
Third, she doesn't claim to know who these "25 men" are -- quite the opposite since, as noted above, she claims she just learned that there were settlements.

Folks might do well to read her filing, if they can make it through it since it's almost unreadable, before leaping in with assumptions.

Her filing can be found here.
https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/ghislaine-maxwell-pro-se-motion-to-vacate-combined_compressed.pdf

bluestarone

(21,814 posts)
52. Just thinking here, so i have to ask you,What is the penalty if the person,(persons) that signed these supposed
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 11:17 AM
Jan 28

Non disclosure agreements? Is the penalty only lose all of future (and maybe all past payments?) If so maybe with all the money being spent on all this bullshit, just ( gather trusted billionaires) to offer DOUBLE the amounts and future hiding identity? Hell, if i knew 100% this would get all this epstein bullshit finally released, i'd donate as well.

reACTIONary

(7,088 posts)
64. I think these are (alleged) non prosecution agreements...
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 05:39 PM
Jan 28

... not non disclosure agreements. But after reading the commentary here, I've got the impression this is just more raw story Epstein click bait, so I'm not going to look into it further.

MadameButterfly

(3,929 posts)
59. But we need them alive
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 03:20 PM
Jan 28

There have to be a lot of people who could name names if it wasn't so dangerous

aggiesal

(10,685 posts)
57. The only link I could find on this story is the TheDailyBeast.com link buried in the RawStory.com link ...
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 02:50 PM
Jan 28

And TheDailyBeast.com has a paywall.

Is there any other link that could collaborate this story?

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