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Disaffected

(6,257 posts)
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 04:23 PM Jan 29

If Alberta Falls, Canada Falls

"If Alberta Falls, Canada Falls

Charlie Angus / The Resistance
Jan 29, 2026

"Finally. Someone in the public has spoken the word ‘treason’.

How else to describe the manipulations of the Quislings who have been meeting with Trump officials to break Alberta from Canada?

For the last year, I have been calling out the “Donbas Playbook” being used by the MAGA machine. I have raised questions about the massive slush fund of American money being put on the table to drive the break up our nation. And I have been calling out the manipulations of MAGA Premier Danielle Smith.

The stakes are getting higher."

https://charlieangus.substack.com/p/if-alberta-falls-canada-falls

Any vibes from the US sources on this? Angry but not surprised.....

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If Alberta Falls, Canada Falls (Original Post) Disaffected Jan 29 OP
No................ Lovie777 Jan 29 #1
This does indeed look like a page out of the Putin playbook as seen in Donbas and Brexit EarlG Jan 29 #2
Agreed. Disaffected Jan 29 #11
I understand Belarus is lovely this time of year. COL Mustard Jan 29 #25
Yes. And the premier Danielle Smith has been bankrupting the public health care, applegrove Jan 29 #14
In any case the referendum is nonbinding Fiendish Thingy Jan 29 #17
Damn, if only Danielle was 40 years younger... OGBuzz Jan 29 #21
Well, it's amazing what they can do with a bit of surgery these days. WestMichRad Jan 29 #28
Thank you.......... Lovie777 Jan 29 #3
We are NOT taking Nickelback leftstreet Jan 29 #4
... Disaffected Jan 29 #12
.... Spazito Jan 29 #19
Oh yes you are! Ray Bruns Jan 29 #23
Yeah, we're setting such a good example of governance down here. CanonRay Jan 29 #5
When I lived in Victoria, BC Metaphorical Jan 29 #6
They have always been here, the separatists, I think they just have gotten louder because Bev54 Jan 29 #16
K&R UTUSN Jan 29 #7
Putin wants all democratic countries to shatter and break apart. Irish_Dem Jan 29 #8
It's how I feel about the bumpkins arguing for TX secession. Torchlight Jan 29 #9
Carney isn't playing... Bread and Circuses Jan 29 #10
King Charles doesnt want Canada under trump (from 2025... ) IcyPeas Jan 29 #13
Not gonna happen Fiendish Thingy Jan 29 #15
I believe it would also require a change to Disaffected Jan 29 #29
I'll offer a trade: the U.S. takes Alberta, and Canada takes Michigan. Please. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 29 #18
US can have Alberta if Canada takes the US 😂 debsy Jan 29 #22
I would offer Minnesota, but LakeVermilion Jan 29 #26
I sure hope so!!! calimary Jan 29 #27
And New York! n/t returnee Jan 30 #31
Alberta is not going to fall... Spazito Jan 29 #20
Frankly, Alberta needs to be governed and governed hard. Seeking Serenity Jan 29 #24
First Nations chiefs laugh at the idea they'd be better off in an independent Alberta littlemissmartypants Jan 29 #30

EarlG

(23,485 posts)
2. This does indeed look like a page out of the Putin playbook as seen in Donbas and Brexit
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 04:28 PM
Jan 29

For what it's worth, a poll taken earlier this month shows 19% of Albertans support separating from Canada, 75% oppose it. I wouldn't be surprised if that oppose number doesn't go a little higher once Albertans see separatist leaders canoodling with the fascist Trump regime.

Disaffected

(6,257 posts)
11. Agreed.
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 04:58 PM
Jan 29

And yes, support for separation, even in "Red-neck Alberta" is thankfully pretty minimal.

The gathering of signatures for a separation referendum however is now underway and I hope they show up at my door so I can spit in their faces or at least ask them WTF is wrong with you.

Approx. 177,000 signatures would be required (10% of votes cast in the last provincial election). In a way, I hope they reach that threshold so Albertans can tell them to PO and they will slink away or maybe move to more right-wing environs in another country.

applegrove

(131,036 posts)
14. Yes. And the premier Danielle Smith has been bankrupting the public health care,
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 05:23 PM
Jan 29

Last edited Thu Jan 29, 2026, 08:10 PM - Edit history (1)

or tried hard to, which will remind Albertans that she does not have their welfare at heart, but does have the welfare of private healthcare coprporations close to her heart. Keeping our public healthcare is a top issue for all Canadians.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,454 posts)
17. In any case the referendum is nonbinding
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 05:40 PM
Jan 29

And any separation would have to be approved by the federal government and the First Nations people who live in Alberta.

It’s a boneheaded idea that will hopefully spell the end of Danielle Smith’s career.

OGBuzz

(88 posts)
21. Damn, if only Danielle was 40 years younger...
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 06:00 PM
Jan 29

she'd be able to get work at the Mar a Lago sauna and steam room handing out towels to the boys.

WestMichRad

(3,063 posts)
28. Well, it's amazing what they can do with a bit of surgery these days.
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 07:19 PM
Jan 29

She could follow in Krusty Noem’s… er, shoes!

Metaphorical

(2,605 posts)
6. When I lived in Victoria, BC
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 04:35 PM
Jan 29

there were a few Separatists that wanted to make Western Canada a distinct country. They were definitely the Canadian equivalents of Magats, even twenty years ago. However, they were never terribly popular.

I suspect nowadays they are even less so.





Bev54

(13,320 posts)
16. They have always been here, the separatists, I think they just have gotten louder because
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 05:38 PM
Jan 29

they are getting funding and encouragement from the Trump admin. Alberta is not going to separate and I hope like hell we are smart enough to get rid of DS in the next election.

The biggest fight will be the disinformation and while most Canadians wouldn't fall for it, we have some real dingers here in Alberta but they are still a minority.

Torchlight

(6,514 posts)
9. It's how I feel about the bumpkins arguing for TX secession.
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 04:38 PM
Jan 29

And probably just as effective... in that it's an empty pipe dream meant to distract from actual solutions. A 2020 poll had fully one-third of Texans supporting secession, but my guess is it's little more than a soft wish outside of a very, very few.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,454 posts)
15. Not gonna happen
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 05:30 PM
Jan 29

Only about 30% of Albertans support separation, and the referendum is nonbinding.

Even if it passed, separation cannot occur without the approval of both the federal government and the people of the First Nations on land within Alberta (and they are a hard NO).

But Angus is correct- those meeting with Americans to strategize and fundraise are traitors.

Spazito

(55,312 posts)
20. Alberta is not going to fall...
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 05:53 PM
Jan 29

it will continue to be the Canadian outlier, the 'Texas North" for the foreseeable future.

littlemissmartypants

(32,802 posts)
30. First Nations chiefs laugh at the idea they'd be better off in an independent Alberta
Thu Jan 29, 2026, 07:27 PM
Jan 29


First Nations chiefs laugh at the idea they'd be better off in an independent Alberta
Indigenous leaders call out Jeffrey Rath, one of the leaders of the separatism movement

Author of the article:By Steven Sandor
Published Jan 29, 2026
Last updated 1 hour ago
https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/first-nations-chiefs-laugh-independent-alberta/wcm/6dca435c-9eac-44a8-8f83-a4bdd3e76743

...
They weren’t laughing “with” someone, they were laughing “at” someone. That person wasn’t in the west Edmonton offices of the Treaty 8 First Nations of Alberta. But Jeffrey Rath, the lawyer who’s become one of the loudest mouthpieces of the Alberta separatist movement, was the target of derision for some of Alberta’s First Nations leaders.

On Thursday, the leaders from three treaty lands all rejected Rath’s promise. They gathered to show that they’re united against the current petition that, if successful, would trigger a referendum on Alberta independence. Sturgeon Lake Cree Nation, the Blackfoot Confederacy and the Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation have launched suits against the petition and the province’s Bill 14, which allows for citizen initiatives like the independence push.

Chief Billy-Joe Tuccaro of Mikisew Cree Nation, which is also planning to launch a lawsuit against the province, said that many Indigenous people remember Rath from when he represented a number of First Nations in their lawsuits against the federal government. Just a few years ago, Rath was well known for taking Indigenous treaty claims as far as the Supreme Court of Canada.
...
Oil and gas resources belong to the First Nations people “and we signed a treaty to share it with you. We didn’t sign a treaty for separation,” added Allan Adam, chief of the Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation.

More at link.


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