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sheshe2

(96,402 posts)
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 02:27 PM 17 hrs ago

I was a combat soldier in Iraq. Here's the 1 question everyone should be asking about ICE right now

As a combat soldier, I recognize a mission when I see one — not because it’s announced, but because it’s being carried out. In the span of weeks, ICE and Border Patrol operations in Minneapolis have resulted in the deaths of two Minnesotans. In over a year of combat in Iraq, my battalion of 500 soldiers did not kill a single person.

That difference matters.

My unit spent 397 days on the battlefield. We were shot at. We feared for our lives. Snipers fired from crowds. Improvised explosive devices lined the roads we were ordered to clear. And still, we did not return fire unless strict conditions were met: The shooter had to be clearly identified, civilians could not be in the line of fire, and lethal force had to be the last resort.

Why? Because that was not our mission.

Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O’Hara stated publicly that, in 2025, the Minneapolis Police Department recovered roughly 900 guns from the street and arrested hundreds of violent offenders — and did not kill a single person.

Let that sit with you.

If the Minneapolis Police Department didn’t kill anyone in a year of active policing, and my combat unit didn’t kill anyone in over a year of war, Minnesotans are right to ask why ICE and the Border Patrol have killed two people here in two weeks.



MORE: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/i-was-a-combat-soldier-in-iraq-here-s-the-1-question-everyone-should-be-asking-about-ice-right-now/ar-AA1VbcoV


THIS THIS THIS!!!
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I was a combat soldier in Iraq. Here's the 1 question everyone should be asking about ICE right now (Original Post) sheshe2 17 hrs ago OP
K&R Blue Owl 17 hrs ago #1
K & R democrank 17 hrs ago #2
K&R! Torchlight 17 hrs ago #3
But she didn't face whistles and cellphones n/t leftstreet 17 hrs ago #4
They want to eliminate the competition. By any means. Brainwashed thugs. littlemissmartypants 17 hrs ago #5
It is not a question to ask. It is an obvious conclusion to state: their mission is murder. RockRaven 17 hrs ago #6
They want deaths so they can do martial law. If you don't live there they will come for your area soon. Srkdqltr 17 hrs ago #7
They want to get people mad enought to react MadameButterfly 14 hrs ago #31
It makes their "mission" UpInArms 17 hrs ago #8
Their mission is to prompt a violent response from Minneapolis citizens. flashman13 17 hrs ago #11
Trump's mission is to kill, terrorize, control the American people. Irish_Dem 17 hrs ago #9
Wow powerful. K&R. bronxiteforever 17 hrs ago #10
Excellent! Pass it around. brer cat 17 hrs ago #12
Thanks for the insight and perspective. Put the actions of ICE in proper proportion. Martin68 16 hrs ago #13
The other question is, "why are ICE agents outfitted like they're on combat missions in IRAQ?" patphil 16 hrs ago #14
A good point. Redleg 16 hrs ago #15
Why do their vests say Police Hope22 16 hrs ago #16
They should not be able to label themselves police. MadameButterfly 14 hrs ago #32
It is an insult to every man and woman that has spent years training to become police officers. sheshe2 13 hrs ago #38
They are pretending they have some ethics, some honor, some concern for people. patphil 10 hrs ago #41
Exactly, patphil. sheshe2 15 hrs ago #23
Thank you for posting. The more people who speak out for what is right the better twodogsbarking 16 hrs ago #17
Thank you so much for that, sheshe2. Buddyzbuddy 16 hrs ago #18
K&R MustLoveBeagles 16 hrs ago #19
What's that smell ? Could it be .... eppur_se_muova 16 hrs ago #20
Great post, sheshe2! Wicked Blue 15 hrs ago #21
Well maybe it's Rebl2 15 hrs ago #22
That wasn't the case with the goon who shot Renee Good. Wednesdays 15 hrs ago #25
How long does it take ? Haggis 4 Breakfast 15 hrs ago #24
And to punish Rep. Ilhan Omar, the Somali-American Trump hates more than any other woman on earth. sop 14 hrs ago #29
These ICE "officers" are recruited from Proud boys, neo-Nazi groups hadEnuf 14 hrs ago #26
Reading further at the OP link: FakeNoose 14 hrs ago #27
Author Diana Oestreich Dear_Prudence 14 hrs ago #28
After seeing this, I HAVE to read her book! FakeNoose 14 hrs ago #33
I'm sure the military will be on the streets eventually OC375 14 hrs ago #30
THIS THIS THIS! Wild blueberry 13 hrs ago #34
K&R UTUSN 13 hrs ago #35
Only a matter of time before the Feds break a door down without a warrant and duckworth969 13 hrs ago #36
In other words, you had good leadership, training, and discipline and were professionals surfered 13 hrs ago #37
Let"s see all!!!! Lemon Lyman 12 hrs ago #39
ICE needs to go out on the streets Aussie105 10 hrs ago #40
K&R LetMyPeopleVote 2 hrs ago #42

littlemissmartypants

(32,298 posts)
5. They want to eliminate the competition. By any means. Brainwashed thugs.
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 02:34 PM
17 hrs ago

Thanks for the discussion, she². Love you. ❤️

RockRaven

(18,885 posts)
6. It is not a question to ask. It is an obvious conclusion to state: their mission is murder.
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 02:36 PM
17 hrs ago

They are there to kill, and they have. Now what is going to be done about it?

Srkdqltr

(9,471 posts)
7. They want deaths so they can do martial law. If you don't live there they will come for your area soon.
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 02:37 PM
17 hrs ago

MadameButterfly

(3,836 posts)
31. They want to get people mad enought to react
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 06:07 PM
14 hrs ago

so they can do martial law.
Minnesotans have been remarkably restrained. It takes only one person to mess it up. They have been 100% non-violent.

flashman13

(2,165 posts)
11. Their mission is to prompt a violent response from Minneapolis citizens.
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 03:11 PM
17 hrs ago

It is interesting how tens of thousands of untrained citizen protesters have displayed far more discipline than the ICE thugs.

Irish_Dem

(80,286 posts)
9. Trump's mission is to kill, terrorize, control the American people.
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 02:43 PM
17 hrs ago

This is his mission.

patphil

(8,789 posts)
14. The other question is, "why are ICE agents outfitted like they're on combat missions in IRAQ?"
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 03:35 PM
16 hrs ago

Add to that the masks, lack of ID, and unmarked vehicles.
No other police force in the United States looks like this.
It's evident their mission is not to arrest illegal immigrants. It's meant to instill terror in everyone that encounters them.

Redleg

(6,854 posts)
15. A good point.
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 03:50 PM
16 hrs ago

I have complained about the "militarization" of law enforcement for some time now. I have a special dislike for the so-called "warrior ethos" that many law-enforcement people have adopted. I wish they would develop the discipline that so many of our actual troops have.

MadameButterfly

(3,836 posts)
32. They should not be able to label themselves police.
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 06:08 PM
14 hrs ago

This could be called impersonating an officer.

sheshe2

(96,402 posts)
38. It is an insult to every man and woman that has spent years training to become police officers.
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 07:09 PM
13 hrs ago

patphil

(8,789 posts)
41. They are pretending they have some ethics, some honor, some concern for people.
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 09:59 PM
10 hrs ago

But all they are is hunters. It really bothers me to see them pretending to be on the side of the people.

Buddyzbuddy

(2,254 posts)
18. Thank you so much for that, sheshe2.
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 04:07 PM
16 hrs ago

It helps to remind us that we were once the good guys with a few bad apples and now....?

eppur_se_muova

(41,182 posts)
20. What's that smell ? Could it be ....
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 04:22 PM
16 hrs ago


An agent provocateur (French for 'inciting agent') is a person who actively entices another person to commit a crime that would not otherwise have been committed and then reports the person to the authorities. They may target individuals or groups.[1]

In jurisdictions in which conspiracy is a serious crime in itself, it can be sufficient for the agent provocateur to entrap the target into discussing and planning an illegal act. It is not necessary for the illegal act to be carried out or even prepared.

Prevention of infiltration by agents provocateurs is part of the duty of demonstration marshals, also called stewards, deployed by organizers of large or controversial assemblies.[2][3][4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur

Rebl2

(17,488 posts)
22. Well maybe it's
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 04:47 PM
15 hrs ago

because they were not properly vetted and rigorously trained and passed that training. I am guessing none of that has happened with the majority of ice goons.

Wednesdays

(21,793 posts)
25. That wasn't the case with the goon who shot Renee Good.
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 05:23 PM
15 hrs ago

He had years of experience.

It's still to be seen what the background was of those who shot Alex Pretti.

Haggis 4 Breakfast

(1,505 posts)
24. How long does it take ?
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 05:04 PM
15 hrs ago

ICE/BP has been in Minneapolis long enough to detain every single undocumented person there ten times over. So why are they still there ? This was NEVER about immigration, but to punish MN - especially Tim Walz for having the gall to run against the trmp/vance ticket and damn near beat him in the process. They only won by 1.6% of the total vote. Not to mention how bad Tim made JD appear on the debate stage.

So, how long does it take ?

sop

(17,785 posts)
29. And to punish Rep. Ilhan Omar, the Somali-American Trump hates more than any other woman on earth.
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 05:43 PM
14 hrs ago

The city of Minneapolis is in Omar's 5th Congressional district, the most Democratic district in the state, and the most Democratic district in the Upper Midwest, with the largest population of Somali Americans in the country.

hadEnuf

(3,552 posts)
26. These ICE "officers" are recruited from Proud boys, neo-Nazi groups
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 05:32 PM
14 hrs ago

Ku Klux Klan, J6ers, and every other lunatic militia type organization around.

All of the scum of society that we have been working to get off the streets for years and years are now fully supported with unlimited resources as federal agents who are doing whatever the hell they want to people that they and Trump do not personally like.


The criminals are now the federal cops.

FakeNoose

(40,508 posts)
27. Reading further at the OP link:
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 05:33 PM
14 hrs ago

Kudos to sheshe2 for sharing this!

The answer is uncomfortable but unavoidable. Either this is their mission — or they are operating outside accountability.

Minnesota is demanding a full legal investigation into the killings of Renee Good and Alex Pretti, including allegations that lifesaving medical care was delayed or denied. Refusing transparency or investigation is not partisan disagreement. It is a constitutional failure.

Screenshot (author in Iraq)


When armed agents operate beyond the reach of law, they are no longer public servants. They are something else entirely.

Mercenaries are defined not only by who pays them but by what restrains them. Mercenaries answer to orders, not to law, ethics or public accountability. That is precisely why soldiers and law enforcement officers hold codes of conduct so fiercely. Without those codes, uniforms become disguises instead of safeguards.

As a veteran, I refuse to accept mercenary behavior hiding behind federal badges on Minnesota soil. This is my home. Minnesota stands for liberty, justice and due process — not secrecy, immunity or violence without consequence.

Staff changes are not legal accountability. Silence is not justice. Justice delayed is justice denied. Minnesotans are demanding a full, independent investigation under state law into the agents involved in these deaths. No one — federal or otherwise — is above the law of this land.

If ICE and the Border Patrol cannot operate within the Constitution, with restraint, transparency and accountability, then they are not fit to carry out their mission in Minnesota — or anywhere else. Because when force is untethered from law, our freedom is already in danger.

Diana Oestreich is a combat veteran, founder of The Waging Peace Project, and author of “Waging Peace: One Soldier’s Story of Putting Love First.” As an author, activist and soldier-turned-peacemaker, she’s a nationally recognized speaker at the intersection of justice, nonviolence, faith and how everyday peacemakers are challenging and changing our world.


Article originally published in HuffPo.


Dear_Prudence

(1,081 posts)
28. Author Diana Oestreich
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 05:40 PM
14 hrs ago

Is an author, activist, and soldier-turned-peacemaker. Thank you for posting this, sheshe2.

duckworth969

(1,274 posts)
36. Only a matter of time before the Feds break a door down without a warrant and
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 07:04 PM
13 hrs ago

meet a well-armed 2A Stand Your Ground/Castle Doctrine adherent on the other side.

IMO, that’s what the Chump admin wants, a few dead Fed Agents.

surfered

(12,145 posts)
37. In other words, you had good leadership, training, and discipline and were professionals
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 07:06 PM
13 hrs ago

ICE, not so much.

Aussie105

(7,698 posts)
40. ICE needs to go out on the streets
Wed Jan 28, 2026, 09:33 PM
10 hrs ago

without their guns, and be drug tested daily.

But perhaps, they shouldn't go out on the streets at all.

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